Mini 563 - Fish Monkey God (ROCKS FALL EVERYONE DIES)

[Serous]

My exams are over, so I am posting again. Thought s will be coming soon. Have several other games to go to.

[QuantumFruit]

I'm back as well.

I reread everything, and there's nothing really new to comment on, except for the clear contradictions in roffman's points (which people have already stated).

How does this color detecting program work, roffman? Is it something we all have on our computers or is it a special program? If it's something we all should have, then please tell us how to use it. In what format do colors come up? Would turquoise be abbreviated or something of that nature? Basically - explain the contradictions everyone's pointed out.

[armlx]

Capricious:

Your arguments are bad.

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Why would he reveal he had info about cloak colors pre-claim if people where already claiming? Lets just give the scum a heads up.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

Why would his cloak have to be the exact same color?

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Nice job telling us he caught scum. BTW, mass claims are awkward without this kind of info.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

So your out is to say the mod is lying.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

Way to buddy up

[QuantumFruit]

Hah. How come they're bad?

I see some validity too them. Perhaps a bit too dogmatically stated and self-interested, I'm not really sure, but there are contradictions in roffman's posts that we should discuss.

[roffman]

@QF: The program was called CCcolor. Me and one of my friends wrote it as a major project in year 12. Basically it detects colors in the standard RGB format, displays them as 3 variables, and annouces the color through the microsoft office voice after reading from a comparison table that was pre-loaded into the program based off a full vision color pallete.

[QuantumFruit]

That's interesting. What made you decide to make it? I mean, I understand you're colorblind, but since it takes a lot of work, how often do you actually need something to decode colors for you?

[armlx]

Perhaps a bit too dogmatically stated and self-interested, I'm not really sure, but there are contradictions in roffman's posts that we should discuss.

You stated the problem. All of them work towards extracting Capricious from the scenario without us potentially lynching roffman and revealing him as telling the truth.

BTW, I'm willing to trust someone who is being attacked on fairly semantic issues over info on the scum as opposed to the accused. I know color blind people, and what roffman is saying seems fair.

Besides, if he's lying and fake claiming a genetic disorder to win an online game, w/e nice life. (No offense meant if you aren't roffman, I don't doubt you at all in that respect).

[somestrangeflea]

Due to the fact that my workload has increased to the point where playing mafia has become nigh-on impossible, I am officially getting out of all my games.

Mod: My sincerest apologies, but I will need to be replaced.

[windkirby]

Armlx-
You just have to understand that it seemed like a very convenient excuse. Besides, I still want to hear about alleged role. He has already told us enough about it to make him a target for the mafia - why is it that he can't give us anything further to make us believe what he's saying? The ways that he's described his roles just don't match up.

[armlx]

He has already told us enough about it to make him a target for the mafia - why is it that he can't give us anything further to make us believe what he's saying?

I will buy this error. Thank you for making a valid argument. Still voting Cap as he has yet to make one.

[armlx]

EBWODP: My last post was unclear. By I'll buy that error, I mean I see the flaw in roffman's story there.

[Capricious]

Capricious:

Your arguments are bad.

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Why would he reveal he had info about cloak colors pre-claim if people where already claiming? Lets just give the scum a heads up.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

Why would his cloak have to be the exact same color?

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Nice job telling us he caught scum. BTW, mass claims are awkward without this kind of info.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

So your out is to say the mod is lying.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

Way to buddy up

Your first point: Why would he reveal he had info about colors? He shouldn't. But that's not the point here, the point is that he was arguing that colors might be meaningless, when he could've shut up about the subject if he really had god info, and scum wouldn't be the wiser.

2: Why would his cloak have to be the same exact color? Possibly, just possibly because that's what roffman is claiming: ergo,

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

3: I was trying to look at it from his supposed perspective: he found a large number of scum through mass claiming, but dismisses mass claiming as counterproductive. That is odd. You were just trying to twist the situation.

4: I

am

out to say the mod might be lying, mods lie all the time
As demonstrated by the fact that:

Mod tells us we all have different colors
Some of us claim to have the same color.

Analysis will lead from the above two statements that the Mod or some of us are lying or misguided.

5: I feel roffman is town, because he has no reason to do what he did as scum. You call this buddying up. Nice try.


armlx:

retarded (politically correct terms, misguided) town?
scum?

That is the question.

[windkirby]

Mod tells us we all have different colors
Some of us claim to have the same color.

Observation: mightn't the scum be scared to reveal their color and therefore say it was that of another player? Don't leave out the fact that you were one of the ones who claimed to have the same color, Cap.

[armlx]

Cap:

His info wasn't so good till you all revealed colors. Or he could have been fighting it to stall out his color claim till later as he knew it was relevant.

He already explained the same color thing. Shows up as the same on his program.

Mass claiming is bad in a non-broken set up Cap. Apparently, this one is broken? What more do you want?

The mod lying thing still stands.

As for the buddying up, you are trying to get him to doubt his information by not attacking him for it.

As for the last comment.... ,

[xyzzy]

Due to the fact that my workload has increased to the point where playing mafia has become nigh-on impossible, I am officially getting out of all my games.

Mod: My sincerest apologies, but I will need to be replaced.

Searching for replacement.

[Capricious]

Could you also replace about five others?

[xyzzy]

If you wish for a specific player to receive a prod or warning of replacement, ask. I ust realized I totally neglected that in the rules, since I prefer the policy that it's the players' responsibilities to keep the game going.

A man walks up on the hill. "Hi everyone," he says, "I'm Chris!"

A voice bellows out: "THE POWER OF CHRIS COMPELS YOU"

Chris then quotes the following:

(08:48:14 PM) jdodge1019: you need to own up to your own issues damnit
(08:48:18 PM) jdodge1019:

ACCEPT IT

(08:48:19 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: B/c your ass got beat
(08:48:27 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: THATS WHY
(08:48:36 PM) jdodge1019: i was in the local paper once
(08:48:43 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: THE POWER OF CHRIS COMPELS YOU
(08:48:50 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: yes chris
(08:48:58 PM) jdodge1019: WHO IS CHRIS
(08:49:04 PM) jdodge1019: AND WHY DOES HIS POWER COMPEL ME
(08:49:12 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: NONE OF YOUR BUSSINESS
(08:49:17 PM) jdodge1019: OK
(08:49:26 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: now that thats settled
(08:49:28 PM) xyzzy: I used to always name my character Chris in Pokemon games
(08:49:40 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: how does it feel to have your ass beat, zzy?
(08:49:42 PM) xyzzy: But I stopped at Diamond
(08:49:49 PM) xyzzy: And named my character xyzzy
(08:49:52 PM) jdodge1019: you are a retard, and a character that is supposed to represent you was named chris
(08:49:54 PM) jdodge1019: thus i take it
(08:49:57 PM) jdodge1019: that chris is a retard
(08:50:01 PM) xyzzy: lol
(08:50:02 PM) Medicinal Oxygen: ha
(08:50:10 PM) jdodge1019: WHY IS THE POWER OF A RETARD SUPPOSE TO COMPEL ME
(08:50:11 PM) xyzzy: THE POWER OF CHRIS COMPELS YOU

Chris leaves, after using his pwoer to COMPEL YOU ALL.

[roffman]

compelled to do what, exactly, besides name all our pokemon characters xyzzy?

[Capricious]

Do you feel compelled to explain anything, roffman? namely, the numerous holes in your statements.

[windkirby]

What he said.

[windkirby]

Yoohoo, roffman... or anyone, for that matter...

[Capricious]

hi

[armlx]

So, about that paint. Its dry.

Come on people.

[windkirby]

I've had enough of this...

unvote, vote: roffman

And it's probably going to stay there until he specifies his role.

[xyzzy]

Do you want a deadline, people? Please post.