Double-Headed & Speedy Deep South Massive public review

[Adel]

Edit: the official sign-up (hydra confirmation) thread is now open. Please read the first post before confirming.

I am getting ready to run my next game

Double-Headed & Speedy Deep South Massive

. I will appreciate any comments or thoughts the rest of you have on my proposed role PMs and rule-set.

I plan for it to start on April 27th.

I will run two 14-player games,

DHSDSM

α

and

DHSDSM

β

. Both games will include the same players.
All players will be Hydras (single account played by two and only two players) and both members of each hydra will public information.

Hydras made up of two productive players from one of my previous games or WIHII, or made up of a notable player (in my subjective opinion) + newbie (less than 1500 game posts) will enjoy front of the line privileges. Those that meet that critera will be in bold as soon as I confirm such. I expect that hydras made up of players from different time-zones will enjoy a tactical advantage in both games.

Pre-/ins:

• 1. Zaphod Beeblebrox (DGB+Plum)
  
  
  2. Apples and Banana (SensFan+xofelf)
  
  
  3. Zmd (ZazieR+Kmd4390)
  
  
  4. Trotsky (Korts+roflcopter)
  
  5. Wizardkat1516 (Wizardcat+kloud1516)
  6. Death the Hogfather (Kairyuu+Seraphim)
  
  7. Incamnito (Incognito+camn)
  
  
  8. Yosariwen (Yosarian2+Nuwen)
  
  10. Ortohoops (ortolan+Hoopla)
  11. sex w/ shafteds wife club (elvis_knits+shaft.ed)
  12. PoketheAlpaca (PokerFace+populartajo)
  
  13. Pesco-Light (forbiddanlight+Pesco)
  
  
  14. Raging Wishbone (Raging Rabbit+WaltWishbone)
  
  
  15. J-Scope (Jahudo+KaleiÐoscøpe)
  
  16. Frog Dodging (Shanba+JDodge)
  (There are only 14 player slots, I am overbooking. The actual player list will be finalized in the official sign-up thread.)

All slots for pre-/in are now filled.

There will be one 3-player mafia group and either 1 Compulsive Vig or 1 SK in each game.

Possible Roles for

DHSDSM

α

and

DHSDSM

β

All roles that appear in the game are from this list. Not every role in this list is used in the game.

Compulsive Vig

You are a Vigilante. You are frustrated with the ineffective procedures of the town, really frustrated. Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one player, and you will take out your frustrations by killing that player. If you do not send me the name of a player by an action phase, you will immediately kill a random player (you may be that random player) instead, and that random kill will be identified as a random kill in the victim's death scene. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Cop

You are a Cop. By breaking police procedures and violating a person’s right to privacy, you can tell the difference between scum and town. Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one player and I will tell you (via PM and within 18 hours) if that player is innocent or guilty of being scum. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. I will deliver your investigation results by sending you a PM containing the quoted text of your action PM along with either "innocent" or "guilty" or (if your action is blocked) "no result".

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Doctor

You are a Doctor, dedicated to saving lives. Once every action phase you can PM me the name of one player, and that player will be protected from

one

kill for the next action phase. You can PM your first target before the game begins. You can not protect yourself. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Mafia Doctor

You are a Doctor, dedicated to saving lives. Once every action phase you can PM me the name of one player, and that player will be protected from

one

kill for the next action phase. You can PM your first target before the game begins. You can not protect yourself. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You are also a member of the _____ Mafia with _____. Due to the Oath of Hippocrates, you are not allowed to perform your Mafia’s kill.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.

Mafia Godfather

You are the mighty Godfather of the _____ Mafia. ________ are also members of your mafia. Because you are so crafty, you are immune to Cop investigations.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

Once every action phase a single member of your mafia can PM me the name of a player to kill, and which member of your mafia is committing your kill. If I receive more than one PM for the kill during an action phase from your mafia, only the first one sent will count. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.

Mafia Goon

You are a Goon in the _____ Mafia. ________ are also members of your mafia.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

Once every action phase a single member of your mafia can PM me the name of a player to kill, and which member of your mafia is committing your kill. If I receive more than one PM for the kill during an action phase from your mafia, only the first one sent will count. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.

Mafia Roleblocker

You are a Roleblocker in the _____ Mafia. ________ are also members of your mafia.

While you are alive, you can talk with the other living members of your mafia via the quicktopic thread found at________.

Once every action phase a single member of your mafia can PM me the name of a player to kill, and which member of your mafia is committing your kill. If I receive more than one PM for the kill during an action phase from your mafia, only the first one sent will count. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens.

As an additional ability, once every action phase you may PM me the name of a player. That player’s action will not occur during the next action phase. If I do not receive a PM before end of an action phase you will not block any player. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You may perform both your mafia's kill as well as roleblock in the same action phase.

You win if only members of your mafia are alive at the end of the game.

Roleblocker

You are a Roleblocker.

Once every action phase you may PM me the name of a player. That player’s action will not occur during the next action phase. If I do not receive a PM before end of a day you will not block any player. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. You will not be informed if your action is blocked.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Serial Killer

You are an evil and calculating Serial Killer. Because you are so crafty, you are immune to kills other than your own.

Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one player, and you will take out your frustrations by killing that player. If you do not send me the name of a player by the end of an action phase, you will kill a random player (you may be that random player) instead, and that random kill will be identified as a random kill in the victim's death scene. Other roles might interfere with your killing ability; you will not be notified if this happens. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text.


You win if you are the only player left alive at the end of the game.

Townie

You are a Townie. You have no abilities other than your vote.

You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Tracker

You are a Tracker. Once every action phase you may PM me the name of one other player. If that player uses an ability on any other players during the next action phase, I will tell you (via PM, and between 6 and 30 hours after I receive their PM) the names of those players targeted. If your action is blocked you will not be informed. I will acknowledge receipt of your action PM by quoting your PM back to you with no added text. I will deliver your investigation results by sending you a PM containing the quoted text of your action PM along with either "none" or the names of the players that your target targeted. You can PM me your first target before the game begins.


You win if only town-aligned players are alive at the end of the game.

Rules:

1.

You may

not

PM or IM or otherwise contact any player at anytime about this game, regardless of if you are living or dead. If your role makes an exception to this rule for you, strictly follow the new rule in your role PM. Exception: all forms of intra-hydra communication are allowed.

2.

Once you are dead you can no longer post in-thread.

Not even a "bah." post.

Seriously.

3.

Each player can vote for exactly one other player at a time during the day. Make your choice in bold letters like

Vote: YYYYYY

.

4.

To change your vote, post

Unvote

in bold letters, or make a post voting for someone else in accordance with

3.

.

5.

Cast votes and unvotes that do not follow the formatting guideline described in (3.) and (4.) will

not

be counted.

6.

A lynch will occur when more than 50% of the players have their votes placed upon the same player, or have their votes placed upon

Nolynch

. After the 50%+1 threshold is reached, the lynch will occur regardless of any subsequent posting. Kills will be posted in thread between 6 and 30 hours after I receive them by PM. I will attempt to randomize the delay as much as possible to prevent date/time type confirmation of kill source.

7.

Day and Twilight:

• "Day" is defined as the period between the moderator's "Start of Day __" post, and when either a vote is cast that places a player past the 50%+1 threshold necessary for a lynch. Role actions can only be submitted during periods of Day.
  "Twilight" is defined as the period between the time of the final valid vote necessary for a lynch or nolynch was cast and the following "Start of Day ___" post, or the "Twilight Expiration Trigger". Role actions are not valid if they are submitted during periods of twilight.
  Twilight Expiration Trigger: Twilight (the period following the last vote needed to lynch,) will last for a set period. In alpha that period will be 6 to 18 hours. In beta that period will be = to 2 * the number of living players in posts. No votes will be accepted during twilight, and action submissions for the following period of day
  will not
  be accepted during Twilight. Flavor Excuse: lynchings are messy. The town has to clean up the gallows, burn the body, ect.. and it takes some time to build up the level of aggression necessary to kill another of your neighbors who might very well be innocent.

8.

Action phases:

• DHSDSM

  α
  : reset every 84 hours.
  • a note on "Time": all times will be in UTC, and each action phase will have a countdown timer, similar to this countdown timer to the start of the games.
  DHSDSM

  β
  : reset on pages: 13, 24, 32, 37, 40, 43, and every third page after that (46, 49, 52...).

9.

This game will not have deadlines. Ever.

10.

When 72 hours have passed without an individual player posting, I will prod that player

only if specifically requested to do so in-thread

by any other player.

11.

If a prodded player does not open the prodding PM within 72 hours he will be replaced. Until a replacement is found the player facing replacement can still vote and post. If I have to prod a player a third time during the game, I will replace him. If you expect to be unable to post in the game for 48+ hours, send me a PM. I do not check the vacation/leave thread.

12.

Hydras (two players sharing the same alt account) are encouraged as a way to reduce the chances of replacement. All hydras will be public (all players will know who makes up each hydra) and hydras are static. You can't replace half of your hydra. I will not deal with hydra drama. If you PM me about drama within your hydra (not getting along, she changed the password, whatever), I'll just replace that hydra. Claiming to be experiencing hydra drama within the game thread is allowed...

but if you use your non-hydra account to do so you will be replaced

. Replacing out = loss. Replacing out for tactical reasons = ban from my future games.

13.

Special rule for

DHSDSM

β

: Spam is not allowed.

• The second time you post more than three times in a row you will be modkilled. You will not be warned. Six posts in a row = modkill. Hydras need to be extra careful of this rule. Posts by alt account will count towards the mod-kill.
  Making more than 15 posts within an hour will also result in a modkill

14.

If you have the ability to edit posts, don't do it in this thread.

15.

If you have any questions please ask me via PM or in-thread as they occur to you. I will be as fair and helpful as I can.

16.

Every moderator will make mistakes, and I am no exception. Please be patient, understanding, and forgiving towards me.

17.

I support free speech. Quote anything you like

(except for ongoing games!)

whenever you like. All forms of cryptography that do not

require

software (or more than 1 hour for me to work with just pen and paper) for encryption or decryption are acceptable as well. Do not PM or otherwise contact players outside the thread with game related information unless you are explicitly permitted.

18.

Talking about ongoing games is against Mafiascum.net rules. See mith's post at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6470 for the complete set of forum rules.

• Exceptions: you may
  • *cite when (date, time) a player has posted elsewhere on this site
    *cite information posted by a moderator in another game (including alignment if it is revealed by the mod)
  You shall not otherwise reference another game.
  If you write a post that has a chance of breaking this site-wide rule, PM it to me before you post it. I will tell you if it would get you modkilled or not.

19.

The game ends when all living players are members of the same faction. If the game never ends then there will never be a "winner".

20.

Breaking a rule = death for a given value of death. I determine that value. A modkill will not end the day.

[Thestatusquo]

Adel and I did the same thing at approximately the exact same time.

[Adel]

two differences: I am accepting pre-/ins and this game has hydras!

[DrippingGoofball]

Who wants to hydra with me?

[Plum]

I do!

[SensFan]

Looking for a hydra partner.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

I do!

OK Plum! This is DrippingGoofball. Wanna be Zaphod Beeblebrox with me?

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

This is Plum checking in, and I most definitely do.

[shaft.ed]

We are all Adel's guinea pigs

I like how you are going to run a nice experiment to compare real life time deadlines with in game post deadlines. Good controls too!

[Adel]

We are all Adel's guinea pigs

I like how you are going to run a nice experiment to compare real life time deadlines with in game post deadlines. Good controls too!

Thanks! I've been thinking a lot about several of these elements. WIHII gave me a series of epiphanies... so here is a big kiss for Mr. Flay:

[Claus]

Adel, your Role PM's are a bit confusing regarding the time limit of dynamic roles (roleblocker, Doctor, etc).

When a doc/etc sends you a PM, when does his action starts to take place?
- At the timestamp of the doctor action PM?
- At the time stamp of your reply PM?
- At the start of the next "action" period to be defined by the mod?

EDIT: reading carefully, it seems that it is the third option, but this is not clear from a first reading of the role PM.

Also, the Vig's random kill takes place only at the time of the lynch, as opposed to his normal kill that takes place immediately?

[Adel]

Adel, your Role PM's are a bit confusing regarding the time limit of dynamic roles (roleblocker, Doctor, etc).

When a doc/etc sends you a PM, when does his action starts to take place?
- At the timestamp of the doctor action PM?
- At the time stamp of your reply PM?
- At the start of the next "action" period to be defined by the mod?

EDIT: reading carefully, it seems that it is the third option, but this is not clear from a first reading of the role PM.

the third, and all of the action periods are determined in advance. In the case fo the first game, in 84 hour blocks (explicitly listed using UTC times), and in the case of the second, in 150 game-post blocks.

Also, the Vig's random kill takes place only at the time of the lynch, as opposed to his normal kill that takes place immediately?

immediately. editing now to clear that up.

[Nuwen]

Depending on when this starts, I might be interested in pre-inning

(prior experience in WIHII). My next two weeks contain a veritable mountain of paper and workshop preparation - I'm being forced to seek out replacement in almost all of my current games, so I feel that a definite prein would be in poor form. I'll light some prayer beads to the replacement karma gods.

Edit: Reading is an awesome skill. I get better at it all the time. I should be clear by the 27th.

[Stef]

Ehm.. so I qualify as a newbie player and need a mentor to play this game? /pre-in

[ortolan]

I would like to play, I do not qualify as a newbie as I am a few hundred posts over 1500, but clearly not in the other category either.

I am in Australia which makes me appealing for North American players

Happy to pair with SensFan if you'll have me

[Shanba]

Ehm.. so I qualify as a newbie player and need a mentor to play this game? :) /pre-in

I'd partner with Stef :D

[Korts]

Dibs on rofl. PM'd him.

[Adel]

I like how you are going to run a nice experiment to compare real life time deadlines with in game post deadlines.

note that there aren't any deadlines for lynches. Every so often (84 hours, or 150-game posts) people with abilities get their ability reset.

Players are free to lynch as frequently or infrequently as they like.

[SensFan]

xofelf and I are going to hybrid together.

Account coming shortly.

---

Sorry ortolan, but I asked her personally, and she was my first choice. Nothing personal against you.

[Apples and Banana]

This is Sens/xofelf

[Zmd]

Yeah, we're /in as well.
Zaz and Kmd here in case the sig wasn't obvious enough

[PokerFace]

I have been meaning to be in a deep south and a double head game. doing them at same time would be crazy.

I'd like to be paired with one or all of the following:

shaft.ed because he kicks ass and helped start the alpaca craze
Tajo he is an alpaca and I didn't play with him enough in black fang
elvis she thinks like me in some games and loves alpaccas and has female intuition

xtoxm since he would be able to activly keep up with a deep south game while I may not be
Korlash because he makes me laugh and is like a brother to me
rolf or DGB if they weren't taken it seems
kison cause he kicks ass with pics
or Gurgi who just kicks ass

I would also possibly accept being with others that kick ass who don't think like me as much like PEG or possibly ortolan should none of the above apply and should ortolan have not found someone to be with. I can't promise alot of activity just yet, so whoever I'm with will have to do alot of the work.

I warn you all in advance!

Edit: Making an account called alpaca working with tajo, shaft.ed and elvis all at once would be one crazy hydra if they were all down with it. You gonna allow only 2 people per hydra or can you allow more? Picking which one to be with will be difficult pending who responds to this post.

[Apples and Banana]

and this is xofelf confirming to play with Sens as Apples and Banana.... and that doesn't quite sound right.... never mind..

[populartajo]

/in.
Ive been looking forward to play with Pokerface again.
We can make the poker alpaca team!

[PokerFace]

/in.
Ive been looking forward to play with Pokerface again.
We can make the poker alpaca team!

Well let's see exactly how many adel will allow in a hydra first. Is shaft.ed, you, or elvis involved in co-modding this or are all able to play?
If only 2 are allowed in a hyrda the 4 of us will have to pair off and if one of us is stuck co-modding then we'll need a 4th to pair off with should 3 to one account still not be allowed