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There are many alternatives:
1) You're scum and know she's a townie
2) You're scum and so is she
3) You're an SK and therefore she's something else
4) You're a townie who has no idea what she is
5) You're a cop with a headstart
6) You're Masons
I have no reason to rely on your statement as a guide for whom to go after.
vote: MeMe-
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Neko: If your vote on archaist was just a catalyst for discussion and you saw soupfly and/or I as opportunistic scum, why didn't the vote switch to one of us?
Soupfly: I have to agree with Sammich. Why even bring all that up? For me, you've just undercut everything you might do in the future and, in effect, told me not to trust you.-
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<This post has little to do with the game at hand>
I don't think you should change your playstyle if you're winning games.
And by trust, I think I meant credibility. Its hard for me to put in words at the moment.
I guess it struck me as a cook coming to my table and saying, "Sometimes I poison food and sometimes I don't. In both cases it tastes good, so enjoy!" I don't want to start playing the analogy game where we go back and forth saying that's not what I meant/yes it was, but that's what I've got off the cuff.
It was unnecessary. Its possible you'd never get called on your style this game.
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Burden of Proof?MeMe wrote:
Read your posts and explain to me why youRideTheBomb wrote:And what exactly did I do to deserve it?don'tdeserve to be voted.-
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I was eagerly awaiting Sammich's review since I was gonna be in this one. I'm vain like that
That would be very extreme, replacing out just to avoid getting pressured.neko wrote:On the other hand, he could be asking to replace out as a convenient excuse to avoid this sort of pressure, but, that seems unlikely.
I'm not sure I would agree that MeMe's reasons are no longer valid.-
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In case you were asking that "for real":Sikario8 wrote:gorckat wrote:Ooh- I like the little colored dots. They make for a very convincingargument•Where's yours?
I voted neko because he seemed to say one thing and do another a few times. soupfly pointed out his blandness and hesitancy to voice suspicion, which I'd seen but couldn't verbalize (it was an unconscious cue/read on my part). You've caught another inconsistency of the same character as the ones that made me vote him.-
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Yeah, pretty much.
One person has said they want to bail (MeMe)
Two have said they'll bail if the game is dead (soup and Neko)
7 people are inactive over one week.
I'm agreeing with MeMe.
I played in a Mini that had 11 total replacements for 12 players, one role being replaced 3 times and two roles replaced twice. It took ~8 months. It was not fun.
If we got a load of replacements all at once, then awesome. Realistically, I do not expect that to happen.-
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I haven't fairly warned people yet- Iwillbastardize your name into whatever abbreviation works best in my mind as "casual". I prefer gorc, not gor, but to each his own
Not much to rebut. I think I was the first to cite "inconsistency" on his part as my main motive. The 'yeah what they said' were two posts by others that confirmed a feeling I'd had but couldn't express (tentativeness) and another inconsistency (tunnel vision) of the sort that made me vote him.Sik wrote:Gorckat, care to rebut?
neko: Even if I hadn't expressed anything "original", are we expected to?Do you expect each vote to have original reasons to back it up?-
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me wrote:neko: Even if I hadn't expressed anything "original", are we expected to?Do you expect each vote to have original reasons to back it up?
What I meant to ask, more specifically, is once a case is made and you agree with it, what else can you add?neko wrote:I believe that the answer to your question would be, "uh... yeah" Why on earth should we trust you if you're going to play the 'yes man' all day?
neko wrote:Now, you did mention inconsistencies, good, but honestly, a good mafia can be just as consistent as a good townie, so that seems like a weak argument to me, and so far, that seems to be all you have. Is that all you have? I wouldn't know, because you haven't really elaborated anything. That's unfortunate for you.
Let's elaborate more now:
There was the post questioning why MeMe got on Jester, but not vellon. I thought it was obvious that vellon hadn't posted anywhere from MeMe's post. If it was honest confusion, fine- it is a small thing, but didn't sit well with me.
There was the postlooking at Archaist for wanting to wait for the last 2 people. You seem to be wanting confirmation for an attack on him. You voted him after soupfly we should get it on, which struck me as a tad odd (tenative, as later pointed out).
You didn't vote me when you said I was opportunistic scum, again seeming to look for confirmation to attack, nor did you when you felt I was hiding something.
Looks like that was said because no one jumped on with you.neko wrote:So for either you or soupfly to jump onto a wagon (if 3 votes in a 12-player game counts as a wagon), I think that's a bit fishy, but not nearly worrisome enough for me to place a vote. I will keep it in mind, though.
I don't think anyone was voting me, either, when you were suspecting me.neko wrote:I'd be hesitant about voting for you, but nobody is, currently, so there's no danger yet. I think you've deserved a
vote:sikario
I think that is everything up to where I voted you. I didn't keep notes, so I may have forgotten something not mentioned.-
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Woah. I though Oman replaced in.
Without the threat of lynch, what pressure is there? There is no pressure if there is no threat of lynch. How can you have any pressure if you won't lynch! [/lame Pink Floyd meat and pudding joke]neko wrote:To answer your question, Sik, I think the lurkers should be pressured yes, but lynched? wow that's a bit extreme.
I should hope not, after only 2 or 3 votes.neko wrote:That said, I'm not giving up yet.
sik: What reaction were you expecting to confirm neko as scum?-
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Its still day one.
I'd much rather you re-read than possibly be manipulated by everyone's interests. You won't be tested, but your own views would be much more appreciated (by me at least).
Just skim up, make quick notes on how it looks and seems as you go and jump in. You could be functionally caught up in an hour or so.-
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How thorough.Tar wrote:While I admit that I haven't fully analyzed the other players yet (SirWario in particular), I'm pretty sure that I want to lynch one of Archaist, neko, and gorckat today.
Am I already bussing neko?
My vote on archaist was not random- it was to push him to 3 votes, fishing for reactions. In your experience, do you often find scum voting each other early? Which games?
The most likely reason you see link between the three of us is we were among the active half of the players for awhile. I've had dialog with other players when there's been questions for me or questions I had for them.-
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Would you rather go No-Lynch? I'm only moving if one of the people I think are scummier aren't being lynched.Tar wrote:Holy scummy post, Batman. Gorckat is parroting other player's suspicions and supporting a wagon without actually placing his vote on it (or even a FoS, for that matter).
Out of context. It was directly related to my questioning Gorgon on why he hadn't voted sikario, iirc, when they worried him.Tar wrote:gorckat is asking for another player's analysis while offering no analysis of his own!-
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As it was proposed, I believe we do not have time to 1) get a majority to agree to play, 2) get everyone to post their list and name the next person to do so and 3) marshal some kind of action based on those posts.and I find it suspicious that people are saying we shouldn't bother.
I also believe I've already put my top three out there- Sikario (now DR), Gorgon and SirWario.-
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I've tried to be provacative, unlike other games I've been in. Each vote has been intentional and deliberate and will hopefully be useful later. Unfortunately, there have been really bad lulls with people getting replaced or just not doing anything.neko wrote:maybe your voting habits really are just strange, but I think nobody in this game has voted with less discretion than you.
Can you show me where my votes have harmed the town, or been done with that intent?-
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Someone needs to be at 3 votes if we're to learn anything.Gorckat, seriously, what the hell? Soupfly isn't even among your top suspects...In case you're not all aware, the deadline is in 4 days
SirWario is getting replaced. I'm willing to see if the replacement is better since some have said the criticisms of SW are a playstyle/demeanor thing.
Are you voting DR right now? At this game's glacial pace, I doubt you need to worry about a quick lynch.
I agree Arakorn might be better off replaced. I can't decide if I want to push a wagon on him based on the uselessness of someone who is unavailable to play the game or not, but I agree I'd have expected him to come down somewhere if he were scum. However- if he's scum, he benefits just as much by delaying things (one more person alive is one more to hide behind).
I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch. At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.-
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I've already said that if we don't get sikario, SirWario, Gorgon to three, I'll take somebody out...why move now?
If you'd read the thread previously, you could have voted me then.
vote: Arakornfor looking for the easy way out.-
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