Prophecy Mafia - Over

[Skruffs]

I totally replaced CrashTextDummie.

I have been waiting for this day... forever.

[Skruffs]

Vote : UltimaAvalon

Just the first post was enough for me.

[Skruffs]

Phate is scum, gorrad is scum.

[Skruffs]

Flameaxe is also likely scum.

[Skruffs]

Gorrad:
Your 'strategy' in this game seems to be about minimizing your own input while still trying to appear town. Why is that?

Also, to 'catch' something, you have to comment on it - is it in your opinion that not a single scummy thing has happened in the game?

You are setting yourself up to take a 'back seat' burner, intentionally enought o announce as such. Why?

[Skruffs]

And if EVERYONE took that view, nobody would say anything, ever, ebcause everyone would be waiting for everyone else.

If you want to catch someone, you have to ask questions, or t least spur conversations.

Bad, Bad Gorrad.

[Skruffs]

Gorrad is right.
*slashes wrists* why should we even bother talking? I mean what's the point.

Let's idle until the cop claims in an attempt to keep the game from stalling out.

Or, even better, why not skip to two days before deadline? Cuz, gawd, actually analyzing the game is so bourgeouise.

[Skruffs]

Gorrad is right.
*slashes wrists* why should we even bother talking? I mean what's the point.

Let's idle until the cop claims in an attempt to keep the game from stalling out.

Or, even better, why not skip to two days before deadline? Cuz, gawd, actually analyzing the game is so bourgeouise.

I'm not accusing you of lurking. I'm confirming your own statement that you have no intention of contributing unless someone does something scummy enough for you to notice. Since you've already read the entire game and found nnothing scummy enough to pay note to, I am going to take your statement to mean 'you're on your own, town".

Personally, I want people who are interested in killing scum. Your jaded "who wants to vote me so we can yell at each other" was cleverly worded to ward off actual votes. That's fine, my intentions aren't to get votes on you. But you are playing like a survivor and I don't remember seeing one in the setup.

[Skruffs]

Hmm. Odd.

[Skruffs]

Frequency means nothing. Content means everything. Gorrad, in saying he wasn't going to contribute, wound up contributing (against his best interests, no less).

[Skruffs]

Phate is scum too.

[Skruffs]

Gorrad - if you act scummy, (intentionally, no less), and people call attention to it and begin to vote for it, why are THEY scum?

It's a ncie, but botched attempt at reverse psychology scum hunting.

[Skruffs]

Eh, you said you didn't find anything in the game scummy, and that you weren't going to contribute until you did. You get called out and suddenly it was an elaborate plan?

Don't you think just scum hunting in the first place, would have been a bit more effective?

[Skruffs]

Vote : Gorrad

[Skruffs]

Xpom telo:
You don't have to read the entire thread. However, you probably *should* find something to tallk about.. You, like gorrad, seem to be insinuating that you have no reason to look any further than others have already looked. How do you think that will help the town?

[Skruffs]

vote flAmeaxe

I love traps!

[Skruffs]

I suppose I should have scrolled up.

Unvote, Vote: Gorrad

I thought you were the one who had claimed to have set a trap. Plus I still don't like your first post of the day.

[Skruffs]

What have you done, since then?
Let me guess, you will also try to claim the last of the day, right?

[Skruffs]

I like fancy new pants.

I also like tarps.

unvote, vote ultimaavalon

[Skruffs]

Flameaxe is still good. ^.^ But I'm ambivalent.

[Skruffs]

good for hte noose. ^.^

[Skruffs]

I forget, the thing with UA was some time ago. You may be right.

Unvote, Vote Flameaxe

I like this better after all. I enjoy that you are berating me for not piecing it together, when as far as I can tell, you have not had more than one sentence in any of your posts. And the only post you were adament/put effort into making was the first post of the day.

[Skruffs]

My bad, Flameaxe.

All your posts are about one sentence long, except for one, which has an addition 3-point list in it. (Presumably this was to avoid breaking the tradition of having only one sentence per post)

[Skruffs]

What do you mean, a better case?
I'm pretty happy with this one.

[Skruffs]

Is that typical Flameaxe play?

[Skruffs]

Is that typical Flameaxe play?

Basically. Do I want it to be? No, not really. But I'm quite lazy.

I seemed to have recalled a very GOOD post by you in Ork Mafia. I reviewed and es, you did have a good post, but most of hte others were one liners. That aside, you have still put more effort into making sure you fulfilled one of your prophecies at thebeginning of the day than you have trying to help totwn. So....

[Skruffs]

Well, thank you for deciding that for me.

[Skruffs]

Reasoning again?
Just as a refresher.. Everyone's ignoring this game, and I'm hesitant to motivate it fi it's a lost cause.

[Skruffs]

that's pretty typically FL, though.

[Skruffs]

I'm not excusing FL. I think that FL is inherently not helpful, so basically the wagon on him is a policy lynch. It doesn't mean it's not good, just that it's not inspired.

I'm more inspired with my vote on flameaxe, who *can* be helpful, but is laying low for some reason.

[Skruffs]

I *feel* pretty dumb in this game.

[Skruffs]

That's not respectful.
JDodge put some time and effort to get this game up and running; it seems to be a victim of the New Year slump, unfortuantely.

[Skruffs]

So let me get this straight... the VIG has killed the jailkeeper AND the super backup...

[Skruffs]

vote curiouskharmadog

[Skruffs]

Which one, dog?

[Skruffs]

Somehow I didn't see that when I scrolled up.
I was confused.

Vote : Oman

Looking for more to knock off?

[Skruffs]

Ahh. Got their kill methods switched up.

Oman is still scum.

[Skruffs]

Scum rarely can, against my irreefutabe logic.

Seriously, though, starting off the day trolling for power roles?

[Skruffs]

Gorrad - Question:
Are you saying that you are not scumful?

[Skruffs]

Yuppo.

Your lack of response confirms your guilt.

Now die.

[Skruffs]

Come on.
Just one mafia player, give up. You'll be losing for yourself, but helping make the game great again, and that's the only way your buddies can win, if they actually win the game.

[Skruffs]

Except we haven't. You could have answered that yourself. Were you trying to fish out the vig to respond to you?
I think so.

[Skruffs]

Good quote Oman.
I'm going to leave my vote on you.
Don't worry though, I am not trying to get you lynched...
I'm just too lazy to move it.

[Skruffs]

YES. If he's incompetent (and this WILL get me some hate) he's gonna kill townies, and then, why the fuck would I want him to NOT get NKed.

Eventually the vig is going to hit mafia, if only because that will be all that is left.

and lynching a stupid power role over scum? Get your priorities straight.

[Skruffs]

Oman:
I wasn't defending the vigilante in my post. That was what we English folks call "Dark Humor".

[Skruffs]

Unvote, Vote Lowell

[Skruffs]

You thought you could escape so easily...

[Skruffs]

Well, we could start forcing suspicous players to quote their prophecies, in a 'trial by water' scenario... Would be a great way to get some extra lynches in without allowing the mafia or vig to kill more pro-town players...

[Skruffs]

a trial by water is from back in the witch days. A woman suspected of being a witch would be dunked underwater (or something) and if they sunk, they were a real woman and thus were 'good', but if they floated, they were a witch, and thus would be killed in another way. That was the 'easy way' for a man to get a divorce, back then. >.>

The morphology is similar here; if someone claims a prophecy and doesn't get modkilled, they are a witch and so we lynch them.

[Skruffs]

THey'd stil be modkilled, which means they'd be dead and role revealed without giving scum the benefit of night.

If you guys want, I'll go first?

[Skruffs]

well i AM town, that's why i am trying to get us all killed.

[Skruffs]

No. That was tongue in cheek. I just see getting a bunch of people modkilled intentionally (ie by group effort/voting) than by lynchings as possibly being more beneficial to town.

[Skruffs]

Says the man who's last serious post was ten days ago... welcome back...

[Skruffs]

Gorrad:
There are people in this game (if you are not one yourself) who want to KILL J00.

How is it that you can't find anything to comment on?!

[Skruffs]

Wut you sayin bout me?

[Skruffs]

unvote, vote gorrad

[Skruffs]

"I haven't talked to anytone yet"
Do you mean your scumbuddies, there?

[Skruffs]

I *could* be a jerk-scum, too, don't forget that. However, being that you only joined a week or two ago, I thought it was worth it to poke you a little with some possibly freudian slips or whatnot.

Now the question is: are you overreacting because you feel you got caught and have a guilty consciounse or are you over reacting because you are town and think I'm trying to build a case that can't be defended against on an obvtown (you). Hmmmm.

[Skruffs]

I guess if all town has "town will mislynch" as prophecies and athen intentionally try badly, what chance do they have?

[Skruffs]

Don't apologize for voting, focus on getting him lynched.

[Skruffs]

Lowell, did you claim? Because the best you can claim is townie, in my eyes.

[Skruffs]

There are still 13 people left. Chill out.

To review: you are upset that I've ignored the three days of analysis when I cast my vote. Your solution: ignore three days of analysis to cast your vote on me. Good plan.

You said this earlier in this day - why are you now worried about a scum sweep?

[Skruffs]

side note, Lowell, I have seen people modkilled for the exact samething.

orly?

[Skruffs]

ummm... yeah, sorry farside, that kind of confirms it in my opinion...

Unvote, Vote: Farside22

If we hurry we may get this done in time.

[Skruffs]

Wow, Oman, and here I Thought you were the crappy vig.

If you turn against town and are involved in a mislynch, I'm pretty sure that the vig, if he knows that his side is automatically going to lose, is going to make sure that you also don't win. At least, I know I Would.

[Skruffs]

Since when???
Town players usually get scum-reads on me. It's only mafia that really say I am town.

Fos: Bookitty

[Skruffs]

And how does that seem protown at all?
If I was mafia, I'd want to direct the vig to hit the survivor, too, to ensure no chance of losing.

[Skruffs]

It's not childish revenge play, oman. You yourself have said you have done nothing to help the town; now, all of a sudden, you want town to help you, even while saying you don't care who wins?


I don't see how you think that being a survivor entitles you to win, at all, considering you have carefully been sabotaguing town the entire game.

I'm not the vig; so go ahead and keep voting me. If mafia piles on and quck lynches me, YOU LOSE..

[Skruffs]

Side note: I believe that's 3 people who have expressed suspicion of me, and nobody except me making suspicion of anyone else.

Ironically, oman, even if you are the survivor, why do you think the mafia will want to share a win with you? They would win by nking you as much as anyone else, plus there's the wifom of them thinking you are actually the vig fakeclaiming as survivor.

[Skruffs]

Agreed. What's your point? If you were the survivor, would you counterclaim someone else's survivor claim? Why? Especially if you were willing to side with mafia?

[Skruffs]

Sykedoc : Why are you ignoring Oman's vote on me?

Lowell - you just admitted to being scum. Cool.

Oman has said that he has intentionally not tried to help either side. Now he wants us to help him. He doesn't care if our side wins. But he wants to make sure he does. While that may be considered Survivor-ideal play, him saying it out loud means he is basically saying he will win with scum if given the chance. Thus : Sine hte scum can't auto-win even with a majority because of hte vig, I think the vig should kill Oman if it turns out there's no chance for town to win. I think absolutely that a traitor to the town (even if their official alignment is neutral) should be taken down. That should be something OMan has to worry about if he's going to take the easy way out. THer'es no wasy way out for town, I don't see why he should have one.


Jdodge : still wondering why you wanted to nolynch yesterday (you weren't voting at deadline) and want to nolynch today, too.

[Skruffs]

Totally criticized JDodgge for hte wrong game. >.>
Sorry Bookitty - the rest of my post is applicable though.

[Skruffs]

You aren't a confirmed survivor, Oman.

You were voting someone you think is town, at lylo, because they think you should be taken town, if, you turn against the town.

You are putting your win condition above that of the town's and simultaneously decrying the plight of the poor survivor who has to make it to the end game.

You are saying that the 'easy route' would have been for town to lynch scum, but you yourself have made a point of not trying to help town catch scum.

Where do *you* get off calling me childish?

Who do *you* think the vig should target? Why?

[Skruffs]

anyone who is town didnt/shouldnt think it was cryptic.

OF COURSE ITS CRYPTIC! ALL YOU FREAKIN SAID WAS VOTE SYKEDOC!
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT YOU VOTED ME FOR?

That is his point.

Excuse my french, but without a fucking reason, you're clearly trying to bandwagon me for NO reason, thus making probably the BIGGEST scumtell i've ever seen in my life.

vote curiouskarmadog

because you're frankly a bit of an ass, and you have NO reason to be voting me. I will unvote you if you come up with a legitimate reason instead of being a wavering wanker.

On to Oman's post from earlier today:

I recall Lowell claiming that he was a vanilla town role that began with a C, if you'll take a look at why i yelled at him earlier, its more suspicious now than it was before. He was being very ehh earlier when he was not just saying his role but after looking at Oman's Post, i went to check his numbers myself, being that i haven't memorized who is dead and who isn't because i wasnt here when they died. Clearly Lowell is hiding something as the only cop in the game is dead, and so is the backup, if he's claiming Vig why did he say "C"? Please claim because in all honesty your post is annoying me because if you are trying to claim cop theres no reason you shouldn't be lynched.

I was modkilled for claiming as much of my role as he did. If you were a vanilla townie, you would know what he was claiming. So you need to claim, now. I'm not voting you because it's possible you are still a town role that's not vanilla.

[Skruffs]

THe assumption isn't worth possibly losing the game over.

[Skruffs]

Note: Oman would very likely vote the vig, knowing the mafia could join with him, for an automatic win with mafia.

[Skruffs]

Fos : Lowell

[Skruffs]

There are 5 mafia alive, and one survivor, which makes 6.
Are are in LYLO, and the only thing keeping Oman from randomly voting a townie and hoping the mafia just quick vote and kill a townie is the fear of a vig-reprisal causing him to lose the game.

If we lynch mafia, the vig still needs to hit another mafia, or Oman, to bring hte numbers back down to *regular* lylo. (We're hyper lylo at this point). If Oman publicly agrees to side with the mafia, the mafia might do some weird public outing where they offer him protection to vote with them or something, (ewether they would do so or not isn't the point, he would fall for it).

Would it be better to just lynch Ooman today and hope the vig gets lucky tonight?

[Skruffs]

Lowell sets off the scumdar having made two really...really bad votes. However, I'm not willing to risk a lylo on it.

Let me crunch these

1 Mafia GF
1 Mafia Doc
3 Mafia Goons

1 Jailkeeper
1 Cop
1 Super-backup

1 Vig
1 Miller

1 Survivor

10 Townies

3 Townies

5 Town
5 Mafia
1 Survivor

If we lynch town:

4 Town
4 mafia
1 survivor

IF vig hits scum and scum NKs survivor:
4 Town
3 Mafia
0 Survivor


TECHNICALLY: we can get out of a Lylo today, but I'm not risking our lives on a survivor getting shot like that.

I am considering masclaim to lower our potential pool for shooting and voting. For? Against? Comments either way?

Basically: Lynching survivor now means we can only win if vig kills scum and scum NKs town

Lynching town now means we can only just if vig kills scum and scum NKs survivor (same net eqn. as above).

So basically....lets hunt some scum.

I don't like skruffs for some of his stuff said yesterday (or the day before). I'd have to go back through it to find it.

Lowell, why did you not notice that Oman knew there were five mafiates, as well?

[Skruffs]

Really, Lowell - you somehow missed Oman's rundown that included the five mafia, but attacked me for it later on:

Why? Was it because Oman claimed survivor and thus you had no reason to attack him, because you are scum?

"Objection! Leading the witness!"

Overrruled. ANSWER THE QUESTION LOWELL!


(Also, Oman - you shouldn't bait the vig. I did it in Pirates vs Ninjas and it didn't work. And the vig KNOWS you aren't pro-twon, so, you just gave him a way to beat that solution.)

[Skruffs]

Well you noticed when I did it, so you must have bene paying some attention, right?

[Skruffs]

Well you've cleared the survivor, the vig-outer, and yourself. Good job, Lowell.

[Skruffs]

I sincerely doubt the mafia-doc is interested in keeping the vig alive, too.

So, lowell should be lynched, yes?

[Skruffs]

Vote Count:

Lowell - Oman
Bookitty - Lowell

Dizzy - Oman, Lowell
CKD - Dizzy

This is all from one page, in LYLO. Oman has now voted at least three playres, which is 'acceptab;e' because he is the survivor and just wants the game to end so he can win.

I don't think Dizzy is scum; I don' tthink scum would be trying to out the vig today, and drawing as much attention to themselves. They will just follow Oman onto a townie, let the vig hit oman instead of them, kill another townie, and be unable to lose after that.

Explanation (assuming they vote townie and this happens)
Now: 1V-4T-5M-1S
Lynch a townie: 1V-3T-5M-1S
Hit a random townie, vig hits OMan: 1V-2T-5M-
AT this point tomorrow even with the vig alive the mafia can not lose. They power vote someone, let's just assume it's another townie, not even needing to hide - (but the mafia doc will probably try to help, but, whatever)
1V-1T-5M
If the vig hits a scum at that point, and isn't NK'd, it's stilll1-4 the last day.

If we backtrack and go to what happens if the vig hits scum tonight instead of oman after lynching a townie:
1V-2T-4M-1S
The mafia still win, EVEN if Oman is on town's side as survivor, simply because town will not be able to push a lynch onto one of them without mafia's help. Presumably we go to nolynch, because town can't lynch mafia without mafia's help.

MAfia have 3 options to choose from, the vig has 6. For the sake of convenience, let's say the vig hits mafia and mafia hits townie.

1V-1T-3M-1S - Same situation. The mafia will win by default because the vig will be killed before he can vig all the mafiates, if we mislynch today. This is our last chance.


I completely believe that dizzy is probably the wrong wagon, and I would like to think that the vig will hit someone who quick votes right now. I don't care how long hte game has been going on, how boring it is, or how assinine some of hte players are, it's 'not a lost cause yet.

I think that since we lose if we lynch a townie today, regardless of who the vig hits, that he may as well hit oman if oman was on the losing wagon. I think OMan should be forced to try and help town, something he says he is doing but his actions do not reflect.




The best thing for us all to do, even if we have already claimed townie, is to ALL claim Vig. This is a very "I AM SPARTACUS" situation.

Even lynching OMan today results in a loss for town, now that I think about it. I do think that if he hurts town by acting as he is acting now, he should be prevented from making his own win condition, and I don' thtink any amount of whining by him is going to change my opinion. Saying "You lost, at least let me win" when you have intentionally been trying to make town lose is not garnering you any support.

[Skruffs]

Nope. IF the mafia kills me, and the vig kills mafia, its Lylo. Since there is still the option that the mafia can select the survivour and the vig could select so as to kill mafia, there is no endgame tonight.

This isn't going to happen.

Dizzy said it was GF and 4 goons; it's GF and 3 goons and mafia doctor.


Dunno if htat means anything, though.

[Skruffs]

HAs anyone been on any of the wagons other than Oman(survivor)?
Especially without reasoning?
REmember that mafia could quick lynch with Oman's vote, for a win, so, unexpected lylo jumps would be advantageous for scum.

[Skruffs]

The case that sykedoc left abruptly was used, incorrectly, in Big Love against Guardian, who was replaced by Sikario. Sikario was lynched instead of known scum which put town in an almost unwinnable situation, and they quickly lost.

Using someone's droping out of a game as a scum tell is not acceptable. I have never seen it used correctly by town to catch scum. Actually, I think town (desperately) use it more often than scum do, in situations where there are not many other leads.

My guess is that Lowell is scum.
My guess is that Dizzy is town.
My guess is that Oman is survivor.
My guess is that Flameaxe is scum.
My guess is that BooKitty is town.
My guess is that Iammars is scum.
My guess is that Stark is scum.
My guess is that COW is town.
My guess is that UltimaAvalon is town.
My guess is that curiouskarmadog is scum.
And of course, I am town.

[Skruffs]

I wasn't inferring that you were, CKD. In fact, I Wasn't directly inferring that anyone was. I just remembered that it had been bandied about.

Oman: Do you think CKD is town?

[Skruffs]

Aren't you more interested in knowing why I think you are scum?

[Skruffs]

you agree wth skruffs that I said "lose" because I am scum and the town is losing? OR I said "lose" because I was in a heated discussion with someone that I felt was avoiding the conversation and calling casting insults.

I've never referred to that quote in regards to you, CKD.

[Skruffs]

Again, why aren't you interested in why I think you are scum?
Considering there is equal numbers of town and scum, I would think that clearing or damning any player is equally beneficial (minus a vig claiming of course)

[Skruffs]

Unvote, Vote: Lowell

[Skruffs]

Answer the woman.

[Skruffs]

Because I think Dizzy is town?
Did you not notice the three votes that followed Oman onto her, with basically "um sure, she's scum heh heh" reasoning?

Why is it so odd that I feel Dizzy is town?

From what I understand your biggest beef with dizzy si that she called you a moron. You were voting her until Ooman unvoted, which is why I have everyone else who was voting her as scum.

That you didn't want to hear that is kind of interesting; you want to not clear dizzy more than you want to defend yourself.

[Skruffs]

If you think he is most likely scum, then why are you cncerned with giving him time to defend yourself? He'a done no significant posting since the beginning of the game. Why are you concerned that he starts now?

[Skruffs]

And if he refuses to say anything?
You are giving him an 'out' by lurking.

[Skruffs]

I have already answered it CKD : Go back a page or two and stop trying to be inflammatory, you Scummy McOysterscum.

Dizzy got three votes in rapid succession for a 'tell' about the role claim that was also made by a town player who was presumably vigged for that same mistake. That is, as far as I can see, the ONLY point that's been raised against her, and that she was almost lynched for it - by a few players who voted her only after the survivor (the player the scum are probably counting on to misvote so as to pile on because he wins with them anyways) voted her.

So yes, I Think that scum made an accident in oppurtunistically wagoning her at LYLO thinking they could get a quick win.


I Think Lowell is one of those scum, and I Think you are one of those scum.

Now, you ignored that when I said it earlier, and I am assuming you will pretend to ignore it again the next time. I do get the feeling though, that YOU know her alignment.

[Skruffs]

It's not that she wasn't town, it was that
A) The votes that jumped on her were completely without reason and can not possible be described as anything else than oppurtunistic
B) After oman unvoted, so did some of the players, which makes me think that ALL The players who jumped on after Oman were in fact scum.


I am surprised that you were okay with everyone believing 'that line of bullshit' about Dizzy in the first place and that, if you are town, you weren't at all suspicious at how fast she had a wagon on her
AT LYNCH OR LOSE...

But now that Lowell has ONE VOTE on him you are completely going CRAZY over it.

[Skruffs]

What was?
Defending him?
Or giving him a chance to defend himself?
You realize that he's trying to direct the vig, right?

[Skruffs]

So you're not going to look at him because you can't get a read on him? There's absolutely no curiousity about his alignment, just avoidance issues?
Sheesh, maybe CKD is right about you after all

You realize he was quick-lynching you earlier in the day? That doesn't seem scummy?

[Skruffs]

But if he was ignorant of the reason you were being voted, and was still voting, doesn't that make him opportunistic?

[Skruffs]

Dizzy:
Have you actually looked at what Lowell said?

Here's any relevant posts, in order:

I'll be honest. I'm trying to win, of course, but I'd be happy to just kill 1 scum before we lose. I don't want to be against a shutout here.

Outing the Vig is a terrible idea (even if the vig has been, uh... bad), though I dont' think Diz is scummy for bringing it up (she seems genuine). Oman is not the lynch for obvious reasons, and I'm not the lynch for the same reasons I wasn't yesterday.

I'm going to

vote bookitty

. This is pretty much a shot in the dark.

I'd probably lynch dizzy too if it came to it.

unvote, vote dizzy

. Why the hell not.

All right I'll

unvote

, in case I'm wrong.

There's a chance I won't be able to post from tonight until Friday. Just letting you all know.

Dizzy and Boo. Lynch them first, then come to me.

And yet you are defending him. He defended you for trying to out the vig (which helps town) and then started voting you without giving any reasoning, whatsoever, and when called on it, unvoted. But wants to vote you anyways.

And for some reason you think he is 'ignorant of certain information' - what information was he ignorant of?

And hten when he said you were his scum buddy, you passed it off as a joke, which seems nervous to me: IF someone said I was their scum buddy, and I *Wasn't*, I would attack them for it, but you would rather just ignore it. This after saying Loewll should be given time to defend himself - which he basically has spit on - and now defending him even more.

[Skruffs]

Lowell- you mean after you are lynched and turn up scum?

[Skruffs]

I'm not going to let a game die if I can help it. THat's a soul-meta on me that I stick to as scum or as town.

[Skruffs]

I'm a sucker for WIFOM, but I actually believe 1519 is Diz being confused, not Diz pretending to be confused. So she's not the lynch today.

unvote, vote ultimaavalon

. Did we try this already? In isolation his posts look terrible, and he's showing up just enough to not get replaced. In a game like this (aka townies eating each other like idiots) that seems awfully scummy to me.

This is Lowell conceeding his game as scum, because that is exactly how he has played the entire frekking game.

[Skruffs]

Don't give up just because your scum partner is being lynched. YOU CAN STILL MAKE IT!

[Skruffs]

CKD you must be really desperate if you are calling for a mod abandonment now that your partner Lowell is being lynched.

[Skruffs]

Oman: Do you think it's interesting that CKD is trying to get your opinon - the swing vote - and not anyone else's opinion on me?

Dizzy, that was your third strike. Lowell first, then you. Then cow.

[Skruffs]

Well, I take that back, I just don't understand why you think getting hte vig to claim (And then dying, completely eliminating his chances of helping town) would help us in the long run; it would reduce a random lynch to 5/9, slightly over 50% , but we dont need to random lynch. Lowell is scum, you agree he is scum, there is NO REASON to be trying to find out who the vig is.

[Skruffs]

Because it only increases the chances by ONE, whereas leaving hte vig anonymous increases the chances by MORE than one

Think about it this way - what you are trying to do is remove one player from the potential lynch list. The vig can do that EVERY night, whereas you want to make it a one-time deal.

[Skruffs]

We're walking a fine line. Right now the vig has a 50/50 chance of vigging correctly if we lynch correctly today. If we don't, we lose, and he should vig Oman (but of course it's his choice) if oman was on the losing battle. I am pushing that to keep Oman from just giving up like he did earlier and voting anyone.

If the vig kills and messes up, we lose, but right now he's one of the better options we have to try to protect, and the mafia want to find out what he is to help themselves win, and you are consistently pushing that agenda yourself.

To all townies: Vote lowell please.

Oman if you vote lowell and he turns up town, then I am rescinding my command that the vig target you and asking him to just do whatever he wants. This is to let you feel like you can help.

[Skruffs]

Someone call the WIFOMbulance...

[Skruffs]

What about hte players that were here to vote Dizzy but not here to vote you?

[Skruffs]

The way this game ends is with me and Oman. Sorry.

[Skruffs]

Why is that? I thought you wanted the vig to kill me?

The vig only kills you if we mislynch. If we lynch correctly, there will only be one townie and you at the end of the tgame, unelss the vig also kills, and kills correctly.

[Skruffs]

At this point I am also willing to lynch Dizzy, Flameaxe, or cow. Of course, I was willing to lynch them before. But Dizzy seems to be directly calling on her scum buddies for a quick lynch.

[Skruffs]

Do you think Lowell was bussing you earlier?

[Skruffs]

Meh. It's over. Yay.