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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:20 am

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Checked charter, results were that he targeted nobody (because hascow blocked him..)
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:44 am

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Mod, if someone tracks someone who is blocked, do they see the intented targets?


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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:37 am

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The answer is no, per what I said earlier. The results came up as a no-target.

Charter bussed wolf with geddings
Hascow blocked charter
I tracked charter and found nothing
Geddings did not have a gun per Armlx's "secret ability"

Geddingsworth dies..
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:49 am

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Ged dying doesn't mean a whole lot. He could have died regardless of who was targetted.

Has, can I ask why you picked me?
armlx, why pick ged?
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:06 am

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armlx, why pick ged?
I actually figured of the people I wanted to investigate, he was the least likely to die as the mafia would actually never have incentive to directly target him for a kill. I knew he would cover for someone, but I assumed he would lose the WIFOM on the basis that is usually what happens in my experience, as well as any possible bus driving or role blocking shenanigans that might occur.

And mod, I asked a question about open role descriptions. Is that not public info?
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:23 am

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Xyl didn't answer armlx's question of basically "is pwnz lying?" I'll have to answer that question myself it seems.

Pwnz, why pick me?
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:40 am

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charter wrote:Has, can I ask why you picked me?
I was having uneasy feelings about you through Day 1.
jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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jdodge1019: thus he is a cow
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:13 am

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Uneasy how?
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:01 pm

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I'm beginning to wonder if Gens death was intentional. He was human shield after all and if charter was blocked from having myself and Gen put in the bus, then Gen would have probably picked someone to protect (not realizing he was going to be protected himself) and his death is a result of that.

Question is, who did he protect if that is the case. Also how can we find that out?
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:31 pm

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charter wrote:Uneasy how?
-_-

For the most part, it was a gut read of you as scum, that's usually what an uneasy feeling means. If you prefer I make a case on you, I can do that too.


Also, I won't have access from the 17th through the 21st.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:55 am

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No, but why not block wolf or ged? If one of them is mafia, they would undoubtably be the one to have sent in the kill.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:39 am

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'quote="charter"]Pwnz, why pick me?[/quote]

You have always been my top suspect to be scum. That and it seemed like the busser would be most likely switch one of his mafia buddies for a townie just in case something bad were to happen.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:06 am

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charter wrote:No, but why not block wolf or ged? If one of them is mafia, they would undoubtably be the one to have sent in the kill.
I didn't want to block wolf, because I felt more uneasy about you than him.

Why the heck would I want to block ged?
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:14 am

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Alright lets think about this for a second (sorry some of it will be a repeat of what was said but i am thinking out loud).

charter bussed me with Ged, but that ability was blocked by hascow.
Armlx scanned Ged, saw he had no gun.
Pwnz took a look at charter, but found he did nothing, we assume because Hascow blocked Charter.
I sat on my ass and watched tv, because I have no night ability.

If everyone used their night powers accordingly then Ged wouldn't have died. I say this only because in most games if you have a night ability and use it, you cannot send a vote kill in as well.

If there is One mafia member left, I would think it is pwnz. The reason i say this is based on he took an extra day to answer the popcorn, which could have given him time to think of who he said he targeted to track, the likely choice being charter because has already said he blocked him, so pwnz would know he could say "no target" and probably get away with it, especially since the mod cannot answer the question about it.

The only thing I can also think of is the trackers ability is stated as:
tracker wrote:You are a
Tracker
. You can target another player at night to learn who they targeted with their action.
Since the mod cant answer the question, pwnz was kind enough to give his own answer, which is no because he wants us to believe he can't see who charter targeted, but the way his role is stated doesn't really go with that imho. I believe that even if charter was blocked, it would still show who he targeted, just that he didn't get to go through with it because Hascow had blocked him.

I hope this is all right and that I haven't missed anything, but based on what I believe i found I am
vote pwnz
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:29 pm

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Armlx could have "investigated" ged as well, but in reality killed him. It would stand up to pwnz's "tracking" as well. You've conveniently left this out of your analysis. Plus, none of us know that it wasn't you who sent in the kill.

As far as I can tell, no one is cleared yet, but I think the scum team is either wolf/armlx or pwnz/someone.

Also, I'm betting there's two mafia left, not one, that's pretty standard in a 12 person mini. However, you do raise a good point with he should still have most likely learned who I tried to switch.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:16 pm

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@charter I guess I did miss out there and you are right, armlx could have easily said he scanned Ged and Ged had no gun (obviously since he was town) and when in reality he killed him.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:02 am

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Vote Count


Not voting: armlx, charter, hasdgfas, pwnz, wolframnhart

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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:41 am

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I guess that it might look a bit suspicious that I did indeed answer the popcorn last, but I would have answered first if I was called upon. As I stated earlier, I was unaware that giving away your night actions was so strategic, but I am completely willing to give up my night action reveal first tomorrow morning in order to hopefully dis spell any doubt in your mind that you might have about me. I will do whatever need be.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:48 am

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Wolf's analysis that leads him to voting Pwnz seems odd. The 1 mafia thing, assuming Pwnz would know the mod could not answer.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:53 am

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Sorry, I've been busing moving in real life. I don't see enough to vote on yet when we really can't afford a mislynch here.

Pwnz, what makes you so sure you're going to be alive tomorrow to reveal first?
I need to think of some more questions, but that's all I've got this minute.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:07 pm

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I'm not trying to say my case against pwnz is lock stock and barrel, it's based off of what seems to have transpired from night one, and i wasn't really a big fan of his on day 1 and had him in my sights from his play then as i had expressed at that time.

if anyone else has any opinions on who they believe to be scum atm please share them, this game has been very fun and I would like to see the ending.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:40 am

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Charter wrote:Pwnz, what makes you so sure you're going to be alive tomorrow to reveal first?
If I'm not alive tomorrow you will know what position that I held in the game regardless, so it wouldn't really matter either way.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:43 am

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charter wrote:Sorry, I've been busing moving in real life. I don't see enough to vote on yet when we really can't afford a mislynch here.

Pwnz, what makes you so sure you're going to be alive tomorrow to reveal first?
I need to think of some more questions, but that's all I've got this minute.
I like that question to pwnz charter (even though pwnz did answer it) because in his post pwnz didnt even say IF he was alive tomorrow, just that tomorrow morning he would post his night action first, as if it was guaranteed he would be alive.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:29 am

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I'm leaning Wolf right now, but I don't want to vote yet given the scenario we are in.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:01 am

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I think I need a reread. Yesterday I was suspicious of wolf for his asking people for their stances before he took his, and now today pwnz looks the most suspicious, but I haven't seen anything that points to a wolf/pwnz scumpair, but that's what the reread is for.

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