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Ok well that's in the past now. It should be clear why it was pro-town to switch positions.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Of course you would be since its obvious you aren't basing it on anything other than gut anyway.hohum wrote:I'm dying of course, but I'm still happy with my cranston vote.
And yes that kind of play annoys me but w/e I can't like everyone's playstyle its just I have the maturity to think beyond that and not vote you b/c its obvious to me that you're town.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Even though I agree with you that Ho is a townie, he is in no way * confirmed * as you have asserted. Asmuch as I would like for him to be * confirmed * he is not.Stephoscope wrote:Mod: Does hohum die in two game days, or two real-life days?
All: Let's look at the bright side. We have a *confirmed townie* who's with us in the game for a little while longer. How can we use this to our advantage?[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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* facepalm *
So sorry at work.
Unfortunately, I can't think of any way he can help as confirmed town. It just means there is one less person we should be suspecting as Mafi...[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Bandwagon choices. They are all wrong atm.Stephoscope wrote:
The what?Lamont_Cranston wrote:On a side note, I don't like the BW choices for today. I hold them both as town. I recommend changing them.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Ok I was going to remain silent about this but I just got another PM which confirmed my suspicions.
The initial PM said that the shell was slightly warm to the touch.
This latest PM says that the shell is now much warmer and there is a faint odor of something burning.
I think I made a big mistake in picking it up...[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Yes. What is your alt?The Replacement wrote:Hello everyone.
I expect to get a good portion of the reading done by tomorrow night, but it could be likely that I won't get to all of it until sometime Saturday morning.
If there are any questions people would like to ask me before I start reading the thread for any reason, feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer those questions before I begin my reading tonight when I get off work.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Well I noticed the opportunistic inconsistency quite heavily. I guess I have a soft heart because I just melted into an inexperienced town read.zwetschenwasser wrote:This is the most annoying game to reread, but I'm done. I'm getting major scum vibes from Sironigous.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I noticed that too. I considered it a null-tell but your meta argument has intrigued me. Based on it I am willing to put him back on the table.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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LOL almost willing to wager on a OMGUS case! Your playstyle is so bad.hohum wrote:*GLARE* at zwet and to a lesser extent lynchmont for bringing meta into the discussion on page
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lamont == obvscum. I'm almost willing to wager on it at this point.
If I didn't know you were town (even before it was revealed by the Mod) I would definitely advocate your lynch fo such anti-town play. But that's the difference between me an you, I have the ability to look beyond my own personal opinion to see the facts. That's a pro-town way of playing. You should learn it.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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LOL ^^^ another brilliant argument.
No Pablo, it was through deductive reasoning that I came to the conclusion that Ho was town.
But that's the case against me fantastically brilliant arguments like that. 9.9[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Well, first of all the idea that somehow because I'm scum I'm going to come out and say "Hohum is def town" having gained this knowledge because I'm scum is so stupid its not even worth consideration.
However, because for some reason this crazy idea seems to have some traction (why I cannot fathom), my deductions stemmed from his elixir policy.
Scumprobablywould not advocate no-use AND scum would NOT drink.
Now before some genius shouts out "WIFOM!! LOL!!! YUK YUK!", don't forget that your own brain is WIFOM and leave me alone -- the percentages are in my favor here and it is thus I declared him village in advance of it being revealed.
If he would use the same deductive reasoning regarding my views then he wouldn't be able to advocate my lynch but because he is allowing emotion and ego to cloud his judgement, he is blinded.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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No I, like you, did not want it to be used and for the same reasons.
However, Xtoxm's theory (also held by Tajo & AJ) took a higher precedence. Granted, there were some problems in implementing that theory due to potential abuse but it was ultimately best for the town to have it used ONLY on D1 and ONLY until a positive effect could be proven.
I am back lock step with you that further such items should NOT be used.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I'm sure you think this is funny which is another annoying feature of your lazy playstyle -- you take pleasure in just throwing out lame arguments to watch people flail around while you put out no effort yourself; its so anti-town because crap arguments hurt the town (which is why they are seen as scummy).
And obviously your case against me is OMGUS because you have zero evidence against me other than I agreed with a logical position of yours and you het my playstyle. 9.9
I would expect higher quality play from you instead of this laziness; it really annoys me and it hurts the town but I don't expect you to listen because you're having too much fun not caring about the town anyway.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Sorry but it was you who didn't answer.Stephoscope wrote:As for withholding my vote...we have plenty of time, why vote until we have all the information (i.e. what the drink did and who was affected by it)? Although I think eventually I gave in once Lamont wouldn't answer the question about the devil smiley.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Stephoscope wrote:
I answered you a mere five minutes later.Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Sorry but it was you who didn't answer.Stephoscope wrote:As for withholding my vote...we have plenty of time, why vote until we have all the information (i.e. what the drink did and who was affected by it)? Although I think eventually I gave in once Lamont wouldn't answer the question about the devil smiley.
Nope sorry you didn't.Lamont_Cranston wrote:Steph until you give me a reason why I should do such a silly think you can put your vote wherever you want. That's a silly reason to vote anyone and I won't be held responsible for it.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I didn't even think. I saw it got totally excited and grabbed it. Of course NOW I realize wat a dumbsh*t thing it was to do.Naomi_Saotome wrote:Oh dear, it looks like that shell's going to be bad news...
Lamont why did you pick up the shell?[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Just got another PM. I have to keep moving the shell around to avoid getting burned. The burning smell is stronger, like sulphur.
Sorry I don't really feel the Steph vote. Obviously her reason for voting me is crap but other than that I don't see any scummy moves from her.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I have found your logic confusing so far in this game.Sajin wrote:Lamont- I find your comments of what scum would do to in such and such circumstance scummy regardless of how they apply to your previous statements and claims. Your also trying to sow confusion and doubt in almost every argument.
Most likelyscum will want the damage of using an item in this game to fall to the village (hopefully a PR) ANDalmost certainlythey will not want any damage to befall themselves and thus will not drink.
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WTH are you talking about!? Wat kind of crazy bullsh*t argument is this?? I have to promise not to hit a key so you won't vote me!?Stephoscope wrote:
Yes I did. There is no pro-town reason for you not to promise to avoid the devil sign, as I can't imagine a pro-town role having to post the devil sign. So, your refusal to make that promise leads me to assume you are scum who has to use the sign as part of his role.Lamont_Cranston wrote: Nope sorry you didn't.
Is this kiddie mafia!??
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At first I wasn't sure why it was heating. Now I think its clear its not good, especially with the sulphur smell.The Replacement wrote:Lamont_Cranston wrote:Ok I was going to remain silent about this but I just got another PM which confirmed my suspicions.
The initial PM said that the shell was slightly warm to the touch.
This latest PM says that the shell is now much warmer and there is a faint odor of something burning.
I think I made a big mistake in picking it up...Why were you going to remain silent about it?[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Sorry. See the posts that follow. I respoond specifically to each argument when he puts them in a more user friendly format.Alabaska J wrote:
this post reeks of scumminessLamont_Cranston wrote:@Amished: Your post wall has many errors concerning me. My position on the elixir has directly mirrored yours so your argument there as much implicates you as me.
If I was to respond to the post wall it would be unnecessarily huge.
Hohum's attack on me is crap. He has a really bad playstyle. I understand the other two votes as I mentioned both of them on my elixir analysis; basically revenge voites.
For the record, I have abandoned the elixir analysis as it is too confusing an issue to be usable.
Lynching me D1 is epic village fail here.
Its a crapo attack based my supposed following of other people when it was obvious I did no such thing (not anymore than any of the other pro-town players).
It is escpecially bad because there are several players that clearly did so in actuality; however I only find one of them potentially scummy which is. I am waiting for more on his meta from Zwet.Sironi[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Well lets say you are right and everyone is enthralled with your wonderful argument...
I will promise not to use it if:
1) You promise to bring that stupid argument up again
2) Provide some real analysis on someone towards actually catching SCUM today
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No. This is the fallacy of your argument. You either promise not to bring it up again and really scumhunt if you want to me to make any kind of promise.
This is just a thinly veiled attempt on your part to justify your vote on an otherwise baseless lynch case.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:
1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so
Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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So,Stephoscope wrote:
Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?Lamont_Cranston wrote:LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:
1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so
Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.
Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley, did you want to promise:
1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today
hmmmm?
Because otherwise ur just trying to come up with a cheap excuse for a lynch vote.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I have received no information on its use only (originally) that it appeared to be an ordinary shell that was just warm to the touch.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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There were no instructions for giving it away. I have PM'ed the Mod.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I just got another PM. I'm not allowed to drop or transfer the shell. There is some kind of magnetic power that it is holding it to me.
I am starting to get burns on my flesh and the sulphur smell is getting worse.
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I don't really see your case on Naomi. What do you think aboutSironifor opportunistic inconsistency or at leastNuevafor majorly lurking?[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Dewd, you don't understand. YOU have a crap argument. You either come across with mutual promises are you suffer with your crap argument.Stephoscope wrote:
You are in no position to try and negotiate right now. I'm not going to set myself up to be accused that my "analysis" is not "serious" by someone who I don't trust.Lamont_Cranston wrote:
So,Stephoscope wrote:
Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?Lamont_Cranston wrote:LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:
1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so
Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.
Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley, did you want to promise:
1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today
hmmmm?
Because otherwise ur just trying to come up with a cheap excuse for a lynch vote.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Now Zwet supposedly has meta onSironithat says he's scum here.
Otherwise, in my book there is only Pablo. I really het rolefishing and he wanted to havefunwith the elixir... 9.9[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Well then, choosing popularity over substance. If it makes you feel better, you have at it but you can't hold ME responsible -- I tried to let you out of the crap, you just refused to leave it.Stephoscope wrote:
Whatever. Even the player who supposedly thinks I'm scummy has no problem with my argument. It's fine, my vote will stand.Lamont_Cranston wrote:
Dewd, you don't understand. YOU have a crap argument. You either come across with mutual promises are you suffer with your crap argument.Stephoscope wrote:
You are in no position to try and negotiate right now. I'm not going to set myself up to be accused that my "analysis" is not "serious" by someone who I don't trust.Lamont_Cranston wrote:
So,Stephoscope wrote:
Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?Lamont_Cranston wrote:LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:
1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so
Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.
Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley, did you want to promise:
1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today
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Quit whining. If you're so obsessed over some stupid smiley idea then just promise not to bring up the stupid crap anymore and start doing some real game analysis. Whining doesn't help anything.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Oh I see. I'm inclined to believe you over him.Xtoxm wrote:I glanced through at Sir, I really don't get a feel either way yet.
I have no reason to trust Zwet's opinion, in the game I played with him, I don't think any of his suspects were scum. No offense.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I agree with the newb part but I don't get the scum part. However, if you apply the same analysis toXtoxm wrote:Well it's not exactly a case as such, she simply looked like newbie scum to me, and clearly I was not the only one to hold this opinion. I did not make a case against her, the others simply shared the same thoughts.
I haven't noticed anything scummy from Nueva. Admittedly, I haven't really noticed him at all. But he says he has exams, I have exams atm too, and I know how tough it is, it can really impede on your games (and i'm justaskingto fail, seeing as I have an exam tomorrow...Ugh, need more motivation...). So i'm happy to let that slide.
Sir, i've played with before. He was town, and I read him as such, but a lot of people thought he was scum. That seems to be happening here too. I don't have much of a read on him yet tbh.SironiI think it holds more merit.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Fine. You use crapologic attacks, you suffer the results. I already understand you chose not to listen.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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You know they say that spies are caught more often by them already believing they were caught when no suspicion was actually on them -- they act out which is actually the cause of them getting caught.Xtoxm wrote:I glanced through at Sir, I really don't get a feel either way yet.
I have no reason to trust Zwet's opinion, in the game I played with him, I don't think any of his suspects were scum. No offense.
This is the "better" case I have onSironiapplying the same logic as you have on Naomi. See, he constantly changed his viewswithoutany voting pressure whereas Naomi seemed to just panic and lose control under voting pressure, whereas before that pressure she sounded logical and fine. I think that's the major difference here and it's why I lean more towards newb-scum onSironiand newb-town on Naomi.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Interesting question. Of course its a trick question.Sajin wrote:
I think Steph vote was unreasonable when first placed. But why are you so resistant on not using said symbol?Lamont_Cranston wrote:Fine. You use crapologic attacks, you suffer the results. I already understand you chose not to listen.
"If you answer a fool according to his ways, you become like unto him"
I'm resistant to a crapologic argument which has no merit. She is unwilling to make the least concession that would allow me to accept her argument, therefore she must suffer the results. I tried to help her, she just wouldn't listen.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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He is almost a lurker. Add that to my list of grievances. He is my number one lynch.Xtoxm wrote:For some reason I thought the other wagon was on Sir, not PM. I'm not sure what I think of PM, I can take a look.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Well that's only because you led the way on a pro-town view which I had never considered. As soon as I saw it I agreed my view was flawed.
CORRECTION: PM volunteered to drink the elixir LATE. My position has been that he adopted that position as a cover.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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NO -- you took FOREVER to finally come around and volunteer. I know because I took notes. You had plenty of opportunity to volunteer before that but waited until after it was in vogue.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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LOL whoops. I was so blinded by his name this whole time I thought he was female. Oh my I'm so sorry.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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This is pointing to Pablo, not you SironiSironi wrote:Lamont wrote:
He is almost a lurker. Add that to my list of grievances. He is my number one lynch.
Er, if you noticed, I didn't post in any of my games except the very small one I was in...[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Ok, I just did a re-read starting from when Ho came back (approx pg. 27). I see more your argument against Stepho. It is a more subtle scum-tell related argument. I will do an isolation on stepho as some of his defense can be tracked back to his earlier behavior. I am sensing a contradiction here but I need to verify it.The Replacement wrote:
On the contrary, I find you more suspicious because of your explanations and reasons that you give. The fact that you stated on more than one occasion that it was your intention not to vote until something specific had passed is what I find scummy. Unless you thought it would be impossible to form suspicions until after, I see no reason why you would declare that you wouldn't be voting. No one else claimed that they wouldn't be voting like you did.Stephoscope wrote:Well, whether or not you agreed with my thinking (and you do make some good points), you might try being suspicious of people who withheld their votes or were wishy-washy about themwithout clearly explaining themselves every step of the waylike I did, but whatever.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Before the drink was consumed:
The point is that, more often than not, scumhunting is unsuccessful before anything really happens in the game. On Day One, unless something like this comes up, all there is is talking...and it has been my experience that the player acting scummiest is usually just a townie playing poorly that everyone can justify lynching. I am looking past the arguments of what the drink may or may not do to any one player, and looking at the big picture of more effective scumhunting starting right now.
and after the drink was consumed:
Completely clear, no contradictions, a perfect defense.I agree we should be careful with voting until we understand what the drink did. I for one will not be casting any vote until we find out what the effects were, or when it becomes very clear that we're not going to.
As for withholding my vote...we have plenty of time, why vote until we have all the information (i.e. what the drink did and who was affected by it)? Although I think eventually I gave in once Lamont wouldn't answer the question about the devil smiley.
While you make some good points here about voting and why scum would be reluctant to do it, I have already placed my vote and explained exactly why...so don't accuse me of wanting to sit back and wait for a wagon, because that's not what I did.
I just wanted to make sure we figured out what was going on with the drink before we complicated things with voting...and I wanted to make sure our eventual lynch would be an informed one, with the knowledge of what (if anything) the drink had done.
Well, I've provided several reasons: I thought it would be best to concentrate on the drink issue and have everyone participate before muddying the waters with votes flying around, and I did not want a lynch to put an end to the day without knowing what was going on with the drink. Also, if I were trying to get away with something, I would not have announced it and then have suspicions such as yours come up. Perhaps I should have handled things differently, but that doesn't mean I'm scummy.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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Even if I was allowed to give it away I wouldn't. Based on how the first item worked and how this one is looking, I don't expect to be any volunteers either.[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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I just got another PM. I am now writhing on the ground screaming in pain.
Set's argument does look stronger on stepho & now that I think of it, Replace did briefly mention the "covering tracks" angle.
I know am now willing to admit that Stepho could be scum here.
Two other BW choices in my book:
1) Pablo -- Rolefishing & having "fun" with the elixir.
2) Nueva Vida -- Semi-lurking i.e. no post content
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Btw, I have already stated that I am not happy with the Naomi vote. I consider it anti-town as I see her as inexperienced village.
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Lamont_Cranston wrote:Set's argument does look stronger on stepho & now that I think of it, Replace did briefly mention the "covering tracks" angle.
I know am now willing to admit that Stepho could be scum here.
Two other BW choices in my book:
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2) Nueva Vida -- Semi-lurking i.e. no post content
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Unfortunately at this point I have to scream with every post.
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I just did the math on Pablo & nobody seems up for a lurker lynch so:The Replacement wrote:
A quick lynch? Do you realize there are less than two days before deadline and anything less than ten votes for one player will result in a No Lynch? If Lamont_Cranston isn't the lynch today then we don't even have half the number of required votes yet to lynch anyone today.Nyx wrote:
Yes.The Replacement wrote:
Were prods sent out?
I don't like how you're pressuring people to just vote. Sounds to much as forcing a quick lynch IMO.
As for the current events. Since Lamont is more likely to be dieing if I may presume that there's no need to lynch him. I find the case on Naomi and Steph very weak.
So for now
vote:The Replacement
For above said argument.
Unvote, Vote Stepho
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You cannot really believe that we'd see this as a pro-town point of view, can you? Rationalizing a theory (through bad logic) based on the result is an incredibly weak reason to give somebody pro-town points. I would further argue that it's helped the town much much much more than it hurt it. We have Hohum for 2 game days, and we know he's confirmed town; so your initial point is flawed from the get-go.Lamont_Cranston in 775 wrote:Even though the item HAS hurt the town, it was necessary to prove your theory right or wrong. So I hold your theory as pro-town Xtoxm.This is so hilarious as it is the SAME view you adopted!! Omgosh, I can't believe how bad your logic has become lately...[i]Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?[/i] [url=http://www.braingle.com/community/wiki.php?user=Lamont_Cranston&page=ms_wiki]Wiki[/url]
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