That IS what I mean. You said it better.Yosarian2 wrote:I mean, what; am I supposed to wait for a replacement and get them to explain BM's bizzare behavior? Now THAT would be unfair to the replacement.
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Ohhh...ok, thought you were talking about my BM vote being unfair.DrippingGoofball wrote:
That IS what I mean. You said it better.Yosarian2 wrote:I mean, what; am I supposed to wait for a replacement and get them to explain BM's bizzare behavior? Now THAT would be unfair to the replacement.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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This.populartajo wrote:Just for the record, BM also used this tactic in Adel's Nice Shot. Want to take a guess about his alignment?
Vote: Battle Mage
I don't have the time right now to bring up the quotes to prove that this is untrue.Yos wrote:Yes, it is a clear and obvious fact that you never mentioned any suspicion on CKD again after that point. That is what I meant when I said you "dropped your suspicion". As I've already explained.
How is this OMGUS?Yos wrote:The fact that you're still OMGUSing me about this, even after the argument has become obsolete, really dosn't make you look good, destructor; are you really that touchy about anyone suspecting you at all?
You asked why I found it scummy. Specifically, how it was more likely to come from scum. I didn't say it made you scum, I explained why it was more likely to come from scum, in your own terms. So this is a strawman.Yos wrote:And again, "No one else agreed with you, thererfore you're scum!" is a horribly flawed argument, and I'm not sure you realize that.
Why doesn't anyone else see it?Yos wrote:Um...what? "counter-intuitive"? It was an entierly logical interpretation of a possible motive for your actions. Why is it you don't see that?
Isn't Mafia a game of probabilities, of judging whether certain actions are more likely to come from scum than town? Aren't the reactions of every other player in this game reasonable yardsticks to make some of these judgements?
Not great. I said this in 557:Yos wrote:What do you think about [SensFan's] contributions before November 29th, his last post, then?
The other reason was a meta from this game: Mini 570.destructor wrote:Sens' inactivity gives him negative points too. He's done no scum-hunting in any of his 11 posts. I've got other reasons to suspect him, but I'll have to see him play more before I give them more weight.
I also just remembered BM WIFOM'ing us early in the game by implying that Sens was his scum-buddy..::][:::::][:::::][:::::][::.-
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Yes you did.
Well.
I guess it saves BM's non-existent replacement the agony of fake claiming.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Death Scene
Battle Mage got lynched. He was a vanilla townie.
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¬Battle Mage::DrippingGoofball, Korts, populartajo, Yosarian2, roflcopter, destructor6
Yosarian2::vollkan, Battle Mage2
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not voting::destructor, DrippingGoofball, Elmo, Korts, populartajo, Raging Rabbit, roflcopter, SensFan, vollkan, Yosarian210
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Day 3's deadline is December 26th at 12:28 (UTC)
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So the only really valid point against me is still the one vollkan brought up in regards to jumping on rofl after des.
Your case is basically this, correct me if I'm wrong: I made a case on Guardian (which was justified, just not based on the tell I thought it was); I made a case on BM based on a BS point of view in an argument, which I later retract on account of it being weak, but leave my vote because I can't find another place for it; "OMGUS" case on you, based on the fact that you seem to be pushing a weak case very hard; self-preservation vote on CKD (how's that even a point against me?); "bad logic" on the gut read on DGB.
Your case is very weak, RR. Its focal point is that the cases I've made were weak. They were, but I don't see how that's a scumtell.scumchat never die-
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Yeah, you can LOL. Your play in this game was an epic abomination.Battle Mage wrote:lol
I'd like to lynch vollkan today. All the while he stays on the sidelines. He's very off.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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In the rules, I wrote:2.Once you are dead you can no longer post in-thread.Not even a "bah." post.Seriously.
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I'm here. I shouldn't have taken this game on, but I will play to the best of my ability. Anyway, I have no idea what's going on, and I'm not focusing well at ALL right now. I'll try to catch up tomorrow/Friday."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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TTGL Mafia is over. Going to mod [b]Umineko No [color=red]Na[/color]ku Koro Ni[/b] Mafia. Pre-/ins, as always, are accepted.-
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welcome forb. but that quote is depressingly similar to the majority of what we got out of sensfan.forbiddanlight wrote:I'm here. I shouldn't have taken this game on, but I will play to the best of my ability. Anyway, I have no idea what's going on, and I'm not focusing well at ALL right now. I'll try to catch up tomorrow/Friday.soi soi soi
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Difference is I plan to actually follow through. It's just I kinda am in the middle of final hell which is why I really shouldn't have agreed to go in. But once those are over I should be back at my hyperactively posting self. I'll try to keep up as best I can in the meantime.roflcopter wrote:
welcome forb. but that quote is depressingly similar to the majority of what we got out of sensfan.forbiddanlight wrote:I'm here. I shouldn't have taken this game on, but I will play to the best of my ability. Anyway, I have no idea what's going on, and I'm not focusing well at ALL right now. I'll try to catch up tomorrow/Friday."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Do you always go all tunnel-vision for no good reason on the first person to expression mild suspicion of you, or should I take this as a scum tell here?destructor wrote:=/
I'm pretty sure we should lynch Yos today.
Vote: Yosarian2
(and welcome to the game FL.)I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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If it was tunnel-vision I probably would have voted you in Day 1, or at some point in Day 2 at least, wouldn't I? I've been labouring over whether I should try to get you lynched for long enough. The fact that I didn't vote you earlier, even though I was obviously thinking about it, is really more of an indication that I've been holding back to work out whether my read is being tainted by OMGUS. I'm pretty sure this isn't OMGUS. If it had been someone else you'd made that case on in Day 1 I'd feel the same way about it.
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We've been over this over and over again, and you still haven't managed to point out anything that was either innacurate about my observations on your or that was illogical about the conclusions I drew from them. Therefore I can only conclude that you are voting me because of OMGUS, because you certanly haven't given any other reason then the points I made about your day 1 play.I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Proof that I hadn't dropped suspicion of ckd after unvoting him.destructor, Post 367 wrote:Hmm.
Unvote
Vote: Korts
ckd, I still want to see you responding to the posts I mentioned.destructor, Post 372 wrote:
I could have left you at L-1. I don't see what's wrong with me changing to my other suspect. Also, not including your self-vote, you and Korts are equal in the vote count.ckd wrote:Des unvoted....now why would he do that?
How did you miss this one?:destructor, Post 405 wrote:I already explained that I had moved my vote to my second suspect, levelling the two wagons. I could easily switch back to ckd if I wanted to, making him the deadline lynch, just as much as anyone could change which wagon is leading with a single vote.
This was all before you said:destructor, 409 wrote:
I should clarify. By saying it wasn't prodding or probing, I meant that you were actually accusing rofl of being scum. I should have said that it wasckd wrote:It is reaching…but NOT THAT reachy. It was early in the game…I upgraded my random vote (korts) to rofl who I felt might be making some scummy posts…and while you deem this as not prodding or probing, look at the reaction to come out of it. Now, I am not saying I did this for a reaction, but I didn’t do it to be safe either. I would not have advocated lynching rofl at the moment based on that, but it was enough for me to change my vote.more thanprodding and probing. The quotes I posted made this evident. I didn't like the fact that you tried to downplay how serious you were about it all ("I am not trying to parade it as anything else").
ckd wrote:Nothing..couple jokes..random votes…he wasn’t doing much of anything..but that was what most of goes on Day 1 in the first pages of a game…it was different in rofl play…I assume you are asking me about Korts at this point because I had my random vote on him…but what did anybody do in the first 5 pages of the game…other than BM spamming the thread..nothing really got this game going until my attack of rofl.
My question is, really, what made rofl's scum-hunting seem forced but Korts' seem genuine? For example, do you think Korts' suggestion that rofl was trying to buddy up to Yos wasn't tenuous and forced?ckd, Post 132 wrote:to me, just seems like someone who is trying to look like they are scum hunting...again this is just a couple pages into the game.
Given that it's been pointed out that BM has declared that you're town past the random stage, can you answer rofl's questions here again?rofl, Post 172 wrote:ckd, kison: how does bm's declaration that ckd is protown differ from my own about des, and why has it gone ignored by you two up to this point?
Which, even as speculation, is still a huge leap from the evidence.Yosarian2, Post 417 wrote:What you did instead (Drop your suspicion on him completly, move your vote to a different wagon, and begin to strongly defend him and attack everyone else on his wagon) is quite confusing if you really are a townie who previously thought he was suspicious looking, unless A. you thought there was new evidence pointing to him being town, or B. you never actually wanted to lynch him in the first place, you just wanted it to look like you did..::][:::::][:::::][:::::][::.
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