Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

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Join: Orlais

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And hi! There are a lot more people I know in this list than I initially thought, nice

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I wasn't lurking unless you can do that from a bed without looking at the thread.

I chose Orlais because I wanna use the PT for extra scumhunting (so day/night-chat) and because I thought Kingmaker would help me form reads but I just realized that I have no idea how it is going to work.

Shiro town, Dunn weaktown so far, Fbbb feels town to as well as Titus-hydra and probably some other people too but I just read up on 20 pages so I don't remember anymore.

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I wasn't lurking unless you can do that from a bed without looking at the thread.

I chose Orlais because I wanna use the PT for extra scumhunting (so day/night-chat) and because I thought Kingmaker would help me form reads but I just realized that I have no idea how it is going to work.

Shiro town, Dunn weaktown so far, Fbbb feels town to as well as Titus-hydra and probably some other people too but I just read up on 20 pages so I don't remember anymore.

What's the Dunn read based on?

On us being scum together very recently.

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Why is Vedith scum? I mean, I don't have a read on him yet because he barely posted and activity is NAI?

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Because I didn't think things through and figured we'd know who the kingmaker is and know who he;d pick for warden. That's nice info. I'll see how things play out, there's still the chat to use.

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I'd like to continue this chat in the pt.

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VOTE: iraonavp

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RVS.

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I agree he's town though.

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No I do not have scumreads yet. I have no read on most of you, I am developing some townreads, I always get townreads fairly easy day 1 as opposed to scumreads. I started with RVS so that's how this Day started with RVS.

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RVS.

So you don't think the parts where we picked nations were useful or alignment indicative?

Nope.

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Ooh will I be the first wagon of the day? Cool. More votes on me please.

I said I was already developing townreads. I don't feel comfortable outing all of those very soon because I know my alignment and I don't want my stances being copied. So I'm going to see how this day develops, and if you just read my posts my reads will become clear sooner or later. That's how I work. I don't do lists. If you don;t like it, lynch me.

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Ahw.

I'm btw not that worried about being copied, more about being influenced too much. And giving too much away will just give scum more opportunities to play me. Which plenty of you have seen me fall for in the past.

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I'm atm not too sure about yellowbaron and I think Biebierboys are town. I could do a 100 percent lynch.

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100 percent isn't in the group of players I'm developing townreads on currently and I would rather lynch him than ABR currently. I have no decent read on ABR either but my gut tells me it's better to keep him around over 100 percent.

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Dunn might be scum.

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@ masq, if you won't share your town reads in general, can you at least tell us how you feel about Dunnstral and ABR?

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100 percent isn't in the group of players I'm developing townreads on currently and I would rather lynch him than ABR currently. I have no decent read on ABR either but my gut tells me it's better to keep him around over 100 percent.

Dunn might be scum.

ABR isn't making a lot of sense to me, but I think he has some kind of point and I'm just waiting and seeing where he is going with his thing.

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Actually, based on the pt I think he might be town.

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That's about ABR btw^

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He's less cryptic there, it's mostly a gutfeeling and I wouldn't know how to describe it.

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Shit I'm running late :/

VOTE: Dunnstral wagon time.

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Who do I vote? I believe there are 15 new pages since I left. Anyone that expects me to read those is crazy. Fucking slow down.

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vote Vedith, I have a day guilty.

Tell me more. Link it if you have to, I was away for a few hours and I don't feel like reading rn.

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Who can't be warden?

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Fine whatever don't tell me about done rolling my dooby and then I'll be gone again. Prolly for at least 12 hours.

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Oh stfu wardens get chosen during daytime if the nation is smart.

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We are lynching Vedith today senor Masquerade.

Señorita
And why?

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Sigh I guess I'll go and read up.. Damn curiosity, it's gonna kill me one day.

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Shit I'm running late :/

[ v]Dunnstral[/v] wagon time.

Why Dunn over me?

I was scum with Dunn recently, never been scum with either of your 2 heads. If I remember correctly.

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I'm reading (sigh!) but answer me if this wasn't answered yet: did anyone assume leader position in Teventer?

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Somebody who is 10+ pages behind the latest post due to your bullshit spam is reading my post right now and praising me for letting you know this is my last post engaging you whatsoever. Stop artificially inflating the post count to demotivate the town.

+1

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Why am I scum?

Because joining a nation and then vanishing for 20 pages is pretty fishy

I did that too.
I happened to get my rolepm right before bedtime.
FUCKING LEARN TO DEAL WITH TIMEZONES
If FU is who I think it is, she is in a euro timezone as well..

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I gave up on reading.

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I'm reading (sigh!) but answer me if this wasn't answered yet: did anyone assume leader position in Teventer?

No, it was specifically stated by one of them that there is no leader.

Idc I want to hear from the others.

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Shit I'm running late :/

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Why Dunn over me?

I was scum with Dunn recently, never been scum with either of your 2 heads. If I remember correctly.

Really? Your input here might be useful to everyone. Have you played with town-Dunn too? How is this more like his scum play than his town play?

I have but he replaced into that game so it's not reliable intel.

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In that game I had a solid townread on a scum so ye..

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Maybe later.

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So get yourself NK'ed then.

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I barely read, do you seriously think anything has changed since the last time I posted reads? I'll give reads when I feel like giving them, and usually that;s when something changes. I just got home from drinking and I'm in no mood to read up on anything. If there really is a case on Vedith one of you would have gladly given it to me by now. Town does not pass up the chance to lynch scum.

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Pere is town btw.

Dunn, why

ESPECIALLY

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TWO IN A ROW

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Pere is town btw.

Dunn, why

ESPECIALLY

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Based on?

Why are you voting Dunn? You claimed to have rolled scum with him before...but that such arguments are unreliable. That leaves me scratching my head.

@Luna, They changed that rule because of that game.

Lol no.
I was scum with him. The TOWN game he replaced into so that intel is unreliable. He could be like this early game as town and pick up later, who knows. I want a wagon going, we are already 40-fucking-plus pages in and not seen a decent wagon. I mean, if you wanna count pregame for reads it counts as pages in the game.

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At least to L-2. With the amount of players I might be ok with L-3 as well.

Yellow: Village Idiot.

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I dunno what to think about Vedith yet, don't much like his reaction to him being pushed (ye it's almost 4am, I'm tipsy, but I still read up because fuck it) I'm not really getting the carelessness I usually feel from him.
Vedith, your timezone is near mine, talk to me when you get up?

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Meh

VOTE: Motoko and Scully

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I think I have a weak townread on Radical.

Oh I blew up something I see.
Gut.

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My gut is usually correct though.

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Why am I scum?

Because joining a nation and then vanishing for 20 pages is pretty fishy

I did that too.
I happened to get my rolepm right before bedtime.
FUCKING LEARN TO DEAL WITH TIMEZONES
If FU is who I think it is, she is in a euro timezone as well..

Well
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I will.have you know, that I am also European, and you had q number of posts greater than zero unlike FU

You seriously just used my scum excuse to Wisdom for not posting much in that game I was scum. You were there, you scumread me.

Ye. Get back to me when I keep using this excuse for not posting all throughout the game.

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This all masquerade btw has nothing to do with timezones. Not only it been more than a day but being at a similar timezone if he is indeed European, there has been plenty of time that wasn't sleeping or working times.

Yeah I wasn't defending FU when I made my post there. And if I'm correct about who it is it's probably not going to get any better and we might as well lynch her (at some point, not today, I hate PLs day 1). She posted in PT btw a few times. Not really enough to get a read on her.

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I mean I'm pretty sure "It" is an alt

Unless I'm actually wrong

The way she posted in PT makes me 100% sure she is an alt.

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So, once again, I'll like to point out, the reason I am scum to Titus is because I made 3 phone posts in the space of 3PM and 3AM on a Saturday evening. This is the case that she has on me.

Spoiler: Titus + hebichan

Also, I am a Tracker. I'm the mighty Assassin Rogue

/FLEX

You're just cherrypicking the worst argument to defend yourself.

My role is assassin rogue and a similar ability, so while you are probably telling the truth you are a scum-aligned tracker with a flavor fake claim... Tracker can be scum-aligned or town-aligned.

I doubt whether scum got fakeclaims because mods announced the game isn't broken by flavour. If you really want to cc, you need to be a little more specific.

@Vedith: Is that your warden power or are you always a tracker? I'm not sure if this is a good question and I'm not sure if you should answer it (well, you should if you are scum ofc) but I'm thinking because we can't all be warden at the same time it might be possible to have similar powers in there?

I'll have a closer look at both Vedith and ira.

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She made a couple posts yesterday. She wants to lynch Dunn and she asked some questions about the kingmaker stuff and doesn't want to be warden yet.

I think wat Pere posted in the nation picking phase seemed p towny but it's not enough to townread him, he has to come in and take a stance or something.

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@Vedith: No thread opened when the picking phase was done and nations were announced, which was yesterday.
Why are you voting FU?

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(that was a close one)

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Well, if Feelmi is posting in PT, then why not here?
Considering Titus is voting me for posting else where on the site, if this is not picked up on by Titus, I question why.

This JUST came up now, you might want to give someone a chance to respond to it before fos'ing them.

VOTE: Vedith

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I posted FU has posted in pt an hour and a half ago. M&S haven';t even been here since then and you are already fos'ing them for not scumreading FU :/

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I'm not lying and you are caught scum.
Get lynched.

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Yeah exactly. That's why you are scum.

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I specifically said FOR TODAY. We let Titus and Luna do their thing, and then we see what becomes of it.

Why won't you let Orlais do their (our) thing too?

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I specifically said FOR TODAY. We let Titus and Luna do their thing, and then we see what becomes of it.

Why won't you let Orlais do their (our) thing too?

Unless I missed it, no one's expressed having a thing to do for Orlais.

So you been missing like all of ABR's posts then?

@100 percent: you and Dunn both weren't in my townpool, I wanted a wagon going so I voted Dunn. I thought this was clear already?

most likely yes but why did you feel the need to say this?

Because he came up in discussion and I was giving my read on him? Do you do context?

I thought I liked Cakes here too but I'm getting conflicted and the sucky thing is it kinda involves ongoing :/ anyway, going to look into some stuff but considering I was already scumleaning baron myself he doesn't have priority.

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1: can we please stop with the useless pagetop steals? Please don't post to post, post to say something.
2: instead of using emoticons, how about we use words?

Fucking 50 pages in on day 1..

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1: can we please stop with the useless pagetop steals? Please don't post to post, post to say something.
2: instead of using emoticons, how about we use words?

Fucking 50 pages in on day 1..

But but but but

Fluffing is like my thing ;~;

Btw masq I think your nation has two Scum, thoughts? How are things in the PT?

P.edit

Yea foxybee, you pm your vote.

Yeah I'm just scared, at some point I'm going to have to reread stuff and I'm already dreading having to sift through all the fluff. Where I used to play ww fluffposting was a scumtell, but I know you do it as town. It's just getting a little out of hand where there are now several players responding with nothing but an emoticon. Several explanations can be put on an emoticon, I want to be 100% sure what someone means so they can't backtrack.
(It's btw also my first large onsite, and I'm not counting the other one I'm currently in because I replaced into that one shortly before this one started, this is not an excuse or whatever, just some background information)

Are they FU and baron? Because those reads are boring and old. Push them if you really believe it. What is your opinion on Vedith? Do you agree with me he was fos'ing prematurely or was I overreacting?


I'm a mage. The setup is supposed to be not broken by flavour, so we should be able to safely claim flavour at least?

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Shiro what's your read on Vedith?

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To clarify, AtE stands for "appeal to emotion". While rb enjoys passionate language, he's hardly made an emotional appeal to Cakez or town in general. Jumping in to fan the flames saying "ya, ya, AtE, must be scum" is pretty scummy in itself.

Does this look like scum encouraging TvT to anyone else?

~boring

What did you mean with the thing I just bolded?

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@yellow: I'm not sure on Cakes yet but I have ongoing reasons for thinking Bieberboys are town. So my answer is no.

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@yellow: I'm not sure on Cakes yet but I have ongoing reasons for thinking Bieberboys are town. So my answer is no.

Can you elaborate why they're town? If not here, then in the nation thread?

I am telling you in that very quote that I cannot elaborate due to ongoing reasons. To clarify: that means I have reasoning based on an ongoing game we are not allowed to talk about.

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VOTE: cakes

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I'm not going to keep responding to your garbage

This is scum Cakes 100%

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M&S/Titus, it's p obvious your nation has some sort of voting block going on and I believe it's only your nation voting me currently so *shrug*

Cakes, you were scum in sharing is caring. I was screaming you were scum but nobody believed me and then you killed me yet stayed alive all the way to lylo.

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I never respond to naked votes on me, and I wasn't planning on changing that. Why do you think I'm trying to discredit Tevinter? Haven't you been clear you all want to work as some sort of masonry? It only fits that you vote together in that case imo..
Cakes is still a good wagon.

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If you were town you would be talking about your reads, think critically, and not be defensive.

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Well the thing is, you

want

to act like a masonry, but in a real masonry everyone is conftown, here that is not the case. So while you may

act

like a masonry, you are not a masonry.

I already told you I don't do readslists.

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And btw, if you look at the votes, before Cakes voted me it actually was only our nation voting me so how is a fact discrediting?

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And btw, if you look at the votes, before Cakes voted me it actually was only your nation voting me so how is a fact discrediting?

ebworp

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I'd most want to lynch Cakes, after that comes Dunn, next is FU and would be a PL and I'd rather not do that day 1, but would rather flip FU than have a no-lynch.

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I'm scumreading Dunn so I actually like FU's vote there. Her reasoning makes sense. It's by far not enough to townread her, but rn I don't see the need to lynch her.
Why is Dunn town?

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My comments on 100 percent and ABR at the time were because they were topic of discussion at the time and I gave my opinion. That's what I'm being asked to do?
I hopped on Dunnstral because that was a wagon that was going that I wanted to explore. Wagons are good, they give info, better to run someone up to L-1 early and have plenty of time to discuss than wait till the last hours of a phase. I thought Dunnstral was scum (still do) if I didn't maybe I would have hopped on Rat at the time, sheep ABR but I'm just not on the same page as him regarding that read. Rat is null and could still go either way for me.
Still think shaddowez is town.

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FU needs to actually post, so I've got a lurkerscum read there

Why lurker

scum

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Guys can we just flip me to show how wrong Tevinter is today?

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VOTE: Luna

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Guys can we just flip me to show how wrong Tevinter is today?

>wants him to flip

VOTE: Luna

>votes luna

uuuhhhh.... ????

Fine.

pv]masq[/v]

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VOTE: masq

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Actually, I'm a lyncher and my lynchee is me. Vote me so I win!

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Obviously that is bullcrap, but so is the wagon on me.

VOTE: Luna

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Anywho, I refuted the shit M&S is talking about me and I'm no longer going to talk to them about me because they are plain wrong and not taking my responses into consideration. Look at how they keep repeating everything from when they first started pushing me, not thinking about what I've been saying since. Classic signs of irrational tunnel.

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And I am not going to change my playstyle just because some people here cannot handle my playstyle. Titus, your sister manipulated me into changing my mind ON HER ENTIRE SCUMTEAM you know damn well why I'm playing like I'm playing now. I'm ezsily manipulated, I will not elaborate novella-style.

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No Shiro, I'm scumreading Dunn so I won't be voting a nullread that is voting my scumread. Unless it's to prevent nolynch and we're not there yet.

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I think Shiro might be scum.. As town she doesn't push her scumreads the way she is doing now..

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I think Shiro might be scum.. As town she doesn't push her scumreads the way she is doing now..

Well you would be wrong.

I dunno yet, you're not someone I wish to pursue today but I am keeping you in the back of my head. Just realized the time you were scum you kept sheeping wisdom while halfheartedly trying to push for my lynch, and the sheeping isn't present here but there's something else I'm looking for which I'm obviously not going to explain until it happens.

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I don't trust you.

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Luna is scum because she's not scumhunting. She put down a lot of townreads but it's safe. It's not hard as scum to put people down as town early on and then change your mind about them later on. She jumps on most wagons: 952 Vedith, 1332 FU, 1423 me, these are all her votes and it's very obvious how she;s sheeping others instead of coming up with her own ideas.

I am developing some townreads, I always get townreads fairly easy day 1 as opposed to scumreads.

Oh that's cool, looks like we have a similar playstyle ^_^

This is not something you say to someone you don't know the alignment of and are also not townreading, you were buddying me here.

Lynch her.

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That reminds me..

Frozen/Fire

I will be v/la over the weekend and more v than la because I'm going camping.

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M&S then why is PV not in your townblock?

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Why would scum have a lie detector?

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How can Pere do a day action anyway?
And Luna's plan sucks because her nation knows when she's warden and has active power?

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No you messed up by claiming in main, Luna.

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@YB, On the big if that I'm wrong, town needs to work together. So you need to can the attitude that I'm someone who is always wrong and actually think you have the possibility of being wrong. I am actually quite good at this game if people

aren't lying and are honest with each other.

.... Do you even see the irony in this yourself?

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Titus, YB, ABR and Luna are probs all town lol.

Ye it's too funny to contain scum.

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And then it turned really sad I didn't read most of last page and this page anymore can you guys just stop it and take a step back and cool down?

VOTE: Radical

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I cannot bring myself to read the last pages with all the arguing.

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I skimmed most of it when I tried to read it. It's a lot of arguing between M&S and rb and I wish I could do a reverse iso where I could filter them out and only read the responses by the other players.

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Everyone can just send in 2 actions instead of one and just wait and see?

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Reminder that I will be gone for the next 2 days and 1 night and won't be able to post much (and probably won't read much either if it keeps being a lot because it's just hard to do on a small phone screen but I'll try)

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I wanted to do this when I came back from castlefest but seeing as we have a guilty I guess thread will be locked when I get back home.

I had issues with Shiro's push on FU. She kept calling all the other wagons that popped up counterwagons to the wagon on FU. Oh bah I have issues typing (it's the middle of the night, couldn't sleep because too excited) I suggested in our pt that she should be checked (I was planning on pushing her but maybe a warden could investigate her or it would get me killed or something) and I can't think so here's what I wrote.

It's not a strong feeling that's why I want her to be checked out. She can really go both ways for me, she was pushing that lynch like I seen her do as scum but that time she also buddied a townread p hard from Day 1 and that's not happening here as far as I can tell.
It's funny because when Shiro and I (shiro town me scum) wanted Ircher lynched in dota I called another wagon that popped up (was on town too, was hiplop) an obvious counterwagon to ircher. Shiro is doing the same thing here, calling all the wagons counterwagons to FU, so all the *counter*wagons are town then?

Link to dota: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67083 Links to all the pt's are in OP.

VOTE: ABR

Please either convince M&S that I'm not scum or lynch me next (or someone vig me please)

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Mods

: I'm sorry but please replace me. This seemed like a really cool game but the clique-stuff is not working for me so I need to get out of here while I still have some sanity left.

Sorry to hear

I'm going to contact the queued replacements. ~FA