The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)


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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:51 pm

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@dramonic- Old accounts mean experienced? It is case by case basis I am afraid.

@Sociopath- why are you voting a player without relevance to their alignment?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:52 pm

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Sajin wrote:@Sociopath- why are you voting a player without relevance to their alignment?

Heh. You are at least consistent with your inanity. Based on that, I refuse to answer your question.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:56 pm

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populartajo wrote:So Jordan, why were you against everyone random voting in this post?
~Jordan` wrote:ok. this is a terrible RVS. We need people to defend themselves; think; prosper. If literally EVERYONE randomly votes, then nothing will begin.

About Kise. He claims to be jester who can win during the Night, and announces it. obv lying.
I'm guessing some sort of martyr ability?

Kise wuld not want us to kill him if it didnt benefit him. Come now, people. Think.
Kmd and stark, random or what is the case on Vaya?
Lame excuses for bandwagoning were given
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:59 pm

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I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:59 pm

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SocioPath wrote:
Sajin wrote:@Sociopath- why are you voting a player without relevance to their alignment?

Heh. You are at least consistent with your inanity. Based on that, I refuse to answer your question.
I believe he only said he's willing to vote me.

That said he's obviously scum. Calls me anti-town but doesn't push me as being scum. Scum slip much? Perchance hes scum and knows I'm not....ohhh yess

unvote Vote SocioPath
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:00 pm

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Vaya wrote:I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
What are you looking for with the wagon than?

How about socio...i thinks he scum-slipped what do you think?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:02 pm

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Vaya wrote:I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
Yes. Obv Scum.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:03 pm

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@Socio- Fine, your not voting him but you are willing to.
Vote: Sociopath
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:06 pm

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Ohh the joys of pages of posts and not a whole lot of words.

I'm still hoping that everyone DOES vote so we can look at said mechanics.

@Jordan:

What "phase" are we in now and why would you be satisfied with it?

How do you reconcile the two quotes Sociopath put together?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:10 pm

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Consider it a policy lynch, more than an alignment lynch. Thats not to say that his actions aren't actually scummy, because they are.
But regardless of his alignment, his posts, if kept up, will detract from the game, especially with the active lurking style. That said, I'm willing to lynch that type of player.
Also just because I find someone scummy, doesn't mean I need to immidiely vote them, I already said I was happy with my vote placement as it stands.
If I could vote for multiple people, I would, but alas...

Both Sajin's and Bm's reactions to me are delightful.


Good to see my question refusal was met with an actual logical response though. I'll give both of you that much credit. <3
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:10 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Ohh the joys of pages of posts and not a whole lot of words.

I'm still hoping that everyone DOES vote so we can look at said mechanics.

@Jordan:

What "phase" are we in now and why would you be satisfied with it?

How do you reconcile the two quotes Sociopath put together?
Based on the mod vote page we know (or can likely assume) there is an extra vote out. What would be protown about outing voting mechanics or attributing them to certain people? What advantage for town do you see in discovering this? What would you do with this information when you obtained it?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:11 pm

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Benmage wrote:
Vaya wrote:I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
What are you looking for with the wagon than?
Nothing much really, but its not any worse than any other random vote.
Benmage wrote: How about socio...i thinks he scum-slipped what do you think?
Meh. I wouldn't call it a scum-slip.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:12 pm

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Sajin wrote:What would be protown about outing voting mechanics or attributing them to certain people? What advantage for town do you see in discovering this?
Double voters, much more often than not, are a Protown role, especially on day1. (Day2+ some roles can give double votes to anyone, including scum.)

Other than that, its a crap shoot as far as I know.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:21 pm

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Vaya wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Vaya wrote:I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
What are you looking for with the wagon than?
Nothing much really, but its not any worse than any other random vote.
It could have easily escalated on essentially nothingness as you urself agree your vote held no real weight. Thus leading to an innocent being forced to claim or even lynched under poor circumstances. I'm surprised you just mindlessly went along with this. Once a wagon gains speed it can easily snowball out of control with a few poor town players adding their voice and scum also backing it. Which are you?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:24 pm

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SocioPath wrote:
Sajin wrote:What would be protown about outing voting mechanics or attributing them to certain people? What advantage for town do you see in discovering this?
Double voters, much more often than not, are a Protown role, especially on day1. (Day2+ some roles can give double votes to anyone, including scum.)

Other than that, its a crap shoot as far as I know.
Sure. So why would we out at least one someone that has a double vote and therefore is likely town? Thus my post.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:24 pm

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Unvote; Vote: Benmage


That last post of his seemed needlessly/falsely paranoid, though frankly I'd need more attention span to reread right now to be sure I was taking it in the right context. Still better than random, I think. +1
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:27 pm

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Benmage wrote:
Vaya wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Vaya wrote:I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
What are you looking for with the wagon than?
Nothing much really, but its not any worse than any other random vote.
It could have easily escalated on essentially nothingness as you urself agree your vote held no real weight. Thus leading to an innocent being forced to claim or even lynched under poor circumstances. I'm surprised you just mindlessly went along with this. Once a wagon gains speed it can easily snowball out of control with a few poor town players adding their voice and scum also backing it. Which are you?
Seriously Benmage? There's nothing wrong with a early wagon. If it ever got serious and I didn't agree with it, I'd unvote. Nobody should be lynched or forced to claim this early anyway.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:28 pm

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Sajin wrote:
SocioPath wrote:
Sajin wrote:What would be protown about outing voting mechanics or attributing them to certain people? What advantage for town do you see in discovering this?
Double voters, much more often than not, are a Protown role, especially on day1. (Day2+ some roles can give double votes to anyone, including scum.)

Other than that, its a crap shoot as far as I know.
Sure. So why would we out at least one someone that has a double vote and therefore is likely town? Thus my post.
Eh, now that is debatable.
Although from an optimistic point of view, we have enough power roles (27) that an essentially confirmed Protown role day1 would get the kind of protection he needs.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:33 pm

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Vaya wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Vaya wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Vaya wrote:I need a good reason for jumping on an early bandwagon?
What are you looking for with the wagon than?
Nothing much really, but its not any worse than any other random vote.
It could have easily escalated on essentially nothingness as you urself agree your vote held no real weight. Thus leading to an innocent being forced to claim or even lynched under poor circumstances. I'm surprised you just mindlessly went along with this. Once a wagon gains speed it can easily snowball out of control with a few poor town players adding their voice and scum also backing it. Which are you?
Seriously Benmage? There's nothing wrong with a early wagon. If it ever got serious and I didn't agree with it, I'd unvote. Nobody should be lynched or forced to claim this early anyway.
I usually cast votes on people I think are at least scummy to some type of degree. Or have no issue naming it a policylynch....Saying you'd unvote if it got
serious
is really odd.

But your calling your vote random now, if i'm not mistaken. A random wagon vote can't be entirely random....so what were you trying to achieve by wagoning? Or get from the wagon itself?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:36 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Ohh the joys of pages of posts and not a whole lot of words.

I'm still hoping that everyone DOES vote so we can look at said mechanics.

@Jordan:

What "phase" are we in now and why would you be satisfied with it?

How do you reconcile the two quotes Sociopath put together?
omfg what is with the questionairre posts? We are out of the RVS and now beginning Day 1 thinking.

sigh...i need energy for this re-read.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:46 pm

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Benmage wrote:I usually cast votes on people I think are at least scummy to some type of degree. Or have no issue naming it a policylynch....Saying you'd unvote if it got
serious
is really odd.

But your calling your vote random now, if i'm not mistaken. A random wagon vote can't be entirely random....so what were you trying to achieve by wagoning? Or get from the wagon itself?
I'm not sure what the issue is here. I already explained that I didn't have any real reason for jumping on the wagon. So if the wagon became serious, I would get off it if I didn't agree with it. I don't see what's odd about it.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:49 pm

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Vaya wrote: I'm not sure what the issue is here. I already explained that I didn't have any real reason for jumping on the wagon. So if the wagon became serious, I would get off it if I didn't agree with it. I don't see what's odd about it.
I dont mean to drag the issue out. You voted just to vote. Whether you voted on any of the 27 players or the wagon the vote wouldnt of been any different or had any different meaning for you.... Is that correct?
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:49 pm

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Are people
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taking Kise seriously? Come on people.

Ben, you were obvtown and a pretty good player in Yaw's game. Please don't go back to your old ways here.

Vaya, even in the RVS, voting without other text is bad.

Socio, NEVER assume a double vote comes from one alignment over the other. It's a case-by-case thing.

Unvote
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Vote Benmage
. We just played a game where pointless spew and spam hurt the town VERY badly. I think he's trying to intentionally replicate this as scum.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:52 pm

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Kmd4390 wrote:
Vote Benmage
. We just played a game where pointless spew and spam hurt the town VERY badly. I think he's trying to intentionally replicate this as scum.
Pfft, go bark up a different tree. Just let my question and maybe a few more occur and I'll slow down.

The first spam was to be comical...now I am actually trying to see something...I wont flood 10 pages in 24 hours again i promise. :wink:
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:54 pm

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Official Vote Count (Page 5, Day 1)


Jordan
-5 (vollkan, VP Baltar, SocioPath, Battle Mage, Vaya)
Kise -4 (populartajo, Kublai Khan, Cass, dramonic)
Benmage -3 (Plum, Kmd4390, tubby216)
Cass - 2 (Jordan, Porkens)
SocioPath -2 (Benmage, Sajin)
Vaya -1 (stark )
Kublai Khan -1 (milkshake)
Kmd4390 -1 (Snow_Bunny)
tubby216 -1 (cicero)
Plum -1 (DeathNote)
Porkens -1 (SpyreX)

Not Voting:
DrippingGoofball, alvins95, Kise, Rosso Carne, KaleiÐoscøpe,

Note: Deadline will be at the earliest, 10/19 6:00AM EST, with 28 whole votes available, it takes 15 to lynch.
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