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A50 and N_M both alluding to things that aren't in the setup. Surprised I am not.
Would A50 try to explicitly towntell? As which alignment?
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If I answer that I'll be providing you with wool to pull over my eyes.In post 21, Almost50 wrote:@dave: Where did I towntell??Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Did you assume newb based on join date, or look up player history?In post 58, SirCakez wrote: Newb scum response to being votedWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Because you hide behind the anonymity of an alt I don't know if you know me or not.In post 75, Hayasaka wrote:
I don't particularly like this post from Davesaz he is hedging a ton in this post.In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?
I think either of these could be described as scum indicative but he is choosing not to for no real reason.
Accuracy is important in this game. Anyone who has seen me play knows I approach every early game this way.
Notscience can have a short pass on this since it has almost certainly been years since we have played.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What's this mean?In post 79, dramonic wrote:2 down 2 to go~Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The way I do this is to state what I think, and see what questions or conversation comes from it.In post 86, Hayasaka wrote:So town hedge but they leave discussion open to say "why do you think that". But the post I quoted basically closes that off. It's just straight hedging to state thoughts without anyone being able to claim you actually have any down the line I guess?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Uh, it doesn't mean anything unless you say something about who the 2 are. Even that says very little unless you also give some kind of reasoning.
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See that question mark?In post 93, Hayasaka wrote:You said you did it for conversation but your post offers nothing in terms of that. It's closed off in a way that I feel stops it all together. Idk if you wanted to create conversation you would be a bit more firm and state reservations.
In post 62, davesaz wrote:Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?
It's an invitation for conversation.
How you can get "closed off" from that is just beyond understanding for me.
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VOTE: dramonic
We've had this conversation before. Talk or get eliminated.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Why would I want to commit to an opinion that I don't have?In post 100, Hayasaka wrote:You didn't commit to any opinions
This is how I bring attention to things that I don't have opinions on, for the express purpose of getting an opinion.
I think the way you question it is town motivated, but your approach to what it means is just wrong.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Making an assumption that this entire post is about AGar, past the first sentence.In post 102, Hayasaka wrote:I am replying to you twice since this is more open ended for anyone to reply.
I think the worst vote by a good margin is AGars initial vote. At this point he has triple downed on literally nothing despite it not giving him a reaction.
If he believes his read he is probably just scum making a show out of nothing to look town regardless of my alignment. Or he is pushing a shit read to look like he is doing something when he plans on backing down.
If it's a reaction test which was my assumption at first. Him not backing down feels more like posturing then something actually trying to be productive.
I guess if he is doing a reaction test he got a reaction now but I think it's overdue to be his only focus in the thread.
The most noticeable thing about AGar is 3 posts. You seem to be complaining about lack of followup, but it's lack of anything. I think we'll need to see what comes next to be able to make anything of it.
While I'm on this topic (AGar's vote flowed from 41), please explain how you can read anyone's alignment in 1 essentially empty post. Trying not to be a hypocrite here since I say I'm able to tell that A50 is probably town already, but that is based on multiple posts that are bigger than a single sentence.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Actually, that moves you down a bit. Not enough to change the read.In post 125, Hayasaka wrote:
Because my post was intended to be a shit post. Dave's wasn't.In post 116, AGar wrote:I mean... Isn't that the exact shit you're accusing dave of? Posting noncommittal shit that can just be handwaved away?
I think that's clearly different?
It's explicitly bad for town to shit post, in terms of game solving. Since I don't really participate (much) in the social aspect I take a dim view of posting that isn't meant to be taken at face value.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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She's referring to 41.In post 134, SirCakez wrote:
None of your posts look like shit posts to meIn post 125, Hayasaka wrote:
Because my post was intended to be a shit post. Dave's wasn't.In post 116, AGar wrote:I mean... Isn't that the exact shit you're accusing dave of? Posting noncommittal shit that can just be handwaved away?
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I thought traffic lane or swim lane for a bit when reading that post.In post 149, Almost50 wrote:
lane isn't even in this game (and hasn't been on MS for almost 2 years now), so he could not have been responsible for the wagon on HayasakaIn post 96, notscience wrote:So am I not allowed to criticize lane wagons?
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I agree that looking at this is a good idea.In post 154, notscience wrote:73
The first vote count with the l-2 wagon. Brass has great vote counts that show you the last vote add by a specific player. So you can follow the links to each of the constituents of the hayasaka wagons.
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Meta
Bringing something up and not articulating
Newb scum
Definitely doesn’t like axolotls
“Game is hard”
Which is such a broad rainbow of reasons it doesn’t really seem credible. Hence my confusion.
What's your take on those 5 players?
I'm not keeping track yet, it's too early for that, so I'll have to look. If I don't get hammered by work I'll try to do that today.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Maybe I don't need to look other than more closely reading AGar.
Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic
Historically hard for me to read, need to reread other than knowing the posting schedule is intermittent, very weak town, weak scum, insufficient data null.
In a 2v2 multiball game I would think at most 2 scum from different teams, and just one scum is more likely. Really cautious scum might not be on there at all.
If Hayasaka is scum (it is MB after all so probing questions aren't enough to clear anyone) then later unsupported votes could be scum catching a bus.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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On the one hand, it's slow enough that keeping up isn't an issue.
On the other hand, too many are still at a dead null right now from lack of content.
Cakez downgrade to null.
N_M weak scum.
Elements went from passively mediocre to actively mediocre.
Xayah is definitely not meeting proficiency standards but I give allowance to the possibility of RL interference.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It isn’t a total lack though.In post 198, Xayah wrote:It's not hard to keep up with this game. The hard part is finding stuff I consider of value.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Forgot to ask how what you said is anything different than the first two lines of mine.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What was your reason? I think I know, but want to hear it from you.In post 230, The Bulge wrote:baffled as to why nobody is voting with me, even if elements is townWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?In post 236, Elements wrote:Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killedWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I agree with the pretty terrible part but doubt it's scum led.In post 263, SirCakez wrote:not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum ledWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Wagoning people, and in particular big wagons, to see what happens.In post 286, Almost50 wrote:
What IS useful in a game like this? (Serious question)In post 267, davesaz wrote:I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.
VOTE: Malakittens
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How are you thinking we should go about solving?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Low hanging fruit.
Unfortunately that's the only thing this game has right now.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I feel like that kind of attitude is part of why the game is dead. Too few people are interested in pushing non-contributors.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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All you need to do to cure yourself of looking at me wrongly is to look at what I was doing before that.In post 331, The Bulge wrote:
accurate, but idk seems lamenty given the timing of his jump onto mala's wagonIn post 330, notscience wrote:
What?In post 327, The Bulge wrote:strange stance given the only solid wagon we've had is on the only player who hasn't voted
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Eh, pushing non-contributors is one of my regular things regardless of gamestate. Right now seeing how people react to the "-2"* is almost the only thing we have going.
I'm generally against eliminating* lurkers as lurkers if there is a better choice, but there's nothing wrong with trying to spark someone to action.
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Yes I noticed this immediately.In post 376, Almost50 wrote:Did you really quote your predecessor THRICE and tried to manufacture a read on them??Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Has she done anything particularly town?In post 436, Not_Mafia wrote:Just don’t, bad composition, don’t see the reason for her to be a leading wagonWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Why do you say that?In post 439, Not_Mafia wrote:
That’s not how this game worksIn post 438, davesaz wrote:
Has she done anything particularly town?In post 436, Not_Mafia wrote:Just don’t, bad composition, don’t see the reason for her to be a leading wagonWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I guess this is two separate thoughts, right?In post 444, Xayah wrote:Just because people could be LHF doesn't mean they can't get a scum role PM. How are people reading notsci? If this was single ball I'd be TRing them rn
The reason to avoid LHF is typically because little is learned from it, not because it lacks active scumminess.
I think notsci is town, but agree that MB is a factor so obv scumhunting doesn't automatically mean lock town.
I wouldn't approve of eliminating an obvious scumhunter early game. Someone who is active but not scumhunting is a better choice.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Elements is always a tough one for me because it's usually hard to separate out the useful stuff from everything else.In post 447, Xayah wrote:How do you feel about Ele?
I think his recent questions are pretty good, and it's not just because they're about someone else's scumread on me.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What fence are you referring to? There is a difference between town and lock town but it isn't a fence.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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@dramonic squeezing your read harder isn't going to make me flip scum.
You could perhaps comment on someone else. If you're town it works a lot better to work with your team.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. I don't see any real correlation between what you claimed to be the reason and the list itself.In post 476, Elements wrote: For everyone who doesn't bother to read, this list is based solely on weather or not people have claimed to be town.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Do you have any reads supported by evidence?In post 482, SirCakez wrote:nobody can even explain the reason for their vote other than A50's OMGUS so it seems pretty crap to meWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Have I slept through a site meta change where it’s now town to go through day 1 blatantly not trying to get reads?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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My comment is more about the general case than specific tbh. You just happened to be the most recent example. Try challenging people on their stances even where you agree if necessary.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm the town leader and you're full of bullshit.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You are flat out wrong to say that nobody has been providing content of any worth.In post 541, dramonic wrote:AGar attempting to give me shit is very insulting when nobody has been producing content of any worth.
This whole "What are your thoughts on X? Oh hey I agree" routine yall have been spinning bores the every living shit out of me and holds little to no value to netting us scum. The point of the game is not to shoot the breeze with your pals.
The discussionisthe content. Knowing who you agree with / disagree with andwhyis theonly thing of valuethat can be produced d1. In fact it's really the only thing of value before the first scum flip, other than perhaps voting records. For which we need people to vote in wagons big enough to be AI. And for the votes to be worthwhile, with at least minimalist reasons.
I'm doing this, and you are not. Get with the program please.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Fully from memory, in player list order. Gaps are for separating 1-liners from more extensive impressions, not for read grouping:
Almost50 - I think he's town based on a meta factor that I'm unwilling to let him know what it is
AGar - Seems to have opinions which are reasonable based on things in the thread
Malakittens - Claims to have RL balance issue, which is something I wouldn't doubt. Seems to be more in touch and less catching up than RL balance issues would imply. If she's unwilling / unable to push someone that she normally would via meta that could be a sign that she's scum with nothing to push. I don't know her meta well enough to know what she would push.
dramonic - Focus within the thread is a little narrow, but it fits what I know about his meta. Don't remember if I have seen him as scum and not inclined to go digging just yet.
The Bulge - Conversations seem to be town motivated
SirCakez - Extremely typical meta wise. Bad early takes don't make him scum by themselves. I'll need to read again with more context.
notscience - Conversations seem to be town motivated
Elements - I don't know if scum!Elements has the chops to be so brazenly clueless. Fits with meta, don't know if I have seen a scum game.
Xayah - Falling far below expectations but I can't remember if she has given a RL in this game. Perhaps a bit suspicious?
davesaz - Pretty obviously town if I don't mind saying so myself
Dunnstral - Very standard for meta, very unreadable, very null
InnocentVillagerHayasaka- If there weren't a join date to prove it wrong, I'd swear this is a new player. Seems rather lost and inconsistent. I had no meta on predecessor despite her apparently being well known to others in the player list. Feels a little suspicious.
Not_Mafia - Very standard for meta, perhaps slightly under performing. In someone with more mainstream meta I'd scum read this pretty hard.
One general comment trend that I'll go along with, there isn't enough overt scumminess in this game. It leaves me with no genuine gut scum reads and that's not good.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Do you mean what I wrote is wrong, or that the thing I observed is scummy? I’m voting her still.In post 546, dramonic wrote:
That's just not okay.In post 544, davesaz wrote:Seems to be more in touch and less catching up than RL balance issues would imply.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I agree with part of what you're saying. I may have failed to get across the point that I don't (and never) question statements about RL. I'm often highly affected by RL myself and get offended if someone doesn't take my comments about RL at face value.In post 557, dramonic wrote:I mean that's not an okay avenue of questioning. It's sort of akin to tell someone they don't seem affected enough by RL stuff.
I think it's still valid to comment about what people with RL conflicts do when they are here. There have been times when people made such comments about my posting and I had to step back from thinking it was a comment about RL and realize it was about the content.
So, for the record that part of my thoughts about Mala are about the content when she's here. She seems aware about what's going on but unusually quiet regarding doing anything about it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Incorrect again. Neither 80% meta, nor is meta empty.In post 559, dramonic wrote:Do you find anything town about that readlist? like 80% of it is meta, which is the definition of an empty read.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I see you saying it, but I don't see you walking the walk.In post 565, Not_Mafia wrote:
I'm townIn post 561, Xayah wrote:Ele/Mala/NM/Dramonic seem to be the only people I'd vote d1 hereWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Once again, wrong. I'm saying this only about A50, and specifically because I don't want him to know how I read him. Try taking off the filter you're putting on my posts and actually reading the content starting from no assumptions.In post 566, dramonic wrote:Kind of a tangent cuz what's happening here is that Dave is just saying "meta town" on, well... everyone... to avoid doing anything substantial in this game.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Are you really trying to argue that scum in MB don't scumhunt, or at least they don't try to scumhunt accurately?In post 574, Xayah wrote:
If his wolf/scumread is correct you'd obvious want him dead cause he'd be townread. And if he's also a scum/wolf that's really bad.In post 573, innocentvillager wrote:
im sorry, i don't understand english can you rephrase this or you can keep lurking w/e all goodIn post 570, Xayah wrote:Plus if his read is right (and you believe it to be so) he's the person on top of the 'you should kill' list for w/e scum team isn't on itWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Ooh, I have a followup question regarding the last 2 posts but I'll wait a bit to see if the conversation progresses.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'll take those in the order you mentioned them. You said I was using meta toIn post 591, dramonic wrote:In post 576, davesaz wrote:
Once again, wrong. I'm saying this only about A50, and specifically because I don't want him to know how I read him. Try taking off the filter you're putting on my posts and actually reading the content starting from no assumptions.In post 566, dramonic wrote:Kind of a tangent cuz what's happening here is that Dave is just saying "meta town" on, well... everyone... to avoid doing anything substantial in this game.
You are using meta as your argument for NM, Dunn, Xayah, Elements, Cakez, myself and Almost.In post 544, davesaz wrote:Fully from memory, in player list order. Gaps are for separating 1-liners from more extensive impressions, not for read grouping:
Almost50 - I think he's town based on a meta factor that I'm unwilling to let him know what it is
AGar - Seems to have opinions which are reasonable based on things in the thread
Malakittens - Claims to have RL balance issue, which is something I wouldn't doubt. Seems to be more in touch and less catching up than RL balance issues would imply. If she's unwilling / unable to push someone that she normally would via meta that could be a sign that she's scum with nothing to push. I don't know her meta well enough to know what she would push.
dramonic - Focus within the thread is a little narrow, but it fits what I know about his meta. Don't remember if I have seen him as scum and not inclined to go digging just yet.
The Bulge - Conversations seem to be town motivated
SirCakez - Extremely typical meta wise. Bad early takes don't make him scum by themselves. I'll need to read again with more context.
notscience - Conversations seem to be town motivated
Elements - I don't know if scum!Elements has the chops to be so brazenly clueless. Fits with meta, don't know if I have seen a scum game.
Xayah - Falling far below expectations but I can't remember if she has given a RL in this game. Perhaps a bit suspicious?
davesaz - Pretty obviously town if I don't mind saying so myself
Dunnstral - Very standard for meta, very unreadable, very null
InnocentVillagerHayasaka- If there weren't a join date to prove it wrong, I'd swear this is a new player. Seems rather lost and inconsistent. I had no meta on predecessor despite her apparently being well known to others in the player list. Feels a little suspicious.
Not_Mafia - Very standard for meta, perhaps slightly under performing. In someone with more mainstream meta I'd scum read this pretty hard.
One general comment trend that I'll go along with, there isn't enough overt scumminess in this game. It leaves me with no genuine gut scum reads and that's not good.town readpeople.
N_M is not stated as a town read. Technically I didn't give a read on N_M at all.
Dunn is null. Not a town read.
Xayah is slightly suspicious. Doesn't sound like a town read to me.
Elements is a clueless read, thus probably not scum. The meta part of that read merely says that it fits, not that it's the basis.
Cakez is a "must read again" which in DaveSpeak means null. Not a town read.
I technically don't give a read on you. I say what you're doing matches what I know about your meta.
A50 I've already covered at least 3 times.
So you're 0 for 6 saying that I'm using metaon people other than A50. Not at all a good look.to townreadWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Well, it could be just scum and skip the meta if you'd like.In post 594, Dunnstral wrote:So meta null instead of meta town
I sense a complete lack of contribution to the game from you for about 4 days or so and mostly self interest before that.
Tell me why you shouldn't be invited to be our first departure.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Given it's significantly more than most people are doing, I'd say you're barking up (or is that tweeting down) the wrong tree pal.In post 595, dramonic wrote:...So what you're saying is that you posted a full readlist that's mostly just "these people play like I've seen them play before".
That might actually be worse than I thought.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It's so refreshing to have every single player's iso be a single page more than half the way through day 1 I'm reluctant to break the spell.
Unfortunately I need to point out there are less than 5 days left and most people in the game seem to have very few reads.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Threatening someone to make them talk is less effective when the threat gets defused.In post 599, innocentvillager wrote:In post 596, davesaz wrote:Tell me why you shouldn't be invited to be our first departure.
because of thisdavesaz wrote:Dunnstral - Very standard for meta, very unreadable, very nullWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I am voting a scumread, silly. It's weak like almost all my D1 reads are in every game.
All of my votes have been on scumreads at the time I made them except for the RVS.
What position are you trying to get me to take? I don't make shit up, no uber strong scumread is going to just poof out of nowhere.
When I see it then you'll know it. Until someone is actually doing scummy things, not gonna happen.
I'm certainly not like RC who will just declare someone confscum for no real reason and tunnel them into oblivion.
I'm playing how I play, nothing you can do is going to make me change, so if you don't like it just get used to not liking it.
I'd be willing to work with the people I think are town to eliminate their scumreads who aren't themselves people I think are town.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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No, I have a full set of reads. Some of them are null.In post 607, Elements wrote:
you are including yourself in this yes?In post 598, davesaz wrote:most people in the game seem to have very few reads.
I don't have a clue what most people's reads are on most players. Because nobody other than me is taking a position (with reasons) on more than 1-2 other players.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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AGar, A50, notscience, BulgeIn post 611, Dunnstral wrote:
ok... who are the people who you think are town?In post 606, davesaz wrote:I'd be willing to work with the people I think are town to eliminate their scumreads who aren't themselves people I think are town.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord