Open 674: Duck Duck Goose [Game Over]

[outoforder]

That was more of a frustration call which you can probably tell yourself if you read the rest of the page.

[Tenshii]

Votecount 3.4 - You stole my pagetop edition

[L-4] havingfitz - momo
[L-4] momo - KidAmn
[L-4] outoforder - Rels

Not voting: outoforder, BlackVoid, havingfitz, cassielle, Creature

With 8 alive, a majority vote is decided with 5 players.

Deadline: (expired on 2017-03-27 10:45:00)

[BlackVoid]

@Tenshii

- can you replace Momo? I think there's definitely a case where mods can choose to not count prod-dodges as posts and basically require game-advancing content in order to reset the prod/replace timer.

[outoforder]

I am voting for havingfitz.

[Tenshii]

momo has been prodded. momo has (expired on 2017-03-17 01:00:00) to post game-advancing content or has to risk being force-replaced.

I am voting for havingfitz.

I don't see it. Please quote it if I missed it.

[Rels]

Rels what is your reasoning for townreading fitz?

he made a case on Hapa early. That is literally it. I don't find his play townie, his defense of Hawk EOD1 was bad, Hawk never talked about him but call his lynch "a diversion" or something lîke that, he voted Aubrey but didn't vote Hapa when Aubrey was not happening ... that's why I was thinking it was Hapa / Fitz at some point D2. But his case on Hapa early D1 is a strong town indicator and you were too illogical to not be scum.

[Rels]

I am gonna probably quit mafia again if i get lynched this game. When logic doesnt dictate a game of logical dedution its not a game for me anymore. Games were much better 3yrs ago. Idk whats with these new ppl, surely not logic...

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

[Rels]

meh

[Rels]

bad ending to a good game.
UNVOTE: outoforder
VOTE: havingfitz

[Rels]

I don't think OOO ever types that as scum

[BlackVoid]

I was pretty much reading outoforder as town and your confidence in that scumread was the only thing holding me back from backing out entirely so this is good.

I think it's probably Fitz but I'm not entirely sure. It can't be Doom's slot. The way he tried to meta Fitz and came away with nothing is too strong a towntell to cement other stuff like his pre-replace out scumteam guess. It can't be KidAmn for that emotional outburst to Hap pushing him and staying on Hap throughout D1, and it can't be Creature. Your posts have been super town and you pushed Hap early D2 so I don't think it's you. It pretty much just leaves Fitz and Cass and I'm leaning towards it being Fitz.

[Rels]

Cass is conf town in my book. It's always Fitz or OOO for me. If not then there is something very wrong in my view of the game.

[Rels]

BV:

To those of you doubting Cass: starting with this post Hapa has a big attack on Cass. Pretty harsh posts to get people to scumread her. Hard posts to make as partners as scum, and Hapa is not a good scum.

[Rels]

I think these points at OOO being town too. OOO messing up BV and Hawk, who would be his partner if he was scum.

I dont think youre getting my point hawk.

Oh sorry as haek i meant BV.
BV who did you replace?

[BlackVoid]

If it's purely because of the end-of-day reaction, I've seen similar really good fake reactions from scum before. I find her posting on the whole to be unrelatable which is what is holding back (probably with a dose of unjustified paranoia because my only loss as town on this site so far was to a team containing two epic mafia players (Cloudkicker and MariaR) who did very well faking genuine reactions). I haven't forgotten that Cass called Hap 100% scum and then voted you. She was also on the Fitz wagon D2 instead of her super-strong scumread Hap and has for the most part been coasting after making a huge splash D1.

It's probably Fitz though. Hap seemed to have pretty much given up towards the end of D2 and I doubt he puts Fitz at L-1 the way he did and basically get lynched if Fitz was town. It seemed like there was an ulterior motive there. His early sheep onto Fitz after Aubrey voted him gave me bus-vibes. He did spend the end-of-D1 trying to convince outoforder to lynch Kop over Fitz though the reasoning he used is weird to defend a partner with ("Fitz backed off of me, therefore Fitz is town").

[BlackVoid]

Regarding Hap's attack on Cass: He backs off of Cass pretty quickly once you call her obvtown though and forgets about the push entirely later on.

[BlackVoid]

All Cass said about the events today was that scum were either you or outoforder. That's a pretty advantageous stance for scum to take.

[Rels]

if she faked her emotional posts EOD1 then she's a pretty scary scum

[BlackVoid]

I'm wary of stuff like that. Here's a recent game where a townie (Raskolnikov) got hammered in F5 with one scum alive (Cloudkicker) and he trolled and claimed scum. Scum had a pretty legit reaction. I'm sure I read a game where scum had the exact same reaction as Cass did somewhere.

[Rels]

yeah not saying it's impossible. I know I can do it as scum. But you gotta have a good scum game to do it. So I'll meta Cass when I have time

[KidAmn]

Momo has had literally 0 original thoughts this game. At this point PoE says Momo or Fitz, and since I'm not getting Momo

Vote Fitz

It is my understanding this is L-1. Claim.

[Rels]

Momo has had literally 0 original thoughts this game. At this point PoE says Momo or Fitz, and since I'm not getting Momo

Vote Fitz

It is my understanding this is L-1. Claim.

Claim what ? p:

[BlackVoid]

But on the whole, I think my feelings towards Cass are more paranoia than anything concrete. outoforder has won me over and now I think it's probably Fitz for the final scum.

[havingfitz]

Momo has had literally 0 original thoughts this game. At this point PoE says Momo or Fitz, and since I'm not getting Momo

Vote Fitz

It is my understanding this is L-1. Claim.

I think this is hammer.

Not a big fan of being first town lynched to lose a perfect town win.
I'd go for OoO tomorrow. Disappointed in the Rels and KidAdm rationales.
Bleh...

[Rels]

UNVOTE: havingfitz