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wait aren't you from epicmafia????In post 6, eagerSnake wrote:I would post a random vote here, but instead I'll not post a random vote here.-
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is your avi log horizon? it's my fav anime lol
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yaasIn post 20, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Yeah I've seen both of you on EM. Wanna do the study buddy thing, Gerry?In post 16, gerryoat wrote:
wait aren't you from epicmafia????In post 6, eagerSnake wrote:I would post a random vote here, but instead I'll not post a random vote here.-
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In post 30, eagerSnake wrote: @Gerryoat I am eagerSnake on EM.
yas i think we played a few days ago in the Reverse Mafia setup. anyway glad to see you here too-
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I'm calling BS on anyone who gets a serious scumread 4 pages into a game, when most of it is just feeling out and partially random votes that have no meaning behind them. So, anyone who says they actually hard fos someone, is just someone trying actively to look like they are scumhunting, when in reality they aren't.-
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i think this is the worst post so far. He basically repeated what I said and then gave a read that snake and gamma was fluff when everyone has been fluff so far.In post 87, RhazhBash wrote:The page 3 stuff between Snake and Gamma is 100% fluff. I don't see how Victor can be scumreading snake for it either. Regardless I don't see it as alignment indicative.
Also a huge pet peeve of mine is when people waste too much time on setup spec. Setup spec won't win Town the game, so quit it and start posting some real content.-
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sorry, I missed this somehow. Yes, I understand that you can get reads that way, but you have to look at it from my point of view. Some guy just randomly puts out a list of reads only 3 pages into with only "reactionary" votes. It just doesn't seem legit and seems like they are trying to look townie, instead of actually worried about getting the reads correctly. Which is why I'm just weary of it right now. I never said I hard scumread you or anything for it, which is why my vote stays where it is.In post 162, Grendel wrote:@GerryOat
No response?In post 143, Grendel wrote:
If I got reads from nothing but "nullness" then that should be a reason to suspect me right?In post 109, gerryoat wrote:Grendel, I'll say it again, i don't see how you get all those reads in 3 pages of pretty much nullness.
If it is for you then push me. This game needs more clashing.
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I like how that's all it takes for you to change your read on me. But, I actually agree with him. I was actually going to ask you why you TR me, cause I haven't done anything so far that would warrant a townread so far.In post 164, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay.
Null - Gerry (seems reasonable, but hasn't really added much yet.)
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I kinda like Grendel trying to get "conflict" in the game, which in a sense is how you get reads more. So I do slightly tr that from him. But his actions and his words are a bit off right now. He says this game needs more conflict, but he already laid out a list of reads. Why does he keep saying this game needs more conflict when he already has a list of reads 3 pages in.-
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Uh, ok lol. You startIn post 211, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Gerry: I think I'd like to do the same thing Grendel and Eager are doing, if that's okay with you?-
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I think this is town. All of this shows genuine scumhunting and tries to find contradictionsIn post 210, eagerSnake wrote:
I agree with Victor not pursuing his scumread on RhazhBash, or pursuing any other scumread for that matter. Which is funny because he says this:In post 206, Grendel wrote:Victor is something of a null read for me. His town read on Gamma bothers me, but It seems most ppl are cool with Gamma so that tr might not lead anywhere, (that is assuming Gam is scumz). His interaction with CCC is weird in a way I can't seem to pin point yet. I think the worst thing about Victor is that he hasn't pushed the person he is currently voting, Rhazbash, at all. Instead opting to have this convo with CCC that doesn't appear to be going anywhere. So a few odd things, but nothing condemning. And no, I really don't agree with you proposed case on Victor. In fact I can even see how he wasn't bought with you Gamma unvote, you dropped that scum read fast dude.
Post-by-Post Analysis of VictorDeAngelo:In post 200, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Well perhaps, but I'm not one to rely on scum slipping up. I'd much prefer to root them out.
12 RVS vote on eagerSnake
40 Setup spec, asks eagerSnake for reads
74 Statesvote on eagerSnake is now serious
90 Gives reason for vote being serious "shifts reads easily." states he "gets more bad feels" from RhazhBash's post 89, votes RhazhBash
111 Asks CCC for more examples of Jester dodging questions, now thinks Grendel is town, disagrees with Grendels scumread on Gamma
126 Asks Gamma if he finds CCC's post suspicious
137 Assumes my question isn't serious
142 Explanation of his assumption, says he won't admit to being lazy or having an ulterior motive
155 Talk about what is important D1
188 Asks gerryoat what readslists have to do with conflict, states he reads RhazhBash's 87 as defending eagerSnake from him, Asks an unsensible, and unreasonable question to CCC
199 States his answer to eagerSnake's question will be "patronising and not actually lead us anywhere towards catching scum"
200 "I'm not one to rely on scum slipping up. I'd much prefer to root them out."
204 Says eagerSnakes question is not sensible or reasonable
@Grendel will get you my read on gerryoat next-
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Okay, so I guess i just quote what i think about them so far.
Here, I like how he tried to get more reads from eager. It felt like town trying to get more information from someone by asking them to justify their reads.In post 84, Manuel87 wrote:
Can you explain why you think this can be scum?In post 80, eagerSnake wrote:
This, however, can only be a few things:VictorDeAngelo wrote:My vote on eagerSnake is now a serious vote.
A lazy town
A scum
A town with an ulterior motive
When asked to give a fos, he outs one, and gives a semi good reason as to why he has this fos. It wasn't that strong, but that's to be expected that far in.In post 117, Manuel87 wrote:I would say CCC.
I didnt like the statement about math. He is already making excuses for pushing on town day 1.
Later he misreps and votes you for dodging a lot of questions. There was one question you didnt answer but gave an explanation why you wouldnt do.
It just doesnt fit into him saying he takes a mathematik aproach of the game.
Here he is trying to get more information from others to clarify and backup the reads they have about them.In post 153, Manuel87 wrote:@The_Jester: What are your thoughts on Grendel so far?
@Grendel: When you made your read on eagerSnake in 102 was that considering him being your buddy or was that a serious read on his play?
Here is answers a question, and then gives another question (to my scumread which is always good :p)In post 189, Manuel87 wrote:
I generally dont like when ppl say "there are 1-2 scum in this group of people" when the group they are talking about is exactly 50% of the players (self not included)In post 160, Grendel wrote: Do you like/dislike anything else in 102?
Which in return means he also thinks there are 1-2 scum in the other group.
@RhazhBashu: would you mind answering my question in 92
Even though he's only had 10 posts, I'd say he's been trying to get others to speak more as well. I personally have him null leaning town right now.
Can you tell me your reads on RhazhBashu, gamma?
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I kinda liked what he's been saying the past few pages, I don't see myself lynching him currentlyIn post 307, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Gerry: I would like your opinion on CCC still, and would also like thoughts on Square World.-
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square idk, he seemed like he was trying to discredit me for pushing on my scumread, and I still don't see any reason why the person I scumread has done anything townie in his eyes. He says he's an "easy push" But, I don't see it like that.In post 307, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Gerry: I would like your opinion on CCC still, and would also like thoughts on Square World.-
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@RhazhBash can you elaborate what's so scummy about this post? You can't just say "___ is scum cause of this post" And not elaborate as to why. This is why I think you're mafia. Maybe if you explained your reads a bit more. I could change my mind.In post 254, Manuel87 wrote:I dont like how Square world playes but its not a reason to lynch him.
What i dont like about him right now is that he mentioned how eagers analysis on RhazhBash sucks.
While i think he has a valid point that its not really an analysis but rather a summary of what said player posted that game, i dont understand why he only refers to the RhazhBash analysis and not to the ones on Victor and Gerry.
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I TR you because of what you've done all day. Whereas he hasn't done much at all day. Also this post was also townie in itself, so lolIn post 326, Grendel wrote:Gerry, hi, I'd like to know why you don't consider my post 305 to be akin with "___ is scum cause of this post."
I didn't explain why I didn't like 254, or 259. I just said that I didn't like them, and considered it motivation to start scum reading that slot. What Rhazah did is not different from what I did. Quite similar actually. So your selectivity for this argument is quite telling given that Rhazbash is lynch bait, and I am generally town read. It'd be easy to use this on player like Rhaz, but not with me, so youIn post 305, Grendel wrote:
My town read from post 102 has evaporated. Manuel is null veering towards scum now.
I don't feel like dissecting posts 254, 259 tonight, but both rubbed me the wrong way. And I'm not seeing any thing that looks townie since my explanation on why I thought he could be town. He had a lacking presence in today's voices imo.ignore what I didthat would be incriminatory based on your argument, whilethrowing it on the widely scum read dude. Its really not a stretch for you to be opportunistic scum here. If you were a tunneler then this wouldn't be so scummy, but you don't look the type.
Also your town read on me feels very forced. Explain why I'm town in a way that isn't a vague piecemeal statement.-
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No, I was just doing some early questioning, I don't see how that's bad. I was trying to see if there was contradictions in his post. It doesnt make sense that one person would be town for doing something, and the other person not be town for doing the same thingIn post 417, House wrote:In post 391, House wrote:
I get a jealousy vibe from this post.In post 72, gerryoat wrote:Why does Gamma feel like town? I feel like what he's said is basically what I've said when it comes to the setup. Also, I still think it's not needed to talk about what kinda PRs we have
Did it bother you that Gamma got a townread for something you also did? If so, why?
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Because at that point, it had already been said like 5 times. He kept repeating what others had said, it seemed like he was trying to blend in slowly by copying what others would say. It wasn't so much the content, but the situation. At the moment, it felt scummy to me, because it seemed like he was trying to just do the same.In post 418, House wrote:
/poke gerryIn post 392, House wrote:
If Rhaz made "the worst post so far", and "repeated what you said", what does that say about what you said?In post 100, gerryoat wrote:
i think this is the worst post so far. He basically repeated what I said and then gave a read that snake and gamma was fluff when everyone has been fluff so far.In post 87, RhazhBash wrote:The page 3 stuff between Snake and Gamma is 100% fluff. I don't see how Victor can be scumreading snake for it either. Regardless I don't see it as alignment indicative.
Also a huge pet peeve of mine is when people waste too much time on setup spec. Setup spec won't win Town the game, so quit it and start posting some real content.-
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No, this is my only account. Like my 4th game on this site, I think. But, I play mafia elsewhere on Epicmafia, like I pointed out earlier.In post 432, Square World wrote:gerryoat, are you an alt?-
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Who? (Sorry if you answered this already, I'm rereading currently and quoting posts I find interesting enough to reply toIn post 443, House wrote:I have the day two lynch identified as well when CCC flips red.
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If his case brings up a lot of points, how come you want house to be lynched if CCC flips town? I mean, it's possible for town to mislynch someone here. Not everyone can be 100% in their reads. But, if the reads make sense, what is the problem?In post 493, eagerSnake wrote:Your case does bring up a lot of valid points.-
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Why do you guys always post so much when I'm gone, and when I'm here, nothing gets posted. Alright I'm gonna do a reads list from towniest to scummiest
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eagersnake
House
GammaEmerald
Manuel
The_Jester
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VictorDeAngelo
Huntress
SquareWorld
VOTE: SquareWorld
I would prefer to lynch in my bottom 3, that's my prefrence. Nothing Square has said has really stood out to me. He tried to make a werid case on me that didn't make sense, and it seemed he backed off a bit when no one would follow. Grendel, despite fosing me, I think is town for the reasons I stated earlier, he seems like he's actually scumhunting, and trying to find mafia. He also casted doubt on me when I first gave my TR on him, which imo is a TR. I wish he'd just see that I was town too. Eager has had good posts since the beginning and has been consistent the whole time, which I really like. House has really shot up my townread since subbing in. I don't think CCC is the best vote today, but I do like his case on him. But, I also like CCC's responses, so I would prefer not to vote him.-
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In post 236, Square World wrote:
lolIn post 187, gerryoat wrote:@Gren
I fos RhazhBash , hence the vote. I think you have had townie lines like i've explained. I don't see the rush in making reads when we aren't even 10 pages in yet. But, I'd be confident lynching RhazhBash the most right now
VOTE: gerryoatIn post 240, Square World wrote:
noIn post 238, eagerSnake wrote:@Square World can you explain your reads in a bit more detail?
(filler, trying to cast more doubt on me the 2nd time after it didn't work the first time.)In post 432, Square World wrote:gerryoat, are you an alt?
(I'm thinking there is at least 1 maf in there. It might be Victor or CCC, but I'm not really sure.)In post 421, Square World wrote:don't want to lynch Grendel, House, CCC, eagerSnake and VictorDeAngelo
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I'd say after house, things start to get more null, but I have to say that I just liked his posting so far, that's the best I can explain. I mostly just do a top 3 and bottom 3, and focus on them. You manuel jester and gamma are all lumped together in terms of nullness, but I liked his posting especially in the beginning better. In terms of Huntress it seems to me they have been coasting? I haven't seen much from them at all, and when I have, it isn't anything I can say that I agree with much. I'll try to iso her after this post.In post 725, CCC wrote:
I find it surprising that Gamma is so high in your list, and that Huntress is so low. Could I ask you to explain your reads on them a little further?In post 679, gerryoat wrote:Why do you guys always post so much when I'm gone, and when I'm here, nothing gets posted. Alright I'm gonna do a reads list from towniest to scummiest
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eagersnake
House
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VOTE: SquareWorld-
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You had "Lol." as your main reason. give a better case and maybe I'll reconsider, but I don't see him doing anything that scummy to be voted today.In post 734, House wrote:
I'll give you a cookie if you choose eager instead.In post 733, gerryoat wrote:I'll actually give Huntress a pass for today, considering tehy had to do a lot of reading to catch up. So I'd really prefer Square here.-
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Because she arrived late and has been mostly rereading, yet still has outed reads.In post 778, Square World wrote:page 30 question
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In post 749, Square World wrote:page 4
not really thinking manuel is scum anymore
gerryoat + the_jester maybe?In post 778, Square World wrote:page 30 question
gerryoat, you're probtown, though why give huntress a free pass?In post 780, Square World wrote:i'd say scum is in huntress, the_jester and victor, though maybe i accidentally excluded one scum from this listIn post 794, Square World wrote:could consider gerryoat or manuel
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All of his reads are contridiictions. He states manuel is town yet votes him here. He says I'm prob town but says he could consider voting me. He says his biggest scumreads are huntress, jester, victor, yet doesn't push on any of them, and instead goes on the opposite wagon.
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I'm not lynching eager today at least and prob not gamma either. i guess I'd be OK with a Victor vote, but idk why you tr square dude, did you even read my case on them?
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exactly, which is why I am saying, there is no possible way as town he comes up with that vote right there other than to bw on a vote that's now himIn post 882, Huntress wrote:
Square was giving his impressions page by page there. The contradictions you're seeing appear to be the progression of his reads through the game. Although I don't see how he ends up on Manuel.In post 828, gerryoat wrote:All of his reads are contridiictions. He states manuel is town yet votes him here. He says I'm prob town but says he could consider voting me. He says his biggest scumreads are huntress, jester, victor, yet doesn't push on any of them, and instead goes on the opposite wagon.
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