Mini 574: Portal Mafia: HUGE SUCCESS

[Flameaxe]

/confirm. Huge Success.

[Flameaxe]

Finally caved and bought a 360, Rock Band, and Orange Box today. Portal ROCKS!

Ewww orange box for 360 ewwwwwwwww.

[Flameaxe]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww

[Flameaxe]

I'm wearing jeans. You got the wrong guy, bud.

[Flameaxe]

Except it doesn't. I was in no way implying that you were "Mr. Fancy Pants", only proving that I wasn't.

My statement stands more.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Scotmany

I heard he's a homo.

[Flameaxe]

Lies.

[Flameaxe]

Ok, is that the fourth vote

already

on scotmany after only 33 posts?

Unvote, Vote: Flameaxe for being a sneaky 4th voter on the bandwagon.

Sorry for being sneaky. That wasn't my plan and all...I just wanted to vote him for being gay.

[Flameaxe]

Lies.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote, Vote: Your Worst Nightmare

, what's with all the screaming?

Re-check your Volume Control Device. No one is screaming here yet.

I don't think L-3 is a big deal at all. Heck, knowing Flameaxe, I'd EXPECT it. That guy revels in latter-half votes.

Exactly. I don't know Flameaxe. I don't know

any

of you. I am totally and completely un-biased. Hence, theoretically a better player.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UN-BIASED

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHA
AHAHAH
AHAHAH
AHAH
AHAH
AHA
AH

That was funny. Really.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote, Vote: Your Worst Nightmare

, what's with all the screaming?

Re-check your Volume Control Device. No one is screaming here yet.

I don't think L-3 is a big deal at all. Heck, knowing Flameaxe, I'd EXPECT it. That guy revels in latter-half votes.

Exactly. I don't know Flameaxe. I don't know

any

of you. I am totally and completely un-biased. Hence, theoretically a better player.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UN-BIASED

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHA
AHAHAH
AHAHAH
AHAH
AHAH
AHA
AH

That was funny. Really.

I laughed more about lack of metas making a better player. Also, joined in 2006 and 7 game posts? I'm calling alt here.

I feel fantastic about my vote.

That's kinda what I was hinting at...

[Flameaxe]

Still wearing jeans, Mr. Shorts.

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

[Flameaxe]

Cake is most delicious, thus I must

Vote: Sir Tornado

Voting because cake is delicious = Scummy.

[Flameaxe]

What's the thinking behind this pair of FoSes?

Pretty simple. M&M is the first guy to vote for a reason. And Flameaxe, he knows I hate him.
Add Gorrard and Your Worst Nightmare to the list.
Also, unvote. My random powers are wrong.

It's true. He hates me.

[Flameaxe]

What's the thinking behind this pair of FoSes?

Pretty simple. M&M is the first guy to vote for a reason. And Flameaxe, he knows I hate him.
Add Gorrard and Your Worst Nightmare to the list.
Also, unvote. My random powers are wrong.

It's true. He hates me.

You certainly have that affect on people.

Yup.

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

[Flameaxe]

Unvote

also.

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

But both posts had the same purpose. Time of posting has nothing to do with this.

[Flameaxe]

Tajo, did you really think you were alone?

[Flameaxe]

Non-game related comment = Reasons for a jokevote day one? Yeah.

You are helping my argument.

:arrow: Jokevote = not as much attention paid to post

And what do you call your joke post? Hypocrite.

My joke post was the first vote of the game. Yours was the 4th vote on the scotmany wagon. Are they the same? I think not.

But both posts had the same purpose. Time of posting has nothing to do with this.

The timing is the main reason that I found your "same purpose" joke post scummy.

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia

I think you are really pushing this fourth vote thing way to far. I didn't view it scummy at all; it was a random vote on a random wagon.

Once this game is over, you will be amazed at how so many supposedly "random" votes are not "random" at all.

Ok. You were the first to vote Sir Tornado in the first post of the game. You are obviously trying to push a quicklynch.

[Flameaxe]

Incognito, how do I read Flameaxe?

I'm looking for something very distinct with ze Flameaxe to me try to get a better grasp of whether I think he's scum or not. I'd rather not reveal exactly what it is just yet, but I think it helped me figure both him and Nocmen-scum out in Open 58 on page 4 of that thread. He's one of the more difficult players to read, but I'm trying to meta him to see if the tell is consistent across his other scum-games.

Why is your current avatar so bad?

I know. I hated it and was still at work so I couldn't switch back to my old one that's on my hard drive at home. It's changed now though. =)

You have a meta on me after one game? Do you consider that reliable?

[Flameaxe]

You have a meta on me after one game? Do you consider that reliable?

Easy there, Fancy Pants. I'm still in the research stage trying to determine if this tell goes across the board..

Still.
Wearing.
Jeans.

[Flameaxe]

Well, it's still day one, so yes.

[Flameaxe]

I think I fixed the VC.

Except new developments have surfaced since then.

Also, bumps thread.

One unvote has...whole lot of developments there.

[Flameaxe]

Metagaming is tech.

That is all.

[Flameaxe]

Machiavellian-Mafia's posting bothers me a bit; he's pushing the fourth-vote-is-scum-and-everything-now-is-purposeful thing too much. But I'll save some complaints until he gets back.

I think M-M is starting to overdo the 4th vote is scummy thing. I can see him using it as a way to kick things off even if I don't agree with it, but he hasn't talked about anything else. And again, unless there's any practical chance whatsoever of it leading to a speedlynch, I don't see how a 4th vote on a wagon made of random votes can be a danger.

Relative to everything else that had happened in the game at the time, and especially because there is a 14-day deadline, that 4th vote by flameaxe was what I found to be scummiest and thus I went after the hardest. Now on top of that, flameaxe continues to post mostly fluff and be unhelpful in scumhunting, so I still like my flameaxe vote.

My current positions on all players:

Flameaxe - Explained above, still like my vote

Your Worst Nightmare - Leaning slightly protown with adequate defenses against accusations

Sir Tornado - Neutral, insufficient posts to get a read

Patrick - Most protown, very helpful in scumhunting and thorough reasoning.

populartajo - Neutral, none of his posts stood out as scummy or protown

Gorrad – Suspicious, seemed like he tried extensively to twist YWN’s posts to make him an LAL lynch target.

FoS: Gorrad

Miztef – Protown, contributed sufficient analysis on game situations and scumhunting

The Jester - Neutral, insufficient posts to get a read

Akonas - Leaning slightly protown with helpful contributions in recent posts.

Incognito - Protown, contributed sufficient analysis on game situations and scumhunting

scotmany12 - Leaning slightly protown with some good reasoning in most recent posts.

Sorry for attempting to prove a point. I wasn't aware that was impossible.

[Flameaxe]

Limited access this weekend, St. Patty's day rush at work.

Will most likely catch up tomorrow.

[Flameaxe]

Hey. St. Pattys weekend is over, and my hellish weekend of no-fun is over. I should get a chance to catch up tomorrow, but then I'm going out of town on Wed.

Spring Break, woooooo.

[Flameaxe]

Alt?

Yeah.

[Flameaxe]

I know right?

[Flameaxe]

I am suspicious of everyone. After all, no one is confirmed.

[Flameaxe]

I'm afraid I do not hold the info to answer that, as I am conveniently...not scum. Why did you kill Patrick?

[Flameaxe]

You never denied not being scum, and you never denied having a kill. Good one buddy.

[Flameaxe]

Is that bad?

[Flameaxe]

V/LA much?

[Flameaxe]

Right, when you come back from a V/LA, what do you generally do?

[Flameaxe]

I am open to the possibility of a cult in this game, but I won't be obsessing over it until there is significant evidence of one (i.e. cultist lynched or killed).

And I like my Flameaxe vote more and more now after his interaction with Incognito. And officially Flameaxe + his alt Mike O'Malley posted 30 times in other threads since the start of Day 2 before posting in this one. Anyone who uses his metagame to his defense uses BS, since he obviously is taking advantage of his metagame so that he could be a non-contributor and only post when prompted.

I'm trying to defend myself with a meta-game? I'm trying to defend myself? I was V/LA all week, I just got back a few days ago. I can't catch up and make big posts for all of my games at once, that is very much impossible.

[Flameaxe]

That promise was made a day before I left town. This game isn't on the bottom of my priority list, but it isn't on the top either. My posts outside of this game have no connections with this game. Those games just needed a re-read after my vacation than this one, and some still do. The fact that Incog happened to call me out once I finally got around to this game is a complete coincidence.

[Flameaxe]

That promise was made a day before I left town. This game isn't on the bottom of my priority list, but it isn't on the top either. My posts outside of this game have no connections with this game. Those games just needed a re-read after my vacation than this one, and some still do. The fact that Incog happened to call me out once I finally got around to this game is a complete coincidence.

You know what else isn't top of that list? WEM Mafia.

I can confirm that he was on vacation, and not posting much due to that. Also, he's not a helpful person, but this level of unhelpfulness is starting to get really suspicious. Flameaxe, can you pretend to help like you usually do rather than doing nothing?

No. WEM is at the top. Just not the flavor. Keeping the game running is. Sorry I couldn't pretend to help while I was lurking on vacation, as that seems what V/LA has become.

[Flameaxe]

After I finish my re-read, I will give you one.

[Flameaxe]

Funny enough, I was V/LA last weekend. In addition to that, I went out of town during the past week.

Hey. St. Pattys weekend is over, and my hellish weekend of no-fun is over. I should get a chance to catch up tomorrow, but then

I'm going out of town on Wed.

Spring Break, woooooo.

Whole quotes, woooooo.

[Flameaxe]

Ok, I'm in three games with Flame right now. In all three, he has posted very little to absolutely nothing during the past week. So yeah, he hasn't been plenty active. I don't know where MM is getting this activity from.

If you search the posting history of flameaxe and his alt from
Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:08 pm EDT (Start of Day 2)
to
Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:39 pm EDT (His first post in this game on Day 2),
There were 30 posts.

What you are describing is not what a Gunsmith does so I now have problems with your claim.

:arrow: You doubt Gorrad's claim.
:arrow: Protown players would not fake claim.
:arrow: You think Gorrad might still be antitown alignment.
:arrow: I claimed result that confirmed Gorrad to be protown alignment.
:arrow: You must doubt my claim as well.
Is the final deduction, "you must doubt my claim", also your stance scotmany?

so wait, you are accusing me of lurking because I posted a lot in a span of a little over a day? Really?

[Flameaxe]

MM, how long posts are have nothing to do with contribution. Yes, I posted 30 times in one fucking day without posting in this game (and with 20 other games, it's really not as big of a deal as you make it out to be). One fucking day, I hardly consider that to be lurking honestly. I don't get around to all of my games in one day, for that day, it just happened to be this game. I posted when I did because it was the first time I had a chance to get around to this game (Gorrad needs his flavor posts and all).

I never promised a big post, I HAVE re-read, and I AM caught up.

Vote: M-M

The biggest thing you've done in this game is throw these bullshit cases up against me constantly.

[Flameaxe]

No haiku?

FoS: Guardian

Also, M-M, has a very good point. Flameaxe, he's a claimed power role with, I might add, a correct result. Don't vote him day two when there are plenty of other scummy folks.

Right, he claimed a power role that is a very easy fake-claim. I fail to see how that could affect my decision. I feel he is scummy, claim or no claim.

[Flameaxe]

I'd be voting Flameaxe except that would be lynch -1 and force a claim immediately, and I think there's time for discussion and a few things to talk about.

Funny enough, no it wouldn't.

[Flameaxe]

vote: Flameaxe

okay then.

Kay.

[Flameaxe]

Yes, when I'm not exhausted.

[Flameaxe]

=========[]

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe, claim please.

I'm a NK immune miller vig.

[Flameaxe]

Is that a serious claim?

That is up to you.

[Flameaxe]

Hooray! I win!

[Flameaxe]

Lies, if you were a Jester you' have self ====[]'d

But that is no fun.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe, claim please.

I'm a NK immune miller vig.

ROFLMAO

Thanks for the temporary comical relief, scum.

I try. Why Incog even questioned it is beyond me. There is only one true NK immune miller vig: Ouman.

[Flameaxe]

I understood the Oman reference, but I think you're scum anyway. Hence the hammah.

I'm actually neutral. Halfway isn't too bad I guess.