Where?In post 1098, Gamma Emerald wrote:@House it's very simple: Eager was chainsaw defending his buddy.
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Getting my vote isn't a compelling reason?In post 1099, House wrote:
When have I ever given complete reasoning without compelling reason to so?In post 1097, VictorDeAngelo wrote:However, unless there's anything more than you presented yesterday, I think your case against CCC is more noobtells than scumtells.
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These are some excellent points. Also, eager's vote on Gamma was his first (RVS) vote, and he thenIn post 1084, House wrote:To be clear, Gamma... you hopping off eager's wagon is what renewed my suspicion of you. It was a clear distancing attempt after being called out on your scum theater with him.
You getting back on the wagonafter a counterclaimdoes not make you town.
VOTE: Gammavery quicklydecided that Gamma was Town after all... which conflicts with his "everyone's-scum-until-proved-Town" stance, because there really wasn't much to base that judgement on yet. So, of all eager's votes, that seems the most likely one to be bussing.
And you'll probably get my head, too. My continual Townread of Eager yesterday must make me look horribly suspicious.In post 1085, House wrote:
This reads list is trash and I'm coming for your head next.In post 1082, CCC wrote:After some consideration, I'm thinking I should order the current players (based on current impressions) from Towniest to Mafiaest like so:
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Eurgh. ThatIn post 1101, Gamma Emerald wrote:When he said your reasoning against CCC was bad without reading your case.doesmake me look bad.-
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Timing is everything.In post 1102, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
Getting my vote isn't a compelling reason?In post 1099, House wrote:
When have I ever given complete reasoning without compelling reason to so?In post 1097, VictorDeAngelo wrote:However, unless there's anything more than you presented yesterday, I think your case against CCC is more noobtells than scumtells.
That makes me feel bad.
Give town too much time, and scum can squirm out of a valid wagon.-
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You're not the only one that townread eager.In post 1103, CCC wrote:And you'll probably get my head, too. My continual Townread of Eager yesterday must make me look horribly suspicious.
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It doesn't really matter why you think I'm Mafia. Because the reason I quoted above, combined with your success in outing eagerSnake on day one, is probably enough reason for people to agree with your read and push my wagon all the way.In post 1106, House wrote:
You're not the only one that townread eager.In post 1103, CCC wrote:And you'll probably get my head, too. My continual Townread of Eager yesterday must make me look horribly suspicious.
Want to try again?
At which point you'll find out that you're wrong, because I am Town. But you're stubborn enough that I don't think I can persuade you of that.
I do, however, think that - after going through other people's day one Gamma reads, and after noting how Eager's votes on Gamma (and Gamma's after-the-counterclaim vote on Eager) look more like bussing than genuine voting, and considering that youwereactually right about Eager - I do think I put Gamma too high in my recent list.
So I think that the last two Mafia can probably be found in {Gamma Emerald, The_Jester, gerry_oat}. I'd rather like to hear from each of these people before deciding where to put my vote (and preferably from everyone else too)... but, at the moment, I'd definitely prefer to put my vote inside that set.-
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please explain why i'm mafia. because i tr eagersnake? like a few other people? Yes, because as mafia i'd hard buddy my GOON. especially when he was getting lynched.In post 1086, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I have to admit I don't understand you CCC. However I kinda think you might be town. It helps that the guy at the bottom of your list is the same guy I wanted to open with today:
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You even admit we had the same read on square. So what makes me mafia then? If we both had the same reads?? please explainIn post 1089, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
Hey, I wasn't wrong about Manuel, I was wrong about SquareWorldIn post 1087, House wrote:
Everybody was wrong about Manuel, and you're wrong about gerry.In post 1086, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I have to admit I don't understand you CCC. However I kinda think you might be town. It helps that the guy at the bottom of your list is the same guy I wanted to open with today:
VOTE: gerryoat
Vote the obvscum so we can finish this game please. I'd like a perfect town win on this one.
Let's assume your wrong on at least one of Gamma/CCC. What's your current read on Gerry?-
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It's this kind of shading that makes me hesitant to change my read, because you are well aware that my reads do change, as my scumread of you in our last game together evaporated, albeit too late for me to feel comfortable dismantling your wagon.In post 1107, CCC wrote:At which point you'll find out that you're wrong, because I am Town. But you're stubborn enough that I don't think I can persuade you of that.
Doesn't change the fact you know I unvoted you and started that I was longer scumreading you.
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And that's straight up bullshit.In post 1107, CCC wrote:It doesn't really matter why you think I'm Mafia.
Town should be demanding reasons so they can refute them.
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It's more than that. What made me look at you again, was the way you deflected my vote off eagersnake onto Square at the end of yesterday. If my vote stuck at the time it would made snake a viable counter wagon to manuel (who would likely be the mislynch instead). Shame for you, it didn't matter for you in the end.In post 1108, gerryoat wrote:
please explain why i'm mafia. because i tr eagersnake? like a few other people?In post 1086, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I have to admit I don't understand you CCC. However I kinda think you might be town. It helps that the guy at the bottom of your list is the same guy I wanted to open with today:
VOTE: gerryoat
I also looked over your interactions with snake again over night, and you seemed to simply townread snake early on and never wavered, nor delivered any specifics. Sure other people townread eagersnake but what I'd like to know is why you did? So what made eager so town to you?
I'm sorry, do you want towncred for not bussing or something? Cause that's ridiculous.Yes, because as mafia i'd hard buddy my GOON. especially when he was getting lynched.
.gerryoat wrote: You even admit we had the same read on square. So what makes me mafia then? If we both had the same reads?? please explain
More crap. You can't claim that because we shared one read means you can't be scum.
Ah, sweet OMGUS. With bogus reasoning. I'm going to make myself confortable on Gerry wagon. Who'd like to join me?gerryoat wrote:VOTE: victor
Unless victor explains how me having the same tr and sr as him makes me mafia, I'm lynching him today.-
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No.In post 1113, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
It's more than that. What made me look at you again, was the way you deflected my vote off eagersnake onto Square at the end of yesterday. If my vote stuck at the time it would made snake a viable counter wagon to manuel (who would likely be the mislynch instead). Shame for you, it didn't matter for you in the end.In post 1108, gerryoat wrote:
please explain why i'm mafia. because i tr eagersnake? like a few other people?In post 1086, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I have to admit I don't understand you CCC. However I kinda think you might be town. It helps that the guy at the bottom of your list is the same guy I wanted to open with today:
VOTE: gerryoat
I also looked over your interactions with snake again over night, and you seemed to simply townread snake early on and never wavered, nor delivered any specifics. Sure other people townread eagersnake but what I'd like to know is why you did? So what made eager so town to you?
I'm sorry, do you want towncred for not bussing or something? Cause that's ridiculous.Yes, because as mafia i'd hard buddy my GOON. especially when he was getting lynched.
.gerryoat wrote: You even admit we had the same read on square. So what makes me mafia then? If we both had the same reads?? please explain
More crap. You can't claim that because we shared one read means you can't be scum.
Ah, sweet OMGUS. With bogus reasoning. I'm going to make myself confortable on Gerry wagon. Who'd like to join me?gerryoat wrote:VOTE: victor
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[quote="In post 1113
It's more than that. What made me look at you again, was the way you deflected my vote off eagersnake onto Square at the end of yesterday. If my vote stuck at the time it would made snake a viable counter wagon to manuel (who would likely be the mislynch instead). Shame for you, it didn't matter for you in the end.
I also looked over your interactions with snake again over night, and you seemed to simply townread snake early on and never wavered, nor delivered any specifics. Sure other people townread eagersnake but what I'd like to know is why you did? So what made eager so town to you?
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>deflected?
I literally hard scumread square since mid day 1. And I was trying to get everyone to vote him instead of whoever they were voting? So wtf are you talking about. I wasn't protecting anyone. People were voting CCC, manuel, gamma and I tried to get them to vote square instead. so that read is bullshit-
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Please stop creating noise, you two.
Neither of you are getting lynched unless one of CCC or Gamma flips town.
If you want to be productive, get on one of those two or tell me why I'm wrong.-
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Yes, square was the one scumread you pushed, I won't dispute that. However you didn't try to derail the other wagons.In post 1115, gerryoat wrote:
>deflected?
I literally hard scumread square since mid day 1. And I was trying to get everyone to vote him instead of whoever they were voting? So wtf are you talking about. I wasn't protecting anyone. People were voting CCC, manuel, gamma and I tried to get them to vote square instead. so that read is bullshit
You liked the case on CCC although you constantly said you wouldn't vote for him, which is pretty yuck in and of itself.
You were pretty much ready to hammer to Manuel.
Not sure where Gamma was properly wagoned, though everyone suspected him.
Yet, my vote on eager was the only one you seemed to pull away.
You wouldn't know my reasons, because you asked for an explanation @ 20:00 and then voted 20:01 and creating a reason that isn't true.gerryoat wrote:"sweet omgus" beause you've outed no read for why im mafia. you literally have no reason to fos me. When others TR eager as well, and others SR square as well. You said i was deflecting votes, but I was deflecting votes off everyone, not just eager
So yeah, it gives me a lot more confidence I'm not barking up the wrong tree.
gerryoat wrote:Also, I TR eager based on his town and reads. The same reason i began to TR house as well
1) Generic reason is generic.gerryoat wrote:I believe i did the same for grendel too. so, again, your logic makes no sense once more. Because I did it to others more than eager. So please try again. Why am I mafia?
2) These three players had different reads, no way you could be townreading them all for this same reason. This is just wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong....-
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In post 1119, House wrote:Please stop creating noise, you two.
Neither of you are getting lynched unless one of CCC or Gamma flips town.
If you want to be productive, get on one of those two or tell me why I'm wrong.-
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I already told you why I don't agree with your CCC read!In post 1119, House wrote:Please stop creating noise, you two.
Neither of you are getting lynched unless one of CCC or Gamma flips town.
If you want to be productive, get on one of those two or tell me why I'm wrong.-
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