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I got a job offer recently so I'm pretty happy nowadays that I don't have to worry about anything after graduation.
In post 292, FourTrouble wrote:Nah, we need votes on Ankamius. Even assuming 119 is okay (it's not), there's still been lots of stuff to talk about since the game "start," so the RVS vote, lack of scumhunting, and fluffy commentary is by far the worst, scummiest thing here.
So why don't you park your vote on me? I said the same thing about not reading any of the pre-game stuff, barely did any scum hunting, and post useless content.
Based on my neighborhood,
I think Solar Wind (ffery) is town and I have a null read on Imperium (Nacho). The reason I have really good town vibes is based on ffery is because how she pegged Rach to be town based pre-game stuff in the neighborhood. Null read on Imperium because I can't figure if him asking me a bunch of questions is being lazy scum or town.
I read the thread but I'm going to need another re-read to get coherent thoughts. I'll post with thoughts about what's have happened."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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By #172, I don't like how Metal Sonic interacted with Solar Wind and Imperium, his lack of thoughts on them two, and how he's asking really lazy questions.
In post 210, ooba wrote:I'm against outing neighbourhoods this game. Here are some scenarios where not outing actually helps:
- Scum\third party needing to target particular pantheons for their abilities
-Town informational roles sharing info to the neighbourhood.A cop can share his reads with the other people. One of the others can claim. etc.
Too late now but I don't see any negatives or positives to keeping the people in neighborhoods a secret or public.
In post 294, Ankamius wrote:
Pretty much the entire game up to this point feels like noise. It's a few people talking to each other when over half the game has barely had a chance to do close to anything yet.
I also hate it when people play in pre-game, especially for several pages.
I feel this.
I think AP's town but I kind of disagree with his read on FT because I don't see him as town more as null because I think his accusation was bs.
I'm going to VOTE: Metal Sonic for the time being due to his wish washy play."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 305, Imperium wrote:My "she" *lazy* questioning of bitmap in the neighborhood is to see why she gave solar wind a town read based on her town reading RachMarie. Like literally her whole entire reasoning of town reading solar wind is because they town read RachMarie.
Yeah, pretty much."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 303, Ankamius wrote:In post 299, Solar Wind wrote:In post 292, FourTrouble wrote:Nah, we need votes on Ankamius. Even assuming 119 is okay (it's not), there's still been lots of stuff to talk about since the game "start," so the RVS vote, lack of scumhunting, and fluffy commentary is by far the worst, scummiest thing here.
Agree about the RVS vote and lack of scumhunting. Not sure if it is his playstyle to complain about a large number of posts in general. I'm waiting to see how he catches up.
Give me something specific to look at and I'll respond. Otherwise, I'm waiting until something jumps out at me.
What do you think of Metal Sonic's interactions with Imperium and Solar Wind?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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The whole spat when Metal Sonic kept on asking "Are you scum?" and not answering any of their questions."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 340, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 321, Imperium wrote:why do you call yourself a daycop when you're obviously not?
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I like this even more than being obv-town."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 391, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Mmmmmm, SLEEP TIME. SLEEP TIME IS THE BEST TIME. ALSO BITMAP, WHY THE METAL VOTE?
b/c he was acting really scummy in my opinions earlier this evening but I kind of want to move it now"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 439, Solar Wind wrote:
My first reaction would have been "gambit!". Next stop would be wondering about grey-area role modifiers that aren't normal but aren't necessarily bastard either. Just about the last thing I would think is that scum-MS would want to 1v1 me on day 1. Someone fake-guiltied me a year or so ago and didn't reveal the gambit until after I was mislynched, though. His reasoning was that my reaction to the gambit wasn't a town-reaction because I didn't go balls to the wall 1v1 and try to get him lynched. I sat down and tried to solve the game for the rest of the game day instead.
Xombie's visible trajectory from the guilty claim doesn't follow mine, but we're different players with different styles and different experience levels. There are tiny anomalous bumps on his reaction, which leave me kinda meh, but I don't think he's the scummiest scum that ever scummed atm.
Really? My reaction would of been
"fite me son, I 1v1 you scumbag. I'm town and ur scum. If I get lynched then I declare you to be tomorrow's lynch."
Initially I had Xombie as null because of the whole song reference thing but his "lack" of reaction towards MS kind of rubs me the wrong way."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 440, FourTrouble wrote:In post 427, Imperium wrote:Implied scum motivation for complaining about lack of scumhunting is that he doesn't have to do anything, which would be scum motivation because he doesn't have to post, but the players with the biggest voice in the game are the ones doing all the posting and he's making enemies of us as a result, which accomplishes the opposite of what he would have set out to do as scum.
Ankamius is anti-town and lazy; both those make him more likely scum than town. Yes, he might alienate a couple players, but that doesn't change the analysis. Scum can still survive having an enemy or two.
How is he anti-town? Also, being lazy is not alignment indicative."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 451, FourTrouble wrote:In post 446, Bitmap wrote:How is he anti-town? Also, being lazy is not alignment indicative.
Not reading large portions of the game is anti-town. Not commenting on anything unless specifically asked is anti-town. Casting an RVS vote (i.e. trying to go back) when RVS is dead is anti-town. All of these suggest that Ankamius isn't scumhunting (which is anti-town) and a passive/reactionary approach (which is also anti-town). I also disagree that being lazy isn't scummy. Yes, town are sometimes lazy too (and I'm at fault for this more than anyone), but in general scum are lazy more often than town, so it increases the odd that someone is scum.
He said he didn't want to read any of the pre-game talk since the game hasn't started which is understandable. Passive/reactionary is a playstyle, which is not alignment-indicative unless paired with meta. Otherwise, I understand where you're coming from."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 460, FourTrouble wrote:Bitmap, why is Metal still your top suspect (or if he isn't, who is and why aren't you voting them)?
I used to think he was pretty scummy because of his cop claim and his "ARE YOU SCUM LOLOLOL" interactions however, that has lessened a lot. I was actually contemplating about moving my vote to Rach but I was waiting to hear answers to farside's question."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 469, Imperium wrote:Then Solar Wind noted a scumread there, and I don't have any of those and I don't have a read on AP's posting thus far, so I voted.
Why vote Rach after the whole "Solar Wind is town for Rach read" thing? You think ffery's wrong?
I don't buy it."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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Considering some to a lot of the "big" players with a lot of experience and expertise are saying you are town, wouldn't it be better for me as scum to claim you as town and ride under their wings since they have me pegged as town?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 551, House wrote:In post 549, Bitmap wrote:vezo hasn't posted much in here. :/
He's trying to stoke discussion in the hood. Thankfully, nobody is biting.
I'll bite the wagon though because being more active in the hood than the main thread is very disturbing.
VOTE: vezo"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 582, vezokpiraka wrote:Vezok wagon best wagon.
Now seriously. Metal sonic is town. House and TSO are town also.
I still have no idea what's up with beast.
Why are they town?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 615, Ankamius wrote:Metal Sonic recently ran into a situation where he 'caught' someone and the other mason hard defended him until they outed as masons.
It's not implausible in the slightest and I feels more town than scum to have immediately jumped to that conclusion, even with the posts afterwards.
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I was thinking about this game and thought about the gambit MS played against Xombie. I guess I'm too influenced by the playstyle of UberNinja and drmyshotgun but when you think about it, Xombie didn't have a reaction really which is weird because when I think about it more, I would have screamed and condemned Metal Sonic and created an ultimatum to get him lynched. But Xombie didn't do that. Instead, he was like "uhhh ok" which doesn't strike me as what a town player would usually say in that situation."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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This is the post I'm talking about knowing that you're town and knowing that the other person has a bullshit PR scum read on you:
UberNinja wrote:SUPER BONUS POINTS, forneitherdrmyshotgunorBitmap claiming:
"IknowI'm town, and thus Iknowyou're scum, if you claim to have a PR scum result on me."
Neitherof them said that.
Instead, they both counter-claimed PRs, as a last-ditch attempt to try to stave off my utter destruction of their scum team. That's just another reason why they're scum, if you didn't already believe it.
Sorry guys. You're out of luck. It's over. Just vote yourselves, because there'sliterally no way you can winthis game.
This was from this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23478"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 659, BRantz wrote:In post 656, Bitmap wrote:I was thinking about this game and thought about the gambit MS played against Xombie. I guess I'm too influenced by the playstyle of UberNinja and drmyshotgun but when you think about it, Xombie didn't have a reaction really which is weird because when I think about it more, I would have screamed and condemned Metal Sonic and created an ultimatum to get him lynched. But Xombie didn't do that. Instead, he was like "uhhh ok" which doesn't strike me as what a town player would usually say in that situation.
Why does Xombie reacting differently than you in that situation mean he is scummy?
Hi. It's not just reacting differently than me. It's just the fact that he supposedly knows he's town and is like "uhh ok" instead of "ur scum" sort of mentality and I would assume a newer player would shift towards "wtf are you doing im town" mentality if that happened to them."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 687, mastin2 wrote:
As of 380, I'm worryinglyIn post 298, Solar Wind wrote:AP, please tell me you are kidding and not that you are scum again ready to mudsling into oblivion.notgetting townvibes from AP's posting. Who knows, that might change later-on, and it's difficult to lock down when he was V/LA, thus, unavailable to post more like the AP I'm comfortable with, butstill...
Generally, by now, he towns things up.
I'm not seeing the towning things up; I'm seeing posting things up. Not "mudslinging", per se, but more like...posting to post stuff, rather than posting to see what sticks. (AKA, scumhunting.) Doesn't mean he's a scumread, yet, but he's disconcertingly close to one.
Are you expecting AP to post while he's V/LA?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 694, mastin2 wrote:
I expect nothing from AP.In post 693, Bitmap wrote:Are you expecting AP to post while he's V/LA?
What I'd HOPE for from AP would be having a constant stream of readable content where his heart was in the game rather than in whatever place his distracted mind has placed it in (via his V/LA and multi-game priorities) so that one way or another I'd have a read locked down.
I don't.
Is it a null read or leaning scum read then? Has AP had scum games where he doesn't have this constant stream?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 695, Metal Sonic wrote:Should TSO or beastcharizard die? What if they re masons?
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In post 697, Bitmap wrote:In post 694, mastin2 wrote:
I expect nothing from AP.In post 693, Bitmap wrote:Are you expecting AP to post while he's V/LA?
What I'd HOPE for from AP would be having a constant stream of readable content where his heart was in the game rather than in whatever place his distracted mind has placed it in (via his V/LA and multi-game priorities) so that one way or another I'd have a read locked down.
I don't.
Is it a null read or leaning scum read then?Has AP had scum games where he doesn't have this constant stream?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 701, Bitmap wrote:In post 697, Bitmap wrote:In post 694, mastin2 wrote:
I expect nothing from AP.In post 693, Bitmap wrote:Are you expecting AP to post while he's V/LA?
What I'd HOPE for from AP would be having a constant stream of readable content where his heart was in the game rather than in whatever place his distracted mind has placed it in (via his V/LA and multi-game priorities) so that one way or another I'd have a read locked down.
I don't.
Is it a null read or leaning scum read then?Has AP had scum games where he doesn't have this constant stream?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 720, Solar Wind wrote:Because he has commented about people who have been substantive and your post 718 looks likeposturingif you'll pardon the expression.
The problem is that a whole fuckton of people have only given a few posts and been in-active this whole game. What makes AP special?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 726, Solar Wind wrote:In post 725, Bitmap wrote:In post 720, Solar Wind wrote:Because he has commented about people who have been substantive and your post 718 looks likeposturingif you'll pardon the expression.
The problem is that a whole fuckton of people have only given a few posts and been in-active this whole game. What makes AP special?
Are you asking this of me? Or of Mastin?
Well Mastin still hasn't answered my question on how scum AP plays so I guess to you."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 768, -Blonde- wrote:Oh.. they're inactive. Ok and yeah, this is my second game on this site and you guys seem to all play different from the others I've played with. But I'll change my vote then,
VOTE: Solar Wind
Do you think Solar Wind is scummy or is this "I'm pissed someone is pressuring me" vote?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 777, Solar Wind wrote:He told Xombie he had a daycop guilty on Xombie. It's more about the reaction by Xombie than about Metal Sonic's alignment at the moment.
If that was me who MS was reaction testing instead of Xombie with the same reaction, would you think that's a normal town response from me?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 779, Solar Wind wrote:I dunno. I'd probably want to meta dive for similar events if it had been you or someone else where data might be available. I'm leery of assuming that everyone reacts the same way because it caused two mislynches and a town loss when someone assumed there was one right way to react to being fake guiltied.
But my problem is that Xombie doesn't have any previous games and you're assuming as a result, his reaction was townish."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 781, -Blonde- wrote:In post 775, Bitmap wrote:In post 768, -Blonde- wrote:Oh.. they're inactive. Ok and yeah, this is my second game on this site and you guys seem to all play different from the others I've played with. But I'll change my vote then,
VOTE: Solar Wind
Do you think Solar Wind is scummy or is this "I'm pissed someone is pressuring me" vote?
No, I voted for him, hoping he'd vote for me. Didn't go quite to plan.
And what would you have gained if she/he voted for you?"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 784, Solar Wind wrote:
In the absence of anything comparative to go on, I default to using myself as a yardstick, and footnote the hell out of the event for future reconsideration.
I think you're doing the same thing? Different yardsticks.
This is very true. My anxiety is cured for this matter."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 798, Metal Sonic wrote:Bitmap, do YOU think xombie's is scum?
Maybe. Eh."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 804, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 801, Bitmap wrote:In post 798, Metal Sonic wrote:Bitmap, do YOU think xombie's is scum?
Maybe. Eh.
What do you think about TSO bad beast? If you had a dayvig policy vig, would you kill one of them?
Do you even have a policy vig? If you shoot one of them right now, I can do something cool
Lurky. No. There are a lot more lurkers in this game than them and their posts didn't strike me as odd yet.
Imay or may nothave some sort of vig mechanic."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 810, Metal Sonic wrote:Bitmap
Why don't we work together?
If you have a dayvig, hypothetically, who would you use it on?
Can we play hypothetical dayvig games?
vezo, no"I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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In post 829, PeregrineV wrote:
I'd like to hear Vezok's scum motivation for "trying to stoke discussion in the hood". And why you are glad discussion is low.
Neighborhoods can be heavily utilized as scum as a way to be perceived as town. It's also much easier to coax your neighborhood than the players themselves. I don't know anything about what's going on about the neighborhood so I'm not sure how much discussion they are exactly having."I give up on trying to read you. You're unimaginably scummy, with a dose of ultra-Town thrown in for spice."-
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