mini 943- Greek Mythology! (And the winner is... ?)

[Iecerint]

I haven't quite gotten my role PM, yet, but I suppose I'm in the game already innit. I'll let you know if it changes my random vote.

Vote: greenindirt

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First, I think his real reason for choosing which wagon to vote was that there was more rhetoric behind the one he chose. Second, Vas's response to his explanation is uncomfortably dismissive.

[Johoohno]

I'm a fan of being eager, however, I expect a new post from Iecerint very soon to help us read his role and not only his mood.

[Jack]

Why iecerint but none of the other people who have said nothing?

Nevermind, don't answer that.

[Shadow Dancer]

Original Roll String: 1d12

1 12-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

[Shadow Dancer]

/vote: greenindirt

[Jack]

Vote:ShadowDancer

I know you've seen people do that in other games, but it's really as bad as you can get in the rvs.

[Iecerint]

Still no PM.

I'd already decided on my random vote, so I figured I'd go ahead and post on it. Since I was privileged to read a bit with innocent eyes, I'm fairly sure it'd've been the same regardless of the PM result.

I was so proud of my RVS on greenindirt, but Shadow Dancer is literally very naughty.

Vote: Shadow Dancer

[greenindirt]

Alright, sorry to have to ask, but what is scummy about using a die in the RVS? Is it because it can't be analyzed later on?

[Jack]

It's just the epitome of uselessness. Imagine if all of the players had done that.

[Iecerint]

Yeah, that's the reason. The point of RVS is to generate non-RVS content. And it's not as if nothing had happened. My page 2 vote wasn't totally random. At best, he is not very thoughtful. At worst, he did it deliberately to weakvote a player upon whom nonrandom scrutiny had been placed.

[Jack]

[quote="Iecerint"]Yeah, that's the reason. The point of RVS is to generate non-RVS content. And it's not as if nothing had happened. My page 2 vote wasn't totally random. At best, he is not very thoughtful. At worst, he did it deliberately to weakvote a player upon whom nonrandom scrutiny had been placed.[/quote

He did the same in the only other game of his I can see. So I don't think we can take much from it.

Do a non-dice vote please SD.

[Iecerint]

Oh. How bothersome.

Unvote; Vote: greenindirt

[Iecerint]

I'm infatuated with Jack's avatar btw.

Just wanted to get that out there before I get my PM.

[DeathNote]

~Ok, All votes are in and Iecerint has his PM. Snow_Bunny has returned and will be receiving a role soon. I will also be sending of Zeus power to the person with the most votes. You will not know who this is unless they tell you. ~

[Iecerint]

Yep, 've got it. Fine with my vote, too.

Hi, SB. Glad you're sticking around. You're the only one I know apart from Plum, I think.

[greenindirt]

First, I think his real reason for choosing which wagon to vote was that there was more rhetoric behind the one he chose.

Alright, I've been trying to figure out what you're saying here but I'm not having any luck, so I'll ask you to clarify. What I'm reading is that you think my reason for voting for mindgamer was because of effective writing?

[Iecerint]

Yes. It wouldn't have been scummy if you'd said outright that that was the basis that your wagon choice, but you said it was something else. So it goes:

1. You choose wagon A over wagon B apparently for reason X.
2. You specify reason Y as the explanation.

Reasons X and Y are both fine, but substituting one for the other looks bad. It's possible you just didn't care that there was more rhetoric behind one than the other (i.e. that you're telling the truth), but at that level we start talking about anti-town play instead.

[greenindirt]

I'm confused by what you mean by effective writing. I get what you mean, that you think I voted for wagon A over B for reason X, but I give the reason Y, ie. I give a different reason than what the real reason was. I'm confused over the definition you are giving to Y and X.

[Iecerint]

I described the general case. In this case, X is the enhanced rhetoric associated with the chosen wagon. Y is that the chosen wagon was presented more recently.

[Johoohno]

@ MindGamer

: Strut your stuff, show us your alleged manipulation routine!

@ greenindirt

: Is MindGamer your top suspect as of now?

@ Iecerint

: Explain what happened between post 34 to 36 to make you change your vote.

@ Jack

: Would you say that Iecerint is following you or do you read his play between post 30 to 36 in another way?

People need to post.

Does above apply to you as well Vas?

[Mindgamer]

Vote Mindgamer

Every random vote needs a reason, no matter how silly it may be. What is your reason?

@ Shadow Dancer
Why did you choose to roll a dice?

@ MindGamer

: Strut your stuff, show us your alleged manipulation routine!

Not this game I'm afraid. I'm town aligned.

@ Jack
Dice rolling is completely useless? Do you not think that the decision to use a dice is in itself something from which we can substract information? I think scum is much more likely to use a dice than town.

[Iecerint]

In post 35, Jack indicated that Shadow Dancer /randoming an RVS target is normative for him. As such, it's null, and voting him would just be scolding his anti-town meta. Since my GiD vote is based on my perception that GiD's action was possibly scummy, that was the stronger tell, so I switched to GiD.

However, I now have a better tell.

Unvote; Vote: Jojoohno

. Your post insinuates that my behavior in posts 34 and/or 36 is unfavorably indicative of my alignment, but I had not yet received my role PM. Either you are benignly mistaken, or you're too desperate to find "scummy" behavior outside your niche.

MG, Jack already commented on that issue; SD rolled dice in his only other game on the site. Do you think he is nonetheless more likely to be scum?

[Jack]

@ Jack
Dice rolling is completely useless? Do you not think that the decision to use a dice is in itself something from which we can substract information? I think scum is much more likely to use a dice than town.

I don't think they are much more likely too. If he flips scum in his other game then maybe we can look back at it.

@Johoono: following me in what particular way?

[Snow_Bunny]

Ye thought a simple replacement could kill me, but ye forget I'm immortal!

(I'm back!)

Yep, 've got it. Fine with my vote, too.

Hi, SB. Glad you're sticking around. You're the only one I know apart from Plum, I think.

Vote: Iec

Hai!

[Iecerint]

That hurts my feelings.