Alright, and i am gonna say knowing you it's more likely it comes from mafia!hapahauli than town one.In post 71, hapahauli wrote:In post 66, outoforder wrote: What more of an explanation is there? I looked at the thread, saw a few votes on you, and thought "lel imma gonna vote him."
"Slight townlean" doesn't mean "is absolutely town". His posting is more likely to come from town motivation. He's not being cautious or trying to blend in with the crowd.In post 72, hapahauli wrote:Now both of you need to describe to me how KidAmn's posting is town-readable.
I don't care. I vote when i actually am fairly certain someone is scum. If people wanna paint it as hesitant scum then they do. ^^
It's a hard life.In post 35, doomfeathers wrote:Never mind, sorry. Aubrey's a guy. I assumed Aubrey was a girl because I've only heard the name as a girl's name.
Hi. I'm at work. Don't expect much until like....tomorrow maybe.In post 40, Creature wrote:Where's Aubrey? We must call her to solve the game
This is a bit harsh...and that's coming from me. LOL.In post 55, outoforder wrote:I think you lack a lot of reading comprehension.
I wouldn't read into this to seriously.In post 73, doomfeathers wrote:In post 23, Creature wrote:Aubrey's giving the most scum impression so far.In post 27, Creature wrote:Ugh when someone wants me to describe "impressions"In post 31, Creature wrote:Okay, they aren't very serious, but when I vote in RVS, I vote whom I have a feeling that's most likely scum.So you have gut reads, but can't explain what posts led you to those reads, and you're now wishing for the help of your top scumread in solving the game? I'd figure you were just RVS voting Aubrey because you know him, but you've said twice that you have a reason for voting Aubrey.In post 40, Creature wrote:Where's Aubrey? We must call her to solve the game
Calling it as I see it. Asking questions and then when asked to give his own opinion saying "nope, you don't get that info right now and if you keep pushing it you're not helping town" is not pro-town play.In post 61, hapahauli wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: KidAmn
Yeah no. You do not get to call the early situation a "clusterfuck" and then throw fuel on the fire.
Literally my only comment on that interaction was to say it was a clusterfuck and should not continue (and yes, for some reason I mixed Creature in there because I had been quoting him above to snark at his early posting, and because Rels literally hasn't posted this game, so apologies to Creature). I then moved on to a completely separate point about Ooo's refusal to give his own opinions until people have played his little mini-game.hapahauli wrote:Not reading properly =/= mafia.
Reading something as a "clusterfuck", criticizing it as confusing/pointless, and then engaging in said clusterfuck is likely mafia. The story is inconsistent. Posting for the sake of posting, etc.
Elsewhere, and not in a format I can link it.In post 59, doomfeathers wrote:KidAmn, you seem pretty confident. Do you have previous experience on this site or elsewhere?
I don't get if it's a joke or not. It doesn't make sense if it's seriousIn post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
Any other comments to make? Anything at all to say about the last 4 pages?In post 85, Rels wrote:I don't get if it's a joke or not. It doesn't make sense if it's seriousIn post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
I don't understand how that's separate. OoO's "mini-game" has everything to do with the fact that him, Rels, and I have played on other websites.In post 84, KidAmn wrote:Literally my only comment on that interaction was to say it was a clusterfuck and should not continue (and yes, for some reason I mixed Creature in there because I had been quoting him above to snark at his early posting, and because Rels literally hasn't posted this game, so apologies to Creature). I then moved on to a completely separate point about Ooo's refusal to give his own opinions until people have played his little mini-game.hapahauli wrote:Not reading properly =/= mafia.
Reading something as a "clusterfuck", criticizing it as confusing/pointless, and then engaging in said clusterfuck is likely mafia. The story is inconsistent. Posting for the sake of posting, etc.
noIn post 46, doomfeathers wrote:Ah, but you did see something you thought was AI there or you wouldn't have asked, and since you asked without saying what you thought, I'm willing to bet it was scum-indicative.outoforder wrote:I think, if you are town, you should probably stop leaping into conclusions since you have no possible way of knowing what i think of the post in the first place.In post 32, doomfeathers wrote:[quote="In post 11, [...]
The MooginSoosy post is pretty obviously not serious, so this post inclines me to think outoforder is overeager town if newbie. If alt, maybe not.
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I mean, because in your opinion i should not assume the post was serious that means if i am an experienced player i must be mafia, right? Well fyi i have not said what i think of the post in the first place so your conclusion is invalid.
Gotcha.In post 39, outoforder wrote:No it is not an alt. I know hapahauli and Rels from another forum.
I don't know the metas for any other sites, unfortunately. Rels and hapahauli, do you think OOO's question about MooginSoosy was scummy? Unless the answer is "yes", I now have no reason to scumread OOO.
Where do you stand on OOO now ?In post 86, KidAmn wrote:Any other comments to make? Anything at all to say about the last 4 pages?In post 85, Rels wrote:I don't get if it's a joke or not. It doesn't make sense if it's seriousIn post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
I think either you're not understanding or I'm not getting it across properly: the issue isn't the existence of the mini-game, it's that Ooo refused to clue anyone else in until it was "done with" or engage the people trying to get answers out of him.In post 87, hapahauli wrote:I don't understand how that's separate. OoO's "mini-game" has everything to do with the fact that him, Rels, and I have played on other websites.In post 84, KidAmn wrote:Literally my only comment on that interaction was to say it was a clusterfuck and should not continue (and yes, for some reason I mixed Creature in there because I had been quoting him above to snark at his early posting, and because Rels literally hasn't posted this game, so apologies to Creature). I then moved on to a completely separate point about Ooo's refusal to give his own opinions until people have played his little mini-game.hapahauli wrote:Not reading properly =/= mafia.
Reading something as a "clusterfuck", criticizing it as confusing/pointless, and then engaging in said clusterfuck is likely mafia. The story is inconsistent. Posting for the sake of posting, etc.
Given how determined he was/is to shit on me and dismiss anything I've said as "oh he's just stupid he isn't reading he doesn't know anything" I'm pretty happy with my vote.Rels wrote:Where do you stand on OOO now ?In post 86, KidAmn wrote:Any other comments to make? Anything at all to say about the last 4 pages?In post 85, Rels wrote:I don't get if it's a joke or not. It doesn't make sense if it's seriousIn post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
It's definitely a joke. That'd be ridiculous if it was serious.In post 85, Rels wrote:I don't get if it's a joke or not. It doesn't make sense if it's seriousIn post 16, outoforder wrote:Hey Rels, when you're around, let me know what you think of the MooginSoosy post.
My reason for voting for him hasn't changed since I first put the vote down. The fact that his instant reaction was to start attacking a perceived lack of ability and try to brush it off as "lol stupid but townie" instead of actually doing what several people asked and giving the information he was so heavily hinting at prior to getting his 1-line response from Rels... just kind of solidified that.In post 94, Aubrey wrote:Just for clarification KidAmn. Are you happy with your vote because you're actually scum reading him, or because you are frustrated with his comments directed at you, and your lashing out? because at a quick glance your last line of text seems driven by frustration.
Emphases mine: 1st, I never said anything to the effect of "[this interaction] is town", so Hapa is outright lying here. 2nd is simply untrue again - as I explained before, the issue wasn't the conversation itself, but the refusal to discuss further with anyone else until the conversation happened, and the issue of backpedalling was that Ooo told DF to back off, then went back in #53 and tried to explain how he wasn'tIn post 68, hapahauli wrote:Since when does two enthusiastic posts make someone lean town? Town's gonna have a bad time if the bar for innocence is this low.
This makes very little sense first of all, since at that point I had posted once, and Creature wasn't interacting much with OoO at all. It was you (doomfeather) and OoO that were doing most of the talking.
KidAmn calls the whole thing between myself, OoO, and Creature town.
Despite calling the whole argument "not productive" and "confusing", he jumps right into it and accuses OoO of backpedalling.
It does not follow that you can call a conversation not productive/confusing, and accuse someone of backpedalling on the basis of that very conversation.
That was supposed to be:KidAmn calls the whole thing between myself, OoO, and Creature town.
The next two sentences dont' make much sense without the added words.KidAmn calls the whole thing between msyelf, OoO and Creatureunproductive totown.
This makes sense.2nd is simply untrue again - as I explained before, the issue wasn't the conversation itself, but the refusal to discuss further with anyone else until the conversation happened, and the issue of backpedalling was that Ooo told DF to back off, then went back in #53 and tried to explain how he wasn't really telling him to back off
That was supposed to be:KidAmn calls the whole thing between myself, OoO, and Creature town.
The next two sentences dont' make much sense without the added words.KidAmn calls the whole thing between msyelf, OoO and Creatureunproductive totown.
This makes sense.2nd is simply untrue again - as I explained before, the issue wasn't the conversation itself, but the refusal to discuss further with anyone else until the conversation happened, and the issue of backpedalling was that Ooo told DF to back off, then went back in #53 and tried to explain how he wasn't really telling him to back off
I've been scum one game and was lynched N1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=68559In post 91, Rels wrote:doomfeathers how good is your scumgame ?
I thought his delay in answering was reasonable given that he wanted Rels' reaction first.In post 92, KidAmn wrote:I think either you're not understanding or I'm not getting it across properly: the issue isn't the existence of the mini-game, it's that Ooo refused to clue anyone else in until it was "done with" or engage the people trying to get answers out of him.In post 87, hapahauli wrote:I don't understand how that's separate. OoO's "mini-game" has everything to do with the fact that him, Rels, and I have played on other websites.In post 84, KidAmn wrote:Literally my only comment on that interaction was to say it was a clusterfuck and should not continue (and yes, for some reason I mixed Creature in there because I had been quoting him above to snark at his early posting, and because Rels literally hasn't posted this game, so apologies to Creature). I then moved on to a completely separate point about Ooo's refusal to give his own opinions until people have played his little mini-game.hapahauli wrote:Not reading properly =/= mafia.
Reading something as a "clusterfuck", criticizing it as confusing/pointless, and then engaging in said clusterfuck is likely mafia. The story is inconsistent. Posting for the sake of posting, etc.
No kidding.In post 96, Aubrey wrote:I get the feeling people are bugging out over a hot lot a nothing.
