I got prodded! But I only posted a page ago.
Also, this is going to be a really long post. I apologize, and brace yourselves.
Anyway...
@Akonas:
Akonas wrote:
I just don't agree with your logic.
1. A good argument is one that makes its maker seem like town.
2. Scum would make a good argument, so as to seem town.
3. vampireofdusseldorf's argument is bad, therefore scum would not make it.
4. scum would not make it, therefore it is a good argument.
Proof by contradiction. One of those must be wrong (hint: it's 3); QED.
It's not a good argument, though, because most of us aren't buying it. A better argument would be knowing that it was the hammer vote and strongly feeling that mozsuggs was scum. Then we might ask for explanation, but it wouldn't look as scummy. The "I didn't know" crap makes VoD look like he's trying to get out of it and doing a bad job. This argument doesn't make him seem like town at all, it just seems like he's trying to be honest. He could still be town or scum, the argument he's making doesn't prove or disprove either.
@Talitha: Why are Cephrir and vikingfan suspicious to you?
@darkdude:
darkdude wrote:
More like "Your attack can make any town into scum" but whatever.
GAHHHH!!!!! We're trying to find who scum is. How do you propose we do that, if not to "attack" whoever seems scummiest? (I'd prefer to use the word interrogate - attack is much to violent for the effect I'm employing.) You've already admitted that you see why you appear scummiest. Please use argument and logic, or point out why other people are suspicious - anything, really!
@Akonas:
Akonas wrote:
Townies don't need to worry about being seen as scum. Try to find who scum is and you will help town win. Worry overmuch about suspicion on you and you will just serve to clog up the works. I don't know whether you're scum or not; I'm getting some scum vibes, but the fact that people are suspicious of you DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL GET LYNCHED! So just put your head on your shoulders and PLAY THE GAME.
:applause: (Also, on his shoulders as opposed to his arse? - I think that's where mozsuggs said his was.)
Anyway, how strange that you've been more active than I have. I guess we can blame Civ IV for that.
@darkdude:
darkdude wrote:
Well yes I know, but given the situation I think the priority right now is that I should avoid getting lynched, because if town loses 2 members by tomorrow it could be disastrous if there were 4 scum.
But you're not doing anything to avoid getting lynched!
darkdude wrote:
Obviously you can suspect me due to scummy play, but Quantum Fruit stated that I was suspicious due to the fact that I pressured VoD while ignoring that I was also a good suspect (at least that's what I made of her statement). So simplified:
Case = I point fingers at people while ignoring possible signs of scum from myself
Counter = I did not need to concentrate on details against me if I were pro town
When did I do that? The way you accused VoD was when there was a bandwagon already forming and it seemed as though you were doing that to divert attention from yourself.
@VoD:
VoD wrote:
I had a chace to put an L-1 vote on you that probably would have caused an even greater freak out
Are you afraid of looking more suspicious for similar behavior?
VoD wrote:
I have not even completed a full game on this site yet but what has helped me to understand this "community culture" is reading through the forums or the wiki.
Yeah, I haven't completed a full game either. I haven't really read through the forums or the wiki either. Then again, Akonas has been playing for a while, so maybe that's why I'm used to it.
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Hmm...I think I'll break the posts up a little. This is all in response to page 14. Now, I'll do 15 in another post.