Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[Luna Fox]

Well randomly but still secret, or is it announced in your chat who is kingmaker?

[Albert B. Rampage]

3 scum in 5 players inside Imperium means that scum warden gets chosen every time, period. There's nothing to refute this statement.

[Vedith]

If they have 2 scum, they can vote each other and have a good chance at it.

So wouldn't this be obvious if they keep voting each other?

[Radical Rat]

I think, for today at least, we should lynch outside of Tevinter.

Luna and Titus both have plans for sorting their nation, and seem reasonably confident they'll get a Masonry out of it.
That's worth letting them do, imo.

OK guys I found scum now. Notice how I didn't call anyone else I voted scum. I waited until I had a serious read.

Rat is scum. I guarantee it. Everybody sheep me.

What nation benefits scum the most? The one with a hidden vote for warden? The one with daychat so they can spy on and control townies? Tevinter is the most hospitable environment for more than one scum to join.

Rat doesn't want you to vote there for nebulous reasons he implies he doesn't understand himself. Tevinter has time and time again stood up for each other and defended their own members. How are they supposed to become a masonry if they deflect every single wagon on one of their members like Luna and Monole has done when we voted Dun? That vedith counterwagon was fast, and organized.

No, Tevinter had likely 2-3 scum in it and Rat is the one outside of it.

VOTE: Rat

I disagree. It makes more sense for scum to spread out so they can have eyes on ALL of the chats.
And even if I were the sole outlying scum... Why would I have picked the nation with NO secret communication? Orlais and Tevinter were full when I joined, but Antiva was still open.

Instead, I picked Ferelden because I wanted to be part of the nation with the most transparency. We can't cook up schemes, or lie about our Warden.

[Luna Fox]

I mean, by your logic i could argue there's 2 scum in Orlais coz if one becomes kingmaker they can chose the other as Warden.
Meanwhile any kind of movement like this would be visible in our nation.
And aniva's even chosen privately.

[Luna Fox]

3 scum in 5 players inside Imperium means that scum warden gets chosen every time, period. There's nothing to refute this statement.

Btw warden cant self vote.

[Radical Rat]

No, Tevinter had likely 2-3 scum in it and Rat is the one outside of it.

How can you say that a hood is likely to have 2-3 scum in it?

If they have 3 scum,

they can guarantee a scum warden every night via a secret ballot

. If they have 2 scum, they can vote each other and have a good chance at it. That plus daychat means that if there's any hood that has more than one scum, it's them.

But you need not subscribe to that theory to see that Rat is scum.

Rat says that we should "let Imperium purify themselves and become a masonry" yet by all indications they are NOT going to ever vote for one of their members. He has slipped and revealed his agenda by not following the game closely enough. He says we shouldn't vote for Imperium. Again, this makes no sense from a townie perspective, it's a direct contradiction. He wants a masonry in Imperium but he also doesn't want to vote there. It's impossible. He's scum.

I specifically said FOR TODAY. We let Titus and Luna do their thing, and then we see what becomes of it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If they have 2 scum, they can vote each other and have a good chance at it.

So wouldn't this be obvious if they keep voting each other?

How long would it take 2 members to realize they are never chosen? It would take a long time. There's at least 2 scum in Imperium and 1 scum in Orlais.

Rat is scum for stumbling in a catch-22 that only makes sense if he's scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I easily found scum again.

My work here is done guys.

I'll check in with you later.

[Vedith]

Also I'm going to properly look into SirCakez when I'm fully awake.
As it stands, from a glance at his ISO, he's just standing in the background 80% of the time flinging shit shouting "fight!".
As I said, I need to read properly tomorrow, but I don't see anything from him to back up anything that he says. He looks like he's trying too hard to blend in.

That being said, I really can't stay up. If you guys need me, say my name 3 times. :giggles:

[Motoko and Scully]

[Luna Fox]

I think ABR has the nations confused.

[Motoko and Scully]

you can tell if you are never voted in our nation, cause we have to discuss why we are voting a certain way in the chat.;

[yellowbaron]

Well randomly but still secret, or is it announced in your chat who is kingmaker?

No but we've agreed Kingmaker outing who they are makes the most sense.

[yellowbaron]

Also ABR I'm pretty sure is town based on hood chat and this is a rare case where I think it shouldn't be made public majority of what he's saying rn. I don't necessarily agree with his conclusions but I think they're town-motivated.

I agree w/ him that Orlais has at least 1 scum too. Not sure about Tevinter numbers. He seems to think Dunn is buddying me, I don't agree tbh.

~rb

[Frizzy Cola]

My gut is usually correct though.

BROTHER

LET ME TELL YOU RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, THAT THIS IS NOW HOW GUTS WORK

This is not something you "KNOW" is correct, its something that you "FEEL" is correct.

Saying that "My gut is usually right" makes you wrong

You do not have that power

[Frizzy Cola]

I POSSES THE STRONGEST GUT THERE IS

ITS CALLED A WOMAN'S INTUITION

NOW GET THE FUCK OUT

[Albert B. Rampage]

masq is not your brother, she is female, and her intuition is stronger than urs

[SirCakez]

Also I'm going to properly look into SirCakez when I'm fully awake.
As it stands, from a glance at his ISO, he's just standing in the background 80% of the time flinging shit shouting "fight!".
As I said, I need to read properly tomorrow, but I don't see anything from him to back up anything that he says. He looks like he's trying too hard to blend in.

That being said, I really can't stay up. If you guys need me, say my name 3 times. :giggles:

lol at this mud flinging

Isn't Orlais the nation with anonymous voting?

[Frizzy Cola]

masq is not your brother

EVERYONE IS A BROTHER WHEN YOU FINALLY HAVE SOME SORT OF BEEF WITH THEM

[Frizzy Cola]

And by the gods I will channel all of the gangster movies I've seen my lifetime if it means "dishing out" with this... this... nigerian

[yellowbaron]

Also I'm going to properly look into SirCakez when I'm fully awake.
As it stands, from a glance at his ISO, he's just standing in the background 80% of the time flinging shit shouting "fight!".
As I said, I need to read properly tomorrow, but I don't see anything from him to back up anything that he says. He looks like he's trying too hard to blend in.

That being said, I really can't stay up. If you guys need me, say my name 3 times. :giggles:

lol at this mud flinging

Isn't Orlais the nation with anonymous voting?

Orlais is anonymous king assignment, who then picks a Warden.

We've agreed King will out themselves and Warden will out themselves if they've used up their power. Warden's will only claim after they've been Warden, not before.

[SirCakez]

So for irao

Besides the already mentioned "scumslip" push, there were a bunch of other things I didn't like from yellowbaron. My problems with them really started with their vote on Masq in 706 felt very opportunistic and had a weak explanation following it. They had no conviction behind it as well, they made a bad jump to ABR later on in 747 that went unexplained, they proceeded to hop off within 20 posts. Then in 780 they outright scumread the Nero hydra for posting a naked facepalm emote which was apparently a bad reaction? They also fencesit on something he posted being a scumslip which is awkward as hell. 791 has a terrible scumread on Masq for "their posts being terrible" which is the most vague and terrible reasoning to scumread someone I've ever seen (I've used this as made up reasoning for scumreads before as scum). Finally in 1108, when confronted about how awkward they are, they redirect the conversation to 100% and TBB instead, completely dodging the accusation.

tl;dr scumreads are all over the place and look obviously fake

[yellowbaron]

I never scumread Masq.

M&S was trying to convince me ABR was scum, I said I didn't think they were scum for outing as King but depending how they play it might be scummy/fake town points. Then ABR starts literally trolling which I don't like so I voted. But I realise that I rly don't like the way M&S is trying to push the ABR wagon (more than I dislike ABR's play so far).

Also how is naked facepalm NOT a terrible response? I guess I missed the memo where you don't need to post content or have dialogue to solve the game - I'm sure we can all just use a bunch of smilies and we'll find scum ez right?

Also, me talking to TBB was actually responding to their post to me. I said I think they are role fishing and I find that scummy. But I did say that it's possible it wasn't actually a role-fish. Like 4 people said it wasn't and I find it highly unlikely that it was all scum who said it, so I droppes the issue.

Yes, I have more than a few scumreads. This is bad because...why exactly?

Besides the already mentioned "scumslip" push, there were a bunch of other things I didn't like from yellowbaron. My problems with them really started with their vote on Masq in 706 felt very opportunistic and had a weak explanation following it. They had no conviction behind it as well, they made a bad jump to ABR later on in 747 that went unexplained, they proceeded to hop off within 20 posts. Then in 780 they outright scumread the Nero hydra for posting a naked facepalm emote which was apparently a bad reaction? They also fencesit on something he posted being a scumslip which is awkward as hell. 791 has a terrible scumread on Masq for "their posts being terrible" which is the most vague and terrible reasoning to scumread someone I've ever seen (I've used this as made up reasoning for scumreads before as scum). Finally in 1108, when confronted about how awkward they are, they redirect the conversation to 100% and TBB instead, completely dodging the accusation.

tl;dr scumreads are all over the place and look obviously fake[/quote]

[Dunnstral]