Open 56 - Masons and Monks (GAME OVER) before 542

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Pwayne

Because I can.

[Flameaxe]

unvote, vote: Oman

I forgot he was here.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Flameaxe

Did someone say... Bandwagon?

No. Wagoning Flameaxe with random votes is always an anti-town move.

[Flameaxe]

Or our gut.

[Flameaxe]

Good plan.

[Flameaxe]

You should know all too well, Kabenon.

But seriously, it looks like I'm taking Oman's side because there seems to be an odd wagon piling up on him. I can somewhat understand the Asshats being Asshats and jumping on him, but I think you're being opportunistic and using his self-Vote as an excuse to join the wagon.

Except Ouman is semi-asshat...(Note: Semi)

[Flameaxe]

Unvote, vote: thinktank

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe, why did you switch your vote for me?

And i find it hard to believe that three votes for the same person can be completely random because considering theres 11 other people besides yourself to vote for, 3 people picking the same person as their random has the probability of 1/(11x11x11), now comparing the likelyhood that atleast one of those votes is not random it seems perfectly logical to assume that atleast 1 of those votes is not random. Im not saying that it is is necessarily indicative of alignment, but you have to agree it is odd based on the probabilities considering that these are completely random votes as people have claimed..

I am following my esophagus.

[Flameaxe]

You can never have too much asshatery. Damn, that is fun to type!

[Flameaxe]

The asshattedness is annoying me.

Flameaxe, why do you insist on derailing this game?

How the fuck am I derailing anything?

[Flameaxe]

While all three of you have contributed to the asshaterization of this game, for my money, Flameaxe is the worst offender.

I demand proof, because omitting a joke post or two, I have done nothing of the sort.

[Flameaxe]

1 random vote,
1 "random" vote against Oman, just because he was here,
Unexplained vote against thinktank,
Questions regarding how you're derailing the game.

I never random vote. Ever. Votes that aren't serious, sure. The first two weren't serious, thinktank is. My posts regarding anatomy explained that vote, but you are too busy to leave them out to make your bullshit attack seem worthwhile.

Yes, it's so scummy that I'm trying to smoke out the scum. Way to go, captain logic.

Except your "case" is a total stretch, at best.

[Flameaxe]

I explained my vote, and you even mentioned it in your post! I've said plenty worthwhile.

[Flameaxe]

Kuribo is trying hard to find town therefore he is scummy because he is acting pro town. I understand you were trying to promote discussion but this point makes no sense at all.

That's not really what he was saying. He was pointing out that he thought that Kuribo seemed as if he was trying too hard to act in a pro-town way, which is commonly seen as a scummy thing.

[Flameaxe]

That's just it, it didn't explain anything

You asked me to explain my vote, and I already did. What else did you want me to explain about it? Also: post 53.

[Flameaxe]

It should have been obvious...since you know my vote was...post 54.

[Flameaxe]

I'm back live.

Unvote Vote Jdodge

This guy seems pretty newbie, and you jump on him for his fallacy rather than explaining it to him.

True, except this isn't a newbie game, and thus JD doesn't need to be that IC figure to help lead the way. A wiki link (such as there was) seemed like plenty of explanation to me.

[Flameaxe]

Ouman, you are voting for JDodge. JDodge didn't push the too townie arguement. JDodge said he hated Too Townie.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote: Vote: Ouman

Seriously man? Come on. This is stupid.

[Flameaxe]

There was no article (I didn't bother clicking it because I knew what it is). It works in theory, but is just not reliable to tell whether or not its just a townie really trying to be a townie, or scum.

I still don't think were going anywhere. We may be pushing on a rock but we need to push a little harder. I am completely lost in Jdodges and Omans argument. None of the points make either of them look scummy. Perhaps I should read it a few more times to see their points.

Plenty going on here. I suggest you do go over it, as there as been plenty of progress made in the last 3 pages.

[Flameaxe]

And what exactly are your opinions on Oman?

[Flameaxe]

Its actually more of a request, which funny enough, can have an answer.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote, vote: Thinktank

[Flameaxe]

Wha?

[Flameaxe]

@flameaxe. Why thinktank?

For being a hypocrite.

[Flameaxe]

Yes, but the thing is...it's not just you being a hypocrite, its what you are being hypocritical about. I'm gonna give someone else a chance to look over your posts to see if they find it too! It's like a game!

[Flameaxe]

Tyler, you are a liar. I have not once voted for JD.

[Flameaxe]

Well yeah....voting scum is how you win right?

[Flameaxe]

And I'm waiting for you to diescumdie. Plus, I already gave it.

[Flameaxe]

So I looked to find out exactly where thinktank is a hypocrite and I believe I found it.

Nope!

[Flameaxe]

MORE OMAN AND KABENON VOTES

I'll settle for Flameaxe and thinktank after that piss-poor distancing attempt, though

Don't be silly, thinktank is scum.

[Flameaxe]

MORE OMAN AND KABENON VOTES

I'll settle for Flameaxe and thinktank after that piss-poor distancing attempt, though

Don't be silly, thinktank is scum.

you still haven't presented a case against me Flameaxe. Once you do I will respond with the best of my ability. You've just left it open to interpretation. You haven't presented any arguments against me only supposed arguments, presenting your arguments is protown. Its antitown to just sit there and hope that someone will stumble across information. Debating with you is more frustrating than anything else because I don't even understand what it is we're arguing about.

It's anti-town being scum and all. We should kill him already.

[Flameaxe]

I'm starting to think you dont even have an argument because I've asked you numerous times what your argument is but you keep deferring. "We should kill him already". Based on What? You have given NO support for your argument that you think I am scum. I don't take your comments seriously any more because they don't hold any weight. They are a waste of space and I'm sorry that I've wasted these last few days considering what your posts are saying when they aren't really saying anything at all.

Stop being scum and/or alive.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxes voting without reason was interesting enough to not as well.

I had no reason now? Okay then. Assumptions are cool, and thinktank is scum.

[Flameaxe]

unvote, vote: kabenon

go wagon go

Wrong wagon.

[Flameaxe]

what is the right bandwagon then, Flameaxe?

Try reading, it helps a lot. Really.

[Flameaxe]

Why is thinktank STILL alive? You guys fucking suck at mafia.

[Flameaxe]

I'll pass on them. thinktank is a much better wagon.

[Flameaxe]

Except thinktank is still scum. People can't change roles in this game, therefore, he is still scum.

[Flameaxe]

Except thinktank is still scum. People can't change roles in this game, therefore, he is still scum.

WE GET THAT YOU ARE THINKTANK'S SCUMPARTNER

PLEASE BE PRODUCTIVE AND WAGON KABENON

KTHX

I don't follow you, sorry. I just vote scum and win, kthx?

[Flameaxe]

I'm not scum until day two, day one im a daycop. You know that JD...

[Flameaxe]

Except thinktank is still scum. People can't change roles in this game, therefore, he is still scum.

WE GET THAT YOU ARE THINKTANK'S SCUMPARTNER

PLEASE BE PRODUCTIVE AND WAGON KABENON

KTHX

Wow you are thick. You're no better than he is. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the two of you were partners.

Interesting.

I like your reaction. It's very "He's not my scumpartner. BUT YOU'LL NEVER KNOW!!!!".

sIGH,.....


kabenon007 bandwagon or oman bandwagon?

So hard to choose.

Unvote

Vote: thinktank

Because of JDodge's reply of this:

Interesting.
I like your reaction. It's very "He's not my scumpartner. BUT YOU'LL NEVER KNOW!!!!".

I think(tank) that that was a very good observation.

Good job JDodge!

This is insanity. You are voting me because I didn't outright deny that Flameaxe was my partner? I'm sorry I thought I made the point clear there was no way in hell that the two of us could be on a team. Jdodge, ignoring your thick as metal personality for a moment, I find it odd that you think me and him are the scum pair yet you vote for me, when flameaxe hasn't just been making false accusation the entire game with no backing up. If you think me and Flameaxe are partners you are sadly mistaken and have completely misread this game. Flameaxe has done nothing intelligent this game, he has only pointed fingers and debated at the level of a 7 year old.

LPowell: you are voting for me based on what dodge said? Are you really stating that his one blank observation is enough to convince you that 'm scum? If so you are either extremely flippant, which is scummy, or you're opportunistic, which is also scummy.

No, this is Patrick.

[Flameaxe]

I believe the line you're looking for is this madness, but still clever.

No. You are wrong, scum.

[Flameaxe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uny_cIRMVyA

Suck on that, scum.

[Flameaxe]

Except it doesn't. Watch it better.

[Flameaxe]

I agree entirely.

[Flameaxe]

I found scum, what more do you want?

[Flameaxe]

Revise my previous scumpairs: I'm now convinced of an Oman/kabenon pair mixed with a thinktank/LP pair.

Unvote, vote: LutenitPowwel

My vote is going to the largest wagon that is on scum.

What made you stop thinking it was tankaxe?

[Flameaxe]

It's actually Tankaxe, because me + the word think only comes around when I'm not in a lazy mood (which looking at MiSTX, I might be going back to that....)

[Flameaxe]

Jdodge, didn't you originally think that me and flameaxe were scum because apparently you thought our exchange was a distancing attempt? now you've revised your views and you think its LP and me? Based on your earlier given reason, why couldn't it have been flameaxe and LP?

The fact that your still pushing my wagon when your primary reason was my exchange with flameaxe is just evidence to support my earlier statement that you are the one distancing yourself from Flameaxe and you two are one of the scum pair.

Stop trying to draw attention away from yourself, scum.

[Flameaxe]

Why isn't thinktank dead yet. I have never seen something so obvious... Just to let you know though, flameaxe you clould have done a little better.

Vote:Thinktank

On what basis are you voting for me? What is it that is so obvious that clearly marks me as scum? Random accusations aren't going to get you anywhere unless you back them up.

On a side note, what are the odds that TylerJ and Flameaxe are the same person?

How the hell did you come to that conclusion? Jesus, you're dumb and scum (RHYME!)

[Flameaxe]

Because I'm clearly a daycop.

(Boom, out of scumchat we go!)

[Flameaxe]

@Oman: Damn right.

@KabKab: It really isn't funny.

[Flameaxe]

. . . Ur dum.

[Flameaxe]

Hence my unvote, and since he falsly claimed

Vote:flameaxe

Hey buddy, don't forget...this is

OPEN

56. Not my fault you can't read setups, or be able to tell of pretty serious sarcasm, when other people even comment on it in a joking way.

"Ur Dum" applies here.

[Flameaxe]

Hence my unvote, and since he falsly claimed

Vote:flameaxe

You are extremely thick.

Why is it that we have 12 players, 4 scum and only 10 people voting for them?

Because people are thick.

Or dumb.

[Flameaxe]

LP has done nothing AND has acted in a scummy manner.

Loads of sense in this one, cap'n.

[Flameaxe]

See how far that takes you.

How far is it to win? There's your answer.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Thinktank

[Flameaxe]

People who lynch at night, obviously.

[Flameaxe]

Prodded, nothing has changed, thinktank is still scum.

[Flameaxe]

It's hard to be an "idiot" when you peg scum, you know.

[Flameaxe]

But I caught you as scum. Clearly I can't be stupid for that. Lazy maybe.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe, regardless of whether you caught scum or not, you are being an idiot.

Unvote Vote Flameaxe

I have a feeling you're trying to do a meta-play.

Right...because this vote is completely justified. How about you stop "idiot-hunting". Last I checked this is still

mafia

scum, right?

Whether or not you are scum, you are being an idiot.

[Flameaxe]

And Flameaxe..hyporcrisy much?

Hyporcrisy isn't a word.

And no, it isn't. At all.

[Flameaxe]

i think he was just poking fun at thinktanks spelling error, farside. hypocrisy is a word but hypoRcrisy isn't.

Indeed.

[Flameaxe]

Secondly, Flameaxe is really getting on my nerves. If infact you find thinktank suspicious, TELL US WHY. Black and White, no beating around the bush.

I've already stated why in full detail why I'm voting thinktank.

[Flameaxe]

Following your esophagus

Context is cool you know.

[Flameaxe]

@pwayne66: Do you still think Tyler is scum. Do you think flameaxe was right to point out thinktank or is he being silly.

Undecided on both counts. Tyler's play is par for the course, but I refuse to dimiss him as a suspect just because he is always distracting and unsettling. Same thing for Flameaxe.

The only thing suspicous about Thinktank's play is that he has taken anything flameaxe has said seriously. This causes me to think that he is too sensitive.

I wouldn't expect you to give me a free pass, as I have done nothing to deserve it.

[Flameaxe]

Context Kuribo.

Still Flameaxe is more scum.

And you are still wrong.

[Flameaxe]

Context Kuribo.

Still Flameaxe is more scum.

And you are still wrong.

Gee, thanks for clearing that up. I was afraid for a second that you may be scum fro a second but clearly you've proven you're aren't.

No problem. Why am I scum to you exactly?

[Flameaxe]

I didn't say you were scum, I was merely pointing out your weak argument as to why you claim you are not scum.

I don't have an argument though.

[Flameaxe]

The sarcasm doesn't bother me, its the crappy level of play.

Would you mind actually laying out your case on me? Or are you just gonna sink down to my level of interest in the game.

[Flameaxe]

And what would that be?

[Flameaxe]

What in this game differs from my other play?

Are you being annoyed with countless questions yet?

[Flameaxe]

What in this game differs from my other play?

Are you being annoyed with countless questions yet?

[Flameaxe]

yes

No.

[Flameaxe]

[/phoenixwright]

[Flameaxe]

Did you honestly think the PMs weren't a joke? Really?

[Flameaxe]

The vote for you is because you are scum, observe flameaxe's argumetn.

Listen to the aussie, he's an aussie.

[Flameaxe]

FLAMEAXE POST WHY YOU THINK THINKTANK IS SCUM. MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE.

I ALREADY HAVE, STOP MAKING IT COMPLETELY OBVIOUS YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY READING THE THREAD.

[Flameaxe]

My job isn't to read the thread for you, buddy.

[Flameaxe]

Then I assume that you don't have an argument...

And I assume you aren't reading the thread or being helpful to the town.

[Flameaxe]

You're doing a poor job of defending your scumbuddy, for the record.

[Flameaxe]

You missed the logic: He stated that was sarcasm. This is also an open game.

I love how now you are the one telling everyone this. It gives me big lulz.

[Flameaxe]

I really don't know if anyone will get an answer out of Flameaxe. It seems he keeps saying the same thing over and over with no real answers.

No one will accept my answer and demand one that isn't there. That's not my wrongdoing.

[Flameaxe]

Vote Thinktank

[Flameaxe]

Thinktank: Still alive
You people: Fail.

Seriously? Lets be better.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe shutup! Im getting sick and tired of your stupid posts!

Oh snap.

[Flameaxe]

Thinktank.

[Flameaxe]

Wrong.

[Flameaxe]

So do you think flameaxe is scum or are you just saying his name?

Just saying his name. It seemed appropriate somehow. I thought that if he got the attention that he is so desperately seeking he might stop the whoring and start playing. I was wrong.

So why should I not think that your vote is a little OMGUSy?

Either way, I'll have more tomorrow.

I've been playing since I've been voting thinktank-scum. So basically since the beginning.

[Flameaxe]

Nothing has changed. Only problem is that tanky is still here.

[Flameaxe]

Funny enough, I don't say "kthxbai", so that statement is invalid. Except the vote. That was high quality "win".

[Flameaxe]

You're doing it wrong. Lighten up and bus your buddy!

[Flameaxe]

vote: farside

Rofl. I can see where you can draw that conclusion. Funny enough, it seems like a perfect fit. But I can assure you that you are totally off.

Right. I should totally follow your assumption, just based off your word. What was I thinking?

[Flameaxe]

But I'm right both times, so you're a bit off.

[Flameaxe]

Has think even brought a case against me?

I'll bring that up beginning of day 4, if I make it that long. Right now there's no point because that would only fork my effort, its no good chasing two scum at the same time when you can only lynch one. I have found far more evidence of Farside, hence I'm chasing that bird, but, Kabennon don't worry, you're case will come too in time.

You won't. Scum needs to die today, and you are a prime target.

[Flameaxe]

Tyler.

[Flameaxe]

Tyler.

Funny, before I even read this I was thinking "If thinktank turns out scum who is most likely to be his partner?". Instead of coming up with the obvious kabenon answer, I came up with flameaxe.

This makes a lot of sense.

[Flameaxe]

Tyler.

Funny, before I even read this I was thinking "If thinktank turns out scum who is most likely to be his partner?". Instead of coming up with the obvious kabenon answer, I came up with flameaxe.

This makes a lot of sense.

Your right, it does.

You're*

[Flameaxe]

flameaxe and kabonoon have my attention. Farside does to, but I think it would be safe to say that thinktank and farside weren't partners.

Right. You and tank were though.

Vote: Tyler

[Flameaxe]

Wait. I can't believe I just realized this, but town loses unless both scums crosskill tonight. Mhmm.

Unvote

[Flameaxe]

Just now realized this*

[Flameaxe]

Two scum remain, but at least they are separate teams, so they cannot coordinate their votes against the town, which is a plus for us. But I have bad news for us. Town cannot win this. It's just a battle between the scums now. Even if we lynch one today, the remaining scum will just kill off one townie and then endgame the other. What is the point in our helping at all anymore?

Actually, this isn't true. If scum cross-kill, the town wins. Only chance. If they kill same target, we have a second chance.

Vote: NL

. This is the ONLY chance. At all.

[Flameaxe]

Look at the last night. Yes it is.

If they kill the same (town) target, neither scum has a majority of the town (1/3 != 1/2), therefore another chance for a crosskill.

[Flameaxe]

Ha. At least no one won.