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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 1:29 pm

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I kind of want to give magna credit for catching Dom. I came into today also with the same thought, but going into the night I hoped I was able to clear him instead of finding him probably guilty.
But magna needs to do more than feel sorry for himself. Will give him more time, I still want to hear from Klingon as well.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 1:36 pm

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I'm pretty sure that we should lynch magna, but there's also a chance that somebody tried to attack dwlee and I blocked it
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 3:17 pm

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In post 1201, BlackStar wrote:I'm pretty sure that we should lynch magna, but there's also a chance that somebody tried to attack dwlee and I blocked it

hmm yea. I dont see myself as a nk target, however?
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 4:34 pm

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In post 1201, BlackStar wrote:I'm pretty sure that we should lynch magna, but there's also a chance that somebody tried to attack dwlee and I blocked it

Bah, that is true as well...
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 8:23 pm

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In post 1175, Masquerade wrote:

I still want Klingon to tell us more about her role, like her name and also the provided story in the pm from the mod.


@Shos - Does answering the above question violate the "no quoting Role PM" rule?


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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 8:24 pm

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In post 1177, FA_Q2 wrote:I think it is more telling that they lied.

That was the whole point of having blackstar go last, to identify a liar. Then the excuse that it was to draw a scum ability is bogus. What is the point of drawing a RB as a hider? That would be pointless unless he thinks that he would draw 2 actions as a hider (RB is pointless without a kill to follow). Not to mention that we are all thinking that there is a SK and not a scum team. In general, nothing that dwlee did makes any sense at all. Then, on top of that, there was no SK kill last night (unless they were not reading the game and targeted polar) and that leaves DW or Magna as the only 2 suspects.

The only other possibility is that Kling is claiming NK immunity as well. Does your ascetic claim include NK targets?


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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 8:31 pm

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In post 1180, Masquerade wrote:
Klingon, what are your thoughts on the claims so far?



You and BlackStar are both Roleblockers. Are both Town?
Dwlee's Hider claim could be a Scum fakeclaim.
FA_Q2's claim looks like a Scum role. I dunno, I doubt he'd claim that if he were really Scum.

Magna's definitely 3rdP. Is he really a Survivor, though?
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 8:41 pm

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As usual, quoting your role PM is illegal. You may paraphrase whatever you wish.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 9:10 pm

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In post 1204, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1175, Masquerade wrote:

I still want Klingon to tell us more about her role, like her name and also the provided story in the pm from the mod.


@Shos - Does answering the above question violate the "no quoting Role PM" rule?


If Shos is cool with it, I'll answer.

In post 1207, shos wrote:
As usual, quoting your role PM is illegal. You may paraphrase whatever you wish.


Hmm... The name would be quoting, wouldn't it... but at the same time I don't see what input a name has... Respect.

The story basically says that I'm what motivates everyone. Without me everyone is nobody.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 1:41 am

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In post 1206, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1180, Masquerade wrote:
Klingon, what are your thoughts on the claims so far?



You and BlackStar are both Roleblockers. Are both Town?
Dwlee's Hider claim could be a Scum fakeclaim.
FA_Q2's claim looks like a Scum role. I dunno, I doubt he'd claim that if he were really Scum.

Magna's definitely 3rdP. Is he really a Survivor, though?

I'm a roleblocker, Blackstar commutes other players. I know I am town and I'm pretty sure Blackstar is town too.
Magna and Dwlee are in my opinion rn most likely to be scum 3rd party, but that's assuming that scum 3rd party has a NK. Anyone has yet to respond to my suggestion of it being a recruiting third party (you know, like a cult..)
And I had the exact same thought about Faq. But everything does check out I think, what he said about his role and his actions.

And Klingon, we all stated our role/flavornames. If it wasn't allowed we would have heard already. All it will maybe tell us is if it fits your role. Like when I read my rolepm I first thought I got a scumrole. Town bully, roleblocker... But it fits, I go out at night and beat people up and knock them out. You being a hardass about just stating the name you got is making me want to lynch you most rn..
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 4:44 am

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Ok so I’ve given you enough time to draw your own conclusions and this thread if floundering. So despite my gut telling me not to help traitorous Anywhere city vermin out I can’t just pull a lurk it is against my nature.

First let’s take a look at the claims.

In post 1078, Ircher wrote:Massclaim today. I'll start.

I am a banner. My role is basically Town 1-Shot BP Reflexive Friendly Neighbor - My BP however goes away if I'm visited in any way.


I don’t like the play around the “if I used my Friendly Neighbor shot”. That said the worst part of this claim is the fact that Ircher should have gone last to possibly catch someone fake-claiming an action on you and not confirming your Friendly Neighbor status. Bad Ircher. Town.

In post 1096, FA_Q2 wrote:I am the Taxi Traitor Test, a role cop and investigative immune. I cannot be detected by watchers and the like. There are other details that come with this but I will share those after the claim and we start identifying targets/info.


Serial Killer suspect number 1. And probably the first that should go. That particular skill-set absolutely fits the needs of a Serial Killer – protection from the Town Investigation Role, the ability to find the roles of other players (much as Code was a Mafia Role Cop), and the ability to “steal” the best abilities of whatever player they investigate.

Admitting to killing BBT was pretty ballsy. But he was clearly Town. If he really thought I was scum he would have burned me instead. That shot is not a Town perspective kill.

In post 1100, Dwlee99 wrote:I am the wang car bonus, I am a hider. Targeted polar vortex n1 and got roleblocked last night


Dwlee is Town. Stupid Town who lied about his claim for no good reason but Town.

In post 1122, Klingoncelt wrote:Anyway, the claim: Modified Ascetic. I'm untargetable. Totally. If there's a Protect role, stay off me, go help someone that needs it.


Serial Killer suspect number 2. The claim makes perfect sense as an investigation immune Serial Killer omitting her other abilities. Right now I am leaning FA over Klingon but I need to read back to see Klingon’s slot and their reactions to Polar’s Ascetic claim.

In post 1125, Masquerade wrote:I'm the town bully and I can punch people and essentially it means I'm a roleblocker. I punched magna last night. According to my role-pm there are players that can withstand a punch.


Meh. The whole “I got an extra use of ability for replacing in” is garbage as the Mod isn’t going to change the set-up on the fly. Would be a distant third in my suspect pool as I think the flavor is pretty weak and the Night choices are conveniently uncheckable. And I believe Blackstar’s claim is a lot more credible than Masq’s. Could be Town poorly presenting their role.

In post 1129, BlackStar wrote:I'm the train facilities. I can force commute people which means that I protect them and stop them from doing their night abilities. I targeted the banterlords on night one and dwlee last night


Flavor makes perfect sense. My brain hurts on the targets but poor targeting choices isn’t the end of the world given Mafia had a Strongman kill anyway. Town.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 4:58 am

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VOTE: FA_Q2

I’ve done the heavy lifting once again. Don’t make me regret it.

Going back I think Scourge’s reaction to Ascetic claim from Polar is null with a light lean towards scum.

In post 55, Polar Vortex wrote:Guys, guys, guys, we have an announcment. We are an ascetic. Had to claim so people wouldn't lose time using powers on us in the night


In post 58, A Real Scourge wrote:
In post 57, BlackStar wrote:
In post 55, Polar Vortex wrote:Guys, guys, guys, we have an announcment. We are an ascetic. Had to claim so people wouldn't lose time using powers on us in the night

Did you tell us this because you thought that not hiding it would make you seem more like town?

i actually thought this exact thing. in part cause of the explanation that shouldn't have needed to be there.


In post 199, A Real Scourge wrote:i like Polar Vortex more, too. i thought their claim was overexplanatory (could have just said 'i'm ascetic' and continued on) but its fine


This doesn’t say to me “I’m a Town Ascetic and I am doubting that claim by Polar comes from Town”. Possible given that this is acknowledged role madness Scourge could have factored in multiple Ascentic Town roles but seems meh. Not compelling enough to convince me on claim alone that Klingon is more likely Serial Killer than FA.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 5:07 am

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VOTE: Fa
Getting.carried by a survivor feels bad..
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 11:59 am

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@Magna
If town wins, we'll make you an honourary winner.

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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:22 pm

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Deadline is in
(expired on 2016-05-14 01:35:11).


With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes for a lynch.


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NOT VOTING (4) - FA_Q2, Masquerade, BlackStar, Klingoncelt.


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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:27 pm

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I'm gonna hammer this. Any objections?
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:32 pm

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go for it
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:36 pm

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actually, don't. do we really want to take the chance of killing a town cop?
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:43 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:44 pm

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Do it.

If anyone can protect Masq tonight without RBing him... That might be prudent.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:48 pm

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On the other hand, do we want potential 3rd party to live?
Do you still think it's magna or did you have another idea?
For me it would be Klingon rn, we have enough blocking power to prevent any kills if you trust me that is.. So would rather lynch someone we can't target. But that's mostly because I just don't know what/who to believe rn.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:50 pm

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Nah. I dont.

I just think someone should do me a favor of confirming my alignment, so town doesn't think I'm fakeclaiming.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 12:59 pm

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Fucking idiots.
Go ahead and lose.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 1:01 pm

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I am your strongest town role right now and have the ability to commute a player possibly preventing a kill and you allow magna to come in with shit reasoning and lynch me. Should never have bothered to claim.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue May 03, 2016 1:06 pm

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In post 1186, Ircher wrote:
In post 1163, Masquerade wrote:Roleflips so far:
Code Ninja rolecop 2x (scum)
Ranger Watcher lynchee (town)
DK JOAT 1-shot BP flamethrower molotov 1-shot strongman lyncher (semi-town)
BBT 2-shot BP (town)
Dom Full BP strongman drugdealer (scum)
Polar Reflexive poisoner (town)
In post 1157, Masquerade wrote:
In post 1156, Masquerade wrote:In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute


Thought I'd put in everything together..

Actions:

N1: Ranger and DK were NK'd. DK set Polar on fire. Scourge and BBT were RB'd by Masq. Dwlee was commuted by Blackstar.
D2: BBT is Dayvigged
N2: Dwlee targeted Masq and was commuted.
Polar Vortex dies from DK's flames.
No NK's.
Blackstar commuted Dwlee.
Magna was RB'd by Masq.

FA_Q2 ought to claim results.

Nice try!

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