Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

[Aj The Epic]

Mozamis and Tywin have fucking identical reads. They both were convinced each other was town.

[Elbirn]

Aj I told you already to shut the fuck up

[Aj The Epic]

If you really think scum is fucking dumb enough to counterclaim...

[Titus]

Mozamis and Tywin have fucking identical reads. They both were convinced each other was town.

Yeah, makes sense. One is a townbeard. I am not arguing this with you further.

Do you want to vote Nero?

[Aj The Epic]

I don't particularly blame Nero for having an unbold vote count to a lynch, as I wouldn't expect it to count either.

[Titus]

AJ, not my question. Are you protecting Nero or something?

[Aj The Epic]

No, but I won't vote him for reasons of an unbold vote.

[Titus]

Again, not my question. What do you think of Nero?

[Elbirn]

If you really think scum is fucking dumb enough to counterclaim...

That's not the point. The point is you're dragging a PR out into the open for no God damn reason. Whoever the mason is has their choice to claim or to stay hidden and youre fucking with that by fishing for it like a punkass.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can we lynch Tywin. I have a feeling he has a BP.
Also I feel a LOT better about Titus then I did. End of Day 2 I was tempted to shoot her and was super conflicted.

No, I'll give Tywin a tentative pass. I think I'll explain why now since it's pretty obvious in retrospect. I think he is moz's mason buddy.

[Pine]

Why in the absolute fuck are you people outing the Mason. Masons are better revealed later, as a weapon against scum. I mean, yeah, Syryana was literally the only person it could possibly be (everyone else was either attacked or was attacked by Moz) but there's a chance scum didn't do their homework.

Gah. I don't mind site meta changing, but I do mind when it's in a stupid direction. Like I told Cabd page 1, we're going to have a discussion of Masons post-game. I'll be breaking out the extra pointy vocabulary.

End rant, back to game.

PE: Phoneposting or I'd quote where Tywin was ruled out. If we're outing the Mason, don't be an ignoramus about it.

[Titus]

Hey, anyone have a reason to TR Nero?

[Gamma Emerald]

More reasonable explanation:

Mozamis flipped mason. Scum assumed mozamis's buddy did not vote him. Scum tried to shoot the buddy last night.
Players not voting Mozamis at lynch include Cabd, Tywin, Sonia, and Nosferatu. We now know Nosferatu was scum, so we can cross her off of scum's list. Mozamis himself voted Tywin and Sonia, which would be enough reason not to shoot them. That leaves Cabd and Syryana/Gerryoat.

Elbirn's hammer appears to have been accidental but might have been a clever fake banking on the mod counting Nero's vote. He's seemed towny to me for most if not all of the game so I'm ruling it was an accident.
Assuming Elbirn's hammer was an accident that leaves Gerryoat(Syryana) and Elbirn as the likely mason partners. I suggest we don't lynch there for now because scum will feel pressured to hunt for the other mason with the NK. Mason should also not claim for now to save yourself to CC in case scum tries to claim mozamis buddy.

I could probably do Tywin today. Will look at Mozamis ISO and try to remember who pushed her. Gonna check VCs.

Good points but I remember someone stating moz and Tywin had similar reads.

[Pine]

Tywin scum? He seems to love asking lots of questions. And setting up Cloud - obvious mislynch bait. I mean, sure my immediate response to Clouds first post was : oh, fuck this, let's lynch him, because grammatically it's painful shit. But easy or difficulut to read has nothing to do with town or scum.
I'll keep my vote on Alea for now but may well change to Tywin when i finish my catch up.

OK, caught up.

Town: Me, Sonia, Cloud.
Prob town: SSBm, ELbirn. Pine

Null: Cabd, AJ, Uzi, Nero, Gamma, Transcend, Nosferatu

Pos scum: Twin, Lapsa, Alisea

Scum: Titus.

UNVOTE

VOTE TITUS

That's just within the first 31 posts in his ISO.

[Pine]

VOTE TYWIN

Verbose scum. Unacceptable.

Ugh. I meant this one, not the Titus vote. Stupid phone. Stupid quote+ button. Stupid players with visually-similar names

[Aj The Epic]

Again, not my question. What do you think of Nero?

I mean, it was your question at the time.

I've been null-town on Nero for a while, simply because he's played exactly as I'd expect with you in the game.

P-edit: And there are posts where Mozamis has Syrana in his scum pile of three, multiple times.

As far as I'm concerned, the outting today is fine. Titus, Alisae, Mason buddy and Pine (probably) all need to die from their point of view so it's really unlikely that they can actually devote a whole day to avoid a killer role that's eliminated at least half their team already or Titus who's essentially full cleared by a now-dead semi-cop.

[Pine]

Not that I recall, but I could be wrong.

Hey, now that we've decided that no one is certain, let's abandon the issue of identifying the Mason, agree that Alisae doesn't shoot the possible choices, and let them claim late game? Cool? Awesome. Stfu about the Mason.

[Titus]

VOTE: Nero

Either this hunts today or dies.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's actually seriously obvious Tywin was a mason with Mozamis. As soon as mozamis flipped, I wanted to kick myself for not seeing it.

Syr is the mason. Tyr is whiteknighting scum most likely.

aight

[Aj The Epic]

That realistically leaves Sonia, myself, Gamma, Elbrin, Nero and SSBM (unless we're still playing with that masonthought being a townslip) as possible lynch targets today.

[Titus]

Tywin and Syr are still candidates for lynching. If we derp and hit the other mason, we unvote.

This reeks of protecting Tywin.

[Aj The Epic]

Well since I've outright stated that I don't want him lynched today as the other mason, I'd say you're probably right.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Hey look Nos flip'd scum SHOCKER

[Pine]

Actually, it kind of was. Nos didn't do anything overtly scummy, he just lurked a lot. That makes him the province of Vigilantes. I'll be pointing to this game as prime evidence of that axiom in the future.

[Pine]

Well, not a shocker, just not as obvious as you're trying to make it sound, Sonia.