Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:37 am

Majiffy and Mollie in one hydra?

VOTE: BeautAndTheBeast

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:58 am

^
I like this guy already

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:37 am

In post 37, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why would millers ever be investigated after claim

p sure he was talking about the situation about being investigated by cop when he didn't claim miller.

P-Edit: probably.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:38 am

I also see Sven as town at this moment.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #48 (isolation #4) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:40 am

In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Can you explain this

Gut.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #79 (isolation #5) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:01 am

I don't like Cabd's #76 pairing with his previous post.

P-Edit: ninja'd(?)

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #83 (isolation #6) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:02 am

anyway

UNVOTE:

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #88 (isolation #7) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:10 am

I was gonna ask "what false-reason" and I saw this post ↓

In post 86, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You people do realize he was responding to a hypothetical question of mine where I asked him to entertain sven-town right?

No I didn't.

Also if you're talking about Sven thing as "hot topic," I have you and Sven as town so I really don't find anything to comment atm.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #93 (isolation #8) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:15 am

@Nacho: As of now, town.

I don't have any strong scumreads from ppl who posted so far. About MS, I'm really biased at reading him right now for a reason.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #97 (isolation #9) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:25 am

In post 94, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 93, GuyInFreezer wrote:About MS, I'm really biased at reading him right now for a reason.
Why?

following game.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #100 (isolation #10) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:28 am

In post 99, TiphaineDeath wrote:Huh, interesting.

Elaborate on this plz.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #195 (isolation #11) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:45 am

BRO - seems town

@Varsoon's 136 - ....
But I'm p confident at reading varsoon so I'll wait for him to post more.

@orc's 158 - not yet but there's a high chance my vote will end up there, especially after stuff like 168.

@sven's 162 - see the arrows?

@sven's 165 - WIFOM

@sven's 171 - is that post referencing Cabd?

Wow sven breaks easier than remembrance.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #203 (isolation #12) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:56 am

@Nacho: earlier you said you had townread on TP. Is there a specific reason or is it just a gutread?

P-Edit: wallz!

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #228 (isolation #13) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:13 am

@V: Finished game is ok to link.

@N: cliffnote: everyone circlejerks until they lynch majiffy. Sven also broke early, claimed BP, and subbed out.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #238 (isolation #14) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:25 am

Guys just let nacho read and decide on his own.

@Sajin: what else did you expect?

P-Edit: posts!

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #239 (isolation #15) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:26 am

Varsoon is town too.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #246 (isolation #16) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:31 am

Both of your roles?

VOTE: Sven

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #251 (isolation #17) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:35 am

How is miller tracker two roles

P-Edit: I got a girl too.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #257 (isolation #18) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:40 am

@Mac: Then that's one role, not two.
Unless other ppl accepts "miller tracker" is two roles, I firmly believe that it's a scumslip.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #264 (isolation #19) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:49 am

Hey nacho what do you think of sven mentioning two roles?
I need a different view because I think sven slipped up and trying to get out of it.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #273 (isolation #20) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:56 am

@N: I don't like them either but considering the situation he is in and how he breaks easily the possibility of scum-sven slipping is pretty high.

P-edit: let me post

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #296 (isolation #21) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:52 am

@Sajin: pretty obvious what? Please enlighten me because I'm already at the stage where sven's rebuttal looks like he's trying to wiggle out of the situation.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #302 (isolation #22) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:07 am

P sure that meant to be a vote.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #308 (isolation #23) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:15 am

@b

In post 48, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 46, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Can you explain this
Gut.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #329 (isolation #24) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:43 am

@Sajin: sven's not new. Will it change your view? (Omg rhyme)
Also, I don't see what you say in that post. Is it jjust my english?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #421 (isolation #25) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:01 pm

@Sajin: I wasn't very clear there but what I wanted to say was I don't understand how you see "you can have my role. Both of them." as sven implying "I'm giving you both good and bad role."

If it's just my English, I'm willing to stop persuading that line. Otherwise, it's pretty damning.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #423 (isolation #26) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:04 pm

no.
No.
NO.
NOOO!

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #446 (isolation #27) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:24 pm

Um did I miss something or your sven read flipped 180

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #447 (isolation #28) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:25 pm

^
To mollie

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #477 (isolation #29) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:52 pm

In post 455, ² wrote:VOTE: Mollie

change this if you disagree, buldermar.

- f

Is it just me or is this a fearvote?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #481 (isolation #30) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:56 pm

In post 478, RachMarie wrote:Cabd ehh did you pull a scum slot this time around?

I have been playing catch up here so yeah give me a bit more time before writing me off. I had a computer too when we played in that game.

Elaborate on your Cabd read.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #484 (isolation #31) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:57 pm

*Please.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #513 (isolation #32) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:27 pm

Can I have a link to that poetic justice game you guys are talking about?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #543 (isolation #33) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:52 pm

In post 538, Nachomamma8 wrote:Varsoon isn't scum.

^
This.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #546 (isolation #34) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:56 pm

I've never seen ffer snap like this except for once. Last few game we played together she was pretty calm if my memory serves correctly. But then those games she really wasn't pressured enough.
That one exception was from the chatmafia game that I modded once, but I don't think she snapped this hard.
Also that one vote I quoted from her I see it as a fearvote.

@Nacho: can you explain town mollie to me? because every time I played with her her playstyle looked different every time.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #562 (isolation #35) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:19 pm

Hi Majiffy.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #577 (isolation #36) » Tue May 21, 2013 3:40 pm

In post 573, RachMarie wrote:GiF needs to post MORE

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #613 (isolation #37) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:51 pm

I don't know how nacho got scumread on TMT from that 2 posts.
I probably would need more from him.

About mollie I'm gonna sheep nacho on it.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #620 (isolation #38) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:02 pm

Town (not in strength order)
Nacho/orc/molljiffy/varsoon/sajin/bro/care(gut)

Scum (not in strength order)
TD/sven/2

Null
Everyone else

This is where I stand so far.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #624 (isolation #39) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:15 pm

For some reason I feel like I'm invisible every time I'm playing mafia. :T
What do?

P-edit: p sure he did already.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #627 (isolation #40) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:19 pm

Idk. Sometimes I randomly get the feeling (like right now) and it bothers me a little.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #636 (isolation #41) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:29 pm

I prob should change my playstyle or something.

I'm going to bed now.

Hope sajin respond to me by the time I wake up.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #751 (isolation #42) » Tue May 21, 2013 11:30 pm

Hey Varsoon.
You rolled scum this game, haven't you?
VOTE: Varsoon

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #752 (isolation #43) » Tue May 21, 2013 11:32 pm

In post 639, ² wrote:
In post 548, ² wrote:
In post 546, GuyInFreezer wrote:That one exception was from the chatmafia game that I modded once, but I don't think she snapped this hard.
You thought I snapped in that game?
GiF you never answered this.

You know the answer already.
Just in case you're not clear, yes.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #754 (isolation #44) » Tue May 21, 2013 11:37 pm

In post 663, TiphaineDeath wrote:27 pages...
1 day...
Everyone hates me...
Don't you people have lives?
I'm sorry but I really don't have time to read all this tonight, I'll figure it out tomorrow.

Can I split my vote and put a vote on him too?

P-Edit: that was before I read his more recent posts. I take that back.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #755 (isolation #45) » Tue May 21, 2013 11:39 pm

I could explain how varsoon is not town now but i'd rather see him post more first.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #788 (isolation #46) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:25 am

@BRO: I already said I'm keeping the reasons to myself regarding Varsoon for now.
The earlier townread on him was meta.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #793 (isolation #47) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:34 am

@BRO: Not yet. I really haven't interacted with Varsoon yet and he won't be back for around 7 hours.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #795 (isolation #48) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:36 am

Who's on TD wagon again?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #798 (isolation #49) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:39 am

AJ/Varsoon/Molljiffy.

I see what you mean by there.

But imo the TD wagon is not growing as fast as I would expect.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #806 (isolation #50) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:52 am

Orc townreads you imo.

Orc said he thinks scums are piling on TD wagon.

Orc scumreads AJ/Varsoon/MS right now. (that's 3/4 votes on TD wagon.)

That's what I meant.

And no, I townread you.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #807 (isolation #51) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:53 am

Hey Nacho. Varsoon is scum too.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #809 (isolation #52) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:58 am

Sheeping is not my style and I'd rather find my own reason to vote/jump on wagon.
Even though I had a urge to just hardcore sheep Nacho/you lot of times.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #814 (isolation #53) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:10 am

@molljiffy: I just listed the ppl who were on the TD wagon.

(missed MS)

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #825 (isolation #54) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:25 am

In post 815, Nachomamma8 wrote:Tell me why Varsoon is scum.

Long story short, I think he's forcing his townmeta. I won't go to the detail until I have my one-on-one convo with him.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #835 (isolation #55) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:36 am

Sounds like a plan.

We'll do that in approximately 7 hours later.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #843 (isolation #56) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:44 am

In post 298, ² wrote:
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MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF POSTS INCOMING

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GuyInFreezer · Post Post #886 (isolation #57) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:36 am

In post 877, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 876, RachMarie wrote:sven is being awfully quiet what gives? That is not like him?
I KNOW

*cough cough* Amnesiac Mafia *cough cough*

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #896 (isolation #58) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:45 am

In post 891, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:gif, sven or 2

As of now, I lean toward 2.

But I would like to see lynch happen after I get to have a friendly conversation with Varsoon.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #932 (isolation #59) » Wed May 22, 2013 7:26 am

I would like to hear your own opinion about Varsoon and TD, plz.
You know, like why you don't like them.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #939 (isolation #60) » Wed May 22, 2013 7:36 am

In post 933, Cabd wrote:Varsoon makes eggo look like the inferior waffle brand.

That's not enough.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #943 (isolation #61) » Wed May 22, 2013 7:39 am

I'm exception because I'm about to

deathtunnel Varsoon when he comes back

have a friendly conversation with him when he comes back.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #951 (isolation #62) » Wed May 22, 2013 7:56 am

r u gonna be around after 3 hrs? We'll start talking then.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #980 (isolation #63) » Wed May 22, 2013 8:59 am

Here's the little rule.
I don't care if you answered it previously. When I ask you stuff, answer them again.

Let's start with these posts.

In post 252, Varsoon wrote:Sven, do you think there's scum pushing on your wagon?
If so, who?

Why did you ask this question to sven? It's a good discussion starter, but you never followed up on this.

In post 261, Varsoon wrote:@Sven:
Ah, who do you think is town, so far?

@GIF:
I could see where he would understand miller-tracker as two roles.
253 is too compelling, though.

ok.

In post 261, Varsoon wrote: I really like Sven's claim more and more now. It feels like a litmus test for town/scum.

Elaborate on this.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1002 (isolation #64) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:32 am

@V: ok.
What did you learn from that "litmus test?"

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 10:38 am

Ghostlin don't steal my thunder.
Go have fun with your other scumreads.
Varsoon is mine.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:17 am

In post 949, Varsoon wrote:
In post 793, GuyInFreezer wrote:@BRO: Not yet. I really haven't interacted with Varsoon yet and he won't be back for around 7 hours.
the way GIF knows me, it's terrifying.

That scum win wasn't a freebie you know.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:22 am

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:23 am

@Sajin: so it's a biased view? :/
Well that doesn't help me a whole lot.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:28 am

TMT I'm coming for you after I'm done with Varsoon.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:32 am

@Varsoon: cool. Tell us what you learned about those "mentalities."

P-Edit: DON'T DISTURB DAMMIT

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:34 am

@TMT: start with your reads.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:37 am

In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:37 am

In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:53 am

Varsoon you know I'm asking what you learned about players in THIS GAME with sven-litmus test.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 11:59 am

Can you guys plz go look someone else other than varsoon till I'm done with him?
He can answer you guys' posts when I'm done with him.

You guys can go for other scummy guys too like TMT, who disappeared after I asked him for reads.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:08 pm

If I was confident at my English I wouldn't ask this but
Hey Mac. Can you read over my questions on Varsoon so far and see if Varsoon's answer makes sense?

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:08 pm

Especially 1036-1040.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:13 pm

@TMT

1) elaborate on your 180 on TD.
2) elaborate on your scumread on Ghostlin

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:19 pm

K.
@V: what exactly of orc's "bossy play" irked you?

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:22 pm

@V: So you don't think town would do the same thing?

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:25 pm

Ghostlin gimme your scumgames.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PRESS "SUBMIT" sdkjdfkdfklfdkldfklswakjfklfg

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:28 pm

@V: how exactly I ended in your weak scumread and null to very next post?

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:43 pm

Erm that's too much to read. Are those recent ones?

@TMT: tell me what you don't like about nacho.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 12:45 pm

@V: in your post 678, you mentioned you not liking orc's and 2's post as much.
Why didn't you like their posts?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1103 (isolation #85) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:00 pm

@2: Nein.

@orc: huh?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1108 (isolation #86) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:03 pm

Orc you won't like this

But I'm slowly leaning town on him again.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1117 (isolation #87) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:21 pm

@Andrius: re: Varsoon, meta.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1124 (isolation #88) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:39 pm

I had a feeling that ghostlin is town and after reading his scumgame I still think he's town.
He's waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too polite in his scumgame.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1128 (isolation #89) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:46 pm

Under 9000.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1130 (isolation #90) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:51 pm

I don't know about active lurkin' but last time I met his as scum he lurked after talking a bit in early game.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1131 (isolation #91) » Wed May 22, 2013 1:51 pm

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1143 (isolation #92) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:07 pm

Welcome back Varsoon.

What made your read on orc suddenly change in #714?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1145 (isolation #93) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:13 pm

Varsoon never trolls.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1158 (isolation #94) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:03 pm

Ok. This and I'm done.

Gimme a full readlist. Possibly with the reason why.

P-Edit: that better not be serious.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1162 (isolation #95) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:04 pm

@V: you.
P-edit is to orc.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1164 (isolation #96) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Orc you could've waited till I was done and I was gonna explain it all

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1170 (isolation #97) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:15 pm

Yes.

@V: I was hoping for more detailed reads.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1174 (isolation #98) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:23 pm

Well if varsoon is dying, my work has no fruit.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1183 (isolation #99) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:33 pm

You finally understand, orc.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 4:49 pm

Anyway when I was talking to Varsoon I was mainly looking for his thought process and stuff.

I flipped my read on him because it looked like he was backing down too easily, his thought process looked offkey, and looked like he was distancing me. (Considering I can read him well.)

Turned out his "distancing" was just paranoia about me, and I could follow his thought process of his posts regarding his posts, and that's a good sign.

Also I could see the reason on sudden readflip on orc, and considering it's Varsoon, I buy it.

So Varsoon is town.

UNVOTE:

@TMT: what's your experience of mafia games?

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 4:54 pm

Town tends to have more natural thought process. Meta is a part too.

Offkey as non-natural. Like missing pieces.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 22, 2013 5:03 pm

How about contents?

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 3:26 am

have fun catching up 49 pages.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 3:49 am

hey orc do u wanna MS wagon?

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 3:59 am

MS is getting bit too lazy for my taste right now.
We have plenty of days so

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 4:07 am

You're talking about AJ, right?
Lemme read his posts because honestly I haven't paid attention to him yet.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 4:38 am

But in the same case, scum-svenskt wouldn't be happy for some of us calling him out for lurkin'.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 4:59 am

Erm I probably need something stronger than #1233 to be convinced because I see replacing-out as null.

Also I have some games to catch up so I'll return with my thoughts on AJ later.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 8:21 am

How about reads on other ppl?

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 8:30 am

In post 774, Aj The Epic wrote: Town:
2
, B&B, Nacho, BRO, Andrius, GIF

Scum: TD, prob-sven,
lean varsoon, lesser lean orc.

In post 1148, Aj The Epic wrote: We've got town here:

Bro, Andy, Sajin, GIF, Cabd, B&B, Nacho, Rach (In order of strength

Scum here:

TMT, Ghost, Mac (motive bad, reasoning good... light scum read), Metal sonic, dntfkingcare, possibly
2
.

Your reads on bolded players have either magically disappeared or magically moved.
Maybe you can explain those.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 12:23 pm

fery you excited or something?
You've been hydraslipping a lot.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 12:23 pm

Also I'm gonna go back and reread that Bisquick game.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 1:04 pm

@2: plz explain how my sven vote was unoriginal.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 23, 2013 4:45 pm

Hey TMT in case you missed it I asked you a question.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 24, 2013 12:41 am

Hey MS do you have any completed scumgames?

@nacho: out of those lists I probably want to focus on cabd/TD/mac.

Tbh I think town mac and scum mac are same ;-;

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 24, 2013 7:39 am

@Nacho: what do you think of AJ, your scumread, pushing TMT, your other scumread?

Tbh I would've already written TMT down as scum if it wasn't for him wishing me to interrogate him. I usually see those thing town more than scum.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 24, 2013 8:09 am

@Nacho: re: aj, ok. Re:cabd, ok. I can follow you there, even though I'm kinda reluctant to accept it since I didn't came up with those myself.

Hey varsoon. Where are you?

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 24, 2013 1:30 pm

@TMT: I asked you 2 questions.
1. Why do you not like Nacho's play? (I'm pretty sure this was my question)
2. What's your mafia experience?

@Nacho: You say after I'm done with Varsoon, you would share the town thing that is not fake-able. Are you gonna do this soon or are you gonna wait till later?

@orc: scum Ghostlin is very polite while town Ghostlin is aggressive. That kind of nature is really hard to fake.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 24, 2013 1:36 pm

In post 1638, ² wrote:(that was a weird thing about the chat game, though)

I never noticed this. What about it was weird?

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 25, 2013 2:42 am

After #1711, I think I can put rach as town now. (Yeah nacho I know you put down bunch of "why this slot is town" posts. But i'd rather find my own reason to back my read.)

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 25, 2013 3:23 am

I'll know when he starts to post.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 25, 2013 3:34 am

In post 1722, borkjerfkin wrote:
jon_h61 has requested replacement.

Aw.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 25, 2013 5:17 am

Back to your hydra you go.

I can definitely see "screw you I'm going home" feel.

But I don't know what to make of that "happy wifom attack."

What does he trying to spin WIFOM of?

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 25, 2013 6:11 pm

Guys I'm gonna ignore this game a bit more cause I have a lot of games to catch on.
I'll catch up by tomorrow.

GuyInFreezer · Sun May 26, 2013 5:24 pm

He should be here for an hour more normally.

V/LA til tuesday

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 28, 2013 1:15 am

Back from the V/LA and catching up now.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 28, 2013 2:21 am

In post 1812, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1811, TheReverend wrote:me me me me, quick before TD walls me

Alright, the first step, then.

This'll be easier with you than most other players, actually.

I want a full claim from you, including the flavor paragraph and character that you are.
This shouldn't be hard, since you already claimed and all that.

In post 1821, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1820, ² wrote:
In post 1809, TheReverend wrote:Alright, whatever. I'll maybe take your anti-town comments on board if you flip town. Maybe. I still think you're scum, I find it strange that you're not applying any pressure on me. I'd expect townies to be extremely wary of me, because of my tracker modifier. Mollie is on the ball when she worries about a scum tracker. Like I said earlier, town thought process. Scum know I'm miller. Townies do not know. You don't seem to be interacting with me in a way that makes me believe you don't know what my role is. Therefore, I think you're scum. So my vote stays.
You inherited my read on svenskt, which went to pretty strong town when he replaced out. Prior to that I was willing to wait a day and see how my read shaped up. Our vote is on someone we agree looks scummy.

- f

Wait, wait, wait.
How does scum know he's miller?
Because, as far as I know, scum would only know who other scum is.
I guess he means that scum can infer that he's miller because they know he's town and he claimed miller?
Still, blah, I had a townread on sven and I'm way less sure about Rev.

In post 1816, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1814, ² wrote:I recommend paraphrasing the shit out of that stuff because mod kill. Also, suggest you guys check with bork before proceeding.

- f
Doesn't work if he paraphrases.
It -should- be rules legal, given that he's not taking a screen-cap, etc.
Because there's nothing that lets us know if he's 100% quoting the PM, right?

P-Edit:

Ah well.
My idea was to counterclaim with my PM, minus role, and then third parties could confirm that the rhetoric fits, etc.
/shrug
It -would- work if it was rules legal, but I guess not.

In post 1817, Varsoon wrote:Makes me think--in a Lylo situation, all players could quote their role PMs directly, and the one guy who isn't modkilled is the scum, because he would have to lie or be modkilled. Then again, I guess if everyone is modkilled, there's no one to lynch the remaining scum.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 28, 2013 4:28 am

Not liking 2's posts so far. Too snarky. (1851)

@V 1865 - wat

@Nacho 1880 - Amen.

@KBW 1896 - Hi.

2's posts are getting better at this point, willing to discuss something instead of being a stonewall. (1924)

1936 is pretty good case on AJ. Nacho how do you see between real and fake paranoia? I have 1 game experience with AJ (me scum and AJ town). Even though he posted like 2~3 times in there, I'm gonna go back to that game and compare the posts.

Reached my V/LA post. Gonna take a break now.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Gah fuck catch up posts with my phone. I'm gonna do it properly when I get desktop access

My read changes:
2: scum to town
Rev: scum to town
MS: null to town

Don't you worry. I'm gonna explain them all eventually.

Somebody asked me and nacho why we read Varsoon town.

That fail gambit was in town mindset, not scum mindset.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 29, 2013 2:42 pm

@Ghostlin re: rach's post
That's rach for you.
She was like this the last time we played together as well.

I never read her scumgame, but for now I'm leaning town on her.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 29, 2013 3:13 pm

I want ur scumgame plz

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 29, 2013 4:38 pm

Raaaaaaach

In post 2310, GuyInFreezer wrote:I want ur scumgame plz

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 29, 2013 4:42 pm

@Rev
Did you read my explanation why varsoon is town?

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 29, 2013 6:28 pm

@Rev: well considering that Varsoon once quickhammered to line up the lynch as TOWN, his "messy gambit" doesn't bother as much. (The same game that you linked. Newb1339.)

MS I have him as town atm and he's very lazy as town. He's one of those who doesn't play "normally."

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 3:01 am

also rev I know you townread on varsoon but are you still curious why I see him as town?

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 5:57 am

In post 2350, TheReverend wrote:If there's more than the "town mindset" you speak of, then yes, I'm curious. I'm also interested in why MS is town.

First of all his thought process is natural. Second of all, scum Varsoon loves deflecting when pressured. I don't see him deflecting in this game, and rather see him try to work with ppl when pressured, which is his towngame.

MS town, well this is bit hard for me to explain. When I wanted to start a wagon on him, I wanted to see if I could force more content out of him. He being lazy is a null tell, but his "idgaf" stance and not giving up on his "hey I did read his iso and posted under a minute" seems like a town stubbornness to me.

Also AJ's "summary" post looks lazy as hell and contains a lot of mud slinging.

VOTE: AJ

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 5:58 am

oh yeah. VOTE: tag is only for chatmafia. Derp.
VOTE: AJ

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 10:00 am

VOTE: 2

Fery's posts have been degrading more and more.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 11:44 am

At first she seemed town and then there was an overreaction from mollie's push. And then argumentation that I've never seen from town fery before, and to "I hate you" stance, and "and you smell bad", which was the post made my gut wrench.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 12:07 pm

@Mac: I took that post as just Cabd commenting on mollie tunneling 2. I didn't really feel anything strange from it.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 2:38 pm

Ugh that game

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 4:48 pm

In post 2537, Cabd wrote:Case against sonic:

1.
Somehow manages to ISO another player with a few posts from a town POV (which means reading deeply not skimming the shit out of it) within a minute. It's doable, but only if you're only looking for stuff that would affect you or a few other people (aka his scum team)

2.
Accepted me as town without really explaining why or questioning it. I'd sure as hell not be sold at me being town that early, I
was
am fucking horrible today.

3.
Stopped really doing... anything once the BnB x 2 x Cabd threesome orgy started. Actually, well before that started.

1. The fact that he's keep pushing it is towny.
2. That's MS in general. Lazy.
3. That's MS in general. Randomly pop up and post.

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 30, 2013 4:56 pm

"You can do stuff with her to make her good girl"
A+ summary

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 9:13 am

^
Misrep

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 9:28 am

It's not varsoon nor MS. Try again.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 11:03 am

Lucky you.
I'm stuck in the town in chapter 1 because I randomly jumped in the water.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 11:42 am

you took it out of context.
Andrius was just reiterating Varsoon's thought process.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 12:41 pm

In post 2690, Varsoon wrote:
In post 2680, GuyInFreezer wrote:you took it out of context.
Andrius was just reiterating Varsoon's thought process.

GIF, can you convince me that 2 is scum?

I'm not buying it.

I'm scumreading that slot based on fery's post alone. (screw reading bulder posts. His posts gives me too much headache.)
Basically, her overreaction against Mollie (who apparently played with fery a lot before) followed by vote which looked like a fearvote, and her degradation of posts.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 12:45 pm

In post 2695, waynegg wrote:And my focus is on Orc because there are numerous posts of his that went for empathy, OMGUS, created WIFOM, suggested sheeping and/or alluded to buddying (on D1, Really?!?), or had inconsistencies. I just pointed out the most obvious to me. He is my #1 read.

Sorry to break it to you: That's his town meta.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 12:47 pm

In post 2702, TheReverend wrote:I have an asshole and I'm not scum.

Put this in your sig plz.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 31, 2013 1:22 pm

No it's usually towntell.
That's why I have MS as town.

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:05 am

@cabd : Say that again plz.

I only started posting few hours ago after V/LA.

Catching up.

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:52 am

Re: 2 - TBH, I stopped reading 2's posts for a while because they talked too much. Later I realized that f/b ratio was leaning heavily on b so I decided to focus on f's posts.

Re: Varsoon - I know I held back a lot on Varsoon, because it was related to his meta stuff and if I outed the difference before my chat with him, he would've used his townmeta more. I've seen some suspicious spot, so I swapped my read on him. After convo, I found him town again.

Re: Townreads - It's something that I adapted since borkgame. Get strong townreads (unless some major scummy thing pops up) and PoE the shit out of the game.

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:09 pm

In post 3179, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:BRO and GiF are not posting enough I am quite disappointed in them

Bork didn't announce it but I was in V/LA til yesterday.

I'm here now, though.
Anyone wanna talk to me about anything?

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:16 pm

In post 3192, Cabd wrote:Gif, did you pass the turing test by laughing at my checklist, or are you a robot?

wat

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:26 pm

In post 3194, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:GIF tell me what you are making of the game

idc what everyone says Varsoon is town.
MS is also town.
AJ can be scum even though i would like to find my own reason on him.
My townreads so far haven't changed yet.
spinach slot looks better imo.
I still think Sajin is town even with his awkward convo with Venmar.
I still think TD is scum, but it's just a gut now.

I'm being lazy but I just can't save myself from being tired tonight.

P-Edit: Oh that. I'll read it soon.

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:55 pm

happy scumday Nacho

VOTE: AJ

GuyInFreezer · Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 3229, Cabd wrote:
In post 3227, Nachomamma8 wrote:WORST SCUMDAY EVER
But nacho we love you.

GuyInFreezer · Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:59 pm

In post 3251, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 3250, Metal Sonic wrote:also, lets discuss the 3 kills at night

2 scum factions + X shot Vig
1 scum faction + 1 SK (w/X or 1x bulletproof, probably)+ X shot Vig

2 scum factions+ 1 SK (w/X or 1x bulletproof, probably)

The bolded are the most likely in my mind.

Or venmar hid behind scum.

GuyInFreezer · Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:02 pm

@v: because if I was scum, you would've hard townread me til it's very late?

GuyInFreezer · Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:14 pm

As of now, TD (I'm still not convinced), SAD.
Spinach looks better since TM preoccupation.
Also gonna look back venmars post.

GuyInFreezer · Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:38 am

VOTE: rach

Because hider acts like cop?

GuyInFreezer · Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:58 am

Or andrius simply could've been roleblocked or something.
I still don't buy varsoon-scum.

Btw didn't orc had a nighttalk with ghostlin?

VOTE: ghostlin

GuyInFreezer · Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:03 am

Doesn't neighbors have same alignment?

GuyInFreezer · Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:05 am

Oh

I was confusing it with mason.

UNVOTE:

GuyInFreezer · Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:22 am

Didn't orc yelled at varsoon for quite a bit?

GuyInFreezer · Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:09 pm

Um didn't spinach had me as scum before?

GuyInFreezer · Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:13 am

In post 3426, spinachattack wrote:
In post 3410, GuyInFreezer wrote:Um didn't spinach had me as scum before?
Yes, I had you in my scum pile at one point. Are you really complaining that I found reason to take you out of it?

˜wayne

Magical out-of-nowhere read changes always makes me go paranoid.

GuyInFreezer · Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:55 am

In post 3447, spinachattack wrote:Fuck it. It's late in the game and you've asked me twice now this morning why I took you out of my scum bucket. The chance of you being able to use your role again is shaky at best anyhow. It's because you crumbed in several places that you're the other Cop and I picked up on it. You used your role on me and Varsoon so far from what I can tell. You cleared us both as town. Now, do you have any other reads?

Um I'm not cop.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:59 am

In post 3456, borkjerfkin wrote: Varsoon,
Yumea, Colonist Aligned Vanilla,
reverted to a telethia (Lynched) Day 4.

THIS BRINGS OUT MY FURY IN MY HEART

I'M RESETTING MY READS AND START OVER

YOU BETTER WATCH OUT SCUMZ CUZ I HAVE AN URGE TO DEFENESTRATE SOMEBODY

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:45 am

In post 1050, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 1036, GuyInFreezer wrote:In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.
Ok. Let's go.

²: If it's ok, I'm going to read ² as one person and not two separate people. Same goes for Beast. ² is scum to me because he reads TD as scum with little to no base and seems to be ignoring TD's more towny posts.

Aj The Epic: Null-Scum. I perceive AtE in #945 but that's pretty much it.

Andrius: Null, lack of posts.

BeautyAndTheBeast: Town. Reading well and catching things and no scumreads as of yet.

BROseidon: No reads as of yet.

Cabd: Null-Scum, mainly for not specifying reads in #931.

dntfkingcare: Null, lack of posts.
Ghostlin: After an ISO after Varsoon's read, scummy.
GuyInFreezer: Town. No scumreads. I like you asking questions.
jon_h61: no posts.

Mac: Town for the most part, but look at his #811, #821, and #831. Detailed analysis AJ is scummy, waits for nacho to vote, then says he's "considering" voting as well?!?!?

Metal Sonic: Null (no posts)

orcinus_theoriginal: Town. No scumreads, and acts and reads town.

RachMarie: Agree with Mac's #1010. Seems to be ignoring large portions of the game.

Sajin: Null.

Svenskt Stål: Active lurking, seemingly. Active early on but quieter now. Lingering scumreads from the claim and such.

Nachomamma8: Null. Towny early in game, but I feel a little less so about that.
TiphaineDeath: Town, scummy early in game, but did a 180
TMTOLBTWNTOF: No comment

Varsoon: Null, I'm finding it hard to read him.

Let's start from here.

Looks like a blue scum so far.

I'll keep digging.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:02 pm

Eh I highly doubt it's 2 ppl scum team balance wise.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:18 pm

I think it's bit too early for a mass claim.
Tomorrow maybe.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:55 pm

In post 3478, Andrius wrote:I'll see you here tomorrow, Nacho.
That's a promise.

This one was quite obvious imo.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:58 pm

Anyway continuation from where I left off:

Despite what I said few posts ago, this post felt very town:

TMT wrote:GIF can you do me at the same time because we can do it in real time, we may not be on at the same time like this for a while

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:55 pm

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:05 pm

In post 3489, spinachattack wrote:I find it odd all the Cop crumbs he seems to have laid down, yet says he's not Cop.

Just a curiosity, but since I'm not a cop and you thought you saw my "cop crumb", what did you see?

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:36 pm

Eh.
I just had a uber-strong townread on Varsoon after talking with him at D1 and some read progression.
Now I know how to crumb cop next time I roll one :3

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:42 pm

It's just that the "sheeping mindset" doesn't sit right with me.
It's probably because of my EM experience where ppl put sheeping as scumtell.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:50 pm

Yeah I learned that in this site. But the old habit die hard.

GuyInFreezer · Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:59 pm

Her d1 play is terrible and her push on MS is terrible.
I had her as weak scumread.

GuyInFreezer · Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:16 am

In post 3501, TiphaineDeath wrote:One: I'm a guy.
Two: Posting like this is not a scumtell, it's just a way to do shit.
Three: @bro Yes, MS is scum is scum is scum and given the strength of that read I see no reason in hell not to act upon it before giving the scum a perfect roadmap of night kills.

Explain the MS-scum again.

GuyInFreezer · Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:41 am

Here.
Touhou ftw

GuyInFreezer · Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:52 pm

I can see that SAD's posts are bad but how are those fluff?

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:47 am

So far since my read reset

MS ↑
TD ↓
Nacho ↨
SAD ↓
BRO ↨
Andrius ↑↑↑♫
Spinach ↨

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:49 pm

In post 3548, GuyInFreezer wrote:So far since my read reset

MS ↑
TD ↓
Nacho ↨
SAD ↓
BRO ↨
Andrius ↑↑↑♫
Spinach ↨

I expected someone to comment on this, but no one didn't :<

In post 3552, TiphaineDeath wrote:Hi andi, what do you think of my proposed scumteams?

MS=blue

Spinach/bro or Spinach/GIF as red?

No.

If spinach is scum, I think he's blue.

In post 3557, Nachomamma8 wrote:GiF still seems town, but I would love if he posted more.

Hi
Let's talk about spinach.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:51 pm

no one did*

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:51 pm

well MS did, but all he said was "cutie arrows"

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:57 pm

I agree that his "liar tells" are strong townmove. I was reading TMT's iso and his initial reads were bothering me a hell lot enough to cast doubt in my townread on him and since then I've been going back and forth on him regarding my read on him.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:00 pm

Oh Nacho.
I don't think you explained your readchange on MS.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:03 pm

Oh also thanks for clearing up my head a bit for me re: spinach.

This post alone was the most of the reason I had that slot as town:

In post 1031, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:GIF can you do me at the same time because we can do it in real time, we may not be on at the same time like this for a while

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:16 pm

Strange. That same game made me townread MS.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:23 pm

The same reason that you mentioned.

I agree that his reads looks bad (almost made me want to lunch him back then)
But his overall play still looks town.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:27 pm

For example, stuff like not willing to back down on his claim of ISOing TD's post and posting within a minute.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:37 pm

In post 3579, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3578, GuyInFreezer wrote:For example, stuff like not willing to back down on his claim of ISOing TD's post and posting within a minute.
If he backed down on that, he would look scummy as fuck, so the only viable route is to stick with the claim that he ISO'ed TD in a minute.

...oh.
I haven't thought about that.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:45 pm

In post 756, Metal Sonic wrote:24 hours and it is from page 1 to page 31

Damn it.

In post 757, Metal Sonic wrote:I skimmed the whole 700 page of wall

nacho town

freezerguy town

orc town

vassoon town

beautybeast town

mac town

tiphaine scum

sven troll

Skimmed 700 posts within 15 minutes and posted reads.

In post 1153, Metal Sonic wrote:god damn 16 pages in 8 hours

varsoon still town

cabd quite town

ghostlin leaning town

rach town

sajin leaning town

aj the epic leaning scum

broseidon leaning scum too i guess

In post 1388, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 1167, BROseidon wrote:@Metal: Do you have any reason for your anything? You've posted 0 in the way of thoughts so far.

I'll give reasons after the posting dies down. 50 pages(1000+ posts) in 72 hours, please no its torturous

2 getting scummier

aj leaning town now

ghostlin town

mac stil town

reverend a+ slip contradiction strong

beast leaning town

andrius town

also good luck with reading john or whoever had to read 50 pages

cabd and guy in freezer very town right now

In post 2089, Metal Sonic wrote:As for town,

I've already mentioned (multiple times)

Varsoon, Cabd, Nachomamma, GuyinFreezer for strong town

2, ghostlin, beauty, orc, andrius, mac, for town/probtown

Collecting his reads progression so far for analyzing later.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:47 pm

In post 1925, Metal Sonic wrote:andrius town

broseidon leaning town

ghoslin leaning town

2, nacho varsoon cabd strong town

Forgot this.

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:02 pm

Naaaaacho
I forgot how to table even after the amnesiac mafia
halp

GuyInFreezer · Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:20 pm

thanks.