Micro 680: Matrix6 No Reveal (Game Over!?)

[EchoVision]

Hey friends! I'm Echo and I like pizza!

VOTE: Alisae
you smelly little shit

[EchoVision]

Hey friends! I'm Echo and I like pizza!

VOTE: Alisae
you smelly little shit

Do you like pineapple pizza

Y/N

nah just a cheese and pepperoni guy

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Incorrect choice buck-o I'm afraid

papa John's, pizza Hut, or domino's?

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I know this is random voting stage but if I had to pick scum right now it would be Shannon. I think she is trying too hard to act casual and talk about things that don't have anything to do with this game. Contrast that to Transcend, who asks about pineapple pizza (delicious!) but in a jokey kind of way that doesn't look like he is trying to convince us that he is harmless.

I think Echo is rude and shouldn't have said that to Alisae. Hopefully they are friends and this is kind-hearted banter.

VOTE: Shannon

yeah we're friends off of site, it's all good

whenever i'm in a game with him i rvs him for that reason

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UNVOTE:

Actually nvm

21 looks a bit like over analyzation

VOTE: the hamster

retweet

VOTE: The Hamster Guy With a Cute Ass Picture

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yeah we're friends off of site, it's all good

whenever i'm in a game with him i rvs him for that reason

A. I'm offended you racist
B. You should make some new friends on here as well.
C. Whatever floats your bote.

how am i supposed to do that when i'm buddying the shit out of you

obvious sarcasm is obvious

plus the only other name on here i know is penguinpower and that's cause he modded my last newbie game. didn't realize he was in here till about 49 seconds ago though so oh well

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Spoiler:

yeah we're friends off of site, it's all good

whenever i'm in a game with him i rvs him for that reason

A. I'm offended you racist
B. You should make some new friends on here as well.
C. Whatever floats your bote.

how am i supposed to do that when i'm buddying the shit out of you

obvious sarcasm is obvious

plus the only other name on here i know is penguinpower and that's cause he modded my last newbie game. didn't realize he was in here till about 49 seconds ago though so oh well

Duplicate post so spoilered #YourLovelyMod

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idk how the hell that posted twice. sorry for i have sinned

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UNVOTE:

Actually nvm

21 looks a bit like over analyzation

VOTE: the hamster

retweet

VOTE: The Hamster Guy With a Cute Ass Picture

My answer is Domino's.

oh i saw that's why i'm choosing not to talk to you you sinner <3

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alisae why aren't you spamming posts i thought that's what you normally do? or is that just in larges

THIS MAN HAD LIKE 300 POSTS IN DAY 1 OF OUR ONE GAME

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idk i thought it was just your thing...

COMPLETELY off topic but i'm getting a new phone soon cause my phone is busted should i get galaxy s7 or iphone 7 thx <3

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Wat...I don't see what's wrong...I'm just agreeing with the fact that I post a lot...

twas a joke cause you said playing with yourself hehe

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alisae why aren't you spamming posts i thought that's what you normally do? or is that just in larges

THIS MAN HAD LIKE 300 POSTS IN DAY 1 OF OUR ONE GAME

What was his alignment? And were they content spam or offtopic spam?
What relevance does it have to this game??

idk i thought it was just your thing...

COMPLETELY off topic but i'm getting a new phone soon cause my phone is busted should i get galaxy s7 or iphone 7 thx <3

Obviously Galaxy s7.
I'm probably getting one very soon myself actually!

However,
VOTE: Echo
for promoting spam.

game isn't over yet so idk. was more off topic spam and idk was just weird that he wasn't spamming the shit out of everything like usual

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don't mind the quotes, I had the multiquoted for some reason from like an hour ago.

Either way you're asking me to take the content out of context, like from the person who's writing it.
Is it sus? Yes.
Could it be coming from town? Yes.
Could it be coming from scum? Yes.

I don't see why that post is coming from scum.

pedit the quotes were just a mistake.

seems like you're counter claiming yourself...

"could it be coming from scum? yes"
"I don't see why its coming from scum"

pedit: thought it was like meta and stuff from those games... didn't think that something as little as a post count really mattered. sorry though!

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seems like you're counter claiming yourself...

"could it be coming from scum? yes"
"I don't see why its coming from scum"

That's why I asked for clarification.

wait Ali was the first part about taking it out of context then the second part about the over analytical post?

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hey penguin where ya at?

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Why do you care?

cause he's my fucking scum buddy obviously...

sorry, is it a scum tell to ask why someone hasn't posted?

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what was your reasoning behind that post? I just don't understand what it's supposed to accomplish...

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Why do you care?

cause he's my fucking scum buddy obviously...

sorry, is it a scum tell to ask why someone hasn't posted?

Actually possible. I've seen exactly this before.

Usually only when scum don't have Daytalk tho.

are you saying that scum have day talk?

if you are, whered you get that idea from?

pedit: never mind mod confirmed they don't. thought you scum slipped a lil bit there

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what was your reasoning behind that post? I just don't understand what it's supposed to accomplish...

Cuz I'm asking you why do you care if someone has or hasn't shown up yet.

because activity is a good thing... it's hard to find alignment if the person hasn't posted...

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Also another thing that concerns me is that Echo was more worried about PP and not Dont_Vote_me

that was just cause he hasn't confirmed yet so Im assuming he didn't even know the game started. penguin however confirmed with his role so he knew the game was starting soon.

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I just don't think this is alisae's town game...

VOTE: Alisae

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I just don't think this is alisae's town game...

VOTE: Alisae

Because I'm being quiet...
You're just trying to find a reason to jump on me.

other reasons too but I'm not allowed to bring those up so I'll keep them to myself for now

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I just don't think this is alisae's town game...

VOTE: Alisae

What did karnos coach you on in the scum PT? It's cool...you can tell me. I won't say anything to anyone.

no pt silly rabbit

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what was your reasoning behind that post? I just don't understand what it's supposed to accomplish...

Cuz I'm asking you why do you care if someone has or hasn't shown up yet.

because activity is a good thing... it's hard to find alignment if the person hasn't posted...

But...I have posted...A lot...

this post wasn't for you this was me defending myself about when you came after me for asking about penguin

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VOTE: shannon

Scum determined via careful statistical analysis.

WAIT A MINUTE. PENGUIN POWER SCUMREAD KARNOS FOR THIS ONE POST?

VOTE: PenguinPower

Ah. Someone doesn't know the Law of Inverse Alignment.

i don't. teach me the ways please

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Actually fuck the PP lynch, that's scummy that they're pushing Karnos off of one post but what's even more scummy is Echo's attempt at a reach.
Echo have you even read any of my completed games?

No, and I don't really care to.

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The Law of Inverse Alignment states that if PenguinPower is town, then karnos is scum. Thusly, if karnos is town, then PenguinPower is scum.

This has only ever been disproven twice on this site, and very recently. But - I can usually read karnos well given we both come from the same HS.

I don't understand how this works... What says that it's Karnos and PP that are involved in this law?

[EchoVision]

1. page top

2. so what's preventing me from stating the law with dont_vote_me??

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Actually fuck the PP lynch, that's scummy that they're pushing Karnos off of one post but what's even more scummy is Echo's attempt at a reach.
Echo have you even read any of my completed games?

No, and I don't really care to.

Then you can't judge what my town or scumgame looks like because you aren't bothering to do the #research behind it (I never rolled scum in my completed games anyways)
VOTE: EchoVision

well I know your town game and I bet my left ass cheek that this isn't it

[EchoVision]

I know we aren't very far into this game, but you're not actually scum hunting. Originally what I said was just meant to be a reaction test because I've learned shit as I've gained more experience, and it worked. You're not actually scum hunting (like I said before). Your vote on me has no reasoning that doesn't relate to my vote on you. You only have 1 vote on you that didn't have shit for evidence against it, and you're already playing too defensively. You're reaching on every single reason you have against me because you don't want me up your ass about this. I was pulling shit out of my ass before but I guess I'm right. this is NOT your town game.

I'm not taking my vote off of you until one of us dies

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Or I'm just very overeactive.
And I have been scumhunting. So saying I'm not is misrepping me.

I know you off of site and you're not an over reactive person. and other stuff I can't say but oh well again I'll say it eventually

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Oh, now I see. It's just penguin being penguin. He thinks we can't both be town.

It's possibly true, but that would make him scum if so.

My thoughts on Echo are that he needs to fix his avatar. Other than that it seems like there is an echo/alisae thing going that isn't much different from the karnos/penguin thing. Going to follow his read for now.

VOTE: alisae Could it be alisae/hamster scumteam?

i know i need to update my avatar

but resizing it is so much wooooooork q.q

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nah i can do it. I will later, just have to decide which one to do

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I'm sorry I haven't posted in a while. Transcend said I never answered his question, but I went back and looked and couldn't find one. I don't like how Alisae said Shannon was Mafia for scum reading karnos off one vote, but that Echo's "reach" was worse? How is what Echo did worse? Alisae why did you claim when nobody made intent to hammer you? Shannon seems to think Alisae is scum because she doesn't think I'm new and Alisae thinks I am. Is that right, because that makes no sense. The only way I can work that out is that you think Alisae is scum trying to defend me so that if she is ever lynched people will think I'm her buddy and come after me next. Also I'm not a "he". At least the moderator got it right.

Yeah I don't think you're a new player lmao

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Also I wanna point out how Echo just vanished.
It's really sus.

I don't see how me having Internet issues with my computer and visual issues with my phone is sus but oh well

nice reach

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here's the hammer

VOTE: Alisae

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ay btd6 where ya at?

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Oh now you notice him lmao.
Yeah he hard lurks.

what do you mean now I notice him? I saw him post but he hasn't posted in a while so I'm asking where he is... scum read me for it

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I didn't scumread you for noticing BTD...
That's a pretty defensive response imo.
I'm saying he can get easily mslynched because of it.

the scum read me for it part was a joke cause you've been reaching for any possible reason to scum read me

[EchoVision]

just tell your buddy to nk me then

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karnos hammer if you scum read the slot lol

edit: so what tell him now

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just be like ay buddy kill Echo tonight thanks

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okay fuck this nobody is hammering

dayvig: Alisae

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I'm not actually a dayvig get pranked kiddo

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but I will use my one shot desperado here

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Echo just killed a VT.
He should REALLY get policy lynched D2.

I was going to unvote you because I liked your reaction but then I reread it...

If I'm outed as a dayvig, which means I m of a town alignment, why would I be a lynch target??? why wouldn't your scum buddy be a lynch target?...

Also we wouldn't know if you were VT or not until the games over so I doubt a lynch would even go through...

[EchoVision]

"Vigilantes are considered Normal on mafiascum.net if their kill flavour is indistinguishable from other factions'. As of 9 November 2015, they must also be town aligned."

from the wiki

[EchoVision]

I kindly ask that you'd not tr me for dumb reasons

Thx

I'm scum reading you cause you said you liked dominoes best

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You wanna know what else is normal?
Flips.
We don't have those.

also what do flips have anything to do with the fact that vigs are almost always town?

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pizza Hut duh and page top woohoo sorry frozen I stole it from you

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you knew which is why you flipped out calling for my policy lynch when I fake dayvig'd you

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also, obviously I'm not a dayvig after I told you straight up that it was a prank and for even more proof the mod hasn't posted anything saying you died

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and I don't really understand why we're arguing about a fake dayvig

[EchoVision]

You like an Echo lynch more but you rather be on a leading wagon?
That smells fishy.
Must be because you're a penguin.

just for that joke I'm actually day vigging you

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yeah I could see Alisae and karnos scum team

VOTE: karnos

l-1 boy watch out

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I think it's l-1 at least

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my karnos vote wasn't a reaction test I think you two are scum buddies that's why you haven't hammered yet. I'm fine with lynching either one of you cause the other is getting hung tomorrow

[EchoVision]

and I've learned from experience now, reaction tests are fun too

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so Alisae care to explain your town read on karnos?

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then do you scum read him? if so why haven't you hammered?

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usually hammering on an opportunity like this is something that scum likes to do

unless the hammeree is the person's partner

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Either way you legitmately jumped at every wagon at every chance you got.

are you forgetting when you put Shannon on l-1 or l-2 in RVS?! that wagon was shit-tastic and I never touched that shit fest.

Only wagons I've jumped on have been yours (cause I fuckin started it) and karnos' because y'all are scum buddies

also page top woohoo

[EchoVision]

way to follow your win con

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why do you want to hammer someone so bad? why not vote and let someone else hammer?

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agreed. so is Alisae.

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also page top fuck you all <3

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I agree... you gave reason as to why he should hammer but not any reason on the vote...?

UNVOTE:

edit: thinking about that... karnos is seeming a little less scummy but we'll see where shit goes

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VOTE: EchoVision

Special bonus vote for pagetoping.

then again this vote was also bad... I feel like Alisae and karnos are after me because I've been voting them and they don't actually scum read me. Alisae isn't as bad as this though, he's actually been supporting his case on me. this vote was just rabbit shit

[EchoVision]

So

Echo

Who don't you fos

you
penguin
idk who else is in the game

OH shannon

only people I fos are hamm Alisae and karnos. I don't have issues with anyone else

yet

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I agree... you gave reason as to why he should hammer but not any reason on the vote...?

UNVOTE:

edit: thinking about that... karnos is seeming a little less scummy but we'll see where shit goes

btw meant why he should claim here not why he should hammer. my mistake.

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only people I fos are hamm Alisae and karnos. I don't have issues with anyone else yet

2 can be scum only.

Pick 2.

actually I'd like to see a lot more activity from the dont_vote_me/btd6 slot before I pick because I'm starting to lose a little sus on Alisae and I don't see karnos and hamm as scum buddies

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Either way you legitmately jumped at every wagon at every chance you got.

I really haven't though, I've only jumped on two and that's cause at the time I scum read the person. again, remember the Shannon wagon early in the game? when you put her at l-1 or l-2 in rvs and then said woohoo early game wagons

and you're calling me out for jumping on wagons?

or was it just a reaction test

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Karnos has done nothing to try and figure out anybody's alignments. The single piece of useful information he has provided was his observation that Alisae changed reads three times in 24 hours. Other than that he complained about the setup of a game that he signed-up to join, and then refused to claim when threatened with a hammer. Jeesh, just because I don't spell it all out doesn't mean I haven't thought about it. Also, I already stated intent to hammer Karnos on the last page and nobody batted an eye. Now after someone unvoted him to L-2, I vote to put him back on L-1 and people start suspecting me?

the first half is fine and tbh I agree with it. he hasn't been scum hunting blah blah blah the refusing to claim was stupid bullshit yeah I agree he's playing defensively and not going on offense at all other than people on his wagon

the second half is not a town post. after one vote and someone calling fos on you, you don't start arguing the scum reads on you as a town. you're trying to seem too townie here and it's failing miserably.

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I get it real life comes in the way but overall we've seen 1 post out of the btd6 slot and it didn't contribute shit. it was him saying he will look into something more and then going v/la for 3 days

he comes back tomorrow and hopefully he actually contributes

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oh and happy birthday Trans!

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Either way you legitmately jumped at every wagon at every chance you got.

I really haven't though, I've only jumped on two and that's cause at the time I scum read the person. again, remember the Shannon wagon early in the game? when you put her at l-1 or l-2 in rvs and then said woohoo early game wagons

and you're calling me out for jumping on wagons?

or was it just a reaction test

RVS wagons are great tools to analyze. Hell even you jumped on the Shannon wagon. You also jumped on the Hamster wagon. Then you also tried to start my wagon. Then you jumped on Karnos oppertunisticly.
If anything you should be using this as an arguement against Hamster, because they put Shannon at L-1. And they put Karnos at L-1.

Not everything is a reaction test lmao.
You're forgetting that I'm seasoned out enough to see your reaction tests

look at my ISO, I never touched the Shannon wagon and I've stated that numerous times yet you still are convinced that I jumped on it. the only people I've voted have been hamm, you, and karnos in that order

I thought it was you who had put Shannon at l-1 in rvs that's my bad should have checked

[EchoVision]

oh nice I'm getting lynched isn't that fun

well I'm a 1shot BP so if anyone claims cop doc or tracker lynch the fuck out of them later k thnx <3

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I don't really understand how the wagon has formed on me but oh well it is what it is

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see karnos, when you're at l-1 this is what you do. you

claim

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Also:

I think Echo is town based on the fake hammer of Alisae in 258

with no unvote. YaY!

what do you mean with no unvote? Shannon's not voting me??

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hey penguin where ya at?

Oh yeah, let's not forget about this gem.

how the fuck was this a gem I don't understand what's so scummy about a post asking why a player hasn't posted.... and you're coming after me for reaching???

let's start this back up
VOTE: alisae

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I'm gonna go through hamms iso and look for shit that leads me to him as opposed to karnos cause I don't like how (as Alisae said) he has jumped onto two wagons now putting the person at l-1

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I know this is random voting stage but if I had to pick scum right now it would be Shannon. I think she is trying too hard to act casual and talk about things that don't have anything to do with this game. Contrast that to Transcend, who asks about pineapple pizza (delicious!) but in a jokey kind of way that doesn't look like he is trying to convince us that he is harmless.

I think Echo is rude and shouldn't have said that to Alisae. Hopefully they are friends and this is kind-hearted banter.

VOTE: Shannon

Yeah this post is why the votes against you sparked... this was totally over analyzing Shannon way too early in the game and according to what Alisae said which I believe is true, you put her at l-1for this reason? because she didn't seem casual?? that's not good...

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Lmao he's actually right his vote is on karnos... well thanks for making me claim mod! lmao

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I still don't find anything Trascend is doing scummy. He seems to be trying to figure out the game by taking stances and making accusations. So even though he is wrong about me, I won't be voting him. You can be town and be wrong, after all. In fact, you might be more often wrong when you are town, because scum already knows which side everybody is on. Echo and Shannon have posted since my post and the subsequent controversy surrounding it, yet neither have commented on it, which I don't like. Ari agreed with Transcend that my post was over analysis, but didn't vote me, which I suppose is ok. I'm inclined to see Alisae as town, but that might be clouded by him defending me. Really it is just as likely that Alisae is scum trying to get on my good side. To answer Ari's question, I have played Mafia in person with friends, and online (but it was very different there). Before playing on this site, I read some newbie guides and part of the wiki. So hopefully I'm not totally clueless.

I'm leaving my vote on Shannon. If I had two votes, I'd also vote Echo (his posts haven't done anything useful yet).

my issue with this post is that you say one thing that leads thoughts to one direction, then you counter claim yourself saying why theres a chance it's not true. Again with over analyzation, I feel like town wouldn't care enough to be this cautious and you're just being super over cautious so that you don't slip up

edit: okay thanks frozen lmao <3

[EchoVision]

Karnos should claim now or explicitly state that he will not be claiming. I also intend to hammer, so if Alisae backs off we still should get a claim and some more discussion before we go to night.

Here you say it's fine for him to state that he's not claiming

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VOTE: Karnos

L-1

Karnos should claim if someone intends to hammer. I understand that this setup makes it impossible to verify until the end of the game, but forcing claims could give town PRs a more solid read on the person who is forced to claim, based on whether or not such a claim is possible given what the PRs know is possible with the set-up. I'm not saying for example that if Karnos fake-claims cop and there is a real town cop in this game that they should counter-claim, but at least the cop in that situation would know 100% that Karnos is scum.

but HERE you say that he should claim and dont give him the option to not claim anymore?

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Karnos has done nothing to try and figure out anybody's alignments. The single piece of useful information he has provided was his observation that Alisae changed reads three times in 24 hours. Other than that he complained about the setup of a game that he signed-up to join, and then refused to claim when threatened with a hammer. Jeesh, just because I don't spell it all out doesn't mean I haven't thought about it. Also, I already stated intent to hammer Karnos on the last page and nobody batted an eye. Now after someone unvoted him to L-2, I vote to put him back on L-1 and people start suspecting me?

I went into this last page or the page before but you're trying to seem too innocent and I don't like it

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Vote Count 1.10 - Fixed

Echo Vision (3): Aristophanes, Alisae, karnos
Karnos (2): shannon, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III
Alisae (1): Transcend

Not Voting (3): BTD6_Maker, PenguinPower, EchoVision

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-02-12 09:24:49)

This is The correct vote count in 412. There were two wagons with 3 votes when Prof Hamm T Smiggles III voted and announced L1 and I kinda fucked that up when I was posting that vc 4 am earlier today I'm deeply sorry for any inconvenience this caused.

you're fine frozen lol don't worry about it. my claim has worked out for the better so far anyways

[EchoVision]

all I'm really seeing out of hamm are counter claims against nobody other than himself and opportunistic votes...

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herself* sorry force of habit

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Echo, why aren't you voting me right now? I think you are either scum fake-claiming, or you are town with a terrible read on this game. You started attacking me based on two false pieces of information: 1) That I was voting you, and 2) That I had previously put Shannon at L-1. Even after this information was corrected you continue to push me as scum, yet you haven't moved your vote off of Alisae (unless the vote count is wrong again). Go re-read Karno's posts and tell me how he could possibly be town.

because you're scum but you're not good scum

if we don't lynch Alisae now, he will slide his way out of this shit cause he's jesus

I won't forget about you being scum because you'll continue to do stupid scummy shit for the rest of the game



Also, I didn't attack you for voting me. Alisae pointed out some good points being that I should look into you because you have put two people at l-1 with shitty reasoning so I decided to look into your slot to see what other scummy shit you've done. turns out there was quite a bit of it...

Also UNVOTE: I need btd6 slot to actually post some shit before I can get a decent read on this game

[EchoVision]

1. If anyone thought it was my birthday, it's not.

2. Hi

3. Echo still feels like a mislynch

4. Not sure if karnos is bad town or bad scum

5. I like cookies and milk.

do you like oreo and milk??

and here's some game talk: I need btd6 slot to post because I need to read him. I think hamm is scum and I think Alisae is scum, but I don't think they're scum together. So if one of them isn't scum, I think it's Alisae...

[EchoVision]

1. If anyone thought it was my birthday, it's not.

2. Hi

3. Echo still feels like a mislynch

4. Not sure if karnos is bad town or bad scum

5. I like cookies and milk.

Not his birthday.
Has Karnos on his Naughty list.
Likes milk and cookies.

Transcend confirmed as Santa Clause!!!

laughing but didn't say hohoho therefore can't be Santa clause... Mrs clause confirmed??

edit: what's the life hack with the knife? I make fun of my girlfriend all the time for this but it's really smart: she takes a fork and sticks it through the icing in the middle of the oreo then dips it in her cup of milk so that she doesn't drop the oreo in or get milk on her hands or anything

[EchoVision]

aris I'm gonna need you to answer this question for me to read you, do you like oreos?

[EchoVision]

What do you make of Echo's claim?

I said he is either fake-claiming scum or just town with terrible reads. Once everybody else posts reactions to his claim we should have a better idea. Also your question looks like an effort to determine whether or not I might be a PR that can confirm his claim.

isn't discrediting fun

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Also, I didn't attack you for voting me. Alisae pointed out some good points being that I should look into you because you have put two people at l-1 with shitty reasoning so I decided to look into your slot to see what other scummy shit you've done. turns out there was quite a bit of it...

The problem is you didn't really look into it. You took Alisae at his word and started attacking me based on incorrect information. Then when it was corrected you were too far gone to come back to reality. And aren't you scum-reading Alisae?

so what, who cares if I started looking into you because of false information? that's not why I'm scum reading you... you've even said yourself that I STARTED attacking you for that reason. my reason for CONTINUING to attack you is cause your iso is scummy as fuck. any more defensive questions for a person who's not even voting you??

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Echo, why aren't you voting Karnos again?

because I've already said I'm not voting until I see more activity out of btd6 slot. I don't think you and Alisae are scum buddies, and I don't think that you and karnos are scum buddies but I think you Alisae and karnos are scum. I need to see if btd6 seems scummy or not because that will help me with my reads on the possible scum duo

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also save the defensive talk for when you actually have votes on you. when you don't have a single vote on you there's no need to be defensive about someone simply FoSing you. this is coming off as scummy because you seem like you want to stay out of the attention for now and it's not working

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LOL

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I guarantee he won't flip anything...

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good jokes and likes oreos

I can get along with you...

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his switch on stances on Alisae was 28 posts later. that's pretty reachy to me on btd6's part... stuff changes as the game goes on and with an April join date I figured you would know that

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Also:

I think Echo is town based on the fake hammer of Alisae in 258

with no unvote. YaY!

what do you mean with no unvote? Shannon's not voting me??

Penguin

oh nice I'm getting lynched isn't that fun

well I'm a 1shot BP so if anyone claims cop doc or tracker lynch the fuck out of them later k thnx <3

Glad you claimed, now we have a starting point to work from.

All this stuff you post below is spot on. Spoilers because it ends up being so much.

Spoiler:

Karnos should claim now or explicitly state that he will not be claiming. I also intend to hammer, so if Alisae backs off we still should get a claim and some more discussion before we go to night.

Here you say it's fine for him to state that he's not claiming

VOTE: Karnos

L-1

Karnos should claim if someone intends to hammer. I understand that this setup makes it impossible to verify until the end of the game, but forcing claims could give town PRs a more solid read on the person who is forced to claim, based on whether or not such a claim is possible given what the PRs know is possible with the set-up. I'm not saying for example that if Karnos fake-claims cop and there is a real town cop in this game that they should counter-claim, but at least the cop in that situation would know 100% that Karnos is scum.

but HERE you say that he should claim and dont give him the option to not claim anymore?

VOTE: Hammy

if hammy were to end up as scum, who do you think would be his scum buddy??

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I garentee you they are going to say that their name starts with an A and ends with lisae

the issue is I don't think that you two are scum together...

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I garentee you they are going to say that their name starts with an A and ends with lisae

the issue is I don't think that you two are scum together...

For the sake of a new perspective, let's say they're not a team.

Hammy looks worse to me than Ali does, hence my vote there. All that spoilered stuff above adds up to a pretty good case. And I really don't think she's new, at all, and I think she's been playing on that in a way that is dishonest, if not a scum tell exactly.

Alisae if it's not you, where should I be looking for scum? (Don't say at myself, or we're just going to go around in circles). And what do you think of Hammy?

Yeah I agree. Alisae started out scummy as fuck but that might just be his play style. He's gotten better imo. hammy I just don't think is town...

VOTE: hamm

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can we get schwifty instead

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starting to think scum team is btd6 and hammy

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prodge cause at this point I don't really have any opinions on anything happening in this game...

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hamm have you claimed yet cause if not now is the time

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also sorry for neglecting this thread life got in the way

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Echo, why aren't you voting me right now? I think you are either scum fake-claiming, or you are town with a terrible read on this game. You started attacking me based on two false pieces of information: 1) That I was voting you, and 2) That I had previously put Shannon at L-1. Even after this information was corrected you continue to push me as scum, yet you haven't moved your vote off of Alisae (unless the vote count is wrong again). Go re-read Karno's posts and tell me how he could possibly be town.

I think a jailkeeper would make this post 0/10 times to a bulletproof claim.

Yeah I agree. I think with someone of hammys skill she would try to buddy me because we're prs and doesn't try to counterclaim me in any way. Also, if you were really a JK then there was a 1/5 chance that I claimed the correct role to go with your jk and you never even brought it up. I don't believe this claim in any way so my vote stays.

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who the fuck is azral

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VOTE: penguinpower

you said it yourself, if you weren't scum, karnos was and if you were, then karnos wasn't. doesn't look like karnos was scum otherwise game would have ended

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why are you posting in a game where you died?? shouldn't you be locked out of the thread?? is there something I'm missing...?

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VOTE: Btd6
only lynch that makes sense to me right now...

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if btd6 isn't scum and neither is Shannon then that rules out Trans and PP is conf Town..

that means tomorrow if Shannon dies tonight then we lynch aris imo.

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I point to my play being Townish

this is disgusting lynch this shit please

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didn't mean to make the whole thing huge just what he said. either way it's fucking disgusting ewwwwwwww why is it still alive kill it with fire you scummy fuck

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VOTE: Btd6

they call me Thor cause I have a godly hammer

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so how many of us are alone on valentines day??

/me raises hand

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btw Alisae I want to be you so I'm copying all your shit thanks

you still smell

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you seem too pissed off that you had 2 votes on you. trying to be obvious town but I don't see it...

VOTE: Trans

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the page didn't refresh when I opened the page on my phone so I didn't even see Shannon vote... Oh well...