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So your entire case hinges on a comment that Nacho made that was specifically referring to Wisdom?In post 100, Whiskers wrote:To rephrase,
This is when I first thought Nacho was going to "freak out" to look town.In post 35, Nachomamma8 wrote:NO NO NO NO NO
And then everybody (again, "everybody" is like, two people) went, "WHOA, HE SURE IS DEFENSIVE!" And I was like, "9___9 jeez you guys didn't anybody read this post (32)?"In post 32, Nachomamma8 wrote:if he was town he'd be panicking, calling me scum with whiskers, screaming his pretty little head off
Nacho wasn't saying "all town freaks out and gets defensive," he was saying that Wis should have been freaking out.-
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Because he was taking to Wisdom, yes, yes, yesIn post 120, Whiskers wrote:Why do you think this is a Wisdom-specific meta that Nacho is using? Have you played with Wisdom before? Do you agree that, him as town, would go all muppet-armed over being Random-Vote-Wagonned early Day 1? Do you agree with Nacho's meta of him?
None of this is even considering the laughable suggestion that Nacho would, as scum, telegraph his own future towntells in thread. That is pants on head retarded.
Is your scumteam Nacho, Mollie, ??? right now?-
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Grim, there's nothing out of the ordinary about mollie and arc mutually townreading each other that early. With that said, I think they would totally do that as scum too.
Mirari's #195...seriously? Grim is going to have an aneurysm when he sees that.
I don't think Wisdom is scum.
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It wasn't related to the quote, it was a re-sequitor to an earlier part of my conversation with Whiskers.In post 200, shos wrote:@Des 140: can you explain to me more what the hell 'telegraphing his own future towntells' means? I'm totally misunderstanding something or it's just bluntly unrelated to the quote?-
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Yup. I was letting their interaction play out.In post 200, shos wrote:and in 142 - do you think it's a legitimate reason to vote mala right now?
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Yeah--because I'm town and I'm seeing the same things you are.
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No, he clarified that he thinks Nacho is scum telegraphing towntells and then faking them.In post 228, penguin_alien wrote:I read it as Whiskers thinking Nacho wasn't defensive, not that he was pretending to be defensive. Why would scum-Whiskers engage in that way? I'm not seeing the scum motivation.-
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Yup. Which is the same thing I coached her on when we were both scum in Castle mafia.In post 246, Malakittens wrote:I disagree. She's still doing the similar post only when called upon thing that she did when she was scum in Manical (Mastin-NY)
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Why were you thinking of that when I specifically said I coached you on that in Castle?In post 284, penguin_alien wrote:Sorry, I was thinking of this:-
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hahahahaha whatIn post 470, Wisdom wrote:
I also don't like Desperado at all. I expected much more from him than just this. He is not scumhunting.In post 457, Desperado wrote:@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?
If you don't think I'm scumhunting the how about you shut the fuck up and leave me alone then?-
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Why is Whiskers scum?In post 485, pirate mollie wrote:
how does it look like sour grapesIn post 457, Desperado wrote:@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?-
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Because I clearly am scumhunting, and you bothering me about how I'm not isn't going to help either of usIn post 488, Wisdom wrote:
Umm, what?In post 486, Desperado wrote:
hahahahaha whatIn post 470, Wisdom wrote:
I also don't like Desperado at all. I expected much more from him than just this. He is not scumhunting.In post 457, Desperado wrote:@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?
If you don't think I'm scumhunting the how about you shut the fuck up and leave me alone then?
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I think your fake meltdown point is trash. I don't think Whiskers has been melting down at any point, she seems extremely confident in what she's pushing, and I think it's too dependent on other people who aren't Whiskers doing the same thing to you recently. "Fake scum meltdowns are a fad now" is not a reason to think someone is scum.In post 489, pirate mollie wrote:
the pissiness looks fake and it looks like she is trying to work at coming up with a reason as to why nacho is scum and I am not town scum reading nacho but if whiskers flips scum nacho is for sure town but to me it is more about the fake meltdownsIn post 487, Desperado wrote:
Why is Whiskers scum?In post 485, pirate mollie wrote:
how does it look like sour grapesIn post 457, Desperado wrote:@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?
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pssssstIn post 479, ooba wrote:A lot of (needless) hostility in this post and the one above. I can understand if you thought he was scum (some people get angry and are rude at scum suspects) - but this looks like you're trying to undermine\ridicule Wisdom.
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Like it really looks like Whiskers is being voted for being a big meanie and for not being one of the cool kids.
^Does no one understand that Whisker's "hostility" is related to feeling left out/threatened by a bunch of people who clearly know each other and are using tools that he can't given the circumstances?
You in particular, mollie, should have seen this. Whisker looks exactly like I looked in Maniacal.-
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Yup. Mollie is talking to Penguin like she is townreading her the biggest defense she mustered was against Mala, who wasn't even pushing Penguin that hard (and was getting heat at the time).
And none of mollie's pushes have made any sense at all. Wagonned Nacho during the defensive thing, wagoned Ooba for trolling, wagoned Whiskers for being mean.
Why are you townreading her?
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It's more like I don't think Whiskers is in a position to do anything about his conspiracy theory so I'm not worried about it right now.In post 499, Wisdom wrote:And you're okay with such nonsense. You're not this stupid.-
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No she isn't. I caught ETL red handed and she didn't know what to do but yell at me and call some names.
Whiskers is "being mean" to wisdom and Matt too. The meta thing and yiu and them all point to town who thinks highly of their play and can sense themselves being pushed to the side by a group of people who knew each other previously.-
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In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:@ nacho
I don't think scum desp would push me either but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town. matt, wis are solid town reads, arc has slipped a bit and mala is unsure. I think shos looks like pondscum but I thought that in sabotage too. I will lay off whiskers for now but jesus christ don't let her skate.
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Why are you talking to other people about things we were discussing and then ignoring my responses?In post 598, pirate mollie wrote:
the only thing that irks me is how he is ignoring what whiskers is doing. I mean like we literally just saw this happen in a micros.In post 593, Nachomamma8 wrote:
The push itself is good, even though it's probably wrong. That's not what a scumDesp ignoring obvious towntells to get a mislynch on you would look like.In post 586, pirate mollie wrote:but I also expect to him to be able to read me a bit better as town.
I've already addressed both of these issues. I'm having trouble reading you this game because what you are doing makes no fucking sense, at any point. None of your pushes have been even remotely useful. You are getting caught up in a catfight with Whiskers and using it as an excuse to tunnel and I don't like it.
AndI completely disagree with your interpretation of what Whiskers is doing so seriously, stop telling me that we "literally just saw this" because we fucking didn't. What Whiskers is doing right now is NOT what ETL and SG did.
And even if it were...so what? Whiskers isn't ETL or SG. You are still clinging to this silly "meltdowns are the new scum fad" narrative and its just bad, dude.
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SG didn't have half as much conviction in her attacks on you as Whiskers does.In post 607, pirate mollie wrote:
I am not talking about etl I am talking about squirrel girl in mala's medical mafia game. never played with her before but she came in with a hate on for me that was an effective smokescreen for scummy d1 play. I am tired of giving this shit a pass.
Stop comparing them.
PS Whiskers' breakdown of your reads is actually pretty accurate. "Shos looks like pondscum but he did in the doctor micro" yeah no shit, I already told you he was playing scummy intentionally.-
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Because you still aren't addressing my concerns with you, you're just yapping about Whiskers.In post 626, pirate mollie wrote:we most certainly DID see it. why the fuck are you pretending we didn't and I don't give a shit what anybody says coming up with an exorbitant amount of dislike of a player when you have never played with them is a scumtell. it is a smokescreen andwhy the fuck are you buying it and then trying to call me scum.
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- None of your pushes make sense.
- You are treating Penguin as town but you aren't defending her from Wis or myself--the only defense you've mounted was a weak chainsaw on Mala that you quickly dropped.
- You are more interested in arguing with Whiskers or talking to Nacho and I about arguing with Whiskers than finding scum. That you "aren't there yet" onanyadditional scum reads (given the weakness of your Whiskers case itself) is alarming. The only one you can give is complete bollocks AND ignores something I already brought up in thread.
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In post 685, pirate mollie wrote:wtf mebbeI[/v] should be the 1 to replace out wis and matt are already getting paranoid about me
Don't bother replacing out--we're just going to lynch you today instead.In post 686, pirate mollie wrote:I just looked at the sign-ups and you signed-up right after me.
so who are the fuck are you. focus feels to personal, like you are not even scumreading me you are saying these things with the specific purpose of trying to make me feel bad about myself. <----------- either you are a complete and total motherfucking cyberstalking asshole or you are scum. they are not even game related. nowhere are you trying to even to figure out what my alignment is.
The parallel dimension where mollie's self-professed only skill as scum is emotional manipulation.In post 691, Mirari wrote:I don't think a parallel dimension exists where 686 comes from scum.-
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She's had almost 30 pages to snap out of it on her own, and she shouldn't need multiple people prodding her to start scumhunting.In post 716, Wisdom wrote:mollie, listen here.
If you are town, snap out of itright now, leave Whiskers aside, and start scumhunting and commenting on the things that are happening (shos, penguing, etc). It's just a personality trait of his and most certainly NOT something personal with you. So drop it now.
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Your thought process can't possibly be this shallow.In post 644, Malakittens wrote:Because really the only time the chair is posted is when she's town. I mean she might do it as scum, but I have never seen it before in the games she's played with me.-
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Bull fucking shit you aren't.In post 725, pirate mollie wrote:fuck you desp I am not emotionally manipulating any1. if you are scum and you are pulling this d1 lynch me bullshit I am going to be pissed.
"Maybe I should replace out since Wis and Mala are already getting paranoid on me?"
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Last I checked your only scum reads were "soupy."In post 726, pirate mollie wrote:I have been scumhunting and don't you dare misep my play again
Your hard townreads are universal outside of Whiskers' conspiracy theory.
Everyone else is unsure.
All of your time has been wasted bitching with or about Whiskers.
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In post 184, pirate mollie wrote:
no. I dislike her sticky read on pennyIn post 182, Wisdom wrote:Do you disagree with my points or Grimgroove's points on her?
^There it is.In post 186, pirate mollie wrote:yabbut she firmed it up
And this looks an awful lot like you working with Penguin, immediately after chainsawing on Mala for her.In post 227, pirate mollie wrote:
I didn't like her saying that nacho was seriously pretending to be defensive. I got that nacho was joking didn't you? she is clinging to that narrative like a liferaft and all of her posturing is the very definition scum posturing. <------like if I had to take a picture of what scum posturing looks like that would be it.In post 226, penguin_alien wrote:Rereading it I'd say that I got a Whiskers town-read out of it. I'm not clear on why you didn't.
now why the fuck do you have that as town
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Nope. I think shos and mollie are connected because of mollie's read on shos, not the other way around as you reasoned it out.In post 747, Wisdom wrote:... though that means, that once more, you are sheeping me.-
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The problem is that you aren't having trouble tuning out the noise--you are creating the fucking noise.In post 748, pirate mollie wrote:my reads ARE soupy. I have some town reads and I have a scumread. sometimes I can get reads right away and sometimes I have hard time tuning out noise and as my hydra partner you fucking very well know this. you know that I have walked away from d1 with only 1 tentative scumread. <-----why are you ignoring this? if you are scum then fine but I would never in a million years do this to you if the tables were reversed. lying about my meta as a hydra partner is the single scummiest thing in the game so far it is also the stupidest thing since 2 of my other hydra partners are in this game.-
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Shos goes from "pondscum but maybe town because of sabotage" to "scum" to "I can't read Shos well because we only have 2 completed games together and he is being trotted out instead of obvscum Whiskers"In post 755, Wisdom wrote:
How does that read connect them?In post 753, Desperado wrote:shos and mollie are connected because of mollie's read on shos-
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