Mini 770: Amnesia Mafia - Over!

[Sotty7]

Wouldn't the DGB roleblock be negated from the kill? I knew someone else besides me had to be saving posts, but I find it strange that Sotty would be blocked if DGB was killed.

No. Roleblocks go though

before

kills in the order of night actions. So if DGB had picked the last scum to roleblock she would have saved her life. Instead she blocked me and she died anyway.

You still haven't explained why your posts weren't saved last night.

Vote Forbidden

btw.

Errr... Why?

yeah forb i did my best to indicate to you that i was the one responsible for the treats you were getting without being completely blatant. fortunately the amnesia thing lends itself to targeted breadcrumbing, because scum can never go back and look for the breadcrumbs.

Yeah, I figured it was that. Good play as I picked up on it. I'm amazed I didn't out you to be honest (since I sometimes make such stupid mistakes)

After you received your one shot watch on night one, I thought you were a thief that stole from rofl with the way the two of you interacted over that whole thing. So yeah, the inventor and forb being rofl's target makes sense to me. I believe both claims.

3. VP is being pressured hard by a few people now, but I have protected him twice and no one has attempted to kill him. I find that a little strange with all the love DGB received in this game. Maybe there is a slight DGB fear factor amongst the scum.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this point. No one trying to kill VP fits if he is scum. As for the rest of your points, I really really doubt that we have a 4 man scum team

with

an SK. Forb and rofl can't be scum together. I agree that Farside hasn't done much but what she has done hasn't been that scummy. Basically I'm of the opinion that if she was scum she would have more interest in the game. Yeah, yeah I know WIFOM and all that, still the discrepancies in VP's claim are clear. To me at least.

[SlySly]

using role flavor as a reason to suspect someone = bad idea. mafia fakeclaims are called

fake

claims for a reason.

I was merely stating things as I see them. I wasn't necessarily saying I found you scummy because your role is scummy by nature. My entire post was a process of elimination leading up to my vote when you take it as a whole.

forb is more confirmed because as scum she would not have revealed results confirming sotty as town

Because of my belief in the claims, I think forb is town. Because I think forb is town, I think you are town. 4 scum are unlikely in this game with a SK, but the actions you gave forbiddan, as scum she would now have a perfect way to appear town and could falsely 'confirm' a scum buddy. I don't believe that is the case though.

i'm not sure what you're getting on about with dgb fear, but the fact that your protected him is not a valid reason to not suspect him. ... so you protecting him is worth jack shit in terms of his alignment.

DGB fear = scum scared DGB, due to her extensive experience and over abundant self image, will expose them and everyone will believe it, leading to scum lynch.

I was pretty much saying that my protection didn't clear VP. He could be scum. That would explain him not being targeted by scum while under my protection. I do find his vote on forbiddan strange, as he hinted at the possibility of her being town in the post prior to his vote.

and there's a lot more going for a baltar lynch right now.

Convince me. The ying and the yang angle of the post saving is a little bit of "out guess the mod" wifom, IMO.

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I agree that Farside hasn't done much but what she has done hasn't been that scummy.

forbiddan, rofl, sotty (all cleared in my mind by forbiddan and rofl's claims)
VP (I think he is town)
SlySly(duh, I am town)

Farside is the only one left.

Not that her scumminess matters to me since I have eliminated everyone else, she has tried to throw me under the bus a few times in this game (once heavily because of raj's claim clearing him in my mind because of something in his claim matching something in my PM) and she has lurked. I know these aren't huge scum tells, but there is no one else left to vote for, and that makes these small tells start to make more sense.

[roflcopter]

i'll convince you that vp baltar is a better lynch than farside when i wake up tomorrow

i don't think it really makes a difference, we have one absolutely confirmed player and three very nearly confirmed players, so at this point we should be able to process of elimination our way to victory.

on top of that we have a protective role and someone will be granted watching powers again tonight, so thats two ways for the scum to get boned on their kill.

in case we lynch wrong today sly should be protecting sotty, i'll give sotty watcher powers, and sotty can choose one of {forb, sly, rofl} to watch without announcing beforehand who it will be to make the night a minefield for the scum to traverse.

[VP Baltar]

Forb vote was an accident. I was borrowing internet and was in a hurry before I lost it. I meant to

Unvote Vote:farside

by process of elimination.

That being said, I was thinking about forbidden's stance in this game. If scum, it wouldn't really matter if she confirmed Sotty as town because she would only need two mislynches to win (myself and farside, potentially). Confirming Sotty would give her enough townie points to make it through relatively unquestioned.

@Sotty, I did say why I had no posts saved last night. Before you even claimed. It's part of my role, they don't get saved every night necessarily.

[SlySly]

Forb vote was an accident. I was borrowing internet and was in a hurry before I lost it. I meant to

Unvote Vote:farside

by process of elimination.

lol, I did the same thing. I just caught it in preview.

[roflcopter]

uh...........i'm drunk

[roflcopter]

vote for blatar let send the gmae

[SlySly]

i'll convince you that vp baltar is a better lynch than farside when i wake up tomorrow

uh...........i'm drunk

vote for blatar let send the gmae

sorry, I'm not convinced. intriguing evidence you've put forth, though.

[roflcopter]

ik now the evidence is phenomenla just do it

[roflcopter]

seriously though the scum is either vp baltar or farside, so lynching baltar is at worst putting offf a win by one day cause if its not baltar we just follow the plan i put forth for nightactiins and lynch farside tomrrow

[SlySly]

seriously though the scum is either vp baltar or farside, so lynching baltar is at worst putting offf a win by one day cause if its not baltar we just follow the plan i put forth for nightactiins and lynch farside tomrrow

Well, with that logic, you should just switch your vote to farside and we can worry about VP tomorrow. At least VP is participating. LAL.

[roflcopter]

nah vps a bettter lymnch seriously

[SlySly]

nah vps a bettter lymnch seriously

Your continuous refusal to present a case against VP makes the possibility grow of you being some form of specialized scum that can grant town powers. Your claimed role IS scummy by nature.

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@farside

You claimed vanilla. Any flavor in your PM in regards to your role; i.e. role title?

[VP Baltar]

Seriously though rofl, consider my play in this game compared to farside's. Which has been more town like? I'm 99% sure she is the last scum. Start thinking beyond your gut because it hasn't been very effective this game it seems.

[Sotty7]

It's not gut, your claim doesn't add up VP.

You are 99% sure the last scum is Farside. What if your wrong, who else do you think is scum?

[VP Baltar]

My next guess would be that forbidden has been playing the town for sometime via rofl's injections. By semi confirming SlySly early and you now she is pretty much considered "confirmed" town, but there is really nothing other than the WIFOM that scum wouldn't confirm town that is making people believe she is who she says she is.

[farside22]

Here is what I can tell you about my role without quoting directly.

I'm Amnesia Townie. Hit on the head and so I forget everything including where the bathroom is. No special anything. Win with town

[farside22]

I really don't see VP as scum this game. So sotty's claim and his coinside but I'm not going to out guess the mod and believe one is scum and one is town or if both is town. That's just not a good idea.
Since everyone has claimed at this point and you feel I'm the best lynch then by all means lynch me. I've been playing terrible but I'm not scum

[roflcopter]

why don't you think vp is scum, farside

who do you think is scum

if you're town you need to try to find scum, not give up and offer yourself up for lynch and leave us in lylo tomorrow.

[elvis_knits]

Crazy bottom of page vote count

:

VP Baltar (2) - sotty rofl
farside (2) - Sly, VP
sotty (1) - farside

Not voting:
forbiddanlight

With 6 alive, 4 to lynch!

[roflcopter]

the biggest reason why i am a proponent of lynching baltar today is his attempts to keep as many people unconfirmed as possible. in particular the questioning of the "roleblocked=not scum" conclusion on sotty is extremely scummy.

[roflcopter]

keep in mind that at endgame confirmed townies are literally the worst thing that can happen to scum

[VP Baltar]

Are you referring to when I was asking about which night action takes precedence? That was an honest question. This is the first time I've ever been in a game where it could matter, so I wanted someone to clarify. It's not like I continued to argue about it after you stated which was would count first.

keep in mind that at endgame confirmed townies are literally the worst thing that can happen to scum

Not if that townie is cleared along with them.

I don't know what to make of farside's last post. It's always a tough read for me when townie's take on that fatalist tinge. I would also like to hear who she thinks is scum.

[VP Baltar]

2. forbidden is less confirmed knowing that her claimed powers were the results of injections from rofl.

Possibly. But if rofl is scum, odds are I'm town. Secondly, if rofl WAS scum, why didn't he shoot up his two buddies? I'm assuming 3 scum, because 4 mafia and an SK is...excessive.

I just noticed this as I was rereading. forbidden answers this point as if it were proposing rofl to be scum, which it clearly was not. It was talking about her being less confirmed as town because of her powers.

[farside22]

why don't you think vp is scum, farside

who do you think is scum

if you're town you need to try to find scum, not give up and offer yourself up for lynch and leave us in lylo tomorrow.

I want to say what I think but I need to read something because I'm just going off of feeling right now and not what is going on in the game.