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Mini #582: Meta Mafia Mini! GAME OVER!

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:10 pm

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Welcome, one and all, to my Meta Mafia Mini. The theme is what it says in the title, and it's a little experimental, but I think this game will be a useful addition to mafia theory when all is said and done. It should be a fun game. Some say I'm crazy for even trying this, but I say those people have been slaughtered by half-spider half-robot monstrosities.

Day 2 begins here.
Day 3 begins here.
Day 4 begins here.

Rules:

1. It's a game. Have fun.

2. See rule 1.

3. To have your vote or unvote count, it must look like this:
(un)vote: [name of player]
. An unvote is not necessary for a vote to count unless otherwise specified, but I would appreciate them as courtesies.

4. If [name of player] gets more than 50% of the players alive voting for him, he is immediately lynched and the game is in twilight. Once I check the thread and post a death scene, the game is in night.

5. There is no talking if the game is in night, unless your role specifies otherwise. You may talk in-thread (or out-of-thread if your role permits) while the game is still in twilight, but no votes or unvotes will count.

6. There is to be no communication out-of-thread of any kind unless yor role specifies otherwise. Even then, such communication is limited to twilight and night, never day. Codes, ciphers, and so forth are permitted only to the extent that they can be picked up on or deduced by someone reading with no outside knowledge or code-cracking tools; in practice this means basically 14-15-20 13-21-3-8 8-1-18-4-5-18 20-8-1-14 20-8-9-19. Yjod epiaf sadp nr svvrqysnar.

7. Quoting a PM from me is a capital offense. This is true whether the purported quote is accurate, erroneous, or fraudulent. The final judgment of whether your post was intended as a modquote is reserved to me alone.

8. Any requests in-thread to change one's alignment will result in (1) that alignment being changed to Serial Killer and (2) immediate modkill.

9. There is no talking once deceased. My half-spider half-robot monstrosities are good at what they do.

10. No choice means no action.

11. While I will prod as necessary,
if you go an entire day without posting and an entire night without sending in a night choice, you are subject to replacement without warning.


12. I reserve the right to set a deadline if discussion is stalling. At deadline, a supermajority (2/3) of all votes cast is needed to lynch, with a minimum of three votes cast to draw the supermajority from.

13. As moderator, I am always right. As co-mod, Awesome Pants is always right unless I contradict him. By process of elimination, all mistakes you discover have been made by you. When you discover that you have made a mistake, please point it out to me so that I can correct you.

14. Night choices may be pre-sent at any time. They will be implemented the following night unless contradicted so long as the sender is still alive at that point and has not named any dead people.

15. Unless otherwise indicated, standard Mafiascum rules apply. Have fun!
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:17 pm

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The living:


DestroyeroftheSky
EmpTyger
Johoohno
KingPin
TheSweatpantsNinja

Meta tragic fate:


Greasy Spot, role switcher (pro-town), killed Night 1
Primate, deflector (pro-town), lynched Day 1
mneme, serial rolekiller (anti-everybody), killed Night 2
mathcam, mafia (anti-town), lynched Day 2
massive I, vote doubler (pro-town), killed Night 3
The Fonz, mafia (anti-town), lynched Day 3
Mr Stoofer
Massive II, mafia (anti-town), lynched Day 4
Game over, town wins!
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:06 pm

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Deadline extended to
11:59 PM EDT Saturday, April 5
to allow more time to find a replacement for Mozsuggs, wo has not picked up his role PM. I am still missing some choices; if you haven't sent yours, get it in!
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:06 pm

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Good morning, everybody except Greasy Spot, who alas is no longer among us. Are you all bright and fresh and eager to root out the bad guys among you?

Then get voting, people! Not you, EmpTyger; you have no vote today. (You can still post and FOS to your heart's content, but your vote doesn't count toward a lynch.) Primate, you have two votes today, so if you want to unvote, please specify that you are unvoting and who you are unvoting.

Greasy Spot, roleswitcher
has died. 11 available votes means 6 to lynch.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:08 pm

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Vote count
:

Primate
: 4 (DestroyerOfTheSky, Johoohno, TheSweatpantsNinja, Mr Stoofer)
Mr Stoofer
: 3 (mneme, The Fonz, Massive)
DestroyerOfTheSky
: 1 (mathcam)
KingPin
: 1 (Primate)
mneme
: 1 (Primate)

Not voting, but can
: KingPin

6 to lynch. 2 more to lynch Primate, 3+ for anyone else.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #5) » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:14 pm

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Greasy Spot was town. All pro-town players will be in green, and all anti-town players in red, when reporting their deaths. And, because I have been asked about this, I will announce that no one's role PM included any color other than black.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #6) » Fri May 02, 2008 11:44 am

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Vote count
:

Mr Stoofer: 4 (mneme, The Fonz, Massive, Primate)
Primate: 4 (DestroyerOfTheSky, Johoohno, TheSweatpantsNinja, Mr Stoofer)
DestroyerOfTheSky: 1 (mathcam)
Johoohno: 1 (Primate)

Not voting, but can
: KingPin

Primate has not posted in 10 days. Ordinarily, I would simply seek a replacement, but he is tied for the vote lead. Accordingly I would like a
secret ballot
-- send me a PM, no takebacks -- whether you would prefer a modkill-replacing-a-lynch to end the day, or a replacement and a continuation of day. On a 7-3 supermajority or more, Primate will be modkilled and the game will go to night. (That's 10 players: 11 alive, not counting Primate, who gets to stay irrespective of balloting if he posts in thread within 48 hours of this post and whose opinion does not count if he fails to do so.) Ballots will not be revealed by me under any circumstances until the end of the game.

mneme, in response to your request, I want the alive list to be specifically in the second post so as to enable people to read through the thread without being spoiled.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #7) » Sun May 04, 2008 10:04 am

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Bump to pass the newly closed games. Also, please note the request in the vote count a few posts up.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #8) » Mon May 12, 2008 3:48 pm

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Vote count
:

Mr Stoofer: 4 (mneme, The Fonz, Massive, Primate)
Primate: 3 (DestroyerOfTheSky, Mr Stoofer, KingPin)
Johoohno: 1 (Primate)

Not voting, but can:
Johoohno, mathcam, TheSweatpantsNinja

6 to lynch; 2 more needed for Mr Stoofer, 3+ for anyone else.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #9) » Fri May 30, 2008 11:05 am

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Primate has already been prodded and I have begun looking for replacements. Votecount and deadline will be posted at the top of the coming page.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #10) » Fri May 30, 2008 11:14 am

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This post exists to push to a new page.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #11) » Fri May 30, 2008 11:16 am

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Vote count
:

Primate: 3 (DestroyerOfTheSky, Mr Stoofer, KingPin)
mneme: 2 (Johoohno, mathcam)
Mr Stoofer: 2 (The Fonz, Primate)
TheSweatpantsNinja: 1 (Massive)
Johoohno: 1 (Primate)

Not voting, but can
: mneme, TheSweatpantsNinja

Additionally,
there is now a DEADLINE
of eight days from the minute of this post (one week, plus the Sabbath I won't be online anyway). I remind you all to review the rules for a lynch at deadline.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:40 pm

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This isn't the post you're looking for.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:42 pm

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Vote count
:

Primate: 5 (DestroyerOfTheSky, Mr Stoofer, KingPin, massive, mathcam)
Mr Stoofer: 2 (The Fonz, Primate)
mneme: 1 (Johoohno)
Johoohno: 1 (Primate)
DestroyerOfTheSky: 1 (mneme)

Not voting, but can
: TheSweatpantsNinja

1 more to lynch Primate, 4+ for anyone else.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #14) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:41 pm

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And that will do it for Primate.

Final vote count
:

Primate: 5 (DestroyerOfTheSky, Mr Stoofer, KingPin, massive, mathcam, mneme)
Mr Stoofer: 2 (The Fonz, Primate)
mneme: 1 (Johoohno)
Johoohno: 1 (Primate)

Not voting, but can
: TheSweatpantsNinja

With that, Primate is lynched. He was the
deflector
, deflecting all night actions (except his own) aimed at his nightchoice to a different player of his choosing.

It is now
Night 2
. Please get your choices in by
Wednesday, June 11, 11:59 PM EDT
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Post Post #456 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:30 pm

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The nine of you gather, and immediately realize that the big communal omelet should have been made with one fewer egg. So stunned are you by the death of
mneme
the
serial rolekiller
that you hardly notice that Johoohno has photocopied his ballot. Joho, please specify which of your two votes you are unvoting at any given time.

With 10 votes eligible to be cast, 6 are required to lynch. Get to it!
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Post Post #511 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:08 pm

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Vote count:


Johoohno: 3 (TheSweatpantsNinja, mathcam, Mr Stoofer)
Mr Stoofer: 3 (The Fonz, EmpTyger, massive)
DestroyerOfTheSky: 1 (Johoohno)
The Fonz: 1 (Johoohno)
mathcam: 1 (DestroyerOfTheSky)

Not voting
: KingPin

3 more votes for Johoohno or Mr Stoofer, 5+ for anyone else.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #17) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:26 pm

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This is not a post.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #18) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:27 pm

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Vote count
:

Mr Stoofer: 3 (The Fonz, EmpTyger, massive)
Johoohno: 1 (TheSweatpantsNinja)
DestroyerOfTheSky: 1 (Johoohno)
EmppTyger: 1 (Mr Stoofer)
The Fonz: 1 (Johoohno)
mathcam: 1 (DestroyerOfTheSky)

Not voting
: KingPin, mathcam

3 more votes to lynch Mr Stoofer, 5+ for anyone else.
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Post Post #591 (isolation #19) » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:53 pm

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Bumping past closed games.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:54 am

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Vote count
:

Johoohno: 2 (TheSweatpantsNinja, massive)
Mr Stoofer: 1 (The Fonz)
EmpTyger: 1 (Mr Stoofer)
mathcam: 1 (DestroyerOfTheSky)

Not voting
: KingPin, mathcam, Johoohno, EmpTyger

4 more votes to lynch Joohohno, 5+ for anyone else.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:16 pm

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In response to a question I have been asked:

Nightchoices are not resolved by timestamp. I resolve all nightchoices at once.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:23 pm

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Fonz has been prodded.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:47 pm

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Vote count:


mathcam: 6 (DestroyerOfTheSky, TheSweatpantsNinja, EmpTyger, massive, The Fonz, Johoohno)
EmpTyger: 1 (Mr Stoofer)

With that, mathcam is lynched. He was
mafia
.

It is now
Night 3. Deadline: Thursday, July 24, 11:59 PM EDT
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Post Post #702 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:41 pm

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Yesterday Johoohno had two votes. Well, balance must be maintained, and today he has none. On the bright side, balance must be maintained, and KingPin has two votes. KingPin, please specify when changing your vote which vote you are unvoting.

It is possible that KingPin's double vote will be the last, since
massive, vote doubler
has died during the night.

Seven players live, six of whom have seven votes between them, and it is therefore 4 to lynch.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:22 pm

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Vote count:


No one has voted yet.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #26) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:10 pm

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Vote Count:


The Fonz: 1 (DestroyerOfTheSky)

Not voting, but can
: TheSweatpantsNinja, The Fonz, EmpTyger, KingPin, Stoofer

Day 3 is now DEADLINED for Tuesday, August 19, 11:59 PM EDT.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:02 pm

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THat's that.

Final vote count:

The Fonz 4 (DestroyerOfTheSky, KingPin, KingPin, EmpTyger)
EmpTyger 1 (The Fonz)
Johoohno 1 (TheSweatpantsNinja)

Not voting, but can:
Mr Stoofer

Gathering enough for a lynch at the last moment, you discover that The Fonz was
mafia
.

Deadline for night 4 will be a shade longish for a few reasons:
Monday, August 25, 11:59 PM EDT
. First page will be edited soon, but not tonight.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:19 pm

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Computer giving me trouble so nothing fancy.

No deaths. Six alive, but Mr Stoofer and Johoohno cannot vote, so four active votes, three to lynch.
There will be no further deadline lynches.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #29) » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:48 pm

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Bumping past closed threads.
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Post Post #855 (isolation #30) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:50 pm

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Massive replaces Mr Stoofer, effective immediately. Thank you, Massive.


Vote vount to follow shortly.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:17 pm

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Vote count:


Massive 2 (DestroyeroftheSky, EmpTyger)

Not voting, but can
: KingPin, TheSweatpantsNinja

Massive is at L-1. All others are at L-3.
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Post Post #884 (isolation #32) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:27 am

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You don't get a choice tonight, KingPin, because
Massive has been lynched. He was
mafia
.
Game over, town wins!


Roles and recap to follow Saturday night. I want to thank Awesome Pants for co-modding, especially in his attentiveness to vote counts early -- there was a whole string of times I thought, "The game should be close to the top of a new page, I should put together a vote count," only to find that, one, the new page had started, and two, it already had one.
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Post Post #893 (isolation #33) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:27 am

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First, I want to thank all my players, who all did an excellent job of participating and keeping the game flowing even with the mod doing a subpar job. Especially I want to thank Massive for replacing; he came into a very difficult spot, and his claim fit the theme so perfectly I thought he had a chance of saving the scum at least for a day.

The theme of the game was "all actions act on actions." We've had all-cop games, all-doc games, all-vig games, and I wanted to explore games where all roles affect roles the way roleblockers do. All-actual-blockers is not really a feasible setup, so I put in other roles of the same family of effects. I cheated a little to count votes as an action in the day, mostly to fill out the count of 12 players. I did not think of the potential for confirmability when I did that, which may have been my first mistake.

The master roles list:


You are a
roleblocker
. Each night you send in one player's name to prevent that player's night action from succeeding (unless they would have received information from a successful action). You may not target yourself. You win with the town.
This role went to TheSweatpantsNinja.


You are a
role doubler
. Each night you send in one player's name to give that player a second night action. You may not target yourself. You win with the town.
This role went to EmpTyger.


You are a
redirector
. Each night you send in two names: one whose night choice to redirect, and one to whom you want that night choice redirected. If you choose, for example, "redirect the silent speaker to Awesome Pants," then the silent speaker performs his night action on Awesome Pants rather than whosever name he sent in. Awesome Pants performs his night action, if any, as normal. You may redirect others to yourself, but not yourself to others. You win with the town.
This role went to DestroyeroftheSky.


You are a
deflector
. Each night you send in two names: one from whom you want role actions to be deflected, and one to whom you want those actions to be deflected to. If you choose, for example, "deflect the silent speaker to Awesome Pants," then anyone who chose the silent speaker for his or her night action performs that action on Awesome Pants. Awesome Pants and the silent speaker perform their night actions, if any, as normal. You may deflect actions from others to yourself, but not from yourself to others. You win with the town.
This role went to Primate.


You are a
vote blocker
. Each night you send in one name to have that player have no vote for the duration of the next day. You win with the town.
This role went to KingPin


You are a
vote doubler
. Each night you send in one name to have that player be given an extra vote for the duration of the next day. You may not target yourself. You win with the town.
This role went to massive I.


You are a
role switcher
. Each night you send in two names -- one person to be roleswitched, and the other to switch with him or her -- to have each perform the other's role action, if any, on his chosen target. (This is symmetric with respect to them, but I need to know which one is your primary target.) You win with the town.
This role went to Greasy Spot.


You are a
target switcher
. Each night you send in two names -- one to have his target switched out, and the other to switch with him or her -- to have each perform his role action, if any, on the other's chosen target. (This is symmetric with respect to them, but I need to know which one is your primary target.) You may switch your own target with someone else's, with yourself as the primary target, but you may not switch another person's target with yours. You win with the town.
This role went to mozsuggs, who was replaced by johoohno before the game started.


You are a
serial rolekiller
. Each night you send in one name to cause that player to lose his or her role permanently. They do not die; instead, they continue play as vanilla versions of whatever their alignment was. On death they will be revealed as vanilla townie (or mafia). If the player is already vanilla, this has no effect. You may not target yourself. You win when you are the only living player with a non-vanilla role.
This role went to mneme.


You, along with [name] and [name], are the
mafia
. Each night you send in the name of the player making that night's kill, and the role -- not the playername -- you want removed from the game. Each of you has a single-shot kill of this type. By way of example, you would say, "Kill the moderator," not "kill the silent speaker," and then the mod would be affected by your choice whoever he might be. (You may not actually try to kill the mod.) The role may be identified by either name ("doctor") or effect ("kill stopper"), but if I have never heard of a role called the University President, you will not get credit no matter how self-evident it is on Magic: the Gathering forums that that is a role that cures millers. (There is no such role in the game, and I am not familiar with any University President role.) Once all living mafiosi have used up their single shots, you have two group kills of the ordinary variety (name of player you want killed and name of mafia member making the kill), but you must have no single shots remaining for these to come into play. You may not target yourselves or each other.

If you target a role which is not in the game, I will inform you that there is no such role; day will break without a kill from your group; and the player who attempted the kill retains his or her shot for future use. There is no standard doc or cop in this game (of any sanity).

You win when you are longer outnumbered by players not in your group.

Conflicting orders are resolved in the order [turned out to be The Fonz, Mr Stoofer, Mathcam].
This role went to The Fonz, Mr Stoofer, and mathcam.


All PMs also included the following paragraphs:

As a special request, please send in a secondary name with each nightchoice. This may not have any effect -- if no game mechanics are caused to affect you, it will not -- and if it does have an effect, that effect may or may not be a reduplication of your role action; but it will help with my bookkeeping to have a secondary choice every night. Do not name yourself for this.

Please confirm receipt of this role via PM. [end pm]

The second choice would have been what was honored if the player was role-doubled, and if the player was roleswitched to a role that affected two names, the first and second choice would have served that purpose. I intended for the mafiosi to be able to each send in a choice, and if one got doubled those choices might result in an extra kill, but that never happened and in retrospect I think I may have been too unclear. I don't think it would have had a significant effect anyway, as the night choices fell.

My thinking with the role- and target-switchers was this:

Target-switcher (T) switches T and X; X targeted Y; Y targeted Z. T's primary target is T, not X even though X is part of his first choice. So T changes X's primary target from X's named Y to T's named T, and T changes T's named target of T to X's named target of Y.
We now have that T acts on Y and X. X has 'named T' and Y has named Z. T switches these now: Y acts on T instead of on Z, and X acts on Z instead of on T (or Y).
This sequence is basically borrowed whole from Seuss II, when I actually had this role.
Note that T cannot switch X and T, because then the target-switcher himself is never canceled out and an infinite loop forms.

With the role-switcher, this was not a concern, so I did not put in a like restriction on him:
Role swapper (R) targets R and Z. Z targeted Y (backup 'choice' of X). Y targeted W. X targeted V. R performs Z's action on R (failing if Z's action cannot execute on self), and Z performs R's action on Y -- he swaps Y's role with X's: Y executes X's role on W, and X executes Y's regular night action on V. (X, because X was Z's second name.) The difference is that the role-switcher targets the role, rather than targeting the target.
Last edited by the silent speaker on Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I think it's pretty clear that TSS's awesomeness did alter the roles each of us recieved, and thus he's obviously pro-town. -- Save The Dragons
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Post Post #894 (isolation #34) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:59 am

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Night choices:

Night 1:

Mr Stoofer was blocked by Sweatpants, doubled by EmpTyger and had his role switched with Primate's by Greasy. His choices were nonallied player killer (not in game) and jailkeeper (not in game), so he deflected all actions against one nonexistent role to Fonz (which was blocked) and all actions against another nonexistent role to mneme (this "went through").

Meanwhile, Primate (now the killer) had his target switched with Kingpin's and was redirected to Greasy Spot. KingPin's choice of nobody to voteblock is replaced by Primate's target of EmpTyger, and Primate's choice of Emp to roleswitch-I-mean-kill was replaced by KingPin's choice of nobody and redirected to Greasy.

The only other choice of consequence was massive's choice to double Primate's vote. In fact, except for Primate, everybody chose Stoofer, Primate, or nobody. Mneme chose nobody. Neither mafioso not sending a sniper shot sent in a backup, but that didn't signify this time around.

Greasy dies. Primate has two votes. EmpTyger has none.

Night 2:

Target switcher Joho switched Sweatpants's and massive's targets. Massive had sent in KingPin to votedouble and Sweatpants had sent in Joho to block. Instead, Joho gets two votes and KingPin gets blocked. (Joho's switch isn't blocked because no blocker can block an action acting on self.) KingPin therefore fails to voteblock Stoofer.

Effects: Joho gets two votes; Stoofer gets one vote as per normal.

Redirector DOTS sent mathcam's "none" to mneme. Mneme dies, but first he takes away mathcam's shot, leaving mathcam vanilla scum. (Mathcam can't be doubled into a free shot.) Doubler Emp boosted DOtS, but DOTS opted to choose nobody for his second round. That could have caused some chaos.

This was my next big mistake, and probably my biggest. Mathcam was lower ranked than Stoofer, so his choice of "none, redirected to mneme" should have been pre-empted. Stoofer had chosen "the voteswitcher (whoever is responsible for moving votes from one player to another)"; he was properly to be PMed that there was no such role, and mneme was to still be alive. Instead I posted mneme's death; in fact, I initially did both before catching myself. It was too late to bring mneme back, but my PM to Stoofer was still in the outbox, so I deleted it from there. I retconned that mathcam had gotten a one-time-only 'field promotion', but I can only hope that, if Mr Stoofer deduced from an e-mail alert for a nonexistent PM that there was no voteswitcher, he did not allow this to influence the scum gameplay. (I saw no sign of any such, just to be clear.) I apologize to mneme, who was unfairly punished by the whole situation, but I feel that my decision was the only way to salvage a bad blunder entirely my own fault.

Night 3:

Massive, vote doubler, picked Kingpin primary and Sweatpants secondary.
kingPin, vote blocker, picked Stoofer primary and Fonz secondary.
DOTS redirected Stoofer to act on Fonz and secondarily directed Fonz to Stroofer.
EmpTyger doubled TSN primary and DOTS secondary.
Stoofer sent in for the mafia: Fonz to kill first the votedoubler and second the redirector. These are allowable choices, pending priority sorting. It would be Fonz acting.
Fonz sent in for the mafia: Stoofer to kill DOTS. This choice is a nullity and will be treated as no submission. Therefore Fonz is acting for the mafia per Stoofer's submission and Stoofer is idle tonight. Stoofer was redirected from "none" to "Fonz," but Fonz's actions have priority and I don't think scum should be able to self-target anyway.
Sweatpants blocked Stoofer primary and Johoohno secondary.
Johoohno switched the targets of Sweatpants primary with KingPin and Johoohno secondary with EmpTyger.

Working through it...
Emp doubled TSN and was not blocked. Johno's target of self with Emp was a secondary choice and does not come into play. TSN's actions both come true. Stoofer's action is blocked, but Stoofer wasn't doing anything anyway. Johnoohno would be blocked, but he targeted Sweatpants, and blockers can't block actions aimed at themselves. Sweatpants' second action is diverted to Kingpin's target: Stoofer. The idle Stoofer is blocked twice. KingPin, instead of voteblocking Stoofer, voteblocks Johoohno.

Result of blocks: Stoofer is actionblocked, but he was idle, and Johoohno is voteblocked.
Result of kills: Fonz was not blocked or doubled, and his underling sent in an uncontested choice of Fonz kills votedoubler, which is massive. Fonz uses his shot.
Other results: Kingpin gets two votes.

Looking back at it, probably I should have had Sweatpants diverted on both his choices, which would have led to an extra player being voteblocked. But that at least didn't affect the result of the game, and it might even have been a defensible course of action as an intentional choice; I get a headache every time I look at that night. Call it Mistake #3.

I had computer issues Night 4 and wasn't able to create a log of the choices and how they worked through. However, Emp doubled KingPin, Kingpin voteblocked I Mr Stoofer and II Johoohno, Mr Stoofer did not send in a night choice, and the three that remained ended up canceling each other out.
DOTS: Primary choice: Redirect Johoohno to Mr Stoofer
(Secondary choice: Redirect EmpTyger to TheSweatpantsNinja)
TSN: Block Stoofer (Johoohno second)
Joho: Switch targets of DotS and TSN (No back-up alternatives, intentional choice)
I think it's pretty clear that TSS's awesomeness did alter the roles each of us recieved, and thus he's obviously pro-town. -- Save The Dragons
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Post Post #895 (isolation #35) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:08 am

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A final note on mneme's role. It was a hard one to win with, no question, but serial killers are often like that. Mneme had a couple of potential advantages to help him:
1. The town would not be notified that people were losing their roles. Only the players themselves would know that. It could be some time before the town worked out what was going on.
2. His role might be claimable as pro-town, since it wasn't exactly like a typical serial killer. (Even then, SKs often claim vig.)
Also, unlike most serial killers, mneme would win even though his victims were still alive; in that respect he was almost like a cult leader whose 'recruits' don't win with him.
The town's best-case scenario was game over in 3 days; the mafia's was the same; mneme's was 4 days.
I think it's pretty clear that TSS's awesomeness did alter the roles each of us recieved, and thus he's obviously pro-town. -- Save The Dragons
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Post Post #896 (isolation #36) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:08 pm

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Aaand one last bump past closed threads.
I think it's pretty clear that TSS's awesomeness did alter the roles each of us recieved, and thus he's obviously pro-town. -- Save The Dragons

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