Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

[Hayasaka]

Elements vote was worst of all but he's easy to solve so VOTE: dramonc

Ehhh idk about this one.
Dram hates wordy bs from scum which isn't an unfair assessment of my post about Dunn. I think its different from pushes I am comparing it to since I was asked to explain nothing.
But I don't think it's different enough to make it below null.

are you reading the game?

Yeah and we have people voting because she sounds like newbscum and it’s an obvious alt

So am I not allowed to criticize lane wagons? Because I’m gonna keep doing it

If you push someone as noob scum then proceed to figure out they have experience why would you be less inclined to believe the tell when an experienced player can simply mess up.

You said you did it for conversation but your post offers nothing in terms of that. It's closed off in a way that I feel stops it all together. Idk if you wanted to create conversation you would be a bit more firm and state reservations.

Mixed feelings on 58. Seems intended to make progress, but not terribly inspiring.
Very mixed feelings on 60. That's a lot of explanation. Being clear, or appearing to be clear?

See that question mark?
It's an invitation for conversation.
How you can get "closed off" from that is just beyond understanding for me.
We're having a conversation about it. How can you think it's closed off?

For reasons already explained.
You didn't commit to any opinions and you made it very easy to let you walk out if it got tough for you.

[brassherald]

It was cold on the mountain, perhaps a light coat was a bad choice.

Votecount 1.02

Hayasaka (5):

Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic

davesaz (2):

Hayasaka, notscience

dramonic (2):

Xayah, davesaz

Not_Mafia (2):

Not_Mafia, Almost50

Elements (1):

The Bulge

Not Voting (1):

Malakittens

With 13 in residence, it takes 7 votes to send someone down the mountain.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-08-31 17:40:00)

[Hayasaka]

Elements vote was worst of all but he's easy to solve so VOTE: dramonc

I am replying to you twice since this is more open ended for anyone to reply.

I think the worst vote by a good margin is AGars initial vote. At this point he has triple downed on literally nothing despite it not giving him a reaction.

If he believes his read he is probably just scum making a show out of nothing to look town regardless of my alignment. Or he is pushing a shit read to look like he is doing something when he plans on backing down.

If it's a reaction test which was my assumption at first. Him not backing down feels more like posturing then something actually trying to be productive.
I guess if he is doing a reaction test he got a reaction now but I think it's overdue to be his only focus in the thread.

[davesaz]

You didn't commit to any opinions

Why would I want to commit to an opinion that I don't have?
This is how I bring attention to things that I don't have opinions on, for the express purpose of getting an opinion.

I think the way you question it is town motivated, but your approach to what it means is just wrong.

[davesaz]

Elements vote was worst of all but he's easy to solve so VOTE: dramonc

I am replying to you twice since this is more open ended for anyone to reply.

I think the worst vote by a good margin is AGars initial vote. At this point he has triple downed on literally nothing despite it not giving him a reaction.

If he believes his read he is probably just scum making a show out of nothing to look town regardless of my alignment. Or he is pushing a shit read to look like he is doing something when he plans on backing down.

If it's a reaction test which was my assumption at first. Him not backing down feels more like posturing then something actually trying to be productive.
I guess if he is doing a reaction test he got a reaction now but I think it's overdue to be his only focus in the thread.

Making an assumption that this entire post is about AGar, past the first sentence.
The most noticeable thing about AGar is 3 posts. You seem to be complaining about lack of followup, but it's lack of anything. I think we'll need to see what comes next to be able to make anything of it.

While I'm on this topic (AGar's vote flowed from 41), please explain how you can read anyone's alignment in 1 essentially empty post. Trying not to be a hypocrite here since I say I'm able to tell that A50 is probably town already, but that is based on multiple posts that are bigger than a single sentence.

[Elements]

UNVOTE:

[AGar]

At this point he has triple downed on literally nothing despite it not giving him a reaction.

I've made two largely bullshit posts since my vote - not sure how I've tripled down on anything besides a little shit posting.

Friendly note: If I post between the hours of about 7 AM and 5 PM, it's generally from a tablet while I have a spare minute during the work day and won't be fully fleshed out.

I'll get to you after grocery shopping tonight.

[AGar]

EBWOP: Fuck, time zones. I'm Eastern US time.

[Hayasaka]

I am looking back right now and that post was an incredible stretch.
I do think your vote was the worst, but half that post was me thinking this game has gone on for 48 hours and not 24 which does change how I read it.

[SirCakez]

Dram how about we lynch Dave together.
Then I bus my partner for full town cred and proceed to be shot by the other team.

Why lynch 2 scum when you can get a 3rd one for free.
You have to think big.

This post is scummy regardless of the "new scum" tell no longer being accurate since this is apparently an alt

[SirCakez]

Kinda like Dave here actually

[AGar]

@Dunn

65: Jokes or srs?

Petition to nickname Hayasaka "Stretch Armstrong." See: 75, 76, 92, 102.

I actually can't follow the logic in 86 - Because someone didn't hedge in the way you did once as town, they're scummy? Is that what I'm reading?

Haya you have my current attention so I'm going to dig:

- Since I didn't at you in 52, I'm guessing you didn't realize this was @ you:

Re, 49 - then why bring up 41 at all if it's not worth elaborating on?

- Speaking of, how closely are you reading this game? Other than your pensive dave interactions, it feels very much like you're focused on survival and analysis of your burgeoning wagon. How far out are you probing outside of those two pools?
- Are you an alt? (idgaf who and I cbf to figure out, but if we're going to do this fucking tango in thread I would like to quash it quickly).

@notscience

Sell me on a dave wagon - I don't see what you see.

[Hayasaka]

I actually can't follow the logic in 86 - Because someone didn't hedge in the way you did once as town, they're scummy? Is that what I'm reading?

No I created an example, and explained the scum motivation. But if you want to interpret it that way then go for it.

Re, 49 - then why bring up 41 at all if it's not worth elaborating on?

That read was largely a shit post. I didn't know your post was serious so I ignored it.
I don't have an explanation for the read, I brought it up because I felt like it.

- Speaking of, how closely are you reading this game? Other than your pensive dave interactions, it feels very much like you're focused on survival and analysis of your burgeoning wagon. How far out are you probing outside of those two pools?

I missed the 1 above post and I ignored it because I didn't think it was a serious question.
Dave isn't voting me who is the main person I am talking about so I am not sure how you get the a strong survival vibe from me?

- Are you an alt? (idgaf who and I cbf to figure out, but if we're going to do this fucking tango in thread I would like to quash it quickly).

Yes.

[Hayasaka]

I went back to skim the thread.

Who has posted and isn't on my wagon that isn't Dave or NotSci.
I am not sure who you think I am ignoring?

[Hayasaka]

VOTE: agar

Whatever. I agree my initial read was awful but agar is caught for the wrong reasons.

[notscience]

His posting early just felt awkward to me. I’m tired rn and can’t articulate it well but I like my vote so far. I did like 103s second half though.

[AGar]

I actually can't follow the logic in 86 - Because someone didn't hedge in the way you did once as town, they're scummy? Is that what I'm reading?

No I created an example, and explained the scum motivation. But if you want to interpret it that way then go for it.

I legitimately couldn't parse the post, there was a hitch in the first sentence that threw me. I just disagree at this point.

Re, 49 - then why bring up 41 at all if it's not worth elaborating on?

That read was largely a shit post. I didn't know your post was serious so I ignored it.
I don't have an explanation for the read, I brought it up because I felt like it.

I mean... Isn't that the exact shit you're accusing dave of? Posting noncommittal shit that can just be handwaved away?

P-Edit: Would like articulation at some point.

[AGar]

agar is caught

lol

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

@Agar I didn't like his entrance to the thread and what I liked about the vote is he felt awkward at the start and while skimming on my phone at work I felt like he was arguing semantically but on reread I no longer feel that (now that I'm sitting down to actually digest the thread).

[The Bulge]

UNVOTE:

haya's not scum guys

[The Bulge]

shit, dropped this

VOTE: Elements

[AGar]

UNVOTE:

haya's not scum guys

Gonna take some more than some quippy one-liners, even for me.

[The Bulge]

I like to think scumplayers generally have a certain awareness of their own iso, do you think stretch here is being especially prudent?

[The Bulge]

especially for fifth page

[Hayasaka]

- Speaking of, how closely are you reading this game? Other than your pensive dave interactions, it feels very much like you're focused on survival and analysis of your burgeoning wagon. How far out are you probing outside of those two pools?

I went back to skim the thread.

Who has posted and isn't on my wagon that isn't Dave or NotSci.
I am not sure who you think I am ignoring?