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Mod:You say there's an arbitrary deadline. Is there a minimum time for that?
Expect around 1 week per 2-3 living players, but no promises.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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So I was thinking about some strategies here, and I was wondering what other people thought about just having the suicide bomber bomb the most suspicious person so we get the equivalent of two lynches.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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charter wrote:vote hasdgfasfor trying to kill two people at random (which is idiotic).vote: charterfor complete misrepresentation of what I'm saying.
The town, obviously. Like I said, it's like getting two lynches. Or, more technically, getting two days in one since the SB dies also.charter wrote:And who is to decide the "most suspicious person"?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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No...icemanE wrote:
Well, we don't know if the SB is town do we?hasdgfas wrote:So I was thinking about some strategies here, and I was wondering what other people thought about just having the suicide bomber bomb the most suspicious person so we get the equivalent of two lynches.
What are you trying to say?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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oh, are you talking about this?charter wrote:In case you didn't notice (or just chose to ignore it) I corrected myself. Nice jumpy vote back onto me though.
Sorry, no, not buying that as correcting yourself. You're still not getting what I'm saying.charter wrote:Ehhh, I suppose it's just one at random, but still, suggesting that before anyone has posted makes me think you are just trying to kill off people as fast as you can.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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charter: what I'm trying to do is get the town to realize that we have lots of tools at our disposal to get rid of scum before we have a night and they can start killing off people.charter wrote:Please no one listen to hasajhdkhfkj yet... His trying to off as many people as possible after this day has been up for what, an hour, is dumb to jump right into.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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Dude, you're not getting it. I'm not saying kill them off at random. If the town discusses and finds the most suspicious people, then we can use all our kills to get rid of as much of the mafia as we can before they can kill us off.charter wrote:Well, hey, while we're at it, lets SB someone now, let the backup role guy inherit the SB role and we can kill off 5 people today!! Lets try and find some way to just lose day one and set the record for worst town ever!!jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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I don't quite understand what you're saying here.armlx wrote:has, the flaw is unlike normal random viggings the "vig" doesn't have a target pool of 1 less person then the set up when he "vigs" the SB.
And if the SB hits scum, we've killed scum and gained another lynch. I'm not saying we shouldn't scumhunt. I want us to scumhunt and find those who are scummy. I'm just saying we don't only have lynches, and I want people to remember that.charter wrote:Mafia games are won all the time by just lynching scum. If we miss with the SB that could potentially be the same as a mislynch then NK. Essentially losing us a day. I'm saying that I think it will be better to just conventionally scumhunt. Plus, if Crazy is scum, there's no way he would SB someone...jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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I think that is a really scummy suggestion. You want to get rid of the role we think we should have another of to give it to you? We don't know your alignment. You could be scum wanting the town to give the most useful power role to you so the scum are uber powerful. I don't like it.icemanE wrote:Question for mod:
As "super bacjup", will I assume the role of suicide bomber if he kills himself?
We should think about how to utilize my role as best we can. What role would be most useful for us to have two of? It almost makes sense to me to take our chances and lynch the role we think it would be worth having another of so we don't waste our chance for a duplicate of that role on a NK. What do you think?FoS: icemanEjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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It started out as a question of what other people thought of it, in case you missed that.ZombieSlayer54 wrote:Hasdfgas also seemed far too eager at the start to have the SB kill in Day 1.
That's why we're talking about who to use the abilities on, ZS. We're not "using them left and right", we're going to discuss who all we find scummy, and try to be rid of them.ZS wrote:Honestly, I want more discussion than just one day of discussion for us to start using our day abilities left and right. Especially the SB, since we will not know whether or not we hit scum with him, and then that will be two dead townies instead of one dead townie and one dead scum. And then, of course, if iceman is scum (Which I am heavily inclined towards right now) he can choose to be SB, and then kill yet another townie. He might be dead, sure, but with all this killing already going on, I doubt it would make little difference. Especially since, in this scenario, the poisoner would probably be using his ability, presumably on townies, as well. Dead townies all over the place. Just not my kind of game.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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The problem with just poisoning is that the poison death happens at theendof the day, so we have to lynch someone else without finding the alignment of the poisoned one.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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why are you still on that? You're trying to kill him just based on his role. We're not supposed to be doing that. Has he done anything scummy, emp? Because that would make a better argument than "oh, he's a poisoner,Empking wrote:Dayvig: IcemanE
I think IcemanE might be a good kill for today for the reasons stated by others but I think an unblockable dayvig whose target is hidden from us until we lynch is too powerful to be alive just incase he's scum.ifhe's scum, he'll be bad for us.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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No. Try again.Empking wrote:
This post leads me to think that he's purpousely mislead the town in order to stay alive and since we're not at lynch or loose it seems to me to be a scum like move.wolframnhart wrote:
So you would vote me, out of the other dayvigs? Kinda random there since there are worse potential killers.Empking wrote:Vote: wolframnhart
I really don't like the idea of a dayvig who might be scum.
On the other hand, I do quite like the "kill a lot on day 1" plan though six deaths on day 1 would be a bit too much, four seems a bit much.
I think the "kill a good role so I can take it" was more of a moment of idiocy rather than a scum tell but I'm not sure if it was a town moment or scum moment.
vote: empkingjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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This is an excellent post.armlx wrote:As for how many kills today, I vote for as many as possible. More pro-town kills is like pushing the game towards nightless.
This is horrendous misrepresentation.icemanE wrote:
WTF? The more kills that occur today, the more townies will die, period. Chances are obviously immensely better based on odds alone that more townies will die than scum - your suggestion is basically to carpetbomb the shit out of this game until we happen to kill scum, and in the process kill a bunch of townies.As for how many kills today, I vote for as many as possible. More pro-town kills is like pushing the game towards nightless.
I'd be happy with an icemanE SB/lynch/poisoning, but I really want empking to think for a second about what he's saying.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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how is it overkill to kill off the people we find most suspicious before the mafia gets a chance to NK some of us?icemanE wrote:
Wow. No. This is ridiculous, and very typical of what I saw in the Eclipse game - trying to tie my ideas in with other trash you generate to make what I'm saying seem stupid by association.By that logic, we should just non-stop no lynch until LyLo as it thins the crowd even more. By arguing that it is better to not utilize as many pro-town kills as is possible, you should agree with the statement that doctors shouldn't protect randomly as it hurts the town's info flow.
OBVIOUSLY PRO-TOWN KILLS ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN. What I'm saying is that CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD THAT MOST OF THE KILLS WE MAKE TODAY ARE NOT GOING TO BE PROTOWN IF WE JUST GUN DOWN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ON DAY ONE. Say we follow the high body count plan - and we screw it up, which is just as likely as killing even ONE of the scum - in fact, it's more likely we'll screw it up that not based on odds - that leaves us quite near lylo on day 2. What then? I already know you'll be making one mistake for sure if you go ahead with Alabaska and armlx's plan, so I can't possibly envision this being a good idea. I think utilizing the poisoner as well as the lynch is a BONUS KILL, but using the SB to kill two MORE people is OVERKILL.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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but you don't know that we're killing townies, ice, that's the thing. We're killing the most suspicious people. I'd rather have them dead early than be confusing us later when it's more stressful.icemanE wrote:
Also - the scum's main weapon is misleading the town into making poor decisions.You fail to realize that the scum's main weapon to win is night kills while ours is the lynch. How is maximizing ours while minimizing theirs a bad thing?
And we will be minimizing our chances for success and killing townies needlessly if we just bomb the hell out of the whole thing.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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Why wouldn't we want to do that AND STILL HAVE A LYNCH THAT CAN GET US ANOTHER SCUM BEFORE THEY GET A KILLicemanE wrote:
What I see is wrong with it is that it doubles our chances to be wrong without doubling our chances to be right. The SB isn't going to kill another scum. So the most we can kill with the SB is one scum - why would we want to risk losing two townies for the chance of killing at maximum one scum?I don't see whats wrong with that.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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Why did this have to be thrown in?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
Once again, presuming all kills will be pro-town.armlx wrote:Oh, yeah, the latest reason I don't like icemanE is him trying to defend himself with role info.
As for how many kills today, I vote for as many as possible. More pro-town kills is like pushing the game towards nightless.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
This post makes me think that either armlx is scum, or iceman is scum. I heavily doubt both can be scum at this point. Leaning towards armlx, though.icemanE wrote:
I've already told you SEVERAL times that if given the oppurtunity to assume the SB role, I would decline it.My answer is just the lynch and poisoner. My reason for not wanting to SB today is that I flat out don't trust iceman to do anything with his SB other than kill the most useful townie role (watcher/tracker in my opinion). You guys keep saying that we should SB then let him SB someone else. How do you know he's going to go through with it?!?!?!?
How and why is this a bad thing? You either have some personal problem with me or you're scum again this game. I also don't understand how armlx is allowed to cruise by making two line posts without growing any moss, especially when he advocates high body counts based on pretty loose info. I mean look at this for Christ's sake:Oh, yeah, the latest reason I don't like icemanE is him trying to defend himself with role info.
WTF? The more kills that occur today, the more townies will die, period. Chances are obviously immensely better based on odds alone that more townies will die than scum - your suggestion is basically to carpetbomb the shit out of this game until we happen to kill scum, and in the process kill a bunch of townies.As for how many kills today, I vote for as many as possible. More pro-town kills is like pushing the game towards nightless.
@Armlx - do you really think Crazy is scum or do you just want the SB to use his ability?FoS: ZS
Please explain why you think armlx is scum over icejdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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Right, but if we get rid of the scummy people Day 1, we'll have better chances later if we happened to screw up today.ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
Because it is hard to be sure of someone's scuminess on Day 1.hasdgfas wrote:
how is it overkill to kill off the people we find most suspicious before the mafia gets a chance to NK some of us?icemanE wrote:
Wow. No. This is ridiculous, and very typical of what I saw in the Eclipse game - trying to tie my ideas in with other trash you generate to make what I'm saying seem stupid by association.By that logic, we should just non-stop no lynch until LyLo as it thins the crowd even more. By arguing that it is better to not utilize as many pro-town kills as is possible, you should agree with the statement that doctors shouldn't protect randomly as it hurts the town's info flow.
OBVIOUSLY PRO-TOWN KILLS ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN. What I'm saying is that CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD THAT MOST OF THE KILLS WE MAKE TODAY ARE NOT GOING TO BE PROTOWN IF WE JUST GUN DOWN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ON DAY ONE. Say we follow the high body count plan - and we screw it up, which is just as likely as killing even ONE of the scum - in fact, it's more likely we'll screw it up that not based on odds - that leaves us quite near lylo on day 2. What then? I already know you'll be making one mistake for sure if you go ahead with Alabaska and armlx's plan, so I can't possibly envision this being a good idea. I think utilizing the poisoner as well as the lynch is a BONUS KILL, but using the SB to kill two MORE people is OVERKILL.
We need more information before using stuff like suicide bombers.
Poisoners I am semi-fine with using right now.
SBs? Hell no.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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:goodposting:wolframnhart wrote:
The only problem is ZS that if we did just a lynch today the mafia members wil more then likely kill off one of the dayvigs so they wouldnt be able to use their powers against them the next day, either that or kill off a protective role depending on what they think is the greatest threat.ZombieSlayer wrote: I would really rather us not use any kills (besides lynches) unil we have good information."jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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Then if he's town, he would have claimed it already, and if he's scum, he wouldn't claim it anyway. I don't see what you're getting at.Alabaska J wrote:
What if the poisoner had some secret ability that ended up hurting the town immensely when he tried to kill?cerebus3 wrote:
Do you ask people to just claim spontaneously in normal games Alabaska?Alabaska wrote:Yes you do. I find nothing scummy about it whatsoever.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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why should he tell us, alabaska? I don't see any town reason to.Alabaska J wrote:Um, well then the poisoner should tell us. You agreed with me. I don't see where I'm wrong here…jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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well, could you point them out instead of just making comments that everyone else thinks are wrong?Empking wrote:Everything he posts has a scum tell in it. You're entitled to your opinion but its wrong.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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Mod, sorry for the double post, but I didn't see this before.pwnz wrote:
What a stupid thing to say. How would my guess on an individual's alignment be any better then your own, or every one else's here for that matter?I know the game is moving fast, but you have yet to comment on anybody's alignment yet.
pwnz, what are you talking about? Everyone's guesses as to people's alignments are their own. You might find something that the rest of us hadn't that finds someone as much more scummy than we thought them before. Plus, that's mafia, finding alignments.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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good work, ice, since we had decided on empking. Gah.icemanE wrote:Suicide Bomb: Alabaska J
I was right about crazy. Hopefully I'm right here too. Good luck town.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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although the first point isn't terrible, the second one is again, not backed up by anything. Emp, please start actually showing us when you accuse people.Empking wrote:
This is a clear cut case of trying to look pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town.wolframnhart wrote:Happy to see one scum go down, but in the process we lost three townies, and I really hate the fact the jail keeper went down.
In the rest of his posts, he seems to be allergic from actually trying to do any scum hunting at all.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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ZombieSlayer54 wrote:Unvote Empking, Vote Armlx
I support the idea that we should kill the person who suggested the mass killings.unvote, vote: ZSjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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Posts? Proof? Please?Styro wrote:Ok I've actually read all of the 15 pages and I would've voted armlx even if my predecessor didn't, besides from the mass-killing plan, armlx gives off a scummy vibe, ... just appearing too comprehensive sometimes, cautious too.
half of that is because I haven't seen him acting like scum, the other half is that people are blaming him for what started out as my plan, killing all the scummy people today.Styro wrote:I'm also not liking hasf... for some reason. I'll read thru his individual posts.
... okay I've read hasf...'s individual posts in this game, he seems very defensive of armlx for some reason, even when armlx isn't really under heat, so it can't be scum buddying up to a townie (since armlx wasn't even under pressure).
armlx today and if he flips scum, i'm gunning for hasf's milky arse tmrjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
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If that's what it takes for you to make your point and back it up, yes.Empking wrote:
You want me to quote every single post he's posted?hasdgfas wrote:
although the first point isn't terrible, the second one is again, not backed up by anything. Emp, please start actually showing us when you accuse people.Empking wrote:
This is a clear cut case of trying to look pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town.wolframnhart wrote:Happy to see one scum go down, but in the process we lost three townies, and I really hate the fact the jail keeper went down.
In the rest of his posts, he seems to be allergic from actually trying to do any scum hunting at all.
I never agreed to that plan. Who did?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:The point of the matter is is that we essentially agreed on a plan that we would lynch you because you were the one who proposed the mass killings. I was in opposition to this, but simply because I was in opposition to the mass killings. Now that they have happened despite my protests, it sincerely looks like the best course of action.
Why the hell are you people getting on me for doing something you agreed upon?!jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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That's a link to this page.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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you can also link to a specific post to show us something in particular.Empking wrote:
Yes on on this page their are some magic things that let people see all the posts by a certain person.hasdgfas wrote:That's a link to this page.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Voting history? Seriously? I can't believe that's the only reason you have for voting at this point in the game. I mean, seriously. So much has happenedjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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The onus of proof is on you, Empking. You can't expect us all to see what you see just by looking through his posts. You have to show us what you see.Empking wrote:
Go to the place where it say all users - click on his name anfd press go.armlx wrote:
Then do so.I can prove it, just not the way you want me to prove it.
^^I still advocate not planning them out in thread.
There is also no reason not to use your night ability tonight.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.armlx wrote:Put that all together and we are left with one Mafia vote on charter at the very beginning of the game, which could honestly mean anything.
Your case on charter self contradicts within 1 paragraph. Nice.Mafia will sometimes vote for other members of the mafia early in the game in order to remove suspicion.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Hmm, I have my own thoughts, but I want wolf to defend himself before I say anything.armlx wrote:
He first states that there is no way to reason out the vote, then ascribes a meaning to it.wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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You saying it contradicts. I want wolf to respond to it.armlx wrote:
What does wolf have to defend against?hasdgfas wrote:
Hmm, I have my own thoughts, but I want wolf to defend himself before I say anything.armlx wrote:
He first states that there is no way to reason out the vote, then ascribes a meaning to it.wait a second. Please explain how that contradicts.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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pwnz then. Why did I think it was wolf?armlx wrote:
That was in response to a comment made by pwnz actually, but ok.You saying it contradicts. I want wolf to respond to it.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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how can you say something has no real bearing on the game? Isn't this a game of words? Why shouldn't we be held accountable for everything we say?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
By "insignificant" I mean the way Armlx goes after posts where the words are not completely clear, because of unfortunate positioning, or some other reason, and then acts like it is the most massive scumtell in the entire game.hasdgfas wrote:ZS: Could you explain what you see as insignificant and how you can claim anything is insignificant in a mafia game?
Something can be insignificant when it has no real bearing on the game, but people make it out to be overly important.
I'm also seeing a Chainsaw defense, Tar style coming from ZS, who is defending pwnz by attacking armlx with craplogicjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I suggested that freaking plan, ZS. Why does everyone think it's armlx?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:Well, I think I criticized armlx for his suggesting of the whole "Kill as many people as possible" plan before I started defending pwnz.
I think that nullifies at least one half of the tell check, or whatever you want to call it.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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ZS: Why do you keep ignoring the fact that I came up with the plan, and keep going after armlx for it when it wasn't his plan?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
I would still be trying to lynch the person armlx, even if we got more scum kills.wolframnhart wrote:I don't think it was armlx that proposed it, but I have read back and yes ZS does continually criticize armlx for the plan, at the very least being apart of it.
I would like part of my answer to armlx earlier post to be answered by ZS though. If we had gotten more scum kills out of the dayvig power usage so far, would you still be trying to lynch the person who brought up the plan, or would you be happy with it and trying to find a different person you thought was scum? Also, aside from the "overly-aggressiveness" and the "plan" do you think that armlx is scum for any other reason, or for just those two reasons?
Just those two reasons.
And armlx: I still like the insurance, no matter what.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Oh believe me, I knew there was no night phase when I asked that question.ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
There was no night phase, in case you forgot.hasdgfas wrote:
results?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:In other news:
L-1. Good time to claim, right?
I am secretly a cop.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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even if he's telling the truth, he could still be scum.Empking wrote:Wow he's a very powerful investigative role. (Presuming he's telling the truth.) I definately don't think he should be lynched just in case.
ZS, would you answer pwnz question.
I'd like to know if both things can be done the same night.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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hmm, what would make you think that unless you have some knowledge?ZombieSlayer54 wrote:Also: I think "Mafia Goon" is probably a secret role in itself, rather than "Mafia" being an alignment randomly assigned after the public and secret roles are assigned.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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ok, maybe the mod can clarify this.ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
Obviously.armlx wrote:
Godfather entails an extra ability however (immunity to investigations).Besides the fact that Crazy's secret role was "Godfather"?
But I still think that this says that your Secret Role also determines your alignment.
I.E. If your secret role is a Mafia role, then you are Mafia.
So there are only two role tiers, not three.
Mod:are alignments distributed separately from both known roles and secret roles?
No.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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Plus, I don't understand why you would think that. Please explain(with another argument besides "Crazy showed up as Godfather")ZombieSlayer54 wrote:
Obviously.armlx wrote:
Godfather entails an extra ability however (immunity to investigations).Besides the fact that Crazy's secret role was "Godfather"?
But I still think that this says that your Secret Role also determines your alignment.
I.E. If your secret role is a Mafia role, then you are Mafia.
So there are only two role tiers, not three.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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not really. He still hasn't explained why. He's just said "look through his posts and you'll see"charter wrote:
Have you read this game? This is a dumb question to ask...pwnz wrote:Hey Empking, why are you voting for wolframnhart?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I think you were the only one who thought that "Mafia Goon" was a secret role, and because the mod basically confirmed that, I believe you only thought that because you had prior knowledge.ZombieSlayer54 wrote:Has, how does the answer make you want to lynch me MORE?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Except it's not, because Godfather gives extra abilities.Empking wrote:I do think that the Crazy argument is a good enough argument.
Please show us where, like people have told you every single time you say this.Emp wrote:I've wrote why I think he's scum.
He never tried to look at scum.
He did actions to try and make himself look like town without actually helping town.
He tried to mislead the town.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow