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cassielle Mafia Scum
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i dont see a scum!momo world as very likely, yeah
ooo is a big possibility, he never pushed hapa hard enough
rels could be scum with hapa still, but possibility decreasing
kidamn also, but further decreased (hes either scum or paranoid town, but town is naturally paranoid so the odds are more in favor of town!him than it sounds)
p much no one els eis scum with hawk and hapa. one or the other, sure, both never
like, im pretty sure fitz is town now, scum!fitz doesnt push hapa like that in the early game unless hes on some insane WIFOM shit
bv is never scum
im town (obv)
creature is townie-ish (rather: hes not his usual town self but hes never scum with those flips)
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I thought they were nice cases. And Hapa did the same thing last game I've played with him: he was super lackluster during half of D1, then came back with a nice case on a player nobody really suspected. In that game I didn't immediately townread him after that, but in retrospect I should have. So I thought it was a repeat of that. Link to what I'm talking about:In post 1922, BlackVoid wrote:@Rels, the one thing stopping me from solidly townreading you is your reaction to Hap's cases on KidAmn, Fitz, and Kop D1. Can you explain what made you change your mind there?
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Okay thanks, I'll look it over when I get a bit more time later on. What do you think of outoforder and Hap's initial interaction D1? outoforder did start out launching a push on Hap which if he doesn't bus would be an outlier. He kept at it until he went V/LA. When he got back, he started on the Fitz push and never pushed Hap again though so that was weird.-
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its my experience that near-deadline switches onto a wagon that wasnt getting much traction before are very often mislynchesIn post 1924, BlackVoid wrote:Yeah, 1425 pinged me slightly when I read it but for different reasons. Telling Cass she was disruptive because she was pushing me before Hawk's flip feels manipulative given Cass wouldn't know that I had led a lynch on mafia and would just be arguing for what she thought was best.
and its my experience that scum can pull that crap on d1 especially easily because no one has hard evidence
so in general i prefer to agree on a lynch d1 at about midday and then continue to scumhunt. d2 lynches are much easier to agree on like that because theres no shade being thrown about that d1 wagon, but you get the same amount of AI discussion and a lot of work on theory and attempting to gamesolve
given my experience your wagon on hawk was the worst wagon possible: mere hours till deadline, not very many online, stonewalling the obvious lynch, begging people to put votes down on hawk
so it was insanely good play on your part to hit that, yeah, and that makes that sort of lynch hitting scum very possible. i dont ever assume insanely good play, i assume merely average or below. thats why i reacted that way-
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Something he could do. As you said he spent the rest of the day being undecided. And I remember him unvoting Hapa for a weird reason actually that you might be remembering wrong.In post 1928, BlackVoid wrote:Okay thanks, I'll look it over when I get a bit more time later on. What do you think of outoforder and Hap's initial interaction D1? outoforder did start out launching a push on Hap which if he doesn't bus would be an outlier. He kept at it until he went V/LA. When he got back, he started on the Fitz push and never pushed Hap again though so that was weird.
Yeah. That.In post 182, outoforder wrote:
Yes i had totally forgot about this. But when Rels brought up the game that ultimately brought me to this game i went back and read it again. That is true.As town, I just post and worry about the consequences later. It's not always going to be consistent on the surface, because a lot of it is feelz, and it often moves too fast for me to justify every little thing I do.
I am not entirely sure of you being town yet, but bugging you about something i feel like isn't gonna lead me anywhere is not productive rn. I mean if i continuously ask you for explanations you're not gonna be productive in case i am wrong. So please do your thing, we can discuss if you're scum or not later (for once, god bless two weeks dayphases:) ).
Althought he revoted him after I did:
OK yuo were right he then go into V/LA and unvoted Hapa after.In post 441, outoforder wrote:
I agree with this again.In post 432, Rels wrote:And Hapa is still the best lynch. Just because we are not talking about him doesn't erase that.
In fact i agree with it this much:
VOTE: HapahauliIn post 808, outoforder wrote:I am up to p27. Unfortunately the finnish wifi in trains is shit and i hought i would have a bit time yesterday despite hoing to visit friends outside my home country.
I am gonna finish catching up tonight and then gollow up on haps and i also got some questions for cassielle.
For now UNVOTE: hapahauliTL Mafia is best mafia-
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lol I also said that p:In post 1932, cassielle wrote:also interesting:
if ooo ends up red d3, it will be the third game on this site where only scum have said that my posts make no sense
3/4 is a good track record when it comes to choosing an early target, i might keep itTL Mafia is best mafia-
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nah you said the reasoning doesnt make sense, very differentIn post 1933, Rels wrote:
lol I also said that p:In post 1932, cassielle wrote:also interesting:
if ooo ends up red d3, it will be the third game on this site where only scum have said that my posts make no sense
3/4 is a good track record when it comes to choosing an early target, i might keep it
one says the content is flawed
the other says the presentation is flawed
scum are appearance-conscious by nature, arguably thatd be the source of the tell-
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thats /precisely/ why i use itIn post 1935, Rels wrote:TBH your style is effective at getting reaction.
i get good reads from people reacting to me. watching them react to each other is also instructive, but watching them react to me is far moreso. i can tailor a post to get a certain kind of reaction, and i can tell if theyre going off of gut, going off of considered thought, or going off of pre-existing knowledge given enough of that
ive been slow to really grill the hell out of slots this game though, so my reads are all over the fucking place
things for me to improve upon in the future-
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Bad. But HAPA coming back and trying to sway you into voting him makes them somewhat unlikely partners.In post 1938, BlackVoid wrote:Yeah, before you go, what's your read on Kop?TL Mafia is best mafia-
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Cause you didn't make 20 posts this game calling me scum rightIn post 1939, outoforder wrote:You're dumb Rels. After this game at least never try to claim you can read me. ^^TL Mafia is best mafia-
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That's very reasonable in case i am still right and havingfitz is mafia.In post 1943, Rels wrote:
Cause you didn't make 20 posts this game calling me scum rightIn post 1939, outoforder wrote:You're dumb Rels. After this game at least never try to claim you can read me. ^^-
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there is no way hapa/fitz is a teamIn post 1944, outoforder wrote:I must say i find it weird havingfitz treats me and hapa very differently when we both call him out for the same post of his.
fitz was one of the first people to seriously push hapa hard, he made a big damn case about it and all
if youre scum you could at least try distracting town by way of reality instead of ridiculous nonsense
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Votecount 2.7
[LYNCH] hapahauli - BlackVoid, Rels, Creature, havingfitz, KidAmn, Kop
[L-3] havingfitz - outoforder, momo, hapahauli
Not voting: cassielle
With 10 alive, a majority vote is decided with 6 players.
Deadline: Thread locked with ~8 days, 6 hours, and 30 minutes left in the day.
Spoiler: hapahauli Flip[/spoiler]Mafia Goon
Night 2 begins!
Night Deadline: (expired on 2017-03-12 17:35:00)-
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