Writing as I read...
cicero wrote:No. If you are scum and CKD is town, your move there was to hammer, because you win the game.
But you did not hammer.
So that means if CKD is scum, you ARE scum.
It is NECESSARY to fonz being scum that CKD is scum.
It is NOT NECESSARY to CKD being scum that Fonz is scum, because Fonz-town wouldn't know either way.
cicero wrote:IF CKD is scum Fonz is also scum. Not the inverse. I havent turned my mind to the inverse because we arent (currently) lynching Fonz.
Wrong. I beg of you, go to your nearest uni campus and speak to a professor that teaches critical thinking or logic. You've got it backwards. The possibilities are:
1. CKD scum Fonz scum - this makes sense; he'd not necessarily hammer his buddy
2. CKD scum Fonz town - this makes sense; Fonz as town would be cautious
3. CKD town Fonz town - this makes sense; Fonz as town would be cautious
4. CKD town Fonz scum -
doesn't make sense; Fonz as scum would've won the game here
Therefore, you've shown that:
If CKD is town, Fonz must be town
If Fonz is scum, CKD must be scum
And not vice versa.
shafted wrote:The Fonz can only be scum with Adele.
What?? Where did that come from?
shafted wrote:EBWOP: Looks like a lot of us have a case of the whoopsies today. Above should obviously read Fonz CANNOT be scum with Adele.
Oh, ok. heh
CKD wrote: And how have I been damaging adele? By jailing you? I didnt jail you last night and no one targetted you, how am I damaging? How is jailing DGB damaging?
I think you've confused yourself; your fakeclaim this morning was that you jailed CES, not DGB.
CKD wrote:Adele wrote:If someone besides CKD presents any arguments against me, I'm happy to try to refute them (heck, CKD too, if he promises not to give me 500 essay-length ones; like I say, I have limited time, and I'm really sorry about that,
hey a reason to lurk, you do however have plenty of time to post junk in the GD.
Well, duh. The thing about posting junk is it takes minimal analysis, thought or time, so i can intersperse it with my other online responsibilities.
CKD wrote:WHY ISNT ANYONE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ADELE’S POSSIBLE SCUM PARTNERS?! ANYONE CURIOUS WHY NO ONE IS BRINGING THAT UP?
Well, we're making discoveries. Like that Fonz surely
isn't
scum with me (unless... does CKD, Fonz and me make sense? Big gambit, and not true, incidentally, but is it hypothetically possible?)
CKD wrote:Adele/Shafted/Cicero…Fonz confirms Cicero N3, so Cicero did not submit the kill last night. Adele watched to see if anyone else targeted Yvonne, shafted submitted the kill. Adele covers shafted by saying he targeted Yvonne...this could work, especially Night one, Cicero could have submitted the kill and claimed to have networked shafted. Cicero could have submitted the kill Night 2, and claimed to have targeted Adele, Adele who had watched (
but failed because I jailed her, could have told Cicero before the day started in a PM that her watched failed
). Also shafted could have submitted the kill N2 but I doubt it. This pairing could really work.
Regarding the bold: No, I couldn't. When I get the information PM from the mod, the night is over. I have
never
deliberately broken any site rules, and would
never
communicate with scumbuddies during a no-contact period. This theory fails because it assumes me to have cheated - and I really hope everyone here knows that I wouldn't do that, as town, or scum, or SK, or flying pumpkin. If the implication you were making here was lost on you, CKD, I apologise, but there are a many things I'd do to win a game of mafia, and cheating is not one of them. And the suggestion otherwise offends me.
CKD wrote:To me the only pairing that really could work (ie makes sense) is Adele/Shafted/Cicero, followed by Adele/DGB/Shafted....and then MAYBE Adele/Shafted/CES
Interesting. I look forward to someone doing this sort of analysis on CKD... but seriously, i'm not the one to do it; you would experience the same sort of pain from my attempting that as we got from the above "If Fonz then CKD" fiasco.
And, no, CKD, it's not appropriate to try to get people to vote a certain way by promising them something after the game ends - regardless of whether that something is money, chocolates, or another stupid thread to clutter the GD up with. knowing how people generally post, though, and trying to read them, is part of the game.