Open 615 - Hope Plus One [Game Over: Town wins]

[Skybird]

VOTE: TheManWhoSoldTheWorld for having such a long name and of course for OMGUS!

[Skybird]

That doesn't sound too benevolent dude.

VOTE: Dictator

[Skybird]

Hi again everyone. I'm sorry I was a bit MIA since the first page, I was out of town and supposed to be back yesterday.

I didn't think I had played with very many people in this game, but looking at the hydra's I see a few familiar names.

UNVOTE: I want to take a closer look at the last couple of pages.

[Skybird]

Kim, do you have experience with mafia off-site or IRL?

[Skybird]

Creative, how do you feel about your RQS? It seems like most people didn't answer.

P-edit - thanks Kim. Does anyone stand out to you so far?

[Skybird]

P-edit - thanks Kim. Does anyone stand out to you so far?

Assuming you mean in a town/scum way, not really. I agree the most with Smudger. If my life depended on finding a townie right this instant, I'd probably guess Dictator. If I had to find scum? Uh....

P-edit: Maybe I'm reading too much into TheMan's quoting of 77 in his 78, but I wouldn't consider his vote naked. It seems to me there's an implicit argument that Dictator's refusal to engage Creative is scummy. (I disagree with the argument.) I agree with EP with his assessment of his theoretical scumbuddies.

Why do you see Dictator as town? I'm leaning the other way on them.

[Skybird]

Sinsun, why do you want to drive TheMan insane?

[Skybird]

Because Kim is either considerably smarter or considerably less scum and driven to chainsaw her partners.

Either way, Kim's right you're wrong now zip.

RC, are you seriously telling me to be quiet?

[Skybird]

Fire, what do you think of Kop?

[Skybird]

RC, I have played with you before and your reads that game were not very good as I recall.

Creative, I'm town. Are you?

[Skybird]

EP, I'm having a hard time getting into this game. I've been sick since Monday so when I've been home I've been in bed most of the time.

[Skybird]

Yes RC, I do remember you from that game. I don't remember you being quite this annoying though.

Thanks for the well wishes EP. I know you don't think my questions are the best, but I'm trying to engage people to get a read on them. I am typically not an in your face player and am better the longer the game goes on.

[Skybird]

Kop, what are your thoughts on Dictator?

[Skybird]

Alright, I had a chat with Accountant and we're gonna

VOTE: Skybird

VOTE: TheManWhoSoldTheWorld for having such a long name and of course for OMGUS!

I found it really weird that Skybird says OMGUS with an here. Usually you OMGUS because you're irritated or scumread someone, it's not exactly a happy emotion.

I'll read the rest of your post in a second but right now, DOES NO ONE IS THIS GAME KNOW WHAT A FUCKING JOKE IS!?

Thank you. I'm glad you at least understood I was joking. That's why I put the at the end.

[Skybird]

Dictator, my mother raised me to be polite. You are going to have to annoy me a lot more than you have for me to tell you to fuck off.

Honestly, I don't give a shit that you think I'm scummy. I'm town, I know I'm town, and you are proving yet again that your reads are shit.

It's been a long freaking week at work. If I have not answered a question, please requote it. Otherwise I'll try to find and answer them this weekend.

[Skybird]

Molla, what show are you doing?

Errant, are you being sarcastic in post 209? Not quite sure what you are trying to convey to me.

[Skybird]

Alright, I had a chat with Accountant and we're gonna

VOTE: Skybird

VOTE: TheManWhoSoldTheWorld for having such a long name and of course for OMGUS!

I found it really weird that Skybird says OMGUS with an here. Usually you OMGUS because you're irritated or scumread someone, it's not exactly a happy emotion.

You obviously don't understand jokes. The joke here is I'm voting for the guy that is voting for me. Since most people would say that is an OMGUS vote, I am saying it before they do. The smilie is there because I am joking.

Skybird wrote:

Hi again everyone. I'm sorry I was a bit MIA since the first page, I was out of town and supposed to be back yesterday.

I didn't think I had played with very many people in this game, but looking at the hydra's I see a few familiar names.

UNVOTE: I want to take a closer look at the last couple of pages.

I find taking the time to unvote in general incredibly scummy. The main reason to worry about your vote being down as town is because you're afraid it's leading to a lynch on someone you don't want it to. This is the middle of RVS and I find it extremely bizarre that such a thing would be done in general, leading me to suspect that Skybird is scum who doesn't want to be responsible for pushing a wagon quite yet.

When I posted that I felt the game was out of RVS. I disagree therefore that it was the middle of RVS. Why in hell would I want to leave my vote on someone when it was a silly RVS vote?

Sinsun, why do you want to drive TheMan insane?

This is just a weird thing to say in general. But the big thing is her questions.

What exactly do you mean by "the big thing is her questions?"

Kim, do you have experience with mafia off-site or IRL?

Note that Kim was defending me here.

P-edit - thanks Kim. Does anyone stand out to you so far?

Absolutely no follow up on that question at all, besides to ask another generic question, which at least with regards to me the answer should be known.

Kim mentioned that he had only completed newbie games here. I wanted to know how much experience he had because newbie town and newbie scum react differently than experienced town or scum. I have also seen scum pretend to be newbies to help explain any mistakes they make.

Why do you see Dictator as town? I'm leaning the other way on them.

Then we here hit the nail on the end. Literally the only purpose of this entire line of inquiry was to try to peel off Kim's townread on me.

Just because you don't see where I am going doesn't mean I don't have a purpose. I really wanted to see what his thought process was.

So why did Skybird unvote me? Why did she approach it in such a roundabout way if that's clearly all she was interested in.

What's the point of the first question, anyway?

You are reading way too much into stuff. I'm trying to get into the game and RL has very much limited my time.

Also,

RC, are you seriously telling me to be quiet?

I was taken aback that someone would be rude enough to tell another player to be quiet.

Yes RC, I do remember you from that game. I don't remember you being quite this annoying though.

There's absolutely no force behind this.

Like, "be quiet", really? Not "shut up"? Not some variant of "fuck off"? That's absolutely bizarre and I'd expect if she had as much of an issue with my play as she's claiming to that she'd react a lot more viscerally.

Then the rest of her questions are absolutely not followed up on.

Did you ever think that you just aren't worth reacting to? The biggest thing I remember about you is you are annoying. I ended up ignoring you in that game, and I am going to be ignoring you in this game as well. If that bugs you, then lynch me.

Fire, what do you think of Kop?

Says nothing further about it. Note Kop is looking like a leading wagon here.

Kop, what are your thoughts on Dictator?

Then she asks the person she was ostensibly scumreading what the read on me is?

Kop is a person of interest, not necessarily a scum read yet.

That's an absolutely bizarre change in the direction of questioning, plus all this "what's your read on X" without pushing anything doesn't come across as coming from town at all.

Just because I don't play mafia the same way that you do does not make me scum.

P-edit: Molla, Congrats on your role. I've always wanted to do that show.

[Skybird]

EP, so you thought my response was terrible. How about trying to talk to me and ask me something rather than just observing?

I will ask again, please re post any questions you want answered by me. Otherwise I will be answering them as I find them.

[Skybird]

TheMan you're blatantly whiteknighting Skybird right now. If you agreed with our last two points that would indicate that you at least think there is some reason to suspect them - and any townie in your position would be interested in looking at Skybird's reaction instead of defending someone you've just said had some scummy and inconsistent points. Unless you don't actually agree with those points, and you're just saying that to buddy with us.

- Accountant

I'm not whiteknighting, I disagree on ONE point, and yes I do find them suspicious, and

yes I am waiting for their response.

I can discuss this point with you while waiting.

P-EDIt

You guys calling something a joke in no way makes me disingenuous, it MAKE YOU DISINGENUOUS! Because you basically said me defending something as joke is scummy, and implied me calling jokes "jokes" is me being scummy and manipulative.

I'm looking through your ISO and I don't see a question from you to me. What response are you waiting for?

[Skybird]

Kop, as much as I would like to scum read Dictator, I have them as town.

[Skybird]

Wanderer, you mentioned getting uneasy vibes from Kim, but you aren't voting him. Why not?

[Skybird]

Kop, you are voting Creative. Why? Going through your ISO I don't see any reasons for this vote.

[Skybird]

EP, I did respond to 165 in post 226. Dictator replied and continued to take my RVS vote seriously, applying scum logic to unvoting my RVS vote, blah, blah blah. That's post 227 if you want to read it.

I'm town reading them because I can't imagine scum coming in and being so blatantly annoying.

[Skybird]

Wanderer, asking questions is how I get into the game to form reads. Yes, I am forming reads based on the reactions to questions. You for example, don't appear to like to be asked questions. Now that I've engaged you, you decide I'm only pretending to be scum hunting.

VOTE: Wanderer

[Skybird]

EP, timing is everything.

[Skybird]

Sinsun, why are the voices in your head telling you Creative is scum?

[Skybird]

Sinsun, so basically when you say "voices in your head" you mean your gut feel? I'm just trying to figure out if you have concrete reasons for your reads. Creative came to your attention, but now you think they are town?

[Skybird]

Really Sinsun? You are claiming I'm scum for something as stupid as this? You sound like scum.

VOTE: Sinsun

[Skybird]

EP, it seems like you want me to scum read Dictator? Why?

Molla, isn't it do be do be doo?

[Skybird]

EP, it seems like you want me to scum read Dictator? Why?

Molla, isn't it do be do be doo?

No
I just don't want you to townread them

Can you elaborate on what you find genuine then? Because so far I've seen Skybird ask questions and haven't seen them do anything with them. I asked but they refused to answer and went on to vote me. Then someone else has a scumread on Skybird and Skybird goes on to vote there. How serious are you taking Skybird's scumreads?

Sure, I don't think that Skybird's play is the best right now. I don't see a lot of scumhunting and I agree with you on how she seems to vote her scumreads.
But I think that town could easily do that as well.
The fact that Skybird is consistently doing this makes it seem like this is more of a playstyle thing. Like, I would expect scum to change their play when confronted with something like this by multiple people (me, Dictator, you) but Skybird sticks to it and I think I remember her saying that this is how she establishes reads. So I'm expecting her play to become better as the days stretch on. I'm willing to give her that chance.

EP, OK I see what you are saying about Dictator. But it's hard to form a read off of someone with such bad tunnel vision.

You remember correctly. Post 266 is where I told Wanderer that I ask questions to get into the game and form reads.

[Skybird]

@Mod, V/LA for the next few days. I have relatives in from out of town for Thanksgiving.

I will be around as much as possible as I know the deadline is tomorrow.

[Skybird]

Dictator is not who we are lynching today, move that vote somewhere useful Big Boss.

I would much rather go for:
VOTE: Skybird

Dictator is spewing a bunch of noise. Why wouldn't you want to lynch them?

[Skybird]

Can we get a vote count? I am at the place where I don't give a fuck about this game anymore. Please note that Dictator has done nothing but tunnel me all day long.

That does not mean they are scum!

(Bolded so you guys don't miss it.) It means they are very, very bad town. Dictator asked why scum wasn't pushing me? Because they don't have to! Dictator is doing it for them. They are thinking that after I'm lynched, they will push for a Dictator lynch after they death-tunnel another townie. Scum know I am town.

[Skybird]

@Mod, can we get a vote count?

I didn't bold that in the last post.

[Skybird]

About what? All you've done is read everything I say as scummy. I seriously don't even know what to say to you.

[Skybird]

Wanderer,

Just a note that these reads aren't cast in stone. I almost never hard read someone on the first day of a game. I'm not that confident in my reads.

Kim - I asked him why he was town reading Dictator. He replied that Dictator got us out of RVS by pushing tiny things and in the same post, backtracks his read by calling their action null. I asked him about his experience to gage if he was really a newbie or just new to this site because his response to my question felt newbie scum to me. I then asked him about his thoughts on the game (post 83). He responded that he agreed most with Smudger but called Dictator more town. This is an answer that could be useful later if Kim flips scum. Later after I voted Sinsun, he also finds Sinsun worthy of a vote. Since I voted Sinsun for reaction, that vote struck me as weird. I'm leaning scum on Kim.

Creative - I asked how they felt the response to their RQS question was. Creative never responded and I noted that. I really didn't care about an actual answer and was more interested to see how closely they were watching the game. There was a significant amount of time between my question and Creative's next post (Sunday night to Tuesday morning) but there were not a lot of posts between the two posts. (My post 83, their post 109 which was a prodge) He did answer in his next post so he does appear to be following the thread and not necessarily lurking scum. He included a throw away question to me in his answer (asked my alignment). I told him I was town and asked for his. He didn't answer me, at least not directly that I can tell. He claims town to Dictator in his exchange with them. It almost looks like Creative is lurking but he is following the game. He's more town for me at the moment.

Fostering Rave Bird - I asked Fire what he thought of Kop in post 118. I've played with Fire before, but not his hydra partner. Fire stated Kop was bugging him and voted him in post 133. He stated reasons in his next post. I'm reading Fire as town right now, because of his posts. I moved on to looking at a different person.

This stuff is all in my notes on the game. Is there a specific read you want or just to see if I'm actually doing something with my questions?

[Skybird]

Kim - I asked him why he was town reading Dictator. He replied that Dictator got us out of RVS by pushing tiny things and in the same post, backtracks his read by calling their action null.

Her post was 103; mine was 112. I stand by the precise wording of my post. The action is pro-town. Scum can do pro-town things -- but not too many of them or they'll (hopefully) lose. As of now, Dictator's done enough pro-town things in my eyes to look town to me. As of then, I wasn't as sure.

I asked him about his experience to gage if he was really a newbie or just new to this site because his response to my question felt newbie scum to me.

Your experience question (81) was the first one you asked me. Are you saying my response that felt like newbie scum to you was my agreeing with Smudger in 61, something else in 61, my clarification to Wonderer of what I said in 61 in 74, or something further back than that? How did you get your timeline mixed up?

I then asked him about his thoughts on the game (post 83). He responded that he agreed most with Smudger but called Dictator more town. This is an answer that could be useful later if Kim flips scum.

That won't happen because I'm town, but are you saying that Dictator and BBmolla are scum as well?

Later after I voted Sinsun, he also finds Sinsun worthy of a vote. Since I voted Sinsun for reaction, that vote struck me as weird.

If Sinsun had given a timely reply to my question (281) after his post that didn't consist of a Creative reads list, I would have voted for him right then. (I had looked multiple times for a list and hadn't found it, but I wanted to give him a chance to either show it to me or explain what he meant.) Your vote for him was inconsequential to me.

Kim,my post is from my notes on the game. I may have not had it totally straight as far as a timeline goes, but all together it is my read on you. If you are town, great but I noted that you liked both Smudger and Dicator and the way you did it pinged something for me so I noted it.

I don't remember you saying you suspected Sinsun before posted about me finding Sinsun scummy and then voting him. It looked to me like you were sheeping me as opposed to having your own read.

[Skybird]

So Dictator, what do you want to talk about? I really meant it when I said I don't know what to say to you because all you do is take everything I say and call it scummy. Even though I am town and I hold the view that town shouldn't be afraid of being lynched I would like to live to tomorrow. I get better as the game goes on.

[Skybird]

So Dictator, what do you want to talk about? I really meant it when I said I don't know what to say to you because all you do is take everything I say and call it scummy. Even though I am town and I hold the view that town shouldn't be afraid of being lynched I would like to live to tomorrow. I get better as the game goes on.

What do we want to talk about indeed?

I mean you know why I'm scumreading you. Do you have a response?

Why were you avoiding me this entire game, etc.

You dumb fuck, I responded to you in 226. Your response in 227 was to ignore everything I said and call it scummy. That's why I've ignored you and it's not because I'm scared. God, you are such an idiot you finally made me pissed off enough to respond and yell at you. Do you feel all good inside now that you've been a fucking bully? You are not the great player that you think you are. You are killing town's chances of winning this game with your bullheaded attitude. I hope after I flip that town policy lynches you. Because after all the shit you've thrown at me, when I read your ISO you do look town. Killing you will be policy, not scum killing.

[Skybird]

I haven't paid much attention to FRB because I was leaning town on them. In re-reading their ISO, there is basically no scum hunting other when they vote Kop and give a vague reason. The same post has an out about reading Kop as scum a lot of time when he is not. They later vote me for no reason. Yeah, I can vote FRB.

VOTE: FRB

[Skybird]

Pignash, who do you want to lynch if you don't like either wagon?

Dictator, shush. I predict that town will lynch you if you succeed in lynching me.

Now think about that before you respond.

[Skybird]

Kop

Kop isn't going to happen. If we are to lynch, you have to choose between me or FRB.

[Skybird]

That rave bird wagon went up uncomfortably fast. But I'd rather cop check me than Dictator because dictator seems like they're wrong about things.

Why do you want the cop to check you?

[Skybird]

We have less than an hour to get a lynch. Who's all here?

[Skybird]

Pignash, who do you want to lynch if you don't like either wagon?

Dictator, shush. I predict that town will lynch you if you succeed in lynching me.

Now think about that before you respond.

Because someone is ignoring this.

[Skybird]

Your last sentence doesn't make any sense Dictator. If you meant to say Skybird is

town

as well so scum doesn't care where the wagon goes then you would be correct.

[Skybird]

Fucking bullshit RC. That is NOT the best thing for me to do as town.

[Skybird]

Could you at least post in your hydra like you are supposed to?

[Skybird]

Do you want me to claim you dumb motherfucker!?!?!?

[Skybird]

I can go for Kop.

VOTE: Kop

[Skybird]

VOTE: Kop

This is likely scum?

I just did a quick run-through of Molla's ISO and this is the only vote I saw.

[Skybird]

It looks like Jeanne already got it.

[Skybird]

No, we are one vote short.

[Skybird]

Kop, what do you have to say about almost being lynched D1?

[Skybird]

Molla, you reading the game? It doesn't seem like it.

[Skybird]

Except my probable cop report which I'll bring up another day.

You are claiming cop?

VOTE: BBMolla

[Skybird]

Then you can explain what you meant in 466?

[Skybird]

If it is meaningless, why say it?

[Skybird]

Seriously?!?! Some people are being really dense right now. Anyone that thinks EP is scum is totally wrong. He's town.

[Skybird]

Wouldn't you want to look at me, your previous vote? The one who you apparently thought was such a good target for a vote that you left your vote on me on deadline day, when you could have broken the Skybird/FRB tie and put one of them at L-2? Also consider that I switched my vote to you at the very end of the Day, which you said irked you.

Your lack of a vote for me (or even a mention of me) toDay leads me to think that you're not really looking for scum -- you're just trying to look like you are. Add that onto the reasons why I was willing to switch my vote to you in the first place and I think I'm happy voting for you again.

VOTE: Kop (L-3)

...is there a term for the opposite of an OMGUS vote?

P.S. on Sinsun: I thought the reasoning behind his vote for Creative, which I'm guessing was based on reading Kop's case and then extrapolating about how Creative's non-existent readlist felt "fake", was the act of lazy scum. Seeing as he hasn't even logged on since then, however, I'm starting to think that it was just someone who wasn't interested in this game.

Kim, I don't think I would count Sinsun as town just yet. Someone not interested in the game is alignment null IMO. It can happen to both alignments.

[Skybird]

Davesaz, Firebird is one head of the Fostering Rave Bird hydra.

[Skybird]

Kop, claim please.

[Skybird]

Kop, who do you think is scum on your wagon? I only see one name on your wagon that I think is scummy.

[Skybird]

I can think of no logical reason for BB to soft cop as a town person. I even asked him about it and he didn't respond much at all.

[Skybird]

FRB, why is BB one of your strongest town reads? He's really not done much of anything yet.

[Skybird]

Thanks for your final thoughts Kim. Have a good holiday!

Wanderer, who are your scum reads?

[Skybird]

Molla, one of the problem's I have with FRB is how laid back they are. This is not what I remember of Fire guy in the games we've been in together.

Why do you feel Wanderer is lurking scum vs. lurking town?

[Skybird]

FRB, you keep saying that you want to lynch me. Talk to me about that.

[Skybird]

That BBmola move was scummy for another matter : this can be a scum trying to hunt pr's

but we can have more than 1 investigative roles here. and I can count that as a bulletproof claim. or even a doctor trying to wifom .

there are lots of possibilities about that claim. I really don't see a town perspective for pushing that spot which can lead to a mass claim.

We are playing an open setup. Do you understand what that means?

[Skybird]

UNVOTE:

It's been a heck of a long work week and I apologize I haven't had much time to devote to the game.

In re-reading the game this morning, I don't feel Molla is scum (hence the unvote at the top of the post.) I think EP is town and I feel that way about TheMan.

Pignash is bugging me. About the only post I see where he tried to scum hunt was his post explaining his position on Kim.

FRB is bugging me too. I've played a fair number of games with Firebird so he has meta on me. In reading his posts, I almost get the feeling he's not really reading the thread and just throwing out comments to look like content.

[Skybird]

Welcome mykonian and PhantomColbalt!

[Skybird]

Welcome Klingoncelt! Good to see you again.

[Skybird]

mykonian, yes, the way I read Jeanne's post is you replaced Creative.

[Skybird]

So has anything actually happened yet :-:

Cobalt, are you going to read the game? Why are you asking what has happened?

[Skybird]

I've iso'd Wanderer and I don't see anything to convince me she is town. She is not taking any stance on anyone and either pushing it or maintaining it. I questioned her about her Kim read and she decides he is town and switches to scum reading me. But she's happy to jump on Kop and put him at L-1. That looks scummy.

VOTE: Wanderer

p-edit: What are your thoughts on the first 16 pages PC?

[Skybird]

Wanderer, my point is you are not sticking with any of your reads. We are almost at the end of D2. It looks like you are trying to avoid calling anyone scum.

Who do you think is scum?

[Skybird]

@Jeanne, you don't have me in your votecount.

[Skybird]

Welcome Koggz. The slot you replaced into is being scum read by several. What say you? Are you scum?

p-edit: mykonian, got anything to go with that thought of scum just because the players were on what ended up being a town player's wagon? You do know that town can and will be wrong, correct?

[Skybird]

I've been re-reading the game during the night and I really think the best lynch for today is the FRB/KlingonCelt spot. FRB never made a case against anyone and kept casually trying to suggest that I was scum. Matter of fact, I'm sure that slot is scum.

VOTE: KlingonCelt

[Skybird]

And now I am pretty sure of a second scum. After we lynch KC we should lynch mykonian. Anyone that thinks my vote is a shit vote has not read the game.

[Skybird]

Let's put it this way KC. I know you are scum. End of discussion.

[Skybird]

VOTE: koggs

Myko's thoughts resonate with mine pretty well
I still think (and thought) that the wanderer wagon is the best
skybird is not looking townier like she said she would

so myko probably town
Tomorrow I'll try to help solve this game. Tonight I'm really tired and just got a lot of work done.

EP, think back to day 1. At the end of the day, who did Dictator want the cop to check? You. On D2 after someone voted you I told them that you were town. Get it now?

[Skybird]

Let's put it this way KC. I know you are scum. End of discussion.

You don't have enough credits atm to claim something like this. wanna explain more?

I should have gone onto the Wanderer wagon yesterday.

VOTE: Koggz


Hi, Koggs, nice to meet you, I'm sorry you had to replace into a Scum slot.

well , Actually I can't understand the function of these vote as well.

I must reread the thread tonight to see whats happening right now...

See post 830.

[Skybird]

And I'm pretty sure mykonian is also scum. Look at his reaction to me saying KC is scum. Yes, other people have reacted to my statement, but they did not have as big a reaction as he did.

[Skybird]

Yeah, sorry about the vote Molla. It didn't hit me 'till later you were trying to give me some cover. I'll take that dunce cap now.

[Skybird]

Sorry guys, busy with final stuff before the holidays.

I checked mykonian last night and the dude is scum. With that,

VOTE: mykonian

Before we lynch him though, I want to have a chance to talk with folks about the game. I felt pretty sure FRB/KC was scum and mykonian gave himself away. I don't have any immediate thoughts on their partners though.

[Skybird]

I'm trying to imply that unless I've miscounted soon we are in massclaim territory, where that just wins the game. Molla should probably check that, I'm a bit sleepy and he knows his setups, but we should have a decent amount of innocents around that could make it an idea.

Knowing that you are scum, this sounds more like you are trying to get the docs to out themselves so you can get around to killing me. No one should mass claim anytime soon.

[Skybird]

koggz wont be here
koggz die tonight

koggz, why did you expect to die last night?

[Skybird]

Man, I want to see some interactions and see if we can draw some information from the new replacements. For example, right now I feel like investigating Koggz tonight because she is being very weird. But you all might have a different opinion. What do you think of her?

[Skybird]

Koggz,

couple of questions for you. you had 2 days to read. Why haven't you caught up yet? Are you an alt? A simple yes or no will suffice.

[Skybird]

@Skybird, I have an off the cuff read of the players going from towniest to scummiest coming, but first I want help deciding. Do we think the last scum bussed his partner with Mykonian, or do you think he decided to avoid it? I'm leaning he avoided it right now, but my heart hopes we can shrink the lynch pool even more.

Good question, I don't have a good answer just yet.

I know people were suspecting wanderer/koggz. Sinsun is totally flying under the radar. Right now they are definitely in my check pool for tonight.

[Skybird]

I like your idea of no-lynching if I don't target scum tonight. That way we don't accidentally do scum's work for them by lynching a doc.

[Skybird]

At least koggz has finally caught up.

I'll be looking back at some stuff to try and figure out who to check. Even if I hit town, that gives us another confirmed person.

EP, love to see your thoughts too since you are the only confirmed town in the game.

[Skybird]

I have another confirmed town for you guys. Frozen Angel is confirmed town. EP is confirmed town.

I ended up checking Frozen Angel because I was waiting for EP's take on everything and when I got home from the thread was locked and FA was the one that pushed for the end of the day. I couldn't see a good reason for her to do that. Since I likely won't be around tomorrow, please make sure you don't quick lynch without getting the two confirmed towns' thoughts.

I would really like to have everyone in the game provide input on who's scum and who's not before we lynch someone today.

[Skybird]

Molla, why didn't you vote yesterday?

[Skybird]

OK, back from visiting family. It was an ugly drive home that took 12 hours through rain and snow. My mind is a bit frazzled at the moment.

Since I can't be protected I fully expect to be killed tonight. I'll still submit a person to investigate just in case scum decides to let me live another day.

I don't like PC's non participation. And Pignash has seemed scummy.

[Skybird]

Firebringer, I copped your slot. KC could not have done anything to save herself. Do not blame her.

[Skybird]

I don't. I saw that you admitted you were wrong in the dead thread. I was really hating on you D1 though because I thought I had made it obvious I was the cop trying to get you to back off. All's well that ends well.

p-edit: Thanks Dave.

[Skybird]

The first part of 1050 was in answer to RC.

Thanks Jeanne for modding.