Why aren't you asking me about it?In post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
VOTE: outoforder
Why aren't you asking me about it?In post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
What more of an explanation is there? I looked at the thread, saw a few votes on you, and thought "lel imma gonna vote him."In post 66, outoforder wrote:Right. I also have 14 irl days to make a decision. Right now (as per my last post) his explanation is not satisfying at all.In post 64, doomfeathers wrote:If hapahauli thought you were scum, and knew you don't respond to pressure as scum, why would he pressure you? By your logic, you should be scumreading him.outoforder wrote:doomfeathers does anything else stick out to you other than me atm?
I don't understand how that's separate. OoO's "mini-game" has everything to do with the fact that him, Rels, and I have played on other websites.In post 84, KidAmn wrote:Literally my only comment on that interaction was to say it was a clusterfuck and should not continue (and yes, for some reason I mixed Creature in there because I had been quoting him above to snark at his early posting, and because Rels literally hasn't posted this game, so apologies to Creature). I then moved on to a completely separate point about Ooo's refusal to give his own opinions until people have played his little mini-game.hapahauli wrote:Not reading properly =/= mafia.
Reading something as a "clusterfuck", criticizing it as confusing/pointless, and then engaging in said clusterfuck is likely mafia. The story is inconsistent. Posting for the sake of posting, etc.
That was supposed to be:KidAmn calls the whole thing between myself, OoO, and Creature town.
The next two sentences dont' make much sense without the added words.KidAmn calls the whole thing between msyelf, OoO and Creatureunproductive totown.
This makes sense.2nd is simply untrue again - as I explained before, the issue wasn't the conversation itself, but the refusal to discuss further with anyone else until the conversation happened, and the issue of backpedalling was that Ooo told DF to back off, then went back in #53 and tried to explain how he wasn't really telling him to back off
That was supposed to be:KidAmn calls the whole thing between myself, OoO, and Creature town.
The next two sentences dont' make much sense without the added words.KidAmn calls the whole thing between msyelf, OoO and Creatureunproductive totown.
This makes sense.2nd is simply untrue again - as I explained before, the issue wasn't the conversation itself, but the refusal to discuss further with anyone else until the conversation happened, and the issue of backpedalling was that Ooo told DF to back off, then went back in #53 and tried to explain how he wasn't really telling him to back off
I guess it's funny how environment influences play. It's not like I'm trying to do something natural for the sake of blending in. I've just seen so much of it reading games for the past month that dropping an RVS vote felt like second nature.In post 129, outoforder wrote:(1) Why? Why would you ever do that? Why would you "feel the need to feel natural" for something you don't feel comfortable with? I couldn't confirm this (if you actually do that - or if you are telling the truth here) in any way since all the games lately (in past 2 yrs) you have played here were games where you replaced in later on in the game. What do "different expectations" matter when you are dealing with a person who doesn't give any fucks about these "different expectations"?In post 124, hapahauli wrote:@ OoO
Regarding my "RVS" vote:
I absolutely would vote "for the lulz" for you. This is not TL - there are different expectations for voting, especially early on. Dropping a random vote is something I've seen so often here, that it feels natural to do so. You're right that there's no way I'd do it on TL as either alignment.
Regarding "the makes sense" comment:
I'm saying that KidAmn's story makes sense, and therefore I have no reason to continue voting him. His explanation for how he is tunneling you for separate reasons makes sense - not necessarily his read on you itself. A lot of cases I make on mafia are based on thought-process - whether the story someone is telling is inconsistent or contradictory. So here, I'm dealing entirely with KidAmn's thought process (which he showed wasn't contradictory). That has very little to do with the validity of his scumread on you. You're not a player I can generally read until later in the game anyway.
It's precisely because he was repeating it that I unvoted him. He clearly demonstrated that he thought he was pressuring you on an issue separate from the "clusterfuck." And his thinking is all that matters.(2) But you were voting for him because his story was inconsistent in the first place, no? His story hasn't changed so how it suddenly became consistent?
^This probably sounds like I'm changing my story, but whatever. "Lul I'm voting Rayn" also had quite a lot to do with it. It was a very instinctual play that had a lot of little background thoughts running through it, and wasn't the deliberate, conscious vote that you seem to think it is.
Because describing a feeling is difficult.In post 144, outoforder wrote:Okay, if i was to believe this is true, why didn't you say "2) I voted for ooo because i wanted to provoke a reaction from other people" in the second place?In post 135, hapahauli wrote:^This probably sounds like I'm changing my story, but whatever. "Lul I'm voting Rayn" also had quite a lot to do with it. It was a very instinctual play that had a lot of little background thoughts running through it, and wasn't the deliberate, conscious vote that you seem to think it is.
There isn't anything for me to do but to continually rephrase myself until you get it.In post 155, outoforder wrote:Okay, i am trying to be as clear as i can here. My problem is that you first said your vote is for lulz. When you got called out of that - with reasoning that your original post where you voted for me doesn't really go along with the explanation, you give another explanation. When i ask you why didn't you give the second explanation in the first - or even in the second - place, you go back to the first explanation.In post 149, hapahauli wrote:[quote="In post 144,
Because describing a feeling is difficult.
You're working under an assumption that I thought through the RVS vote when I posted it. There wasn't much thought. It just felt right. And I'm just going to sound incoherent when I'm trying to describe what my gut was telling me to do in a situation. It wasn't until after you started questioning me on it that I spent any time thinking about what my gut feelz were.
I mean, you did something for a reason. No matter how smart/dumb the reason is, for me it seems like when i ask you for the reason, you go from reason A to reason B from time to time.
Don't you wish it was that easy?
It's not any particular questions I have issues with. Asking questions isn't bad. Asking questions that don't accomplish much is scummy. Perhaps how valuable questions are is subjective, but multiple people have taken issue with it so far.And we get to the gist of me pining Aubrey. "trying to ask questions that don't exactly amount to much." This is the expansion of me "pinging" you. So my 6 posts in the first 2 pages of D1 are suspect because I am asking questions. WTF? Wait...asking questions surely isn't bad....it's that they don't amount to much (your opinion btw). Let's ISO/analyze those 6 posts.
19 - RVS on OoO (with a gameplay assist). No question.
24 - Asking Creature about his scum impression on Aubrey. HTF is that a bad question?
30 - Still engaged with Creature. A courtesy question to OoO followed by a question to understand his early hana suspicions...are they based on MS or a different site. And this is bad because?
34 - Banter with Doom and a thank to Creature for giving an actual response.
43 - Trying to figure out wth Creature is talking about when he says "there are many players being boring there". I thought he might have been referring to a different mafia site (ala TLM) and therefore possibly a 4th member of the TLM bunch.
51 - This is essentially a passive aggressive dig on my part at Doom to say he doesn't need anyone's approval to ask anything. This on the heels of a game we just played where I thought he put too much credence into the opinions of other players.
So there are my D1 first two page pre Aubrey pinging posts. Please let me know which questions you have issue with.
Rels is not SlySly. He's not an alt - it's his first game on the site.In post 252, Creature wrote:Rels is SlySly and SlySly's play here is town.
That's well and nice, but what's scummy about us?In post 270, Creature wrote:hapahauli, Allomancer and Moogin can be my scumreads.
He's pretty critical of people "coasting", but that's basically what he's doing himself this game. He has 16 posts, most of which were made while defending himself from my early-game push against him. Scum love to criticize town for fucking up, but do nothing themselves to help the situation.In post 276, KidAmn wrote:I know, I do have a relatively busy life outside of this site though, especially on weekends.In post 254, Aubrey wrote:Kid needs to make re-showing too.
Far too many people coasting along not posting at all right now.F.E.C.'s complete lack of any content and then suddenly 4 posts in a row attacking Aubrey and Creature is all kinds of weird and feels a lot like someone maintaining the absolute minimum required to stay in the game - whether or not that's "scummy" is hard to say, but it's an incredibly anti-town way to play (and yes, there is a difference between "anti-town" and "scummy".
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In post 276, KidAmn wrote: Similarly something feels off to me about Creature - the rather blasé nature of their posting, throwing out town and scum-reads with little to no reasoning (looking at their ISO, their longest post is a whole 3 lines?)... it just comes across as the opposite of "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" - and certainly not a tale told by an idiot. It's deliberate and I dislike it, but unfortunately it matches up with looking at their posting in a couple of other games I've looked at. Having Allomancer as one of their scumreads despite them being so inactive they've picked up a prod also feels lazy as hell, as if they're covering themselves by saying "I had a scumread on Allomancer" for if/when a "fuck it, get rid of these lurkers" wagon happens.
In the first post, he calls Creature mafia for questionable reasons. This isn't inherently scummy - I'd understand why a less experienced townie could call Creature mafia for his posting style.In post 278, KidAmn wrote:I've been driving the wife around all day, cut a fella some slack on the meme game.
As for the vote - Honestly, right now I could go for F.E.C. or Creature, but I'm willing to give both a chance to respond (Creature more-so as my issue with him seems to just behow he plays). Moogin needs to contribute way more than they have so far, so not disagreeable to putting some pressure there either.
For as much as he criticizes Moogin for not having scumreads, Kop actually doesn't have any documented scumreads of his own outside of the Aubrey early game thing.In post 289, Kop wrote:Can you specify why you think they are town? Because if you have read through you'd have at least a few scum reads along with your town. It shouldn't take someone to prod you to find out where you are in terms of who you suspect.In post 282, MooginSoosy wrote:Hi, sorry, I know I said I was going to post more and then I disappeared. Last night and this morning got really busy so I didnt have time to participate. I'm free all weekend so I'll be on way more.
I think OoO and rels are town. I'm leaning towards creature being town as well.
I know it's scummy to not post or post sporadically, but I'm here now and I'll be here all weekend
What do you mean? None of my reads are based on timelines or anything of that sort. I'm reading KidAmn and Fitz as mafia based on how they portray themselves in individual posts vs. their actions in the rest of their filter. I think Kop is suspicious because he's reading Moogin as mafia for something that could be said about his filter.In post 456, outoforder wrote:Hapa. Tomorrow when i go through all this is there gonna be contradictions timelinewise? If i find one i am gonna call you scum. If i do not, youre town.
There's nothing hypocritical about any of my reads.In post 463, doomfeathers wrote:Awesomeness! Congratulations!Hawk wrote:My baby girl was just born! Will be back later maybe earlier than tomorrow just felt like sharing!!!
Here we see hapahauli listing reasons why his scumread might be wrong shortly after saying this:In post 454, hapahauli wrote:still is probably my second strongest read. I did not like his "wall-o-text" catchup post in the least bit. It's like he made it intentionally super hard to read, while criticizing OoO's wall for being hard-to-read.Fitz
Though two things give me pause (and have me wanting KidAmn dead first):
1) Multiple people have been complaining about OoO's post-length, which makes it possible that being anti-wall-of-text is some standard mafiascum meta thing.
2) I've seen townies do the "post while catching up wall-of-text" before, and they always read as very awkward/scummy to me.
I think there's a chance that Fitz is just a really awkward poster. Not a large chance, but certainly more of a chance than KidAmn.Also, he's been criticizing hypocrisy. Please get your reads together, dude.In post 452, hapahauli wrote:The thought process of a townie is "I think <player> is mafia, therefore I should vote <player>."
NOT
"<Player> can be town for <reasons>, but I'm cool with voting him anyway."
That's not a town mentality. Town want to lynch players that they're suspicious of, not players who they have reasons to think are NOT suspicious.
If hapahauli eventually flips scum, I think KidAmn is probably more likely town, and havingfitz and/or Kop are more likely to be scum. He could be distancing without having to vote one of them.
Now that I have an excuse:
VOTE: Kop
For how much people talk about voting him, nobody's been actually doing it.
KidAmn never complained about OoO's post length.Though two things give me pause (and have me wanting KidAmn dead first):
1) Multiple people have been complaining about OoO's post-length, which makes it possible that being anti-wall-of-text is some standard mafiascum meta thing.
2) I've seen townies do the "post while catching up wall-of-text" before, and they always read as very awkward/scummy to me.
Lynching scum is pretty productive.In post 466, KidAmn wrote: I don't have a ton of time to respond to all this bullshit where Hapahauli runs back to his first scum-reads again to drum up a counter wagon instead of doing anything productive, so I'm just gonna make some things clear:
All of this is OMGUS and ignores why I actually think you're mafia. It's very deflectionary and dodges all the important points.- I'm "coasting" because I work 50 hours a week in an environment where I don't get to spend my time sat at a desk posting walls of waffle about interactions with players on a completely different site, so yes, my posting is sporadic
- The idea that being willing to give FEC and Creature a chance to respond to my issues is scummy is straight up bullshit. If giving people chances to respond is anti-town and making use of the time the town has to discuss things is anti-town then I want a ticket to whatever bizzaro world you're on. You also conveniently ignore that my issue isn't just with his style of posting, I also referred to the fact that he was throwing out town and scum reads with little reasoning behind them AND him throwing a town read on Allomancer who had done nothing of note all game
- You conveniently ignore that my other scum read at the time (FEC) was solidly based on a series of particularly scummy looking posts
PEDIT - as Doomfeather says you literally do the thing you accuse me of where you call kop scum and then list a bunch of reasons he could be town
In summary, bite my shiny metal ass
VOTE: Hapahauli
Kop is not my second strongest read. Where do you get that?In post 472, KidAmn wrote:You call Kop your second strongest read and then follow it with a list of reasons he might not be scum, one of which is his posting style with bigass walls of text catchup, while criticising me for having a weak scum-read on Creature but admitting that part of my issue could just be his posting style
Do you not see the contradiction there
Which part of this applies to you?Though two things give me pause (and have me wanting KidAmn dead first):
1) Multiple people have been complaining about OoO's post-length, which makes it possible that being anti-wall-of-text is some standard mafiascum meta thing.
2) I've seen townies do the "post while catching up wall-of-text" before, and they always read as very awkward/scummy to me.
Regarding Fitz, I didn't explain that very well. I say "intentionally designed to look bad" more to illustrate a point. The post is so comically hard to read and get anything useful out of, that he may as well have designed it to look bad.In post 486, Rels wrote:The bolded is weird. Why would Fitz do something obviously bad ?In post 454, hapahauli wrote:still is probably my second strongest read. I did not like his "wall-o-text" catchup post in the least bit.FitzIt's like he made it intentionally super hard to read,while criticizing OoO's wall for being hard-to-read.
Though two things give me pause (and have me wanting KidAmn dead first):
1) Multiple people have been complaining about OoO's post-length, which makes it possible that being anti-wall-of-text is some standard mafiascum meta thing.
2) I've seen townies do the "post while catching up wall-of-text" before, and they always read as very awkward/scummy to me.
I think there's a chance that Fitz is just a really awkward poster. Not a large chance, but certainly more of a chance than KidAmn.
About 1), didn't you say you already played in this forum ? Why are you not aware of that ?
It's more the "In post 508, Aubrey wrote:I don't think (though could be wrong) that "In post 506, hapahauli wrote:This is the first game I've seen the anti wall of text thing mentioned, but given how many players have mentioned it so far, I'm thinking it could be a meta think I haven't been exposed to until now.big walls of text = scum" is a very common thought process here. I for one don't gravitate towards that mindset. Younger Aubrey walled the shit outa his games as town.
What updates on Fitz? Also, what do you make of KidAmn and Kop? I haven't heard you talk much about them in a while. I'd like your comments on my case in particular.Huge walls of text is kinda frowned upon though. Like the one Fitz posted. Like holy shit, condense your thoughts a bit. I shouldn't have to go through ALL OF THAT just to locate every little thing that he asked me, when you can just group all your thoughts on a player in one specific area of a post. That is where editing needs to be considered before posting.
Rels and OoO definitely are NOT confident in their suspicion of me. Rels recently unvoted me. OoO mentioned that my posting is probably town unless I'm being super misleading about something in my case.hapa is suspect because 1) a town read for me (Rel) and a TBD for me but generally townread OoO both appear extremely confident in their suspicions of hapa. For more gut I would say than solid fact but familiarity does deserve consideration. I also really dislike the way hapa eased on to my wagon in support of the Aubrey (crap) suspicions towards me and then seemed to backtrack on the crux of Aubrey's case (my questions) and say it wasn't any particular questions more so than that multiple people had issue with them. Oh...and that I ironically warned OoO against wall posting in my wall post.
The bolded is absolute horse-shit.In post 549, Aubrey wrote:I remember him attempting to push Creature at one point. He basically said, "In post 544, hapahauli wrote:Also, I don't think people realize just how damning the evidence is against KidAmn.
KidAmn doesn't give a shit about voting someone for non alignment indicative reasons, and that's a glaring mafia trait. It does not make sense from a town perspective to:
a) Point out reasons why someone could be mafia and anti-town.
b) Call those same reasons non-alignment indicative
c) Vote a player based on those very non-alignment indicative reasons.
Townies want to lynch mafia. Mafia want to make excuses to lynch townies. KidAmn clearly falls in the latter category here.your doing X which is scummy, but it could also be your play style." Then I guess he said something along the lines of he'd be willing to vote him or something. Whatever. What was important that caught my eye here was; if he were scum wanting to push an easy slot, then why would he even remotely weaken his own argument against creature? I'd push that shit hard (ignoring his meta) and just keep bitching about how it isnt all that proactive for town blah blah blah.
I think he is town, who didn't know where to really put his vote at the time, and was just talking out loud.Ialso think you are exploiting an easy push here.Whether this is scum or townie blinded by his own head I have yet to discern (and honestly I still need to take a deeper re-read of what all was talked about yesterday and your case). I do know if you are still alive and both Fitz and Kid end up dead as town,You're going to be a solid number 1 target of interest for me.
Just blasting out my thoughts.
I think I've ben mislynched twice in all the years I've played this game. Rels and OoO haven't mislynched me ever in particular, and barely anyone actually has.In post 568, havingfitz wrote:Iirc they have both been on you fairly aggressively most of the game. And OoO is still voting you and appears to be putting a case together on you. Rels has moved on for the moment but I'd rather him removing his suspicions towards you.In post 543, hapahauli wrote:Rels and OoO definitely are NOT confident in their suspicion of me. Rels recently unvoted me. OoO mentioned that my posting is probably town unless I'm being super misleading about something in my case.
There's not a lot of substance for reading me as mafia here other than that I'm suspicious of you.
@hapa....have Rels or OoO ever mislynched you?
And just being suspicious of me isn't suspect. It's the disjointed adoption of Aubrey's "pinging" sensations towards me that I find suspect.
In post 582, cassielle wrote: ...
ooo town
doomfeathers town
hawk townie
aubrey nulltown
havingfitz null
kop null
kidamn null
rels nullscum
creature scummy
moogin scum
hapa scum
It's apparently cool to call people scum without reasons.
No reasons.In post 582, cassielle wrote:readslist based on a light read under conditions of sleep deprivation
ooo town
doomfeathers town
hawk townie
aubrey nulltown
havingfitz null
kop null
kidamn null
rels nullscum
creature scummy
moogin scum
hapa scum
im not voting yet however
...
I "feel" like coasting scum. No justification.In post 597, cassielle wrote:...
hapa feels like coasting scum, sort of just a tone read, lot of communicating around people and subject dodging
Creature is bussing me because (reasons not found).In post 614, cassielle wrote:thats thin reasoning
1 act (even if it is a consistent one) is not enough to lynchvote someone. pressurevote, ok. but. but, town could easily be in a state where theyre uneasy throwing votes around in case scum push the wagon home on a ML and theyre not confident enough to single out a read and say "this is the one". among other things
im not defending the slot, im saying your vote has poor justification. you should remedy that and build a better case imo... although kop's slot has pretty small amounts of meaningful content to read, so it might not be possible
either way i prefer other wagons for today. for instance i am pretty sure creature is bussing hapa atm: its a classic scum-location on the wagon, a poor push with no attempts at town!Creature's usual laconic wagon pushing, and creature didnt even skim to see nothing had changed since the last vc (just a page ago, 2 pages now) which shows a bit more than simple disinterest (which is itself a light scumtell for Creature anyway)
i want to push the hapa wagon but id rather push the creature wagon for d1 because i think we get more out of letting hapa have rope to lynch himself with d2 atm
and im unconvinced on kop atm, tho i think i could be persuaded to change my mind. either way i dont like that wagon, feels like lynchbait
Creature is bussing me because (reasons not found).In post 619, cassielle wrote:i have offsite experience (not a ton but enough) and ive read a lot of games, both in realtime and otherwise
im not an alt, but i am (i guess, in a sense) experienced, i just havent been drowned in site meta much so occasionally i come off the opposite (noob)
i dont usually like pre-flip associatives unless i scumread all slots involved, and then its to say "and which one of these is the best for today", but heres the gist of where that goes:
hapa is active, not making a very good showing for himself, and generally stinks of scumplay
creature is lurky, pushing other folks wagons with no original reasoning, and playing to his scum meta (which most players here seem unaware of)
this means hapa will not be much harder to point at d2, and creature can probably hide among the townies d2, not to mention that a scum slot defending creature d2 could very well push "lurking is nai" (true but irrelevant) and save his slot from the lynch before we recognized what was happening. on the other hand hapa is so widely scumread that i'd bet even bucks his non-creature partner was already on wagon when creature joined (and that both will be on wagon if hes the lynch du jour)
i scumread them both, and creature and hapa have been distancing in a very artificial way (as you yourself noticed) from game start, and hapa is getting the short end of the stick there
this tells me hapa is the designated scumteam scapegoat, and that tells me that creature is the one to take out of the two due to the scumteam thinking hes a stronger player for them -- IF my scumreads are both correct.
however, its important to note, i dont think its incredibly super important of the order. id like creature d1 but if he coasts i dont think town suffers much now that ive pointed at why it would be risky, and hapas the easy lynch with scum quite possibly helping push it. my preference for the creature wagon isnt strong, it just exists
Of course it's true. What's the case? No one's posting it.In post 684, KidAmn wrote:Or you're her strongest scum-read and she wants to get the wagon on you to the end on a long D1. Not to mention that the scum having day-talk makes your first point null and void since as the wagon on you grew you could very easily as scum say to your team "bus me while looking for other wagons we can derail on in case the town can't finish the job here". Also, repeatedly stating "there's no real case on me whaarblgarble ur all trash" does not make this true.In post 682, hapahauli wrote:What's more likely here? That I went into this game screaming at my team to bus me? Or that there are quite a few mafia members suspicious of me for super sketchy reasons that don't make sense anymore.
It's very clear that Cassielle is mafia. How she's tunneling me is not confirmation bias. She's suspicious of me because it's the popular thing to do, and never had any interest in figuring out my alignment.
No, it's the way she's going about it.In post 685, Hawk wrote:Is your only case against Cassielle that she is tunneling? Cause if so that's a pretty weak case, and basically just OMGUS....In post 682, hapahauli wrote:What's more likely here? That I went into this game screaming at my team to bus me? Or that there are quite a few mafia members suspicious of me for super sketchy reasons that don't make sense anymore.
It's very clear that Cassielle is mafia. How she's tunneling me is not confirmation bias. She's suspicious of me because it's the popular thing to do, and never had any interest in figuring out my alignment.
Give me a read list because I haven't seen much from you besides blargh blargh OMGUS, I'm not Scum blargh blargh!
Willing to vote me.In post 676, doomfeathers wrote:Let it hereby be known that I would vote hapahauli at this point if I didn't want to keep the day going for a while yet.
Says I "feel like coasting scum." Never substantiates this. Treats me as confirmed mafia without attempting to converse with me since, and does so much as to call Creature mafia based on a bussing theory with me.In post 597, cassielle wrote:...
hapa feels like coasting scum, sort of just a tone read, lot of communicating around people and subject dodging
Calls me scum, largely because I had been V/LA for three days and not posting at all in thread.In post 441, outoforder wrote:I agree with this again.In post 432, Rels wrote:And Hapa is still the best lynch. Just because we are not talking about him doesn't erase that.
In fact i agree with it this much:
VOTE: Hapahauli
Then openly states that my catch-up post makes me town if there are no contradictions in the timeline (to which no one has found any, and Doomfeather's "catch" doesn't count for reasons explained above.).In post 456, outoforder wrote:Hapa. Tomorrow when i go through all this is there gonna be contradictions timelinewise? If i find one i am gonna call you scum. If i do not, youre town.
I'm mafia because I'm not "showing my potential." Unclear what this even is.In post 281, Creature wrote:hapahauli isn't showing his potential.
Reason 1 is wrong. Rels retracted his read on me. OoO (see above).hapa is suspect because 1) a town read for me (Rel) and a TBD for me but generally townread OoO both appear extremely confident in their suspicions of hapa. For more gut I would say than solid fact but familiarity does deserve consideration. I also really dislike the way hapa eased on to my wagon in support of the Aubrey (crap) suspicions towards me and then seemed to backtrack on the crux of Aubrey's case (my questions) and say it wasn't any particular questions more so than that multiple people had issue with them. Oh...and that I ironically warned OoO against wall posting in my wall post.
I've been reading throughIn post 281, Creature wrote:hapahauli isn't showing his potential.
Again,In post 695, doomfeathers wrote:@hapahauli: You've grandly missed the point of my scumread on you. I was saying that you've been posting in a way that's full of fluff and pointless arguments, with little memorable content, for a lot of the game so far. Then later, you go crazy defending yourself and do nothing else.
Hapa continues to flail. I agree with Hawk that it's little more than OMGUS. If he's intending to be lynched, he's doing a good job.
@cass (and anyone else who wants to answer): Would Creature as scum continue to bus after the town starts figuring that's what's going on? Would it be too risky for him to stop? I'm almost thinking he would find a reason to retract his vote since completing the bus would only make people more suspicious of him.
She's very clearly not if you're reading her read on me.In post 698, Rels wrote:she's trying to solve the game and that shows. Or she's faking it well. She says things that are weird but the way she's talking abuot a lot of things is super townieIn post 696, hapahauli wrote:No way cassy looks town to you. How does she read me as mafia as strongly as she does with the reasons she posted? How does she push Creature instead as an associative bussing theory instead of the guy the theory relies on (me)?