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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:14 pm

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Adele wrote:Question 1) Isn't it entirely plausible that I was sincere in believing that the first subgame should be treated as an information collecting time - and, in fact, didn't I make my case for this prior to the events referred to above?
Question 2) How would I, subgame town, have even known who was in the subscum?
Question 3) Doesn't this theory assume that SomeStrangeSimenon or WaterboyWaldo is co-meta-scum with me, since it'd have to be one of the subscum and DGB's dead and innocent? - Seems to me that that's an assumption worth remembering for posterity.
3a) why did it fall to me to point out the above association, kab?
Answer 1) It is entirely plausible that you were sincere, but is it also equally plausible that you were not. 50 50 chance.
Answer 2) This one is harder to explain. I can't say for sure yet, but I could see it possible to set up scenarios with your metascum to somehow let the other metas know their alignment and such. Very far out there, I know, but I've seen weirdo breadcrumbs.
Answer 3)You ruined it for me! I was watching them carefully to see who reacted to what with you! This was more of what my plan hinged on, but no one has been posting too much... I was almost as concerned with checking out those two than I was with killing you! And that is also the answer to your bitchy :lol: question number 3a. Group hug?
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:18 am

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Answer 1 seems like a fallacy to me, similar to the odds of a single die rolling a six being 50-50 (either it is or it isn't), when really it's 1 in 6.

Answer 2 sounds like you're giving the metascum ideas or perhaps subtle instructions..?

Answer 3: I have no idea how you were expecting me to react or what I was supposed to be reacting to. Are you insinuating that I'm metascum with Adele? Because I don't think I am.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:49 am

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MBF wrote:Answer 1 seems like a fallacy to me, similar to the odds of a single die rolling a six being 50-50 (either it is or it isn't), when really it's 1 in 6.
Well, tell me how else it could be interpretted other than plausible or not?
MBF wrote:Answer 2 sounds like you're giving the metascum ideas or perhaps subtle instructions..?
Um, no, I'm answering her question... How else should I go about doing that?
MBF wrote:Answer 3: I have no idea how you were expecting me to react or what I was supposed to be reacting to. Are you insinuating that I'm metascum with Adele? Because I don't think I am.
Well, this in and of itself is a reaction. I had no idea which of you two would react, what said reaction would be. I was just watching. And of course you wouldn't think you were.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:55 am

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Well, if she was town then she would be sincere, so the chances of her being truthful are more than just 50/50.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:24 pm

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New Deadline: 1/7, 22:00 GMT.
I'm out of town Friday/Saturday, and I dislike having a deadline on a Sunday, so Monday it is. Sending everyone a prod now, even though most of you have posted now.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:25 pm

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Vote Count:
4 to lynch.

Adele: 1 (kabenon007)
mikeburnfire: 1 (SomeStrangeSimenon)
SomeStrangeSimenon: 1 (ryan)
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:08 am

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Unvote/Vote: mikeburnfire
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:19 am

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kabenon007 wrote:
MBF wrote:Answer 1 seems like a fallacy to me, similar to the odds of a single die rolling a six being 50-50 (either it is or it isn't), when really it's 1 in 6.
Well, tell me how else it could be interpretted other than plausible or not?
Good catch, MBF! I was thinking in terms of "he's acting like he's got something solid on me, but it's just a theory"; I wouldn't even have noticed that kab's opting to treat the two options as equal (which I don't think they are, especially considering the reasoning preceded the action) without justification and now, when asked for justification, he's suddenly flailing.

If he'd said that he, personally, thought the probabilities were equal, I'd let it go, but claiming that it's a dichotomy and
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:30 am

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Ryan, you seem to just be going with the flow, voting for whomever is in the spotlight.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:50 am

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mikeburnfire wrote:Ryan, you seem to just be going with the flow, voting for whomever is in the spotlight.
vote: Ryan
Fair enough
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:10 am

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ryan wrote:
mikeburnfire wrote:Ryan, you seem to just be going with the flow, voting for whomever is in the spotlight.
vote: Ryan
Fair enough
You agree?
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:17 am

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Hopefully
I'll be able to get back into the game now, though I don't know where to start, since I haven't been following :/

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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:19 am

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Adele wrote:
ryan wrote:
mikeburnfire wrote:Ryan, you seem to just be going with the flow, voting for whomever is in the spotlight.
vote: Ryan
Fair enough
You agree?
I believe he's in the spotlight for a reason, because he's scum and got caught.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:46 am

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Got caught doing WHAT, exactly? I'm in the spotlight because I said "Whoopie!" and some people thought it was scummy. There isn't anything conclusive about that, except that I'm a bit too exuberant.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:01 am

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If we aren't going to care about the subgame, we might as well spend all of our time here discussing the metagame.

In particular, who is going to be on your next concordelajtwe list?
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:31 am

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Not SA. I got good vibes from sammich. And not Adele either. Not yet at least. Maybe ryan.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:37 am

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Simenon wrote:If we aren't going to care about the subgame, we might as well spend all of our time here discussing the metagame.

In particular, who is going to be on your next concordelajtwe list?
Agreed, I am much more interested in the metagame (sorry mod)
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:09 am

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I don't have much of an idea on who I'm meta-voting here. IMO, it'd be a good idea to discuss
what to look for
, not just who to vote.
ryan wrote:
Simenon wrote:If we aren't going to care about the subgame, we might as well spend all of our time here discussing the metagame.

In particular, who is going to be on your next concordelajtwe list?
Agreed, I am much more interested in the metagame (sorry mod)
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:09 am

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The subgames are getting very little participation
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:12 am

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At this rate, I'm going to be lynched. Which is too bad, because I am a sub-townie.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:14 am

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I'm all about a scum bandwagon mike, who do you believe is scum? If you're not scum and I'm not scum who is it?
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:44 am

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Meta scum? Based on some loose logic and not just my gut, I'd say Xdaamno and you (ryan) would make a pretty good scumpair. So would Sarcastro and Adele. If I had to hazard a guess at the third scum, I'd say Simenon.

I've been thinking about something for awhile. Sarcastro. He hasn't been able to participate in any of the subgames because the submafia keep killing him. Which is odd, because when I was in the Game 1's Submafia, Simenon suggested killing Adele, Pooky, and Xdaamno, but Sarcastro, somebody we hadn't even talked about, ended up dead. I think the metamafia are choosing to sub-kill their meta-scum-partner Sarcastro. Afterall, if he can't talk, then nobody can find him suspicious, as proven by the fact that he was all over the board on the Condorcet voting phase. If I'm right, then both Adele and Simenon are meta-scum, and at least one of them is sub-scum. That's why I'm changing my mind and voting Simenon. I'm choosing him over Adele for no other reason than I've played with Adele before and enjoy her playstyle.

vote: Simenon
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:53 am

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Actually, Adele already has a vote on her.

unvote, vote Simenon
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:54 am

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Let's try that again.

unvote, vote Adele
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:05 pm

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Deadline:
Approximately 22 hours from this post.

Vote Count:
4 to lynch.

Adele: 2 (kabenon007, mikeburnfire)
mikeburnfire: 2 (ryan, SomeStrangeSimenon)

Mod Note:
Due to the low participation and general apathy toward this game, I am considering pulling the plug and calling this a failed experiment. If anyone has input on this, please PM me. Unless/until I do close the game, assume that we are still playing, and try to pick up participation accordingly.
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