I'm still waiting on someone... idk, maybe you. To point out why this is busing rather than TvS or TvT?In post 5029, Generic wrote:your attempt to bus your teammate?
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Because I've been technically absent from the game for most of D2?In post 5031, Generic wrote:Why question this now when it was proven?
The way he pushed people in Marketplace Mafia it's way different than here, if it's other game then idk what you're talking about.
On the one hand both Nacho and Thor are a very strong asset to town if they are town, so I can see scum going for this possibility to get them mislynched.
On the other hand if they're scum they'll live for a long while and eventually they'll leave traces.
If they want to bus their partners let them do it? We get a scum flip anyway.
If they are town then they'll also find scum coz both Thor and Nacho are pretty strong players.
I don't see any reason for them to be lynched today.I bloom in spring?
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I disagree.In post 5034, Bert wrote:Sakura, Desperado is an asset to town if town too.
Or at least i never seen him do anything useful here or in Oz.I bloom in spring?
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I've seen the Nacho factor in this game before, so idk what Generic's going on about.
He might as well be the one who's busing Des and depcting you as busing so he can easily trade Desp for you in a way to take down a strong town player.
Tho first i'd need to see Desp flip.I bloom in spring?
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What do you make of SC's flip and the people that were voting them?In post 5113, zMuffinMan wrote:i kinda just want some flips to sort out where i'm right or wrong atm
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So I guess Bert now disagrees with this:In post 5034, Bert wrote:Sakura, Desperado is an asset to town if town too.I bloom in spring?
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What do you think about Desp doing nothing, and not even trying to push my lynch despite me being his strongest scumread?In post 5152, DOMO wrote:Casso would be an asset if they were town. I'm not feeling casso as a huge asset right now. I wonder why that is?
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If you were really town and you were really scumreading me you'd keep trying to convince town why im scum and why everything i've done is fake.In post 5169, Desperado wrote:
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What do you think about Desp doing nothing, and not even trying to push my lynch despite me being his strongest scumread?In post 5152, DOMO wrote:Casso would be an asset if they were town. I'm not feeling casso as a huge asset right now. I wonder why that is?
PEd. Who's still pushing for that scumslip?
what could would pushing your lynch have done this day? i would have been sitting by myself all lonely and bored voting a single-vote wagon
i'm pretty sure i already explained this once
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This is actually a good idea, that way I get less games to focus on, and Nacho lives.In post 5193, DOMO wrote:I'm actually thinking we should speedlynch sakura.I bloom in spring?
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Oh? I thought you wanted to speedlynch me today?
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That, plus the fact that Nacho's a much better scumhunter than me.In post 5229, DOMO wrote:Why? Are you that sure casso is town that you're willing to go down instead of him?I bloom in spring?
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You've pretty well managed to decipher what my feelings and plans were when i made those actions im impressed.In post 5254, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:@ Sakura, do you believe my analysis of your meta is accurate? What are your thoughts about it?I bloom in spring?
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This kind of discussion is really unsettling, if you want to find out my alignment then why not just lynch me and find out? It's not like I'm doing anything to convince you otherwise.
I am aware of my meta, but my emotions just go high wire in discussions like these, which is why I initially tried to become less emotional, with that failing and the trust tell becoming stronger i pretty much have no other option other than to quit mafia so I stop ruining games for others...
The other option would have been to break the trust tell by doing it as scum, unfortunately it was too late, I tried something already in Ace Attorney but i couldnt get my feelings to come out believable, all in all it's better for me to just stop.I bloom in spring?
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I'm starting to think that Bert is scumIn post 5266, Bert wrote:awwwwwwwwwww
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Casso's town, if you wanna lynch town today lynch me instead.In post 5292, zMuffinMan wrote:can we just lynch casso today?I bloom in spring?
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I did the same before, why didn't you question it, yet you question Cephrir's motives?In post 5309, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:This reads as so manipulative. You CANNOT be so certain that Nacho is town that you are willing to get lynched in his place. Nacho is a good scum player. There will always be uncertainty and paranoia. Even ffery who can read him like a book isn't certain of his affiliation.I bloom in spring?
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FTFM
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Wait what? Last I heard you said:In post 5335, DOMO wrote:I briefly considered hammeringIn post 5308, DOMO wrote:I'm not going to oppose a hammer but I expect a town flip soI'm not hammering.I bloom in spring?
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I haven't read everything since day start yet, I just thought of leaving that there since I couldn't post it yesterday.In post 5551, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Sakura, can you answer my questions?I bloom in spring?
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Actually I just ISO'd you to find it, since
I am not aware exactly how/when she does vote trajectories, In that game she said she only does it when replacing in, but did it anyway, at that point I was conf town so I thought that's why she did it, then it turned out she was scum, and also that was the only game i've had to ask her to do the trajectory analysis, so I thought not doing it on her own was part of her scum game.In post 5398, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Sakura, you clearly read that and are aware of ffery's reactions to being told what to do with meta/trajectories so I don't really understand your 3091.I bloom in spring?
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And you think I read every single post in Marketplace? That game was moving too fast for my liking and i left Nati all by himself, and even when I did read I skimmed and sometimes skipped pages.
Afair you had done trajectory analysis almost every solo game except on that one game where you were actually scum, which is why I thought it was a decent tell.
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If you refer to marketplace, Natirasha (The other head of the Harakiri hydra, and coincidentially the other head of geists) can tell you all about my apathetic feelings with that game in our hydra QT. If not then tell me what you're refering to.In post 5570, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I don't this is true. Can you substantiate it.
Back then the only other hydra of ffery i had played with was MTC, who always rolled scum for a long while, on AA I was scum and I already knew her alignment, and you could ask Cabd that I really thought one of the factors of ffery scum was that she didnt use trajectory analysis on that one newbie game when he asked me who i thought the scum was when i was NK'd.In post 5570, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, when confronted by evidence that ffery doesn't do trajectory analysis always as town, you qualify that statement saying now that she does it in solo games. So, why were you scumreading her in thisgame where she isn't playing solo?I bloom in spring?
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Because as I said, I made a mistake in thinking that's a tell, I was going entirely off that newbie game that i didnt bother to check anything else.In post 5581, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Secondly, I buy that during the Newbie game, you genuinely believed that you caught ffery on a scumtell of not providing trajectory analysis. But AA hapenned after the Newbie game. Did this alter your perception and make you update your meta tells? If not, why not? If so, why the scumread here? I see that you pointed out that you were scum in AA. Why would this stop you from updating the meta-tells you have?I bloom in spring?
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There was this one game where she said that it's how she scumhunts but she always got scumread for keeping it to herself, or something like that.In post 5581, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:I was asking you to substantiate your statement that as far as you knew ffery had done trajectory analysis almost every solo game except on that one game where she was actually scum.I bloom in spring?
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wrt Bert, not only does his voting pattern this game look awkward but he's seen me AtE plenty of times before and he's always treated it like a super town tell, it's normally I who end up saying that I'd totally do it as scum and have to discredit it at least to a null tell due to me being unable to control my emotions regardless. In this game it seems i haven't had to do that since both Bert and ffery seem intent on trying to discredit, which makes me happy that people arent taking me as town for granted, but worries me because Bert never did that before, Cabd did it once as scum on We the purple and i dont recall if ffery did it or not but they are currently conftown, so it adds to my paranoia.I bloom in spring?
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And what do you think of F16's analisis of my AtE here and there?In post 5586, Bert wrote:Well, Sakura, you went AtE in AA and flipped scum.I bloom in spring?
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If he was town doc he'd be scumhunting right now instead of trolling.In post 5630, pieguyn wrote:first off I think what he meant by this was that we would be expecting SSK to be roleblocked if he really was town doc. so idk if this actually means anything in terms of alignmentI bloom in spring?
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Good to know that you have no intention of scumhunting then.In post 5639, MafiaSSK wrote:Two. There's no scumhunting there. I'm just dropping the whole cheese schtick.I bloom in spring?
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So these are Bert's current stances:
So I decided to go and look at his yesterday erratic voting pattern:In post 5657, Bert wrote:SAD I'm pretty sure is scum! Cephrir too! Also don't like Pie still! That's it!In post 5001, Bert wrote:Nachos to disingenuous in the past few pages
Vote: Casso
Kaboom. Lollapalooza
^In post 5135, Bert wrote:Vote: Desperado
Nacho's probably right about Desperado if Nacho's town.
Big IF though. Oh well.
This vote has got me thinking he was scumreading Casso, yet he votes Casso's scumread? Specially since it was a really big "IF" as he pointed it.In post 5171, Bert wrote:Desp is being pretty convincing compared to Casso today. Dang this game.
Vote: Casso
Hoppity Hop
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Goes back to Casso because he wants to see a happy GM?In post 5266, Bert wrote:awwwwwwwwwww
Vote: Casso
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or I'll be disappoint
bummed outta my mind
^In post 5337, Bert wrote:Yeah, I was already voting Desp and don't believe in fake hammers.
See my fake hammer:
Vote: Desperado
Guys, Desp just got totally hammered guys. Watch out. Sakura, this is like such a buss.
Get ready guys, this hammer is fake. Let's all fake hammer Desp for lulz.
I don't see why taunt me like that if he didn't know Desp was going to flip town?
And today we have:
Self-vote out of nowhere, and i don't know the purpose of it, i wouldn't be surprised if he did this as scum to appear town just by throwing the same kind of AtE I do, but idk =/In post 5434, Bert wrote:Be back later. I suggest leaving SSK alive as he doesn't need to be lynched until it's actually MYLO/LYLO. Wasting a lynch on him now is pretty pointless, we already know what he will flip. Try someone else that's suspicious so we have more info tomorrow.
Vote: Bert
We have plenty of time in the day, you're not happy with it, why not vote one of your scumreads then?In post 5492, Bert wrote:Vote: SSK
Not happy to be doing this, but giving in, as this lynch is pointless until MYLO/LYLO. More stories please....
I gotta admit I don't have much experience with these kind of analysis, but it's making me doubt that Bert is town...
Bert you're currently voting no one, why aren't you voting any of:In post 5657, Bert wrote:SAD I'm pretty sure is scum! Cephrir too! Also don't like Pie still! That's it!I bloom in spring?
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I had already regarded it as fake at first glance so i'll just keep thinking that then.In post 5707, Bert wrote:
I have experience to fall back on from being on this site so long, so no this AtE is not alignment indicative!!! You should disregard it or just judge it as being genuine/fake and go from there! Do you understand!In post 5703, Sakura Hana wrote:Self-vote out of nowhere, and i don't know the purpose of it, i wouldn't be surprised if he did this as scum to appear town just by throwing the same kind of AtE I do, but idk =/I bloom in spring?
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This part of you being Bert is what's bothering me the most, if it was this null I who have played multiple games with you wouldn't be making a fuss over it, don't you think? But since you're going into the self-meta then i'll bring some meta as well then.In post 5706, Bert wrote:Your argument on me is good, except I'm Bert! I'm impressed though!
Killing at the Frat Prob. the only game i've seen you as scum, your vote went everywhere during the whole game + general trolling.
Newbie 1436 Day 1: Your vote stayed on Cabd almost all day. Not trolling, instead you asked me why i thought Cabd was town, etc, etc, you were on GM for the other part and at the end voted TSO because deadline lynch. Day 2, your vote stays on Kaze for the majority of the day, switching to notscience at some point. Won't bring D3 since that's unfair considering it was LyLo and you were being voted by scum.
All in all tho, you do more trolling and more waffling without staying put on someone like on N1436 during my one experience with scum you.
The one doubt i have atm is you mentioning that this is your first time on a large and that you're having trouble keeping up.
This is all based on personal experience, feel free to bring other scumgames from you that prove otherwise.I bloom in spring?
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*Raises Hand*In post 5713, MC Maraca wrote:I'm around.
PSA: If anyone would like to flip out and get paranoid on my mason status now, given the events of mini 1531, speak now or forever hold your peace.
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This is different because the actual mason claimed masons with you, whereas here you're the one claiming to be masons with goodmorning, and that would be ballsy coz you'd need to know beforehand that she's a mason to pull it off, so no this doesn't affect my townread of you at all.In post 5715, MC Maraca wrote:I won by getting a mason to fakeclaim masons with me, nightkilled her before she could reveal the trick, and dominated. It's in coney island.I bloom in spring?
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Then why do you think they would?In post 5717, Generic wrote:Given it's not that similar, I have to question why you would volunteer this information.I bloom in spring?
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Oh also I forgot to ask:
Do you think SSK is town?In post 5706, Bert wrote:I am not voting anyone else because SSK is going to get lynched today and nothing I say or do will change that!I bloom in spring?
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Then why do you have an issue with SSK getting lynched today?In post 5721, Bert wrote:No, I think SSK is probably scum! If he's town, he's trolling town, but I think he's scum since he claimed to protect Bro last night which is BS! So he's scum!I bloom in spring?
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Does the fact that scum may have daychat as Cabd pointed out in D1 (or was it D2?) strengthen or weaken this?In post 5741, Generic wrote:But it's coincided with mr cheese suddenly stopping his trolling and you now seem to be weirdly inserting yourself into everything and being a lower level pain in the ass. And that is worrying.I bloom in spring?
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That's just Nero being Nero, he wanted me dead for the majority of FEA. All the time "Hana's scum" "We should lynch Hana"In post 5746, Bert wrote:Every post that Nero had mostly seemed to be "Is Bert dead yet' since Day 1
ftr Nero calls me Hana btw.I bloom in spring?
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In post 5910, KoreanBBQ wrote:@Everyone, who are the 3 most likely scum in this group?Casso the King of Seals
pieguyn
BROseidon
Norlkaz
Ser Arthur Dayne
zMuffinMan
Titus
There, I gave you 3 levels of strength in reads.I bloom in spring?
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Very slight lean scum, because i feel kinda meh about him. And by that I mean that I want to remember any significant he's done this game and i come up blank.In post 5918, geists wrote:How do you feel about Norlkaz?I bloom in spring?
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