Mini 672 - Tranquility (Game Over)

[Lord Gurgi]

Votecount.. Oh wait, there isn't anything to count!

Well at least I'm on the top.

[Lord Gurgi]

Is this gonna be one of those awesomesauce semantic arguments? Of course I can only think you're scum. However, my internal scales of scum vs town on you have fell over due to the weight on the scum side. Unless something changes, I have every reason to believe you are scum.

Ok, I just didn't like the use of definites.

Always. I hope you're not asking for meta. I dont do meta.

Of course not. It's ongoing.

As for the Rishi issue - lets just drop it for now. We're not going to budge and time will tell.

Don't just give him a free ride. I'm ok with not discussing him the way we have been, just don't forget him to the point where he can sit back and watch.

Pressure votes are useful in limited circumstance. I've made it clear I dont like Camn's play in regards to the voting. You know the answers to these questions.

Ok.

OMG TUNNELLL VISION (Notice the sarcasm at the fact Rishi calls me out on this when we've got you right here -

if I didn't think you were scum I wouldn't have a problem with focusing on your main case

).

No, not tunnel vision. I have other suspicions, and I have said who they are. I'm going to push my number one choice though.

Oh, and the bolded part... So it's ok for town to do this, but because you think I am scum, you are going to use it against me? And in the same post that you accuse ME of tunnel vision?

THIS is what I would call 'soft-claming.'

Please don't point out things like this in the future.

I'm going to request that those players not voting please start doing so, and those who are voting start considering who else they're willing to have lynched.

1. Camn
2. Porkens
3. Nameless

HE SIMULPOSTED ME SO I REPOSTED IT HERE BECAUSE I REALLY WANT THE TOP

[melikefood]

What kind of surprise do you mean?
If he had any power roles.

Did you then and do you now think Porkens is scum?
Then I was being cautious, now not really.

Do you think Porkens has a scum-aligned power role, or did you want to stop a NK?
At that point, yes.

[camn]

Alright.. those answers almost make sense in Enlish.

why did you tell him you were going to block him?

[camn]

PS... I gotta go out.. so

### Vote : Charter

For Pressure.









Heh. I thought about leaving it at that

But also because his attacks on Porkens are crap-case at best. . . but even though that case sucks, it is still 10 times as complete as his "case" (or lack thereof) on Nameless, where his vote lies.
He has hardly mentioned Nameless today, yet lets the vote ride.

Also, truly, maybe some pressure will get him back in the Game.

And Charter.. before you say it, its not OMGUS. I know I am on your list.. but you are the LEAST of my problems. If I was prone to OMGUS votes, I would be voting KMD right now

[melikefood]

Alright.. those answers almost make sense in Enlish.

why did you tell him you were going to block him?

Double backwards trick.
I guess that doesn't work.

[Porkens]

Please don't point out things like this in the future.

why?

[Porkens]

Double backwards trick.

A trick? To get what result?

(sorry for DP)

[Nameless]

Double backwards trick.

A trick? To get what result?

AKA confusion via WIFOM, I presume.

[Kmd4390]

### Vote : Charter

For Pressure.

Here we go again...

But also because his attacks on Porkens are crap-case at best. . . but even though that case sucks, it is still 10 times as complete as his "case" (or lack thereof) on Nameless, where his vote lies.
He has hardly mentioned Nameless today, yet lets the vote ride.

Why is the case on Porkens crap?

If I was prone to OMGUS votes, I would be voting KMD right now

Very true.

why?

If you think someone is soft claiming a power role, you don't have to tell the scum that. Chances are you're wrong anyway.

[camn]

his "attacks" on Porkens revolve mostly around him role-fishing MLF.. Which I think is obvious never happened.

God typing on a phone is painful.

[Porkens]

why?

If you think someone is soft claiming a power role, you don't have to tell the scum that. Chances are you're wrong anyway.

I don't agree. I don't think the minority is going to 'miss' that. It stood out like a blinking red light for me. You want me to bank on the idea that all the majority sees it but the minority doesn't?

So what am I probably wrong about? That he's softclaiming? It isn't even subtle;

As for flipping on my opinion of melikefood, I told you that I did a meta-read on him. There may be other reasons why I might have had a change of position on melikefood. Think about it and let me know if you still want this question answered.

Going from meta to "oh I HAVE my reasons, but we shouldn't talk about them (except for here where I am talking about them)" is a matter that needs adressing as soon as possible. I'm not asking for a hard claim, but, as Spy said, yes you need to elaborate NOW THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.

Finally, KMD; Why didn't you call out SpyreX when he said that I was soft-claiming?

[Kmd4390]

I don't agree. I don't think the minority is going to 'miss' that. It stood out like a blinking red light for me. You want me to bank on the idea that all the majority sees it but the minority doesn't?

We were all over Stormer for asking about a cop. He was very obvious about it, but other than that, it's the same thing. I don't see why you would mention any power role discussion at all. Just because you saw it doesn't mean the rest of us did too. Maybe the scum saw it, maybe they missed it. Either way, we can be sure that they saw you bring it up.

Finally, KMD; Why didn't you call out SpyreX when he said that I was soft-claiming?

My honest answer would affect the town in a negative way.

[Porkens]

We were all over Stormer for asking about a cop. He was very obvious about it, but other than that, it's the same thing. I don't see why you would mention any power role discussion at all. Just because you saw it doesn't mean the rest of us did too. Maybe the scum saw it, maybe they missed it. Either way, we can be sure that they saw you bring it up.

It's not the same thing. In Stormer's case, no one implied anything to warrent a question, he just blurted it out.

My honest answer would affect the town in a negative way.

In this situation, I don't think taking the fifth is going to help the majority.

[SpyreX]

@KMD:

Oh, and the bolded part... So it's ok for town to do this, but because you think I am scum, you are going to use it against me? And in the same post that you accuse ME of tunnel vision?

I worded that poorly. If I didn't think your case was invalid and a scum-tactic, I wouldn't have called you out for focusing on your main case. You have said other positions.

If you think someone is soft claiming a power role, you don't have to tell the scum that. Chances are you're wrong anyway.

Dont assume the scum are illiterate. Thats exactly what I thought it was and why I want more explanation. See your awesome:

My honest answer would affect the town in a negative way.

Thats more of this awesome soft claiming.

[Kmd4390]

It's not the same thing. In Stormer's case, no one implied anything to warrent a question, he just blurted it out.

It's still power role discussion which does not help us at all.

[Kmd4390]

Spy, I am not soft claiming anything.

[Porkens]

It's still power role discussion which does not help us at all.

So, when I think someone is softclaiming, what do you suggest I do?

[Kmd4390]

Well, I don't think you need to announce it to the scum.

[Porkens]

Well, I don't think you need to announce it to the

majority

.

Fixed.


You've made that part clear. But what I was asking is; what should I DO (not 'what shouldn't I do')?

[Kmd4390]

Announcing to the majority also announces to the minority in case you didn't notice that. If you think it's a fake softclaim in order to look town, go after him for it. If you really think he is softclaiming a power roles, I see no reason to mention it. Keep it in mind, but don't announce it.

[Porkens]

Announcing to the majority also announces to the minority in case you didn't notice that.

If you think it's a fake softclaim in order to look town, go after him for it.

I don't think a real power role would hint at his role in that manner. I think he was building a crap case and din't have the information/energy to support it. So I am following your advice and going after him.

If you really think he is softclaiming a power roles, I see no reason to mention it. Keep it in mind, but don't announce it.

Obv. fair enough.

[Kmd4390]

So you think he is scum building up a fake claim for later?

[Porkens]

I think he was building a crap case and didn't have the information/energy to support it.

I think he wanted people to react like you'd have us act: note it now and let his lack of evidence go.

[Kmd4390]

Ok. Why do you think he would use a fake softclaim to protect Food? Do you think they are scum together? Do you think he is trying to look like town to Food? Do you think he expects Food to be lynched,knows Food is town, and wants to use it after Food flips?