~laundry~ FIN

[Zachstralkita]

n0 guilty peek Creature


VOTE: Creature

[Zachstralkita]

Also Hinamizawa is town from Higurashi (When they cry) anime where the people in it alternate between sane and crazy

The only thing that must be noted here is to play the VN. The anime is remarkably shit compared to it and does it no justice at all.

I havent seen the Umineko anime, but the VN is probably way better.

Also, why's no one sheeping my guilty? Dicks. You deserve a sock win

Creature is head sock

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Head sock is taken to mean leader of the sock coalition, not a godfather-esque sock.

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VOTE: drealmerz7


rule 3: anyone who asks the mod if scum has daychat is scum

and they have daychat

[Zachstralkita]

the standard laws of experimental physics do not apply to you, MariaR.

[Zachstralkita]

Please join me on this wagon, Sonia-chan ~

[Zachstralkita]

I'm toasty

[Zachstralkita]

Negative sir, it's a confirmed scum confirmation according to the drealmerz manual. I've already got the greenlight from HQ. This wagon is a go.

[Zachstralkita]

you're the one that's going to be nipped, d realmerz seven.

[Zachstralkita]

Wait so u guys real life real talk got SAD to L-1?

Why not abandon that silly goose chase and join a real wagon, like drealmerz' one.


(Endorsed by MariaR)

[Zachstralkita]

Wait so u guys real life real talk got SAD to L-1?

Why not abandon that silly goose chase and join a real wagon, like drealmerz' one.


(Endorsed by MariaR)

You had me till Maria endorsed

She has stellar judgement. You should take notes.

[Zachstralkita]

All I said was you should take notes.

This is precisely

why

you should take notes, so you have the notes so you won't have to take them next time.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: drealmerz7


rule 3: anyone who asks the mod if scum has daychat is scum

and they have daychat

Who's in your neighborhood?

Not in one.

Also I'm taking your scum read on drealmer as a joke. Is it not?

Definitely not. It's a great wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach is super scummy btw post 617.

You'll have to elaborate, my friend.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach is super scummy btw post 617.

You'll have to elaborate, my friend.

Oh the side defense on me it was something Spiffeh (scum) did in DEFCON when I was being wagoned on Day 2 and he was halfheartedly defending the wagon saying it was bad etc.

You just have a lot to gain from it and very little to lose knowing I'll flip town. Also it's extremely similar to Spiffeh because you're not actively trying to stop the wagon just sitting there saying that you think it's bad.

I said it was a bad wagon because I believe you're town, not because I'd get towncred for it. I haven't defended you because I haven't bothered to try and dissuade these people from their cases.

I suspect if I did, though, you'd call me scummy for WKing you, or something like that. Sounds like something you would probably say. Lot to gain. Little to lose.

I haven't seen the play in question, but however similar my play is to it is superficial. You're making conclusions that have no real bearing on stuff.


With my low effort play today, I doubt I'd grab towncred tomorrow after your flip. If I was scum and I wanted to gain towncred here, I'd probably try to act like I gave half of a fuck about what people have sa-.. oh.... wait.. this is just going to be dismissed as WIFOM.

I'll sheep that Zach point

VOTE: Zach

Really bad vote.

[Zachstralkita]

Fire, need you to defend your note pad real quick.

[Zachstralkita]

I did, but you spilled vodka all over them. I had to start over.

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VOTE: drealmerz7


rule 3: anyone who asks the mod if scum has daychat is scum

and they have daychat

Who's in your neighborhood?

Not in one.

Also I'm taking your scum read on drealmer as a joke. Is it not?

Definitely not. It's a great wagon.

Then why did you assume day chat for scum?

Can you talk about that scum read then?

Well I mean it's a reasonable assumption tbh. You think the socks don't talk to each other when they're in the hamper? Huh? DO YOU?\

That's what the name of the private topic probably is fucking HAMPER



And drealmerz is a pretty good guy I was just at a christmas party with him we got loaded as fuck. But I can tell when his posting style of sentences with lots of lowercase letters - and -- dashes and-- INDIVIDUAL capitalized WORDS and "q"uotes -- are being -- FAKED.

So not much in the way of "evidence", but this is one of those game-winning plays I'm making here. Except no one has faith in me. Except Maria, and maybe note taker Fire. I mean it's understandable, I don't expect people to just trust me. I also don't expect Towns to mislynch every day 1 but you know......

Really bad vote.

Cool

Im waiting til u inevitably move your vote to vote you, so you can't say it's OMGUS.

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Im waiting til u inevitably move your vote to vote you, so you can't say it's OMGUS.

Both town and scum OMGUS.

So I'd hardly use that as a reason against you.

Better that than sheeping the guy you were trying to lynch a few pages ago LMAO without even expanding onto his point

[Zachstralkita]

Give me three names

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No 3 of who the scumz r, and your answers cannot include Ser Arthur Dayne

[Zachstralkita]

Gotcha buddy

VOTE: Fro99er

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SAD, could you go into detail on your progression on me?

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Maria, why do you hold a town read on me?

[Zachstralkita]

Maria, why do you hold a town read on me?

Reasons.

It's okay you can tell me

I heard if you put it in a spoiler other people can't read it

[Zachstralkita]

drealmerz please get back to me with 3 names at your latest convenience


I will wait centuries.

days, even.

[Zachstralkita]

Nosferatu is town, tho.

[Zachstralkita]

Hmm, I should probably be putting in this effort to case Fro99er.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm thinking a SAD vote is justified, but let's have this discussion first.

I'm fine with a mass flavor claim.

I just cannot talk about one part of mine, period. You're going to have to believe me on this or bad things will happen to this towel.

Well for starters, maybe tell me the cause for this post? Cause I don't believe there was a towny reason to say this at all.

[Zachstralkita]

*deploys dayvig beacon*

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Also, side note, am I the only one who mentally reads "Fro99er" as "Fro-niner-niner?"

I was considering typing his name like that, but now I can't do it. Thanks Nos.

[Zachstralkita]

happy born day maria

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gerryoat, any non desp scumreads? you two are tvt.

[Zachstralkita]

gerryoat, any non desp scumreads? you two are tvt.

why am i town, first of all. Then explain why he is town

Cause your attitude with him is like how you were vs twoface in space mafia.


You can see his case is bad but you can't see why it doesn't come from scum. You've just jumped to the worst case scenario.


He's town because his actions have indeed seemed genuine and his reasons for scumreading you seem like they come from someone who's not familiar with your play style.



Not that I'm familiar with your playstyle.

[Zachstralkita]

If I was town

got em boys. book em

library book em boys

[Zachstralkita]

Tammy, I don't know if that's necessarily a scum tell. I think you're reading his reaction to the vote wrong. That's arrogant town lol

[Zachstralkita]

The lurker squad is pretty solid actually, shouldn't look for scum there.

[Zachstralkita]

Firebringer is possible scumz.

[Zachstralkita]

Okay, I don't know what a god damned puppy pile is. I'm not going to attempt to find out.

[Zachstralkita]

SAD claim flavor

[Zachstralkita]

He picked the wrong guy to gambit on. This is going to waste a lot of time and d7 is town.




Also, Froninetyniner after knowing the guilty is fake, maintains a scumread because of one flimsy thing that has some merit at best. Because of how drealmerz is acting tho it will be easy to paint him as scum. He doesn't even care about the supposed scum motivation behind drealmerz actions, just that he seemingly contradicted himself.

Must lynch

[Zachstralkita]

LYNCH ALL LIARS

Though I will not be following this policy because it is shit

[Zachstralkita]

Well yeah you did, but it's the strength of the scumread and what it's founded on that's important.


If you think he's throwing a hissy fit you haven't played with him before LMAO people telling him to chill out doesn't do anything I've tried


Also he wasn't rolefishing

[Zachstralkita]

poor, poor drealmerz. no worries d when you come over today I'll place you in a foxhole with Christmas lights and some DMT

Zach you should vote fire with me

I would love to help you bus

[Zachstralkita]

You're a very good assessor

[Zachstralkita]

but i thought you thought i was scum.
if i am scum then i already know ur town.

That just means that you passed the assessment by default.

[Zachstralkita]

Okay, I have drealmer as town.

VOTE: gerryoat

You should be ashamed.

[Zachstralkita]

I dunno, your primary use of lowercase letters this game has given me the wrong vibe.

I can attach an ambiguous motive to your early play.

[Zachstralkita]

gerry ill throw you in a fuckin sleeper hold and feed you nyquil hows that for pockets

[Zachstralkita]

Just kidding pal, nyquil tastes bad.

[Zachstralkita]

KAIN TEPES

I deadass had this in the preview box then decided to leave

[Zachstralkita]

talk to him firebringer

[Zachstralkita]

Gerry really isn't scum tho I'm mad u wrote 8 volumes of info just to vote a ML LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

Im not, I know how to spot MLs

[Zachstralkita]

Plus you're letting a lot of people slide on that wagon

[Zachstralkita]

My aim is to draw attention to it


Meanwhile yours is...

[Zachstralkita]

I believe it's "..."

[Zachstralkita]

Andrius, you've cased a player with little content and suppose the burden is on me to defend him. No, it's on you to make a sensible case. Your reasons are very low effort for the amount of volume you post.

[Zachstralkita]

Surprised firebringers wagon is as large as it is lol, I would put him more as a compromise lynch than a major one

[Zachstralkita]

I'll probably pick someone from the Nos and Gerry wagons

[Zachstralkita]

I've played with scum Nos and rolled scum with Nos before, I feel comfortable in saying he's very town here

[Zachstralkita]

Man you switched that read on a dime

[Zachstralkita]

When did I say I was down for his lynch

[Zachstralkita]

UNVOTE: Fro99er

I've been on a bad vote.

[Zachstralkita]

Yea lets rock

VOTE: Andrius

[Zachstralkita]

Man you [Fro99er] switched that read on a dime

UNVOTE: Fro99er

I've been on a bad vote.

What changed your mind so quickly?

That's indicative of my town game

[Zachstralkita]

She can post gifs if she wants lol chill

[Zachstralkita]

Don't suggest it's fake please? I'm not sure if that's what you're doing but it seems we have more people upset than need be

[Zachstralkita]

christ don't tell me I have to start putting effort in to stop this ml

[Zachstralkita]

*revs up rotary gears*

[Zachstralkita]

Grr... u could have just linked space mafia and called it a day

[Zachstralkita]

i havent read the past 10 pages

Scum never read until they have to.

thats a lie im town and ive skimmed like inferior milk

[Zachstralkita]

Looks like you're conf biasing

[Zachstralkita]

Something about gerry he gone off that molly.

[Zachstralkita]

Sly sly do you always do that scummy as shit snip a post and cut off the context to try to make something look scummy?

Cuz holes shit this sketch as fuck.

SlySly is very scummy for this I believe, and his response to it consisted of deflecting.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: SlySly

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah, I'm thinking it's Toog, Zach, Pine and Tammy.

How hard did you think on that one

[Zachstralkita]

I have been game solving, attempting to stop obvious lynchbait MLs contributes to town wincon

[Zachstralkita]

Skybird - on Maria ... really she's part of a subset of the site that I designate EMK (and no, I'm not sharing what it stands for as it is just an internal designation for me) that prioritize "having fun" and "playing with people they like" as the most important parts of the game. I personally have a distaste for that sort of approach.

Magna wrote this in the now-over THE THING and I find it highly relevant here.
My first thought was ZACK this game because I have some history with Maria (<3) and FB (Deplorables) but I Zack seems only interested in talking with his in-group and defending his townreads (in-group members?). I don't know if gerryoak qualifies and frankly, I don't care enough to find out. But this just complicates the matter in that he might be town doing his thing which may or may not be finding scum like the rest of us and actually trying to advance the plot of the game, so to speak. Thus it makes things difficult given my tendency is to just go SCUM DEFENDING PEOPLE HE KNOWS WILL FLIP TOWN AND NOT ACTUALLY SCUMHUNTING.

Not true, I talk to anyone that interacts with me

Also I'm comfy lynching here he made the easiest case ever lol

[Zachstralkita]

But I was town to you before Maria and I was doing the same thing I'm doing now

Also.

VOTE: Andrius

[Zachstralkita]

I guess you could say I was a lemon bar for the past few days

[Zachstralkita]

Will help d7

VOTE: SlySly

[Zachstralkita]

That is wagon on lynchbait

[Zachstralkita]

actually I am not getting lynchbait feels from gerry this game

he could very likely be scum

but then so could you, zach, soooo

here I come, desp

UNVOTE: slysly
VOTE: gerryoat

Woooooow ur lame

[Zachstralkita]

That is wagon on lynchbait

i mean i guess lynchbait and scummy are hard to decipher

Gerry is def not lynch bait wagon feel.

What are you going to say tomorrow when I'm right *insert generic comment about it being gerrys fault*

He claimed pr too but you are still comfortable throwing rationality to the wind

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Andrius

Your days are numbered, SlySly


That number is like, 1

[Zachstralkita]

My default assumption is that town does not resort to low effort lynches on a player they can't case without stretching things one way or another on a 116 page Day 1 where content is rampant

A wagon switch in 2 days is more than capable of happening in this game although you'll notice I haven't said anything about Creature's lynch

[Zachstralkita]

U guys suck

[Zachstralkita]

Guys.

Creature wouldn't be this hard to lynch if he were Town. It would be a total no-brainer to justify lynching Town!Creature. We're not seeing any significant resistance, we're seeing interest elsewhere sans commitment. That says scum to me. I want to hunt off the Creature wagon when he flips scum.

But but but

Zach is in the corner feeling himself over the thought of any lynch flipping town. You really think that the lynch that is this hard to drive near deadline even though creature has done nothing townie might hit scum if Zach says it's town??????

Based on gerryoats tone and interactions I believe he is town


Never mind the fact that I did this once and you incorporate it as a main point of your case on me


I suggest you guys fuck off to another lynch

U guys suck

don't worry
I won't let them kill you

today

Join the wagon if you want you flintstone vitamin motherfucker

[Zachstralkita]

Seriously you guys are ass

[Zachstralkita]

What are you going to say tomorrow when I'm right *insert generic comment about it being gerrys fault*

i mean, it is gerry's fault

he's the one playing in a scum motivated way

you seem to think like you should get some credit if he flips town but newsflash: 75% of the playerlist is town. it's really easy to go around and call everyone who looks scummy lynchbait, more likely than not you'll be correct

Your points don't become good points if you take one thing I've done and generalize everything about it

[Zachstralkita]

Not angry lmao

[Zachstralkita]

None of those are malicious. drealmerz is my pal I can call him a flintstone vitamin motherfucker If Inwant.

[Zachstralkita]

You left slysly when I needed you


Look what you did

[Zachstralkita]

Someone on my wagon pull a case not out of your ass and I'll sit down and tell you why it's bullshit. Assume, in my scum games, that I place "staying alive on Day 1" as a priority, or at least a priority on Day 1.



Dreal I'm on Andrius help me out

[Zachstralkita]

Funny how my objective is assumed to be getting towncred rather than stopping a stupid lynch

[Zachstralkita]

I don't know why I'm so scared to be honest I'm never this defensive I think it's mostly because I want to have one game where I feel really strong huh strange
VOTE: Zach

You changed your read on me when I was doing the exact same thing I was before

@SlySly top notch. But I actually wanted a real one.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't know why I'm so scared to be honest I'm never this defensive I think it's mostly because I want to have one game where I feel really strong huh strange
VOTE: Zach

You changed your read on me when I was doing the exact same thing I was before

@SlySly top notch. But I actually wanted a real one.

You've said this twice

And you did not answer it once.

[Zachstralkita]

Which statement is false?

[Zachstralkita]

You say that without telling me what I'm doing different to make that statement not true.

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You say that without telling me what I'm doing different to make that statement not true.

You saying the statement in itself is a scumtell going into detail on why is something I don't feel like doing.

oh so this is just dumb then

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Okay if Desp is town Pine is scum no way 2 scummy players buddy this obv and are this bad

Pine + Zachhhh? + ???
Pedit: B u l l s h i t

I didn't know I would have this type of fight... it's hard to respond to what isn't explained

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Zach is super scummy btw post 617.

You'll have to elaborate, my friend.

Oh the side defense on me it was something Spiffeh (scum) did in DEFCON when I was being wagoned on Day 2 and he was halfheartedly defending the wagon saying it was bad etc.

You just have a lot to gain from it and very little to lose knowing I'll flip town. Also it's extremely similar to Spiffeh because you're not actively trying to stop the wagon just sitting there saying that you think it's bad.

Who do you want lynched then I don't remember you having any scumreads Zach.

Who do you want lynched then I don't remember you having any scumreads Zach.

I'll probably pick someone from the Nos and Gerry wagons

I've played with scum Nos and rolled scum with Nos before, I feel comfortable in saying he's very town here

The hell is this.

Zach I'm starting to have doubts on you get a grib.

Guys.

Creature wouldn't be this hard to lynch if he were Town. It would be a total no-brainer to justify lynching Town!Creature. We're not seeing any significant resistance, we're seeing interest elsewhere sans commitment. That says scum to me. I want to hunt off the Creature wagon when he flips scum.

But but but

Zach is in the corner feeling himself over the thought of any lynch flipping town. You really think that the lynch that is this hard to drive near deadline even though creature has done nothing townie might hit scum if Zach says it's town??????

These points fail to comprise a case on me considering I responded to most all of them, at least the first 3. The third can be addressed in my comment to Desp, because you guys are basically doing the same thing.

. Quotes alone don't hold a lot of weight, especially if you omit relevant things and add nothing on.

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Why speculate on his role?

Even worse if you scumread him "I don't believe his role but this is probably what it is"

[Zachstralkita]

The only information received was whatever was presented to you

Maybe it was vague for a reason

[Zachstralkita]

And that was moreso directed at Tammy

[Zachstralkita]

And that was moreso directed at Tammy

My understanding of the role and what I believe exists doesn't exist in the setup helps me understand his alignment/the alignment of the other party he's claiming is 99% but not confirmed, and the game. If he's claiming something incongruous with my understanding of the game then there's a problem, now I need to figure out if he's scum with a fake claim, town with what role and does he understand/is he mistaking misunderstanding his role, and if not that says something about the setup, which helps understanding.

It's really not that difficult. I do not let vague roles that claim someone may or may not be confirmed town go unexamined, no town member that actually cares about their woncondition should.

You don't have the information he (supposedly) does. Of course your understanding of the game state does not align.

When you press that boundary attempting to find said information when it's not entirely necessary based on how little is known of the setup, scum benefits first. On day 1, let alone. You could have left it until tomorrow at the very least.

Also, you guys are misunderstanding. I believe his position is that his claim was irrelevant to the wagon on him and he did it for a reason outside of that.

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And that was moreso directed at Tammy

My understanding of the role and what I believe exists doesn't exist in the setup helps me understand his alignment/the alignment of the other party he's claiming is 99% but not confirmed, and the game. If he's claiming something incongruous with my understanding of the game then there's a problem, now I need to figure out if he's scum with a fake claim, town with what role and does he understand/is he mistaking misunderstanding his role, and if not that says something about the setup, which helps understanding.

It's really not that difficult. I do not let vague roles that claim someone may or may not be confirmed town go unexamined, no town member that actually cares about their woncondition should.

You don't have the information he (supposedly) does. Of course your understanding of the game state does not align.

When you press that boundary attempting to find said information when it's not entirely necessary based on how little is known of the setup, scum benefits first. On day 1, let alone. You could have left it until tomorrow at the very least.

Also, you guys are misunderstanding. I believe his position is that his claim was irrelevant to the wagon on him and he did it for a reason outside of that.

Of course I don't know what his role does he won't explain it.

And the primary purpose of this is to limit your understanding of the game? Not scum's?

Andrius is still scum, btw.

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Also, you guys are misunderstanding. I believe his position is that his claim was irrelevant to the wagon on him and he did it for a reason outside of that.

congrats on being one of the few smart ones here. i hope you're maf so i can say all the towns were bad

Nope I'm town. Help lynch Andrius if you're not there yet

I believe Creatures claim FYI



Also IDK why people are so hyped about Gerrys claim lmao. Like you look for things to get pissed about

[Zachstralkita]

I did not spend most of this day halfway trying to stop your lynch for you to be cool with it.

[Zachstralkita]

Lmao u guys are just lynching him just because you dislike him


He didn't even full claim with pressure. It's not scum thinking they can get lucky and evade the lynch, it's town telling you to go fuck yourselves

[Zachstralkita]

dreal you've let everyone down

[Zachstralkita]

You will know about it

[Zachstralkita]

Zachstralkita is town

[Zachstralkita]

We can speed wagon andrius or sly

[Zachstralkita]

dreal has already been confirmed to not be able to read me. he scumread me when i was mechanically cleared PR in another game. so his words are useless here

this is one of those drealmerz reads that he's super confident about but also super wrong

it happens on occasion

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: SlySly

I said this a while ago

[Zachstralkita]

Gerry has no scum motivation to do such things

[Zachstralkita]

its all been abused as a substitute for gerry giving any real reads

or doing anything

or ever getting nightkilled

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

which alignment does all of that stuff benefit again?

He can't play like that with scum intentions and actually expect to live

Don't be silly

[Zachstralkita]

The reason to vote for sly sly is not because he fake scumslipped

It's because he's scum

[Zachstralkita]

Pines town prolly

[Zachstralkita]

Couldn't he just fake the result if he were scum


Like give a different name

You wouldn't be able to tell really

[Zachstralkita]

This plan sucks balls

Pendulous, swinging, heavy, Sasquatch balls

It does tbh



And why is slysly a bad lynch everyone? When pressed he literally quoted the mod thing to cite his innocence. town wouldn't even need to do that lmao

[Zachstralkita]

U guys are grudge lynching him tho whatever If you go back to that wagon I'm not gonna say anything

[Zachstralkita]

just so you know, there is 1 maf that's hard defending me. It could be zach, but idk. he has seen me play like this before as town.

Maria is mafia 100% she would know i'm town if she was town.

Creature/Sly is prob one maf since the vote was split so well. I think Creature.

Nacho is maf also.

I dont see anyone else hard defending you

And I'm not mafia

[Zachstralkita]

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

But you're doing the same thing lynching him because of that -- It's not town to counter something anti-town with something also anti-town just so you can be even


I haven't seen anyone solidly identify the scum motivation behind his initial claim. I mean, someone tried. Like, he "claims PR" when his wagon builds pressure. Then he doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live. Fast forward to now. He still doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live.



??


WHAT???

Where is the sense in this train of thought? Where is the self-preservation? Every instance he could have used to save face and maybe live by getting on your good side, he tells you to fuck yourselves. There's no one defending him. I'm defending him. I'm not going to be able to not get him killed.

If gerry is scum he did like 12 grams of coke in pregame and somehow never came down and for that I applaud him

Tammy and I are the Washing Machines. You don't see us yelling, "Good luck doing your laundry without the Washing Machines," even though we know we are destined for death.

SlySly pretty much did this...

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I suppose it's assumed that I gain something from defending gerry, but I don't. I would just rather lynch scum. drealmerz was right when he said shorter days were better.

He's only acting like that because he wants to spite you guys

So what makes you think he's actually going to help us out later?
He's going to continue doing his own thing and there are zero indications he will play with the town's well-being in mind.

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.




My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

I haven't seen anyone solidly identify the scum motivation behind his initial claim. I mean, someone tried. Like, he "claims PR" when his wagon builds pressure. Then he doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live. Fast forward to now. He still doesn't hardclaim. And expects to live.

He claimed vaguely confirmable town role when his wagon had pressure mounting. The scum motivation behind this should be obvious; if it doesn't let me know. The point where he should have hardclaimed was after his additional crumbs, which ended up falling in place in a way that doesn't make sense (do you think that his role makes so much as a tiny bit of sense?); the reason why he doesn't counterclaim here and instead goes "fuck you you're all terrible" is because he has nothing to claim. If he was really disappointed about getting lynched today, then he would have claimed long ago; if this situation was solved as simply as "he claims his role", then I'm sure it would have been solved by now.

As long as you're accepting that it's really dumb and stupid scum play on his part, yeah.

I think he would at least attempt to think.

[Zachstralkita]

imo you have to assume his incompetence to a certain degree for the scum motivation to be there

[Zachstralkita]

I'd rather not prolong this day I've pretty much said all I can either now or before

so either speedlynch someone else or continue if I'm not changing anything

[Zachstralkita]

Then that sounds like a policy lynch and not a I want to kill scum lynch, which is the favored lynch day 1.My answer is that clearly the following days aren't going to be like today in regard to gerry. I don't see him playing the way he has today.

Nah, I still think the chances of him being scum hiding behind this and the bevvy of players being all HIS ATTITUDE MAKES HIM TOWN are decent.

WHO ARE ALL THESE PLAYERS

WHO ARE THEY

NAME THEM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER

[Zachstralkita]

hey I'm not a good vig target..

[Zachstralkita]

hey I'm not a good vig target..

I'm getting tired of hearing this.

You should start picking better vig targets then

[Zachstralkita]

No I'm just going to get frustrated and shoot you regardless.

Why would you do such a not town thing?

[Zachstralkita]

My dear fellow I hope the implication which you have implied is not that, I , could possibly be of the scum alignment?

[Zachstralkita]

oh no fro99er died!

[Zachstralkita]

Come on guys pushing gerry is

so

D1

[Zachstralkita]

Why do I have a vote on me



Also Pine..: is a TR for me

[Zachstralkita]

Hello Zach.

Have you gained any scumreads over the course of like the entire game.

Yea Need to catch up tho

[Zachstralkita]

Hello Zach.

Have you gained any scumreads over the course of like the entire game.

Yea Need to catch up tho

Who are you scumreading...?

Sly McMenno Andrius



Ehhhh maybe Maria for putting in no effort to read my slot

[Zachstralkita]

I wish I can remember Zach by more than just "the guy who hardcore defended Gerry"

For real get reads man.

I been had reads I just don't vomit them out of my mouth



Stop voting me you dummies

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: SlySly

[Zachstralkita]

And yes I am aware only one additional vote has been placed on me

It's really ass coming from Maria tho especially when she never explained her read on me at all this game (even when she townread me)

[Zachstralkita]

The "explaining" part is what's relevant

[Zachstralkita]

You know I don't play scum like this

[Zachstralkita]

You know I don't play scum like this

aaaaaaaaaa I don't see you saying this as scum fuck my life
VOTE: Mc

You've displayed some good judgement keep it up

[Zachstralkita]

I decline to comment

[Zachstralkita]

I'm disappointed

[Zachstralkita]

SlyScum tho

[Zachstralkita]

Town

d7 , mason pair, sad, Pine, Nos, gerryoat

Null atm

Fire , Maria, Nacho

Scum

Andrius McMenno Sly


I suppose the mason pair could potentially be scum

[Zachstralkita]

Sly is my top contender rn

[Zachstralkita]

Where is your vote then?

[Zachstralkita]

No silly vote sly



And hit this gravity bong

[Zachstralkita]

Unvote
Vote: Zachstralkita

Im not scum guy

[Zachstralkita]

What a piss poor wagon

[Zachstralkita]

Actually the fact that desp thinks both of those wagons are scum driven is hilarious

[Zachstralkita]

Oh look. The same people who were the core of the Creature wagon are again the core of the Nacho wagon, getting just as ignored and ridiculed.

HMMMM

You make a good point. I'm feeling town vibes from 3/4 of that wagon. I'm feeling pretty good about Desp and Andrius too.

Read: I feel good about the people on the same wagon that I am

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Actually the fact that desp thinks both of those wagons are scum driven is hilarious

as hilarious as thinking two of the scum are both on you?

it might be three but you excluded me from your reads list so it's hard to tell what your read on me is

So I'm scum and two scum are on me? Genius.

[Zachstralkita]

Unvote
Vote: Zachstralkita

[Zachstralkita]

Unvote
Vote: Zachstralkita

you think andrius and sly are scum

they are both voting you

you caught up now?

oh i see what you're doing

yep, that's nowhere near as hilarious as what you said

[Zachstralkita]

No one in my wagon has any real reason to be voting me

[Zachstralkita]

You look and smell like scum. AND the biggest thing I remember you doing is ^ bullshit which is vote and lynch worthy all by itself!

Christ, I'm glad you're not a homicide detective or something.

[Zachstralkita]

I agree that the entire scum team wasnt lined up on creature but that doesn't make Sly scum and I have at least two maybe three people off the creature wagon that I would rather lynch than him. Maria, Zach, nos...

Ouch who still scumreads Nos in 2017 haha

[Zachstralkita]

dude

it's "zach"

yeah the fucking Ks really GRIND MY GEARS


Its okay I can always take solace in the fact that IM NOT GETTING LYNCHED LMFAOOOOO

[Zachstralkita]

Like Andrius' reasoning for me is 70% of what SAD said on Day 1

[Zachstralkita]

Like Andrius' reasoning for me is 70% of what SAD said on Day 1

You act like this is good reason to dismiss it.

It's good enough for me


YesterDay Andrius quoted what should have been several reasons to vote me but never quoted where I responded to most or all of them, instead implying that they fully had merit and I did nothing to respond to them. I don't think he gives a shit about solving.

[Zachstralkita]

Wow Maria really stepping it up here

[Zachstralkita]

Is there anything to your Pine scumread I am missing besides "reminds me of previous game"

[Zachstralkita]

What the fuck is this Zach wagon. Stop being useless.

Tell them again

[Zachstralkita]

Also the wagon is 3 people large...

Something about Zach freaking out with every vote on him and Pine "stop pilling on a wagon that won't happen because I randomly said so and that is probably maybe idk on town I guess?" when Zach isn't even one of the top 2 wagons feels off.

im not freaking out


im trying to shine a light on people voting town

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think you know what freaking out means... and because you don't, you've given Andrius a crutch. Organically it would have taken him like 3 years to create a presentable reason to scumread me.

[Zachstralkita]

Yes, I read those posts too. I also read them when I made them.

That's not what freaking out is.

[Zachstralkita]

That theory assumes that, as scum, I'm incompetent enough to draw attention after relatively little pressure where there is no need for it. And also, to be engaged relatively little in producing hard content and expect that to

not

draw attention.



Oh well. As long as it makes sense to you.

[Zachstralkita]

nacho if you feel like you do you should replace. No disrespect tho

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Actually I need most of you motherfuckers on this Sly wagon to rehash your reasons cause far as I recall that was the NO NO wagon day one when dreal and I were pushing it

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pedit: Oh look, Zach is calling a wagon town again. What a surprise.

I am the main one pushing this wagon.

I PUSHED this fucking wagon YESTERDAY.

HOWEVER I am attempting to sort through the people on this wagon who have done about as much as jack shit to accompany their vote on Sly in terms of reasoning.


You're either blatantly discrediting me as scum or you're acting really fucking stupid.

[Zachstralkita]

Dw my man NACHO I believe in you to come back in this game.

Pedit: I didn't say that... wow misrepping me like this why you do this.

I fucked up the quote mb

[Zachstralkita]

Actually I take back my Zach town-lean.

For what reason(s)

You've done this like 3 times now which is fine just say why concisely.

[Zachstralkita]

n0 guilty peek Creature


VOTE: Creature

I raise.

That theory assumes that, as scum, I'm incompetent enough to draw attention after relatively little pressure where there is no need for it. And also, to be engaged relatively little in producing hard content and expect that to

not

draw attention.



Oh well. As long as it makes sense to you.

And yet. This is what scum do quite often.

There has been absolutely no reason to read you as town. If you're town, start doing town things.

So if there's been no reason to read me as town why do people town read me?


Why is the only reasonable scum case on me the lack of "town" things, which is a moot point anyway?

[Zachstralkita]

YesterDay Andrius quoted what should have been several reasons to vote me but never quoted where I responded to most or all of them, instead implying that they fully had merit and I did nothing to respond to them. I don't think he gives a shit about solving.

That's a sliver of it.

However little it may seem I don't think it should be ignored because of the false pretenses.

[Zachstralkita]

Also he's taken like every chance he can get to scumread me today just riding off of what he originally stated, which was never really a good case to begin with.







Tammy told me I should start doing town things, what then, does lynching who I believe to be scum fall under?

[Zachstralkita]

You asked me for my read on him which is why I responded to you with such..

I'm lynching Sly right now... who pinged me hard yesterday

[Zachstralkita]

So I post reactionary.. well everyone just hold your fucking horses.. call the Coast Guard and the DOT and fucking PETA.. it's a major situation...

oops!
why did Sly ping you?
what are your Pine and McMenno reads?

Pinetown

Mcmennoscum

Sly sly do you always do that scummy as shit snip a post and cut off the context to try to make something look scummy?

Cuz holes shit this sketch as fuck.

SlySly is very scummy for this I believe, and his response to it consisted of deflecting.

See above and read the next page. Tammy had genuine reason to press him on it and Sly's response is more deflecting than need be, and #1806 just reeks.

Actually I need most of you motherfuckers on this Sly wagon to rehash your reasons cause far as I recall that was the NO NO wagon day one when dreal and I were pushing it

You asked me for my read on him which is why I responded to you with such..

I'm lynching Sly right now... who pinged me hard yesterday

Huh?

You seem to be confused on my intentions. Refer to my post in response to Andrius

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Like, the volume of this game, the amount of stuff and the amount of players who are considered [good] or [more than good] means if you're looking for a lynch on me, you either


1) have no desire to solve

2) have no idea how to read between the lines

3) want to lynch me because you don't like the way I post

4) think the way I post or my lack of content aids scum and is reason enough for lynch, when in reality lynching me is more antitown so this point is voided

5) are scum

6) I only post when I'm being pushed? Were that true I should have like 4 posts Day 1.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm well aware my wagon is not a major one, that doesn't mean I can't say anything about it. Especially when 2 of my scumreads are on it.

[Zachstralkita]

you're only alive when you're being pushed

Again, explain Day 1 then.

[Zachstralkita]

Is there anything to your Pine scumread I am missing besides "reminds me of previous game"

Please respond Maria ty

[Zachstralkita]

Which is why I said " I am missing " because I clearly missed it but I will go and fetch whatever it is you said

[Zachstralkita]

Okay if Desp is town Pine is scum no way 2 scummy players buddy this obv and are this bad

Pine + Zachhhh? + ???
Pedit: B u l l s h i t

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Pine is still scum maybe with gerry if he's telling the truth but I don't think he is and just ants to reaction test me he wouldn't try to guilty me as mafia cause he knows he prob doesn't need to take me out and just pocket me but...

You wanna go into detail on this Gerry you punk?

[Zachstralkita]

Pine: My role is super legit and awesome let's not vote me cause it's like rad af

Is that why you

Hate

him? haha. hah.

[Zachstralkita]

You know damn well you liked that pun

[Zachstralkita]

zach what do you think of the pine related points that I've brought up?

I'll try to give a response when I consider everything. I believe I've only seen townPine once and that was a really fucking short game. (NY 198? RB solved the whole thing in like 4 minutes)

The rest of my encounters have been scumPine. I'm biased and I don't want to factor it in.

[Zachstralkita]

zach what do you think of the pine related points that I've brought up?

I'll try to give a response when I consider everything. I believe I've only seen townPine once and that was a really fucking short game. (NY 198? RB solved the whole thing in like 4 minutes)

The rest of my encounters have been scumPine. I'm biased and I don't want to factor it in.

I say that because the things you have said regarding his "I never bus thing" make me lean toward agreeing with you because of said experience, but I need to look at the entire Pine situation again.

[Zachstralkita]

but as far as i can recall he was straight-shooting to me day one. Maybe I wasn't paying a lot of attention, but I didn't have a scumread there.

[Zachstralkita]

but as far as i can recall he was straight-shooting to me day one. Maybe I wasn't paying a lot of attention, but I didn't have a scumread there.

please give me more than that and in return i'll give your scumreads heavy consideration

Unvoting temporarily cause IDK if I'm tryna do that at this exact moment but I WILL do exactly that I just need the day to not end soon.

UNVOTE:


And on cue, we'll have Andrius saying I'm scum in 5...

[Zachstralkita]

EBWOP:

1. Quotes Tammy's response to me quoting her where I caused a context change in my edit, but ignores (to fit his agenda) my next post where I immediately stood up and acknowledged what I had done wrong.

So what exactly warranted you doubt casting her if all she did was point out something that you, yourself, acknowledged that you did wrong? You didn't just "acknowledge" that, you jumped into defense mode.


You're not on scum, unfortunately I am probably the towniest person existing in this game.

[Zachstralkita]

To be fair Nacho I see your point about Pine's reads being weak but I believe scumPine would try to be more actively manipulative because that's what he does. I haven't seen a whole lot of that today.

And Maria's scumread on him has done nothing for me. I'm not sure if there's substance to it.

[Zachstralkita]

Also why attempt to dismiss multiball when no harm can come from discussing it? You motherfuckers act like you know the setup.

[Zachstralkita]

Yooo where's dream to call this scum theater I need a laugh right now

I can do this

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Sly