Open 674: Duck Duck Goose [Game Over]

[Rels]

I want more time. Fitz being lynched is like "I'm sad but you'll win tomorrow". OOO being lynched is like "I'll never play again" when Fitz is almost always the lynch tomorrow anyway so if he's right we win anyway. Makes me think OOO is the scum actually

[havingfitz]

UNVOTE: havingfitz

I think this is too late.

momo, OoO, KidAdm and you = lynch.

fwiw I never armed lol....not that I'd have needed it.

[Rels]

5 to vote. You were not hammered.

[momo]

So Ife we are not lynching havingfitz, do we want to go ooo. Ooo is most likely scum after this interaction. If not, well we get fitz tomorrow.

[havingfitz]

5 to vote. You were not hammered.

D'oh...I saw all the L-4s and had 4 on the brain.

Any questions for me Rels?

[momo]

Fitz. If you were a dayvig and could shoot anyone right now, who would it be.

[havingfitz]

Probably you since OoO and I are both likely to get lynched unless the game comes to an end first. You are a better fit for a vig kill.

[Rels]

5 to vote. You were not hammered.

D'oh...I saw all the L-4s and had 4 on the brain.

Any questions for me Rels?

not really. I'm debating if it's likely that you faked that reaaction when you thought you were hammered or not.
Like if you were scum, game is over right. So you wouldn't have posted that. So if you're scum, you knew for sure that you didn't get hammered but posted that to get townread. Seems complicated to me, especially given your low-stance this game.

[outoforder]

@ Tenshii :

like i cant discuss anything with you when you do this.
i hope you're town and we lose.
UNVOTE: Rels
VOTE: havingfitz

[havingfitz]

Not sure how to confirm a reaction.

Basically I checked in...saw you and KidAdm had voted me and scrolling up the page I saw the votecount with all the L-4s. So my lack of caffeine/sleep reaction was legit. And I thought OoO was voting me. I know what L-4 indicates but brainfarted it this morning.

[outoforder]

Come on there's a votecount on the same page that says "5 to lynch" of that Fitz post rofl.

[havingfitz]

Come on there's a votecount on the same page that says "5 to lynch" of that Fitz post rofl.

I'm awake now. What's your excuse for not knowing what you are doing?

So Rels, what's up?
UNVOTE: havingfitz

[havingfitz]

Come on there's a votecount on the same page that says "5 to lynch" of that Fitz post rofl.

I acknowledged the votecount already. And it's not like it blatantly states that requirement. Buried on 2 lines near end of post =/= as clear as "5 to lynch".

Votecount 3.4 - You stole my pagetop edition

[L-4] havingfitz - momo
[L-4] momo - KidAmn
[L-4] outoforder - Rels

Not voting: outoforder, BlackVoid, havingfitz, cassielle, Creature

With 8 alive, a majority vote is decided with 5 players.

Deadline: (expired on 2017-03-27 10:45:00)

It's a minor oversight on my part. Feel free to run with it.

[outoforder]

BV - regarding the dommfeathers read:

From post 50 to [quote="In post 64 it is quite clear to me he is either town who ACTUALLY wants to figure out what people's alignments are, or is either a good scum player since you'd have to have a very good understanding of the game to ask that specific questions and look like you're trying to figure out people's alignments. A bit later on i looked at his scum game and yeah, there is notable difference in his posting in that game in comparison to what it is here. Idk in the scum game of his it looks like he is... umm.. just idk what he is doing, i can't find any common thread in his posting in that game. In this game it's different, he picks a person he thinks is supicious -> questions -> reads what they write -> makes a conclusion, and it all adds up. In his scum game he picks a person who he wants to lynch -> asks something random and then wants to lynch again when the person is afk in the first place.

I had some doubts about him at the end of D1 since for the latter part of the day i couldn't remember anything he had posted (which is something that usually makes people scum - especially when the player's posting has been very town indicative earlier). During the night i went to read Hawk's filter again and i find it very very unlikely Hawk enters the game with a big case on his scumbuddy. That's also a strong indicator of doom being town, because if you - as mafia - call your scumbuddy mafia (with actual reasons like Hawk did), your reasoning must be good. Then you face a problem where good players figure your scumbuddy out. If you use bad reasoning (see - an example of this is Fitz - Hapa scumreads on both ways) you face a possibility of getting lynched for it. So yeah, it's extremely unlike that Hawk starts the game like that ESPECIALLY when replacing in to the game. Also after rereading doom's filter i understood the reason for why i got that feeling can be him having some problems irl as he replaced out.

Futhermore, as hapa has flipped there is this:

@Aubrey: Might not hapahauli have changed his behavior purposely after seeing it was going to get him nowhere as scum?

Why do you ever write this as mafia? Someone jsut let go of their scumread on your scumbuddy and you just what???? Give them more ammo?

[outoforder]

So Ife we are not lynching havingfitz, do we want to go ooo. Ooo is most likely scum after this interaction. If not, well we get fitz tomorrow.

Which interaction? You apparently haven't read the thread because i asked you some questions you didn't answer or note in any way but you are somehow aware of some interaction.
So elaborate:
- Who you would have shot if you were mafia?
- Why did mafia shoot Kop?
- What interaction you are talking about

You must understand that making plain comments about something that has happened in the game does not equal playing mafia. So please, explain what interaction you are talking about and what specifically doesn't make sense to you.

[outoforder]

What's your excuse for not knowing what you are doing?

I don't understand the question.

[outoforder]

@Fitz, okay I'll look over the games. Another question you might have missed: when I unvoted Aubrey D1 and voted Hawk, why did you switch to your weak townread Kop instead of going back to your scumread Hap? Hap had more votes at the time too.

[momo]

From my experience, if there is a VC on a certain page, it is hard to miss. Also, this fake twilight seems like fitz's last ditch attempt to save himself. I just read the twilight again and I just doubt that what was said actually happened.

VOTE: HavingfitzVOTE:

[momo]

I would shoot BlackVoid.

[outoforder]

Oh wrong quote. I meant to quote the psot where BV asks you to elaborate on what parts of his towncase on Hapa you did like.

[outoforder]

there are 2 more questions momo.

[outoforder]

I am gonna probably quit mafia again if i get lynched this game. When logic doesnt dictate a game of logical dedution its not a game for me anymore. Games were much better 3yrs ago. Idk whats with these new ppl, surely not logic...

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

meh

bad ending to a good game.
UNVOTE: outoforder
VOTE: havingfitz

Booo.. I've literally done the same thing before as mafia. The thing that doesn't change here is i am not lying like i wasn't back then. The difference is i am not mafia in this game. So if that's a reason to change your read on me your reasoning is terrible.

[momo]

I don't know why they shot Kop. I would not have. Seems like a bad idea......

[momo]

I went back on the third point didn't I???

[momo]

VOTE: Havingfitz