SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Bitmap]

Because he has commented about people who have been substantive and your post 718 looks like

posturing

if you'll pardon the expression.

The problem is that a whole fuckton of people have only given a few posts and been in-active this whole game. What makes AP special?

[Solar Wind]

Because he has commented about people who have been substantive and your post 718 looks like

posturing

if you'll pardon the expression.

The problem is that a whole fuckton of people have only given a few posts and been in-active this whole game. What makes AP special?

Are you asking this of me? Or of Mastin?

[mastin2]

Hey mastin. Who would you track tonight if you had the chance, and why?

That's classified. I'd be more than happy to share with my masonry this answer, though!

Geez, I'd be paranoid if I wasn't part of this hydra.
- House

Kinda think you're town from that line alone. Also, eyestott's probably town for ~reasons~, but not sure about that.

So then how do you distinguish bad scum posting from bad town posting?

Bad scum? Heck no.

...And there's your answer.

Matin why are you voting for someone who has been pretty much a non entity in the game?

Because he's the only scumread I'm comfortable voting. You'd be my vote if not for the Rach defense squad (still calling for bragging rights if you guys are wrong and I was right), and I'm not yet comfortable enough with the idea of AP being scum to vote him. I mean, I

could

vote him, a-la a "Hi, AP" in the same vein my Imperium vote was a "Hi, Nacho" type thing (no, I didn't actually think anything they posted on page one was scummy, it's just that I wanted to vote someone on P1 and they're the people I decided to go along with), but it would be just that, whereas with Blonde, here I'm actually making an accusation, vanity-driven as it may be.

Also, what ffery said; I've commented plenty on people being town.

[mastin2]

(Disclaimer, no, Tammy, I did not forget about you. I have much <3 to you. But it was Nacho doing the p1 posting, thus my vote was a 'Hi' to him. Also, while you generally make yourself obvtown without me interacting with you, it's better for me to get a Nacho interaction to read him.)

[-Blonde-]

Ok, I'm going to vote. Let's see..

VOTE: The Mask

Because?

*Shrugs*

[Bitmap]

Because he has commented about people who have been substantive and your post 718 looks like

posturing

if you'll pardon the expression.

The problem is that a whole fuckton of people have only given a few posts and been in-active this whole game. What makes AP special?

Are you asking this of me? Or of Mastin?

Well Mastin still hasn't answered my question on how scum AP plays so I guess to you.

[Solar Wind]

I don't particularly want to leave a roadmap to ffery-townreads in the thread for AP's enjoyment, so this isn't going to be heavy detail about how I form my read of him.

I don't think I'm all that good yet as spotting him as scum early on. I seem to home in on him being town more easily and wind up with a "hmmm...not sure" read at first when he's scum.

But, his scum game to me can be pretty hardball with strong strategic pushes to strongarm lynches. When he's hemmed in by scumreads, his play is less hardball (though not necessarily less effective).

He hasn't really done anything substantive yet, but there are decent well known reasons why that wouldn't happen given when the game started up. He's been in Chicago at a mini-meet with Chicago scummers since Friday. I expect to see him around and maybe starting to catch up tonight or tomorrow.

[RachMarie]

Mastin
I call conf bias on me. I can't remember offhand a game when you did not think I was scum and every time I turned out to be town, so I would not be pushing on bragging rights just yet. BTW I am not happy with the response of I think you are scum but I am gonna vote this other dude who has not contributed to the game and might end up being replaced, because you have champions in SW and Imperium. If you think I am scum do not let that stop you. You are wrong, but seriously you should vote who you think is scum not hide behind other players.


Blonde
I would like to know more of why you think Mask is scum? Shrugs is not an acceptable answer.


Bit
I can't answer for Mastin, but in my experience AP town tends to fake claim and do gambits a lot, I will have to look back at previous games to see what I can pull out about scum AP, he tends to stick out more as town.

[mastin2]

Mastin
I call conf bias on me. I can't remember offhand a game when you did not think I was scum and every time I turned out to be town, so I would not be pushing on bragging rights just yet.

On the contrary, I have a rather excellent history reading you. You've turned up scum when I've said you would far more often than not, and vice-versa, too. Now, in spite of being a scumhunting god, no, my accuracy is not a perfect 100%. But nor is this confirmation bias. I'm scumreading you because you're posting things which I put a fair amount of confidence behind being scum, albeit not absolute confidence. Thus, why I backed down. You're a scumread, but I'm not going to push you when you're not absolute and you've got a defense squad insisting to the contrary. I'll just gripe about it in the background. A sort of, "I'm willing to admit I could be wrong, thus why she's this high, but if not for the defense she wouldn't be nearly this high; she'd be my vote" type of deal.

[mastin2]

Also, fuck TD. The rest of our neighborhood is already revealed so I'm saying it here and now. He's in our neighborhood of four player-slots.

Is it bad that the first thought entering into my mind was "you should totally policy-lynch him to increase the overall quality of your 'hood"?

I feel like it's bad. (Also, should be noted, everything about me except for niggles of experience says to lynch him and that he'll flip scum. It's just the niggles of experience say, "sorry, wishful thinking". )

You're actually high hanging fruit this game ironically.

Just for the record.
I don't care about Bitmap's alignment; I'm never lynching there.

Also, BRantz's 500 was terrible. In a potentially-scum-but-not-sure kind of way.

[mastin2]

Anyway, caught up. I'll gather my thoughts together in a while, but pretty dang sure I've got a decent handle on the game, albeit one with too few scumreads.

[mastin2]

Xombie
ZZZX
Bitmap
FourTrouble
Imperium
Solar Wind
Ooba

TSO<--Read atrophied somewhat, but still town.
iHouse<--Around here for now.
Ankamius <--Eh, read atrophied a bit. Still townish.
farside22
vezokpiraka
VysePresident
PeregrineV
beastcharizard
theaceofspade
Metal Sonic
The Mask

TiphaineDeath
RachMarie <--But she'd be at the bottom normally.
BRantz
AngryPidgeon
-Blonde-

...Yeah, not a great division, but something like this for a start. It'd help if people were actually posting in HERE.

[T S O]

[T S O]

it makes me rather sad to not see myself as town

though rational tso tells me I couldn't be town to everyone on my play so far.

[mastin2]

(If you're wondering why Xombie's so high, it's because Xombie's in my head.














)

[Solar Wind]

Ok, I'm going to vote. Let's see..

VOTE: The Mask

Because?

*Shrugs*

Vote looks hypocritical

[mastin2]

it makes me rather sad to not see myself as town
though rational tso tells me I couldn't be town to everyone on my play so far.

Hey, you're close to! You're also pretty dang high up on the list, too. So won't be long before you earn your wings, I'm sure.

[mastin2]

Ok, I'm going to vote. Let's see..
VOTE: The Mask

Because?

*Shrugs*

Vote looks hypocritical

Could always vote Blonde with me, then!

[iHouse]

Xombie
ZZZX
Bitmap
FourTrouble
Imperium
Solar Wind
Ooba

TSO<--Read atrophied somewhat, but still town.
iHouse<--Around here for now.

Shame on you. Ask Wake how I react when people sandbag my townreads.

- House

[T S O]

Wake, how does House react when people sandbag his townreads?

[Imperium]

Yo.

Vote: Imperium

.

Why?

Because screw you all, I am a scumhunting GOD.

I'm almost willing to sheep you based on the one post he's made since yours.

Not because it's a prod dodge, but that it looks like an opportunistic way to active lurk, given the two posts prior to it.

Mastin's vote was a joke.

I'm not sure what you mean by the two posts prior being an opportunistic way to active lurk.

This head will be somewhat lurking the next few days until I feel like I can get my head in the game. Nacho might be around sometime before that though. But considering we've already put enough in the thread that people should be able to have a read on us, I don't think the game is going to suffer and might very well benefit.

[iHouse]

Wake, how does House react when people sandbag his townreads?

I'm pretty sure you could answer that, too.

[iHouse]

Yo.

Vote: Imperium

.

Why?

Because screw you all, I am a scumhunting GOD.

I'm almost willing to sheep you based on the one post he's made since yours.

Not because it's a prod dodge, but that it looks like an opportunistic way to active lurk, given the two posts prior to it.

Mastin's vote was a joke.

I'm not sure what you mean by the two posts prior being an opportunistic way to active lurk.

p-dodging right after 2 others do also? Looks pretty opportunistic, to me. Drowning it in a group of post dodges increases town apathy.

[Solar Wind]

Xombie
ZZZX
Bitmap
FourTrouble
Imperium
Solar Wind
Ooba

TSO<--Read atrophied somewhat, but still town.
iHouse<--Around here for now.
Ankamius <--Eh, read atrophied a bit. Still townish.
farside22
vezokpiraka
VysePresident
PeregrineV
beastcharizard
theaceofspade
Metal Sonic
The Mask

TiphaineDeath
RachMarie <--But she'd be at the bottom normally.
BRantz
AngryPidgeon
-Blonde-

...Yeah, not a great division, but something like this for a start. It'd help if people were actually posting in HERE.

Are you reading Xombie like you'd read a newb? I kinda am.

The strength of your ZZZX read surprises me. I flipped through his iso and get a slight townfeel from them. Other than that I agree with your top tier.

I'll take your Rach concerns under consideration. What about her play feels scummy to you? I feel like she's pushing people this game more than she tends to do when she's scum. I haven't played with scum-Rach since Xenogears.

[Xombie]

What a time to come in with another prod dodge then.

Be posting after I've slept - long weekend.