Mature Mafia: Game Over

[armlx]

How does the replacing in thing work if I'm not getting a role from the mod? I've PM'ed and what not, but I'm not sure how this works.

[armlx]

Ok, I'm here. Unfortunately I won't be able to reread fully till Monday.

[armlx]

Still no reread time yet. Lame.

[armlx]

First off,

Unvote

till I can reread.

The armlx needs mod powers for this thread Vote Count
DGB - 3 (Logictus, nonny, DGB)
Adel - 1 (EK)
Glork - 1 (AXEL)
Nonny - 1 (Adel)
Werebear- 1 (Talitha)

Not Voting- 2 (Werebear, Glork, armlx)

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

If required to reach a lynch, I will revote DGB.

[armlx]

Armlx, you're too chicken to compromise yourself with my lynch? Could it be because you know I am town?

It could be that voting you would be essentially random for me as I have only read the posts that have been made since I replaced in.

[armlx]

mostly because I still don't trust those who don't have roles

What do you mean by that.

[armlx]

Vote nonny

Without reading any of the rest of the thread, what I see is you trying to cause a no lynch or quick turn around with your vote move.

[armlx]

Nonny, the general feeling I get is there is a reason to vote DGB, mainly because a lot of people are or were voting her. Even you were, so either A) there was a reason to vote DGB and you are just lying at this point or B) you voted DGB for no reason....

[armlx]

nonny, in a normal scenario you are right. However, in a <48 hours to deadline scenario, you are wrong.

[armlx]

I don't think we should just lock in and give up due to the deadline.

Flopping around in a 48 hour period usually only makes things worse. It looks to me like there was a solid wagon that you decided to derail.

[armlx]

btw, Nonny is like 99% town, too. fyi.

Is there role based info on this? If so, I'll unvote.

[armlx]

I'm not the type of player to vote on a wagon during a deadline that I don't believe in.

....

You were voting DGB pre-deadline. What made you lose faith?

Glork, not a good enough reason. Vote stands.

[armlx]

what do you mean pre-deadline? I was votin adel and then switched. That deadline has been up for like a week plus. It's not recent.

I thought your DGB vote was earlier chronologically. The game time line is sorta muddled for me. Basically, your shifting all over right now is really odd to me given the fact we don't really have time to actually do that well.

[armlx]

So, Glork's late support of both DGB and Nonny is making me not want to lynch either one of them. This is still assuming that Glork is scum, of course.

That might put Coron/Armlx up next on my chopping block. Armlx is not making a good impression by coming in and acting all confused "I'm still catching up" for days and days right up to the deadline. Coron didn't do anything remotely townish during his time either.

So, what about Armlx then?

Vote: Armlx

So you don't vote Glork as no one is voting him, then vote someone else no one is voting?

[armlx]

Glork - 3 (DGB, Adel, Axel)
DGB - 3 (Logictus, Werebear, Glork)
Nonny - 2 (Talitha, armlx)
Adel - 1 (EK)
Tally- 1 (nonny)

Not Voting- 2 (Glork)

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

After a quick reread, DGB has just been DGB this game, while Glork's last post is questionable, and upon a quick read of his posts I can't really see the logic behind anything he has done this game. I would be more inclined to place my vote there.

[armlx]

EBWODP:

That is, under the assumption we need 1 more vote to get to a lynch.

[armlx]

Trust me.

Why?

[armlx]

Nonny, the main thing against you is that Macros outright lied. About something quite important. It's more than enough to lynch you dead dead dead.

Link plz?

[armlx]

Vote Glork

Of his counter argument, he just says "true that" to all the points I feel make him the scummiest (policy on DGB, skewed PBPA, the hunch vote on Axel) and counters the ones I could care less about (how he arrived at the game being modless, semantic arguments about "woots").

[armlx]

I don't have mod powers....

I'm also still alive.

[armlx]

I'm alive!

I lol'ed.

[armlx]

I'm still down with my nonny vote from yesterday, her unvote is the scummiest thing I'm seeing on reread sadly. I could also get behind the vote a non-mod player, but neither of them has done anything actively scummy IMHO.

Vote nonny

[armlx]

armlx: Explain why the nonny unvote appears scummy to you?

People just hopping off the current wagon close to a deadline lynch to start another that no one else has backed causes all sorts of disasters

[armlx]

Tali, it was an unvote of DGB. Her starting the wagon is irrel. The disaster is someone starting a wagon and it having to finish in 2 days if it is to end in a lynch, which can end in either A) a no lynch or B) a mislynch based on inadequate investigation of a person's actions. And C) DGB is still alive.

[armlx]

But wait, again - why are you voting nonny rather than DGB?

From what I saw, DGB was just a deadline default lynch. nonny actually did something scummy.

[armlx]

What did I do that was scummy armlx?

Unvote DGB for someone completely out of the blue with deadline very close to being reached.

[armlx]

shit... what if this is a 2:10 or 2:1:9 game? I hadn't rethought in light of that possibility.

How can the game be 2:10 if there were 14 players?

[armlx]

So, what do people think of Glork's suggestions for scum, now that we know Glork was town?

Poor logical implications. Just because Glork was town does not mean he is right. I will however reread Logictus.

[armlx]

So, what do people think of Glork's suggestions for scum, now that we know Glork was town? At the least I'd like everyone to take a look at logicticus, and make a judgment... town or scum... ?

is there a particular reason we shouldn't also look at Axelrod?

Thats kind of interesting considering Axel was the catalyst for the lynch anyways.

Tally, do you think someone who presses a mislynch is more, less, or just as scummy as someone who hops on it mid-wagon?

[armlx]

I've felt like Axel is town, but not having played with him before am open-minded.

Axel is a manipulative bastard in my experience. I have to reread Random 2 on MTGS again though to get a better read.

[armlx]

Also, I sometimes try and act very "scummy" when I'm town, I don't base my vote solely on how scummy someone is acting.

I find this statement very odd. What do you base it on then.

[armlx]

EBWOP: The later part of that post is also very convenient.

[armlx]

It's convenient?? Convenient for whom, and how? Do you have any idea how many scummy looking townies I have lynched as scum? I was liking you for town armlx, but I really can't believe that someone who has been around since 2005 can't see the distinction.

Without lynching scummy players how do you expect to find scum? I don't like that you are using the WIFOM excuse of scummy people can be town to defend yourself. If you were arguing about another player I can see your point, but using it as a defense is invalid.

Vote Count

nonny- 1 (armlx)
DGB- 1 (Adel)
Adel- 1 (DGB)
logictus- 1 (Tally)

(Axel, Logictus, Werebear, nonny)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

Also, I realized one of my earlier comments was slightly confusing. When I said I don't have mod powers, I meant for unlocking/locking the thread an editing posts, not role based mod powers.

[armlx]

(See: earlier when I accused nonny of being scum because she was "too townie")

This seems like an attempt to justify yourself. Thats what I'm on about.

[armlx]

I really don't see just 2 scum out of 14 players. I mean, completely vanilla games go off with 3 scum in 12 players all the time. 3 out of 14 is the highly, highly more likely situation.

10/2 is standard and apparently unwinnable for town.

Oh go on you. This is making you drop like a stone (and it's not like you were high up on the "list of trust" to begin with)

What part of it? The part where I want to analyze your game play?

[armlx]

Guardian, GTFO, thx.

[armlx]

Is there any case against werebear? Did I miss someones post explaining this?

Its DGB.

[armlx]

Tally also wanted to jump on him too

I thought that was a joke.

[armlx]

I'm so confused.....

[armlx]

Lynching someone based on a statistical argument that more likely than not one scum would have no Mod. powers (even if you are assuming a random distribution) is better than nothing.

But is it better then scum hunting is what you have to prove though.

[armlx]

I think a vig IS a valuable player - if the vig kills thoughtfully each night, it's like a double lynch for the town.

QFT this. Someone beat me to the punch.

[armlx]

The adel/tally exchange on the last page was pretty interesting imo. Both of them looked pretty genuine in it, although I do wonder if adel really expected to get a scumtell out of it.

I'm reminded of Adel's WTF behavior in House Mafia, the only other game I played with her.

[armlx]

I don't think any townie would try to clear someone so easily. FOS axelrod on that alone.

I find this statement odd. Explain plz.

Armlx is after me for de-railing the lynch. With 10 active players and his vote not on the majority area either this is hypocritical at best.

I stated willingness to lynch DGB should the need arise. That was my "majority area vote".

[armlx]

Either way I don't find your attitude very pro-town. huge FoS werebear

I'm intrigued here.

[armlx]

While I strongly disagree with Werebear (integrity of game > results), he makes a point that did not deserve the response nonny gave. His suggested actions are merely wrong on a moral basis, not a scummy one, and trying to transpose the two is reaching.

[armlx]

I said I thought he wasn't pro-town.

Yes, but your FoS implies you think that his anti-town behavior (which it is not) was scummy.

[armlx]

Someone can do something suspicious without it nesscacrily being scummy or a scum tell for that matter.

ORLY? How can something be suspicious but not scummy? I understand anti-town but not scummy, but that I don't.

[armlx]

Can you explain how something can be suspicious and not scummy?

[armlx]

So if you use the word "lurking" in my direction again, I will simply assume that you're saying how sparkly and pro-town I am, and I will smile and ignore it.

This made me laugh.

[armlx]

So, was that you changing your deadline vote(even though you just said you would for DGB) or is that you following a bandwagon?

Of his counter argument, he just says "true that" to all the points I feel make him the scummiest (policy on DGB, skewed PBPA, the hunch vote on Axel) and counters the ones I could care less about (how he arrived at the game being modless, semantic arguments about "woots").

That was compared to DGB more or less being DGB over the course of the game.

[armlx]

That quote is from you not glork, right?

Err, yeah. I'm tired and fail at editing in my own quote tags on the quick quote function thing.

[armlx]

1. macros changed posts, got caught, (or confessed out of fear), and then got himself replaced by you.

I completely forgot about the post edit. That is anti-town AND scummy.

[armlx]

Everyone has said that, so apparantly it wasn't that scummy

Explain your point here.

[armlx]

You apparently do not understand how people A) respond to new actions and B) respond to replacements then. Older actions are often by passed in the assault against newer transgressions.

[armlx]

Okay. What don't you like about it? Saying you don't like something can be construed as you saying you think it's "scummy." Is that what you mean here? If so, what's scummy about it (in your opinion). I do this all the time, and I do not think that making a list of people you are feeling good/bad about at any particular moment in time is ever a scummy thing.

If not, then it would seem you are guilty of the same crime you insinuiate that I am guilty of - namely throwing out a list (or a statement) without purpose.

Axel, while your other points are fair, this one is not. Nonny definitely posted reasoning.

[armlx]

did you just totally skip my post? I meant the questions for everyone.

Pretty much, it was 4am. Though to be honest, I don't have real answers for you, as I only really started looking at and thinking about / agreeing with the argument today, and even then I think we are better off trying to lynch actually scummy people today.

[armlx]

Could you give us a fatty post with paragraphs and developed ideas and such? Looking back over your posts I can't extract any information that would illuminate your alignment, and Coron left us with even less. The net effect is that I'm left with the impression that you are lurking and avoiding attention.

Quite frankly, my read of this game was very rushed, and as such I'm kinda low of the large posting backing. I'll reread again this week however and get back to you.

[armlx]

Vote Count

nonny- 1 (armlx)
Tally- 1 (Adel)
logictus- 1 (Tally)
werebear- 1 (DGB)
axel- 1 (nonny)

(Axel, Logictus, Werebear)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

[armlx]

Hmm, my bad.

[armlx]

Reread should come late tonight or tomorrow unless I get really sidetracked.

[armlx]

Just so you know,

I will be away from Thursday till Sunday

.

Hopefully reread will come tomorrow if I am not too lazy.

[armlx]

Lols at the last post for multiple reasons.

Rereading now.

[armlx]

Starting from a clean slate:

Ok, my first thoughts are the Mathcam wagon was complete bullshit. I expect 2 of (DGB, Nonny, Werebear, Tali) are scum for their involvement in it. Nonny is the least likely as Mac was the least participative in it.

DGB's defense to Glorks allegations is pretty loose, but I find it odd that her actions of "being DGB" more or less were attacked so strongly in the first place.

DGB is pretty logical on page 9. Phoebus is not, probably 1 of the 2 scum.

Adel voting DGB in 227 seems off. As does Tali's subsequent mass claim request.

Don't like how Axel's 253 tries to pass itself off as analysis.

I agree with Coron's 301 about Glork's list, which was pretty loosely based in logic.

Glorks subsequent attack of Raj seems good, except the part where Raj flipped town, which makes it seem like a lot of that was blown out of proportion.

Also, Mathcam's semi-claim + a reread of my own PM makes me think the "1 no ability must be scum" is dumb. Probably random.

I'm also unsure how anyone could be a vig in this game based on the set up there as well. I have a feeling mad cheats went down.

Agree with Adel's 326 about DGB crossing game integrity lines with asking for "1 letter". Also makes me think DGB is town. I also agree with Adel in the whole her + integrity vs EK + balancing argument.

I agree with Pooky though, if someone claims their alignment is X and thats not it, you are right to lynch them. You just aren't right to force them to claim a wording to try to save their ass.

I can sorta buy Macros giving up and just voting, Phoebus seems opportunistic.

Phoebus's fatalism is odd on page 19.

Macros claiming the edit after his attitude towards it all game is a MAJOR wtf.

First 20 pages done, posting to just get this out there.

[armlx]

I don't like Axel's knowing/assuming which kill was which, as well as the whole tryin to fit motives to NKs. I also don't like Adel's quick unvote of him. I can see a pairing there.

Tally's 650 = epic lulz.

A lot of Axel's 694 looks reachy. Same with the subsequent Glork vote post.

EK vs Adel just seems like more of the same from before.

Adel makes the same slip as Axel on page 31. I can see an Axel-Adel pairing. Also not Axel's "obv town/not sure" waffling on Adel.

The nonny-Adel argument makes me feel like

Unvote Nonny

is right for now. The arguments seem genuine and logical, which is a good start for replacing in. I can also see Macros just acting dumb for no reason. I still don't like the things I voted her for or Macros's whole edit thing, but I need to reevaluate those in context of the other things I have looked at.

Axel's 805 is a WTF. Don't want to vote for actives? Are you real?

[armlx]

Vote: TDG

. Your lack of participation sucks, as do your posts when you actually DO participate. And that's coming from someone who hasn't participated as much as he should have. You reek of scum. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

I can't say I expected anything else after DGB's last post.

[armlx]

Werebear: Did DGB's last vote on you have anything to do with your vote?

[armlx]

Werebear is voting for "TDG" - there's no player with those initials here, so that the vote doesn't even count.

I'm presuming its you.

[armlx]

will note that in his re-read Armlx notes nothing in any of my posts that he likes/agrees with, and a bunch of things he dislikes/disagrees with/thinks are a stretch.

1) Why is not agreeing with your early posts bad?

2) Which things are stretches?

This includes my #694, which, again, Armlx appeared to agree with at the time when he voted for Glork.

Notice how the reread ends where I replace in.

It also includes my comments about eliminating all the Non-modpowered players, which Armlx indicated some agreement with at the start of the day.

I did, but upon fully reading mathcam's analysis of the scenario I find I'm agreeing with him more.

All this could be interpreted again, as him trying to generate some buzz for an Axelrod lynch. This does not make Axelrod happy. He's also pushing the idea that I am "linked" with Adel. This also does not make Axelrod happy, and is very bad analysis to boot.

Does not making you happy mean I am scummy?

Why is the Adel-you link I noted bad analysis.

You also say I merely summarize and say like/dislike. What do you think I am only summarizing, and what would you like me to elaborate on my thoughts behind?

Note how neither Adel nor myself are on either of those lists either.

What is the issue with this? I realize Axel + Adel + 2 people off that list is more scum then should be in the game, I also realize I could be wrong.

[armlx]

Axel, what differentiates what you are doing from the "like/dislikes and summary" that I did?

[armlx]

No scumbag would make the kind of posts he just made.

What the hell does this even mean? Thats not even real logic.

That said, everything I said about Werebear stands.

Vote Werebear

[armlx]

Armlx: i must have missed it could you direct me to where you had your case on werebear or re-create it? (totally serious, just so you know, no sarcasitic, really want to see your case)

Its a result of my reread.

Ok, my first thoughts are the Mathcam wagon was complete bullshit. I expect 2 of (DGB, Nonny, Werebear, Tali) are scum for their involvement in it. Nonny is the least likely as Mac was the least participative in it.

DGB is pretty logical on page 9. Phoebus is not, probably 1 of the 2 scum.

Phoebus's fatalism is odd on page 19.

I can sorta buy Macros giving up and just voting, Phoebus seems opportunistic.

The only major town thing I can see from him is the desire to cheat.

[armlx]

Why would that be a factor if we're "in Lylo as suspected"? I believe that you don't want to label people as town, because it limits who you'll be able to vote for without attracting suspicion today.

I have a response to this after Logic does.

[armlx]

1) The point is, you are making these long analysis-type posts where you are pointing out things you agree/disagree with. For some people, you point out both posts you agree with, and other posts you don't. When it came to me, however, it was all negative. It's like, suddenly there's nothing I've said this entire game that you agreed with. Though you hadn't mentioned it at the time (as pointed out, the times you did mention me, it seemed like you were agreeing with me more than anything else)

I disagreed with your play before I replaced. I agreed with your opinions after I replaced except for my change in opinion on the whole no-mod power 1 must be scum isse.

Obviously.

That sounds really OMGUS.

Essentially (correct me if I'm wrong) you accuse us of showing too much knowledge about who did the scum kill the previous night. We both make the same "slip" and you see this "link."

You are wrong. You both made the same slip, but the link is due to Adel's quick vote + unvote of you.

And when Coron speculated, it was 100% different. You two applied one kill to the scum group for sure, without any way to know that was true. Coron merely said "hey x happened", which is a weak scum tell for being an essentially empty post that only does 1 thing: light fishing.

Every time you say such and such seems "off," or "odd," or I don't like so and so, or so and so is "WTF" or "reachy," and you DON'T explain WHAT about it that you don't like. WHAT seems off. WHY don't you like it, and you just leave your comment hanging there in the air.

I have said multiple times if you want elaborations I will give them.

[armlx]

And the voting against me as far as I can tell is completely baseless, they're not even pretending to have a reason.

Hi. See my post. Mainly Phoebus's actions.

[armlx]

Is this game actually going anywhere?

I think so.

Why do you think it isn't?

[armlx]

Have you considered anyone that isn't nonny (not that I don't find her moderately/fairly scummy)?

[armlx]

have you been reading the thread? yes, I've gone pretty hard after everyone still living except for you and logic.

I realize. Thats why its odd you said only nonny.

[armlx]

Would scum really leave someone that scummy-looking alive this long?

What does this mean?

I take the very absence of a strong wagon on her as evidence of her scumminess.

While I can see what you mean, I want an elaboration.

[armlx]

IRC everyone who is currently alive, with the exception of logic and werebear, has voted for Nonny at least once,

Does this not work in her favor?

mis-lynched if she were scum,

You mean town?

Your point about her being too scummy to not be wagoned if town is what I was thinking you meant though.

[armlx]

a: scum do vote for occasionaly as a form of distancing. you know this.

I do, in fact, realize this. I'm interested in the context of each of those votes.

[armlx]

Macros's edit of the death post and more or less lying about doing it.

[armlx]

Anything more like recent?

The vote flop yesterday.

[armlx]

Ah yes, the fact we are in LyLo actually makes not revealing who we all think is town even more important, as if the mafia kills a suspect its infinitely better for us. See the end game of Strawberry Mafia for a sorta applicable scenario (4-2, one townie says "Hey, I think X is town", mafia kills them etc etc).

[armlx]

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Ok, my first thoughts are the Mathcam wagon was complete bullshit. I expect 2 of (DGB, Nonny, Werebear, Tali) are scum for their involvement in it. Nonny is the least likely as Mac was the least participative in it.

DGB is pretty logical on page 9. Phoebus is not, probably 1 of the 2 scum.

Phoebus's fatalism is odd on page 19.

I can sorta buy Macros giving up and just voting, Phoebus seems opportunistic.

The only major town thing I can see from him is the desire to cheat.

[armlx]

This is most likely a vanilla game, for someone to die they would have to be murdered. How is there any question about that?

It was night 1, no one knew that.

[armlx]

Tali, to be fair I would assume the first kill of the game like that was a scum kill.

[armlx]

Tali: When I first skimmed the game, long before I replaced, I assumed it was an NK.

Werebear: The who hates the game logic is dumb.

And you are guilty because the person you replaced was blatantly opportunistic at times.

[armlx]

Tally- 1 (Adel)
logictus- 1 (Tally)
werebear- 2 (DGB, armlx)
axel- 1 (nonny)
DGB- 1 (werebear)

(Axel, Logictus)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

I notice Axel has kept his vote chilling nowhere this whole time.

[armlx]

I would probably vote nonny, but no-one else is, so I guess I'll just go back to the re-read.

Why is that a reason not to vote someone?

[armlx]

Heh, what if the scum group were axel and Logictus, and they're waiting for someone to get to 3 so they can pounce?

To be fair they could be voting someone then pounce, but if they weren't voting in the first place its easier to explain their vote if something goes wrong.

[armlx]

logictus- 1 (Tally)
werebear- 2 (DGB, armlx)
axel- 1 (nonny)
DGB- 1 (werebear)
nonny-1 (Adel)

(Axel, Logictus)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

Fixed. I updated from the last VC, which was wrong.

[armlx]

That "If she was town, more people would vote her" sounds really close to WIFOM IMHO.

[armlx]

not to mention that twice now you have "accidently" left off my vote on Nonny. Twice.

I copy pasted my last VC and just skimmed for votes since then. This is a clear attempt to spin my actions as anything other then lazy like most mods doing VCs.

I also see that your vote is on Werebear, along with DGB's. Why do you think the case against Werebear is stronger than the case against Nonny? IIRC, you began this day with a vote on Nonny, why aren't you voting for her now?

I feel Phoebus's actions were worse then Macros's.

WIFOM? So you think that scum aren't pushing for a Nonny mislynch so that we will think that she is scum because there isn't a serious wagon on her and mislynch her without their help?

Wouldn't it then be too obvious if there were all these votes there?

[armlx]

What are the differences between Coron's faults and Phoebus's again? None?

Phoebus was on the Mathcam wagon, to say the least.

I'm tempted to think that we aren't really in lynch or lose because there hasn't been a strong wagon.

I'm tempted to think we are b/c of balance reasons.

[armlx]

Is this not just what Adel said?

[armlx]

It seems so obvious to me that if she were town then scum would be on her wagon

[armlx]

My point is more about the nonny wagon. Adel probably just said it a page early.

[armlx]

I'm still confused and had to think about that for several minutes. Are you saying I'm scum and nonny's town? Because you could just come out and say it instead of acting all slimy-like.

I'm saying I believe Adel's statement applies here. I bet 1 of the two of you is scum.

[armlx]

Why? I feel that at least 1 of you is scum baiting a townie or 2 into the wagon so a QL can happen.

[armlx]

Anyway, why have you changed your mind on nonny? You were all about lynching her earlier.

I haven't 100% changed my mind. I feel Werebear is a much more valid suspect.

And yes. 1 of you + Adel.

[armlx]

Couldnt this logic be applied to anyone of the 5 or so people sticking at 1 vote forever?

Nonny is slightly more applicable as EVERYONE has been suspicious of her at some point.

[armlx]

armix

You even misspelled it......

[armlx]

sweet jesus, I've read seen your name on the screen hundreds if not thousands of times, and I always thought the "l" was an "i".

I've found that people are about 70/30 on getting it right.

[armlx]

Sorry, I forget nothing happens on here but snarky comments and off-topic discussions.

Way to keep up the good work, guys.

So, how about the Giants this year?

*grin*

Nice hypocrisy....

[armlx]

Or the mod played to the 10-2 is unwinnable meta. Adding an extra day in a vanilla game seems fairish to help balance it.

[armlx]

explain the extra kill day 2 then.

Cheatz?

[armlx]

also, are you willing to lynch Nonny?

I guess. Rather lynch Werebear, but she's a good second.

[armlx]

At this point I almost just want to be lynched so you guys will listen to me, and so we can move on and/or be productive in actually scum hunting and not just pointing fingers with little to no reasoning.

Except we are probably in LyLo.

[armlx]

While i did find his attempt to ask the "vig" to cheat very scummy

Why was it scummy?

[armlx]

I wanted an answer from nonny.....

[armlx]

I'd stick to one of the two people who... are trying to push the town into lynching a townie.

Appeal to emotion.

[armlx]

huh i didn't even notice that......don't really like it either. Phrasing like that always bugs me, personally.

I agree. I've responded to it so many times I have the default response I used.

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I'm posting this in all my games. My computer power cord just broke again, same issue as last time. I'm going to be on LA for a week or two while I wait for a new one to arrive.

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Hey Nonny, look at me, not hammering you! If you can explain why scum me does that to town you...well, I'll be impressed.

The fact there's a potentially active vig is a reason. Scum might want to avoid being obv scum.

That said, I'm definitely willing to hammer once everyone checks in on it.

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Overall, it's nothing to write home about.

I agree with this on DGB.

Tally's last post actually is the game winner I think. That makes a lot of sense. Most sure of WB, vote is staying there for now.

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Tally makes sense here especially as WB isn't voting nonny, nilla claim isn't really that spectacular either.

?Unvote, Vote Nonny

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCAjmuA1HDk

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I take it you are alive as well?

That was the joke.

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Axel, just a question to answer in retrospect once the game is over: why not kill N3?

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Axel, if you shot N3, it would have been 7 alive. 4-3.

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Yeah, everyone kept saying logic was scummy but no one did anything. Then we pulled that reasoning on nonny.

Scum was Logic, me, and Adel.