The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

ARRRGH!

[Amished]

Even though the item HAS hurt the town, it was necessary to prove your theory right or wrong. So I hold your theory as pro-town Xtoxm.

You cannot really believe that we'd see this as a pro-town point of view, can you? Rationalizing a theory (through bad logic) based on the result is an incredibly weak reason to give somebody pro-town points. I would further argue that it's helped the town much much much more than it hurt it. We have Hohum for 2 game days, and we know he's confirmed town; so your initial point is flawed from the get-go.

This is so hilarious as it is the SAME view you adopted!! Omgosh, I can't believe how bad your logic has become lately...

Bullshit that's the same viewpoint that I adopted. The way you wrote it said that it was a pro-town because it PROVED HIS THEORY RIGHT. I hold that it is and was pro-town before the effect, and that it helped the town much more than it hurt it. We now have a confirmed role without losing said role (much better than a claim). I also am of the stance that using the one item has proven his (xtoxm's?) theory about a battle of the items. One data point will never prove shit. Come up with a better theory about my viewpoint next time. Maybe a correct one.

Also, I outlined why Naomi is the one that I'm voting, and deadline situations like this (closest was L-5, which was Lamont) necessarily make my requirements for putting a vote on anybody much much lower. We NEED the information for a lynch, and she's the only one that had any significant amount of votes on her that I agreed with (that I don't hope will die due to the shell, or have an other significant effect).

Yes, Naomi, you should claim your role. Be it just plain innocent or whatever, we need to know what role you have in the game.

[Naomi_Saotome]

Well, it's going to make things really interesting to say the least...

[Amished]

This isn't helping. Two of us (at least) are watching the thread very closely right now and if zwet is right, it *can* either lead to you being lynched or being at L-2. Or it'll just stay with you being at L-1.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Naomi, you are at L-1 please claim your role if you fel it is an important one in any way.

[Lamont_Cranston]

ARRRGH!

[Naomi_Saotome]

You think there's much of a chance anyone else will be waying in before the deadline tonight?

Claim Trilby

[Amished]

What are your powers if you are indeed Trilby?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Even though the item HAS hurt the town, it was necessary to prove your theory right or wrong. So I hold your theory as pro-town Xtoxm.

You cannot really believe that we'd see this as a pro-town point of view, can you? Rationalizing a theory (through bad logic) based on the result is an incredibly weak reason to give somebody pro-town points. I would further argue that it's helped the town much much much more than it hurt it. We have Hohum for 2 game days, and we know he's confirmed town; so your initial point is flawed from the get-go.

This is so hilarious as it is the SAME view you adopted!! Omgosh, I can't believe how bad your logic has become lately...

Bullshit that's the same viewpoint that I adopted. The way you wrote it said that it was a pro-town because it PROVED HIS THEORY RIGHT.

Does anyone understand what the hell he is trying to say here. As usual with most every one one of his arguments against me, this makes no sense.

ARRRGH!

[Lamont_Cranston]

OK WE NEED PEOPLE OFF HER OR A CC NAO!

If this claim is true the

Stepho

lynch is looking good about now.

ARRRGH!

[Amished]

You said your 775 is the same viewpoint that I held. It is not the same as you put forth in 775 because I view it to be pro-town for different reasons than you do, and I further argue that your 775 "logic" is flawed.

1) Explain how using one item proves Xtoxm's theory.
2) I think that the item (while could've been better placed) still helped the town more than it hurt it that you stated in 775.

I can't get much simpler than that for you.

[Xtoxm]

That doesn't mean anything to me. And it's not a role claim.

[Amished]

I want Naomi to paraphrase what her powers are. I will revote her if I don't think it's that believable, but I do want to hear what she has to say.

Unvote

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote

This is badbadbadbadbad...

[Lamont_Cranston]

You said your 775 is the same viewpoint that I held. It is not the same as you put forth in 775 because I view it to be pro-town for different reasons than you do, and I further argue that your 775 "logic" is flawed.

1) Explain how using one item proves Xtoxm's theory.
2) I think that the item (while could've been better placed) still helped the town more than it hurt it that you stated in 775.

I can't get much simpler than that for you.

Dewd as usual with your arguments about me you are totally confused. He was pro-town for suggesting the idea and it doesn't matter what the item actually did the idea remains a pro-town idea. Thats why YOU AND ME switched to his dam idea. WAT R U THIK!?

Man I wish you would go back to your logical self already.

ARRRGH!

[Naomi_Saotome]

What are your powers if you are indeed Trilby?

I will give more only if more requests are made

[Lamont_Cranston]

This is so excellent info for the village. I am loving this.

ARRRGH!

[Lamont_Cranston]

What are your powers if you are indeed Trilby?

I will give more only if more requests are made

Sorry Naomi but soft claims are not allowed you must make the full claim.

ARRRGH!

[Xtoxm]

Unvote, Vote Steph

[zwetschenwasser]

What are your powers if you are indeed Trilby?

I will give more only if more requests are made

HURRY UP AND TELL US WHAT YOU CAN DO! We've only got a day until deadline!

[Stephoscope]

How surprising, the absolute easiest role to fakeclaim. And look--Lamont's calling to give away the real Trilby, or lynch me, either of which would be bad!

(Yes, there's a chance Naomi's claim is legit, but it's a very small one in my opinion. 19 players in the game, and the obvious fakeclaim for anyone who's done a bit of research just so happens to come up first)

[Xtoxm]

She's really not going about this claim in a way I would expect scum to.

[Lamont_Cranston]

How surprising, the absolute easiest role to fakeclaim. And look--Lamont's calling to give away the real Trilby, or lynch me, either of which would be bad!

(Yes, there's a chance Naomi's claim is legit, but it's a very small one in my opinion. 19 players in the game, and the obvious fakeclaim for anyone who's done a bit of research just so happens to come up first)

You seem to forget that the chances of Trilby ACTUALLY being in this game are VERY high.

ARRRGH!

[Naomi_Saotome]

Yes I know lamont, but there are some things I don't trust, I wanted more people to way in...

But with the truth out there it might be easier to find the real scum....

Trilby power's are Immune to night kill

[Stephoscope]

How surprising, the absolute easiest role to fakeclaim. And look--Lamont's calling to give away the real Trilby, or lynch me, either of which would be bad!

(Yes, there's a chance Naomi's claim is legit, but it's a very small one in my opinion. 19 players in the game, and the obvious fakeclaim for anyone who's done a bit of research just so happens to come up first)

You seem to forget that the chances of Trilby ACTUALLY being in this game are VERY high.

ARRRGH!

Do I? That's actually the crux of my argument. Players are believing her, she's hoping to get the real Trilby to come out, and you are actually encouraging that.