The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

I just got another PM. I'm not allowed to drop or transfer the shell. There is some kind of magnetic power that it is holding it to me.

I am starting to get burns on my flesh and the sulphur smell is getting worse.

ithurtsithurtsithurts

[Xtoxm]

Right. That means we can't control this item, so we should just wait it out and see what happens. This is probably one of the dud's I was talking about.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 59#1673059

[Xtoxm]

It makes sense that the first item is good, and the second bad.

(I maintain the decanter was a good item. If used correctly, it was a second lynch for the town.)

[Stephoscope]

LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:

1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so

Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.

Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?

Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)

So,

if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley

, did you want to promise:

1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today

hmmmm?

Because otherwise ur just trying to come up with a cheap excuse for a lynch vote.

You are in no position to try and negotiate right now. I'm not going to set myself up to be accused that my "analysis" is not "serious" by someone who I don't trust.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I don't really see your case on Naomi. What do you think about

Sironi

for opportunistic inconsistency or at least

Nueva

for majorly lurking?

[Lamont_Cranston]

The above post is @Xtoxm

[Lamont_Cranston]

LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:

1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so

Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.

Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?

Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)

So,

if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley

, did you want to promise:

1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today

hmmmm?

Because otherwise ur just trying to come up with a cheap excuse for a lynch vote.

You are in no position to try and negotiate right now. I'm not going to set myself up to be accused that my "analysis" is not "serious" by someone who I don't trust.

Dewd, you don't understand. YOU have a crap argument. You either come across with mutual promises are you suffer with your crap argument.

[Xtoxm]

Well it's not exactly a case as such, she simply looked like newbie scum to me, and clearly I was not the only one to hold this opinion. I did not make a case against her, the others simply shared the same thoughts.

I haven't noticed anything scummy from Nueva. Admittedly, I haven't really noticed him at all. But he says he has exams, I have exams atm too, and I know how tough it is, it can really impede on your games (and i'm just

asking

to fail, seeing as I have an exam tomorrow...Ugh, need more motivation...). So i'm happy to let that slide.

Sir, i've played with before. He was town, and I read him as such, but a lot of people thought he was scum. That seems to be happening here too. I don't have much of a read on him yet tbh.

[Stephoscope]

LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:

1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so

Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.

Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?

Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)

So,

if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley

, did you want to promise:

1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today

hmmmm?

Because otherwise ur just trying to come up with a cheap excuse for a lynch vote.

You are in no position to try and negotiate right now. I'm not going to set myself up to be accused that my "analysis" is not "serious" by someone who I don't trust.

Dewd, you don't understand. YOU have a crap argument. You either come across with mutual promises are you suffer with your crap argument.

Whatever. Even the player who supposedly thinks I'm scummy has no problem with my argument. It's fine, my vote will stand.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Now Zwet supposedly has meta on

Sironi

that says he's scum here.

Otherwise, in my book there is only Pablo. I really het rolefishing and he wanted to have

fun

with the elixir... 9.9

[Xtoxm]

I just checked Nueva. He's not lurking as hard as you imply. And his isolation 9 looks pro-town to me.

Steph - Your argument

is

crap. I fail to see how you believe something so absurd enough to bring it up.

[Lamont_Cranston]

LOL. Fine if that makes you feel justified then you can know that:

1) You advocated a total crap, baseless and childish reason for my lynch
2) Refused to back away from it when given a legitimate opportunity to do so

Based on the above, I cannot be held responsible for your actions.

Did you want to promise you won't use the devil sign any more?

Because if not, let it be noted that you're avoiding the very simple thing I asked of you, whilst trying very hard to demean my character (I'm "baseless" and "childish" for demanding you prove you're not sworn to the devil horns? ok!)

So,

if you want me to promise not to use that stupid smiley

, did you want to promise:

1) Not to bring up that dumb argument ever again
2) Provide some serious analysis to actually find scum today

hmmmm?

Because otherwise ur just trying to come up with a cheap excuse for a lynch vote.

You are in no position to try and negotiate right now. I'm not going to set myself up to be accused that my "analysis" is not "serious" by someone who I don't trust.

Dewd, you don't understand. YOU have a crap argument. You either come across with mutual promises are you suffer with your crap argument.

Whatever. Even the player who supposedly thinks I'm scummy has no problem with my argument. It's fine, my vote will stand.

Well then, choosing popularity over substance. If it makes you feel better, you have at it but you can't hold ME responsible -- I tried to let you out of the crap, you just refused to leave it.

[Stephoscope]

I just checked Nueva. He's not lurking as hard as you imply. And his isolation 9 looks pro-town to me.

Steph - Your argument

is

crap. I fail to see how you believe something so absurd enough to bring it up.

What's absurd is that he won't say "OK, I see how the devil sign might be suspicious given that scum has been forced to use it before...I won't use it any longer."

Instead, he's trying to use the opportunity to make me commit to his arbitrary analysis of my gameplay.

[Xtoxm]

I glanced through at Sir, I really don't get a feel either way yet.

I have no reason to trust Zwet's opinion, in the game I played with him, I don't think any of his suspects were scum. No offense.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Quit whining. If you're so obsessed over some stupid smiley idea then just promise not to bring up the stupid crap anymore and start doing some real game analysis. Whining doesn't help anything.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I glanced through at Sir, I really don't get a feel either way yet.

I have no reason to trust Zwet's opinion, in the game I played with him, I don't think any of his suspects were scum. No offense.

Oh I see. I'm inclined to believe you over him.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Well it's not exactly a case as such, she simply looked like newbie scum to me, and clearly I was not the only one to hold this opinion. I did not make a case against her, the others simply shared the same thoughts.

I haven't noticed anything scummy from Nueva. Admittedly, I haven't really noticed him at all. But he says he has exams, I have exams atm too, and I know how tough it is, it can really impede on your games (and i'm just

asking

to fail, seeing as I have an exam tomorrow...Ugh, need more motivation...). So i'm happy to let that slide.

Sir, i've played with before. He was town, and I read him as such, but a lot of people thought he was scum. That seems to be happening here too. I don't have much of a read on him yet tbh.

I agree with the newb part but I don't get the scum part. However, if you apply the same analysis to

Sironi

I think it holds more merit.

[Stephoscope]

Quit whining. If you're so obsessed over some stupid smiley idea then just promise not to bring up the stupid crap anymore and start doing some real game analysis. Whining doesn't help anything.

No one's whining. If you won't promise not to use it, you get my vote. It's as simple as that, and I'm not interested in negotiating, nor listening to your contrived analysis of my gameplay.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Fine. You use crapologic attacks, you suffer the results. I already understand you chose not to listen.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I glanced through at Sir, I really don't get a feel either way yet.

I have no reason to trust Zwet's opinion, in the game I played with him, I don't think any of his suspects were scum. No offense.

You know they say that spies are caught more often by them already believing they were caught when no suspicion was actually on them -- they act out which is actually the cause of them getting caught.

This is the "better" case I have on

Sironi

applying the same logic as you have on Naomi. See, he constantly changed his views

without

any voting pressure whereas Naomi seemed to just panic and lose control under voting pressure, whereas before that pressure she sounded logical and fine. I think that's the major difference here and it's why I lean more towards newb-scum on

Sironi

and newb-town on Naomi.

[Sajin]

Fine. You use crapologic attacks, you suffer the results. I already understand you chose not to listen.

I think Steph vote was unreasonable when first placed. But why are you so resistant on not using said symbol?

[Xtoxm]

Well, Sironigous isn't new. He's been around a while now.

It's was Naomi's actions before the pressure that I picked up on.

[Xtoxm]

Ok, well Naomi's more recent posts have looked better. But I see no reason to change my vote; neither of the other wagons appeal to me particularly.

[Xtoxm]

For some reason I thought the other wagon was on Sir, not PM. I'm not sure what I think of PM, I can take a look.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Fine. You use crapologic attacks, you suffer the results. I already understand you chose not to listen.

I think Steph vote was unreasonable when first placed. But why are you so resistant on not using said symbol?

Interesting question. Of course its a trick question.

"If you answer a fool according to his ways, you become like unto him"

I'm resistant to a crapologic argument which has no merit. She is unwilling to make the least concession that would allow me to accept her argument, therefore she must suffer the results. I tried to help her, she just wouldn't listen.