Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[Papa Zito]

Hello I am phone.

[Papa Zito]

Onice.

VOTE: camn

ez pz

[Papa Zito]

choo choo all aboard

[Papa Zito]

yes and why am I a turtle

[Papa Zito]

oh is this going to be one of

those

games

47-49 is burnworthy stuff

there is something missing from this post can you spot it

[Papa Zito]

I'm willing to lynch anyone who claims post restriction.

and yet

[Papa Zito]

Arrite that's fair.

Can you elucidate me on Nahdia then cuz I clearly missed something.

[Papa Zito]

I think Dunnstral may be for highlighting what he thought was a soft in thread. Rather than, you know, taking it back to the scumthread and parsing what it may actually allude to.

I mean, he coulda done both, but my inclination is to think someone wouldn't bring up the same topic in two places. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe not.

Ok this is scum because ____________________________________________________________ .

[Papa Zito]

Soft whiteknighting

or explaining why she townread a post?

assuming daychat

I'll admit I assume daychat nowadays. I didn't read that godawful blue mess so I dunno if it says anything about that specifically.

picking contrarian view so it look original and townie

ok now you're just assigning motivations

super wishy wash.

have you met nahdia


oh no am I whiteknighting now

[Papa Zito]

zito cld you pretty plz with sugar on top help out with spyrella

I see what you are seeing with sad, at least I think I do but you shld also note that sad was also fosing spyrella while doing nothing to further his read on him in lieu of this his push on nahdia

Not really seeing an issue with SpyreX tho.

Why do you have to get sarcastic and defensive about it if it was of no concern to you?

I love this post so much.

Zito I'm calling a blood vow chit get over here

ok

VOTE: infinity

[Papa Zito]

ur mom's a pretty bad wagon

[Papa Zito]

if you know what I mean

[Papa Zito]

This guy gets it

Talk to me about zito.

Why don't you talk to me about zito instead.

I heard he's a fine upstanding fellow that helps grannies cross the street.

What've YOU heard?

[Papa Zito]

do you mean you are thinking the mod might lie/this could be bastard to degrees?

Infinity 324 (0): SpyreX, Dunnstral, Papa Zito, camntsuki

.

Clearly we need infinity votes to lynch this guy.

[Papa Zito]

We;re fine with a RC V/LA for 3 days if it means that he gets to stay in.

same

[Papa Zito]

This guy gets it

Talk to me about zito.

Why don't you talk to me about zito instead.

I heard he's a fine upstanding fellow that helps grannies cross the street.

What've YOU heard?

bro

feed my ego

talk to me about me

[Papa Zito]

I FORGOT TO POST MY V/LA

BLUH

catching up thank fuck this game isn't 40 pages

[Papa Zito]

@Spy:

What's your take on this dreamer fellow? PS I'm not feeling the Infinity thing tbh.

I read back over 91 again, and I still think that sounds like a well constructed post. It lays out why Spyrex is a good wagon, and Spy's defense thus far has been shaky at best.

Can you go into some more detail here. What did you like about that post in particular? What haven't you liked about SpyreX's response in particular?

[Papa Zito]

Also Dunnstral what the hell are you doing?

[Papa Zito]

WE'RE BACKKK

HAVENT READ GAME BUT WE'D BE FINE WITH A KAGAMI LOLWAGON

oh jfc this is gonna confuse me all game

[Papa Zito]

I did not like Spy's response to SAD (90). It stuck out to me because it was something as academic as a discussion over whether a post restriction is liable to be faked or not.

I'm still not sure what you disliked about this response. SpyreX is saying he's seen townies fake PRs before, let's not jump to conclusions. Which seems perfectly reasonable to me. What issue do you have with it?

It's kind of been downhill from here. Spy seems fixated on camn's vote (though, to be fair, camn is tunneling very strongly) and goes further to imply that there's nothing else worth talking about.

Where does he imply this?

He has no good offense, and mollie called him out on this in 91, too.

Mollie's post (minus meta) references that same SAD post so ??


P.S. I had no idea about this bookmark trick you're doing this is gr8

[Papa Zito]

uh

[Papa Zito]

is this game weird for anyone else? It feels like it's just flying in all directions.

I'm in love with Brofist tho hell yes.

ive decided dunnstral is town again.

VOTE: pirate mollie

I quoted this when it happened but then you explained it and while it seems awfully strange that she's your only REAL scumread I think I get why you're saying that so yeah carry on.

Look at the camn interaction on the last couple pages.

404 Interaction Not Found

help me out


pedit: I'm trying but people keep posting gosh

[Papa Zito]

is this game weird for anyone else? It feels like it's just flying in all directions.

Holy

Moly

Good Golly

Miss Mollie

I'ma go ahead and put it out there and tell you all what I really think, because, hey, I'm town and I tell the Truth in this Astral Plane:

I would think nacho would have mmmm....not as much respect I'll say, for those who would give him any sort of pass if they legit. think he's scum.

come at him

come at him hard

If you feel this way about nacho why the hell did you unvote him?

[Papa Zito]

I don't get it, Mollie o.o

same

[Papa Zito]

not to say I have a mystical townread on that slot, because there have been other questionable posts

I just don't get why that one was worthy of a vote

[Papa Zito]

Man this fucking game

If anyone is on I'd like to talk about something, anything

Hey dude what's up.

[Papa Zito]

Hi how's it going

Do you still think I'm scum, if so why, if not who is

Not particularly, no. Anticipating your follow-up question: I tried to get SpyreX to explain the issue but he doesn't really seem able to do so. I'm here at his request but the lack of push makes me sadface.

I don't like anything the hydra has done and I'm curious to see what mollie is up to.

[Papa Zito]

Dude zito i dont know how else to push

I mean

The guy now has a hundred thousand posts in here. You've pointed to a mysterious camn interaction I can't find but is that really the only thing that pinged in all those words? Is there nothing more recent? Cuz tbh he looks like someone trying to solve the game.

To ensure clarity I'm not sadfacing because I suspect you're an evil space squid here but because I remember ye olden times when you'd grab a game by the throat and shake it into submission.

[Papa Zito]

You got me Kagami. I've never ignored a vote in my entire career. I'm a rabid dog when I see those four letters proceed my name. People flee in terror. The national guard is mobilized. Children duck and cover beneath their desks. Lo, the hour is nigh. Tremble in terror or something.

then why are you not voting spyrella

Why in all the seven hells would I be voting SpyreX right now.

Yes the VC is shit, I pointed that out and SAD had a cute little fit about it.

@Spy

I'm gonna go review all those things tonight when I have some time to iso things. Clearly I need to be doing deepdives anyway because this gamestate is all kinds of wrong.

pedit: lol

[Papa Zito]

You are saying I lied about ISOing you?
That's really your argument?

Well..I

did

ISO you.. and I would have no reason as scum to AVOID ISOing you.
And your ISO is short and meaningless.
AND your argument is ridiculous, and so is your face.

That whole post you just quoted was me trying to drag you INTO this game.. and your whole reaction is you trying to AVOID getting dragged in... but you are anyway!

Furthermore- I wasn't even using any of that post to "push this same bullshit push". I wasn't voting you then, and no vote came with that post. You wanna know the truth?
I actually was going to ruthlessly wagon

anyone you wanted

... I just needed you to actually start pushing a wagon instead of laying around. Your so-called Infinity hate was kitten-hate smoldering all game.. and I was hoping you had

any

kind of fresh look.
There WAS no push on you until you decided a 1v1 was the thing to do... which is gonna be hilarious when Kats wakes up and sees what I did here.

Is mastin in this hydra?

[Papa Zito]

I got distracted by Afterbirth+ launch last night sorry I will read stuff today at lunch.

[Papa Zito]

Is the hydra off your list cuz of the 1v1 or is there something else?

[Papa Zito]

mollie I think we're in sync here what does it mean

[Papa Zito]

Your last two votes.



(subject to change pending reread but atm yes)

[Papa Zito]

I will be the official translator for all of Zito's posts.

Don't quit your day job.

[Papa Zito]

So I looked through camntsuki's iso and boy howdy.

now is the time to breathe life into it

Agree. Lets do it your way then.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nahdia.

I'll start here. 0 talk about nahdia prior to this, or after really, and yet.

also- anyone wanna take odds on nacho and dreamerz being scum together?

So nacho and dreamer are scum together, ok. (note: still voting Nahdia)

but I really wanna shake out nacho/dreamz

VOTE: dreamz

(lets go the other way, though! dreamerz might be pretty confused about a great number of things... but he is right as rain about lurkernacho = scumnacho...)

...or not? Why protest this vote if camntsuki thinks dreamerz is scum? (note: still voting Nahdia)

Like... tell me about this dreamers guy- should I hate him?

Hell of a waffle after 397. (note: still voting Nahdia)

Mollie- ISO Spyrex. Ignore your Katsuki-hate.. and ISO spyrex.
Nacho- you too.

This one is what made me do a deeper look. Why oh why oh why appeal to nacho here? That makes absolutely 0 sense coming from someone who thinks nacho is scum.

And Mollie and Nacho.. ISO SPYREX! TELL ME YOU SEE WHAT I SEE!
Dunnstrall too.. except you are partners with him. But Get on his wagon again now that its gonna be real.

Here he does it again. Also now SpyreX-Dunnstral are partners, along with Nacho-dreamer. And I guess Nahdia.

actually..I'm going to bed.. but let's see how this plays out:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Infinity!

[/quote]
Oh but don't forget Infinity too. There are many scum in this game. This is especially ????? after spending so much energy screaming for a SpyreX wagon.


There's no progression in any of this. It's all random and self-contradictory and if I hear "welp hydra" I swear to god I'll burn this thread down. The weird dance with Mollie and 296 are gravy.


VOTE: camntsuki

[Papa Zito]

I'm not dating you sad no matter how much you beg.

[Papa Zito]

My lynch list remains the same except plus zito and minus camn. Zito did a classic scum thing by "suddenly realizing" a top wagon is scummy and then making a case, it's one of my favorite scum tactics

You know what one of my favorite tactics is? I love the part when people self-meta and then project that onto another player. I am no longer my own person, I am now only an avatar of Infinity 324, The Most Classic Of Cars.

Not to mention SpyreX and I had a conversation about camntsuki before I did that read I promised oops whooooooosh
Let's also not even address the points made let's just do some happy handwaving magics about them instead. Where have I seen this before, hmm I dunno where I could've seen that recently welp I'm off to go build my bush hut l8r

We have ~3.5 days left. Time to vote infinity.

Vote: drrrrrealmerrrrrrz7

rofl

[Papa Zito]

it was a silly way to say it but ngl the camn case from you did feel iffy to me as well.

You know what? You're right. In the face of your massive contributions to this thread, I am thoroughly ashamed. Fuck me for putting effort into a game when I could just cross my arms and lean back and criticize people. Clearly I had scum intentions with the effort I put into that post, intentions you have so thoroughly put to light with your incredible arguments. I am obviously not scumhunting here, I am not examining motivations behind that slot's votes, I'm not looking at inconsistencies and timing, I sure as hell aren't putting my thoughts out there instead of hiding in the shadows like I could be doing. I'm just trying to push a lynch through on a slot I'd never mentioned before then because who the fuck cares as long as it's not me.

You guys got me. You are all A+ scumhunters and I'm a 300 ELO drooling moron. Thanks for putting me in my place, well done.

[Papa Zito]

nerd

[Papa Zito]

Somehow I believed I would enjoy this playerlist.

[Papa Zito]

I have a sick kid and my weekly Thursday night thing. I'll read up tomorrow.

[Papa Zito]

I still need to read up but to answer the major question -

Uh

Did you stop the lynch? Y/N

Yes and no. I had in my possession a tradable item called the "Talisman of Protection". I thought it just protected against nightkills but apparently it protected against kills of any type.

[Papa Zito]

Oh, huh. I have no idea. I guess that's how Fate chose to have the lynch protection work.

pedit: I started with it.

[Papa Zito]

ok so maybe one reason why this game is so bonkers is because half of it is being played in other threads

[Papa Zito]

Dunnstral why didn't you hammer camntsuki yesterday?

[Papa Zito]

Also mollie since you're here can you explain what your read on me actually is? Because it seems to be all over the damn place.

[Papa Zito]

here, I enlarged the letters in case your eyes glazed over from reading my walls as they intend to do, I am sure.

No I read all that. Let me ask a better question.

Yesterday you voted me because I'm an avocado. But prior to that you said you didn't have a scum read on me. Today you expressed a town read despite my not having posted. This is what I mean by your read on me being all over the damn place. I'm speaking about the whole game, not just the current moment. Can you talk about that?

@Dunnstrall:

Why didn't you hammer camntsuki yesterday?

[Papa Zito]

I don't think they ever reached l-1? If they did, can you link me to where

I read it in my catchup, I'll have to dig it up again. Give me a bit.

I'm questioning whether papa zito would make up that he recieved an item in order to get out of the perceived danger of the governor theory. It doesn't help that he says absolutely nothing about it to start the day off

Specifically, how can you "not know" that it stops lynches?

I didn't say anything at the start of the day because I knew there'd be questions and I wanted to be here to answer them.

The item doesn't mention anything about lynches specifically. I made the assumption that it only worked on NKs.

^^^ I have newfound theory based off of pple's interactions in case any1 is interested.

I guess I took your avocado comment as a scumread. If that's not what that was then ok.

I'd like to hear your theory because I'm operating completely in the dark.

[Papa Zito]

@Dunn:

Here's the thing I read:

P happy with either Zito and Nacho, obv prefer the former.

I'm also p sure camnhydra got to L-1 over the last 10 pages, so that was interesting.

@ zito

- a cple of questions for you; you are showing no concern for getting lynched off of 6 votes as opposed to 7. why is that?

I don't understand this question.

[Papa Zito]

you were lynched at 6 votes. so I am wondering why you have not commented on that it doesn't appear to have to do with your role. I wld like to hear your comments on this now.

??

I wasn't lynched and there were 7 votes. I have no clue what you mean.

@Nacho:

You've just posted 2 points of "you should have done this." Are you serious. Do you not realize how absolutely stupid that is. Let's play make believe for a moment and pretend I played to Nachomamma8 Approved Standards. You know what would've happened? Some other clownboy would've strolled along and whined that I didn't do it

his

way. GTFO with that noise. I am not you and I don't play exactly how you play oh em gee that's terrible. Here have a list of additional things.

1. People were dabbling in the whole "Zito is scum but I'm not gonna bother with reasons cuz lol" for most of the day. If they weren't openly voting they were making dumb side comments about it. The wagon didn't just spring up on the 6th.
2. Clearly if my goal was to "lurk to victory" I would have done something when it was abundantly clear the town was going full derp mode and not actually let myself get lynched? Some victory?
3. What's the point of burning a game-changing item when I could've just shown back up.
4. I didn't post until I was here to elaborate because if I'd done it your way I'd have a bunch of other people frothing about not answering questions for however long I was away from the thread.

That said camn lolractions and infinity handwringing wont get it done but why on zito. Like three bullet items. Or semaphore. Or anything that isnt just look at his iso bro bro bro

Nobody was capable of answering this. My wagon was clearly scum pushed and I'm currently trying to figure out who they were.

[Papa Zito]

Didn't see it when it happened; not sure if SAD was even correct on the l-1 thing

I don't know if I would have hammered them either

You stole my next question. :/

If your goal is to protect the orbs like some kind of Warrior of Light then why wouldn't you have hammered them if you'd realized?

[Papa Zito]

OR AM I A REAL HUMAN BEING WITH REAL HUMAN BEING CONCERNS???

So I'm lying about holidays and being busy?

Do you think this post is a lie?

If my issue was I'm apathetic scum wanting to lurk why the fuck am I so active now? Why does it makes sense to burn my extremely useful item first?

IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE GONE FROM THE THREAD
YOU COULD HAVE SAID YOU WERE GOING TO BE GONE FROM THE THREAD

Glad to hear real life never happens to you. Keep up the good work.


PS If you're going to fake a PR at least be consistent about it.

[Papa Zito]

I wouldn't have hammered you either if I were more inclined to believe you were town at the time

Well now I'm confused.

I should have maybe mentioned this yesterday, but you should probably treat l-2 as if it's l-1, and know who's going to be placing the hammer. It won't be easy taking fragments from scum.

What did you mean by this then?

[Papa Zito]

in your hypothetical scum position i could see myself feeling meh and knowing that i wasn't going to die and dialing it in as a result

jfc

I've already ranted about applying self meta to other people

IN THIS FUCKING GAME

if you want to say I'm scum that's fine I don't care but at least base it on things I'VE ACTUALLY SAID OR DONE

mlem fucking mlem

[Papa Zito]

IT'S THE WEEKEND

I AM LESS ACTIVE ON WEEKENDS

PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH ME THANKS IN ADVANCE

I HOPE THIS MEETS NACHO APPROVED STANDARDS

LICK MY MLEM

[Papa Zito]

I like desperado they think good things that I agree with

Which things?



I'll be doing a bunch of reading at lunch yay

[Papa Zito]

(kagami aside who is totally fine and obvitown.)

I think Nacho is scum, I think dunn is scum, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on. Dunn+Infinity+? Nacho+Kagami+?

how did you manage this in the space of a single post

[Papa Zito]

not the least of which is that regardless of alignment, he's getting to endgame, which I'm not crazy about. I think he gets a pass because the claimed power may or may not fit into the setup depending on how other things go.

Just to be clear, the talisman was a one-shot passive. I'm not protected by it anymore.

[Papa Zito]

That's a shame, I'm sure it would be protecting you from lots of NKs in the coming nights.

Don't mind eating an NK in lieu of someone else at this point.

I waffled a bit on kagami during my compiling, obviously

Going from potential scumpartner to "totally fine and obvitown" is both extremes of the spectrum. It isn't waffling, it's the full potato pancake.

[Papa Zito]

Which things?

all of their things up to the point where i posted that! I agreed with the things they were saying.[/quote]
1393 or literally everything?

[Papa Zito]

boo I fucked the quote


If Fate exists can he fix plz

[Papa Zito]

I think Nacho is scum, I think dunn is scum, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on. Dunn+Infinity+? Nacho+Kagami+?

wtf are people trying to push the vote on staeg? that looks way fishy

infinity, zito, nacho, are the best options today from what I see

What.

VOTE: drealmerz7

[Papa Zito]

Desperado your damn winky face is ruining everything.

[Papa Zito]

what what, zito?

don't just think you're going to get a flashwagon on me with that on top of ppl's frustration with me?

Ok, lemme narrow it down a bit more for the audience.

I think Nacho is scum,

I think dunn is scum

, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on.

Dunn+Infinity+?

Nacho+Kagami+?

You explicitly say Dunn is scum twice and give a moonbeams conspiracy theory to back it up. I'm mentioned nowhere. A few posts later...

infinity, zito, nacho, are the best options today from what I see

Golly gee where did Dunn go.

This plus Kagami? nahhh

[Papa Zito]

I mean you're still throwing shade at Dunn and yet here we are.

[Papa Zito]

zito address your issue with me or shut up and quit scumming up the thread

is this real life

[Papa Zito]

zito, fucking stop, right the fuck now, and address me

what is your fucking issue, be straight

?????????????????????????????

What about 1461 and 62 do you not get?

[Papa Zito]

zito, fucking stop, right the fuck now, and address me

what is your fucking issue, be straight

?????????????????????????????

What about 1461 and 62 do you not get?

YOUR POINT OBVIOUSLY

you're not being direct

what is your beeef????

Am I being trolled?

What is this.


Mollie's trying to explain why your Dunn theory is batshit insane - you're twisting actions that clearly come from a townie mindset into something sinister. You spent a lot of energy in that giant godawful post talking about Dunn. You're still talking about Dunn

right now

. Yet he was magically left off your lynch list. Normally we could probably handwave and laffo about that but when it's directly on the heels of your Kagami "waffle" nonsense welp.

[Papa Zito]

"convinced enough" is only true if he is town, otherwise it is an act

if he's scum, what he really wants is to lynch someone he thinks has an orb, and setup a NK on somenoe else he thinks has an orb - how do you (that's General Yu) do that? you do exactly what dunn did! also it is smart for scum to setup a hard TR (especially if they can get a bunch of people to believe it) on a player and then NK them "oh yep, scum NKed the widely TR person, of course" - and then you WIFOM clear yourself - I'm just theorizing, I'm not saying THIS IS HOW IT IS, I don't fucking know

I do know that I prefer a nacho or infinity lynch today, or zito - and I don't know why my suspicions of dunn being scum mean I have to want to lynch him today - it's not that secure at all

Why am I on your lynch list when you didn't talk about me at all?

Why don't you want to lynch Dunn if you think he's scum?

Like... tell me about this dreamers guy- should I hate him?

He's town

Hey mollie, what are your thoughts if you give Kagami a short lookover?

how about you give dreamz a lookover cos that is who I am pushing

I'm not gonna let drealmerz get lynched

IF HE THOUGHT YOU HAD AN ORB FROM YOUR PERCEIVED SOFTCLAIMS AND HE WANTS TO LYNCH PEOPLE WITH AN ORB WHY WAS HE DEFENDING YOU SO HARD?????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????

[Papa Zito]

good lord almighty

[Papa Zito]

I apologize that I can't really formulate a response to the ravings of a madman.

I think you're just in a serious scumflail meltdown mode.

[Papa Zito]

I think you're just in a serious scumflail meltdown mode.

well I don't give a fuck what you think if that is how you express it

go do something else with your time and let us figure shit out, thanks

Can we lynch this please.

[Papa Zito]

Can we lynch this please.

why? because I'm not nice and cuddly to stupid shit?

Because you make 0 sense with a side of openly antagonistic so there's no downsides here.

[Papa Zito]

what the hell is happening

[Papa Zito]

I'd ask you why you want to lynch infinity but I'm afraid.

[Papa Zito]

Well fuck I'm convinced sign me up governor.

[Papa Zito]

scum also gets to map out "who trusts who and who is likely to pass to who" once the information starts to accumulate

all I'm saying is, be wary of dunnstral going forward, he could be scumplanner

guys plz

[Papa Zito]

You're spreading FUD dude.

[Papa Zito]

You're spreading FUD dude.

I think he is deliberately trying to bury the thread with shitposting, hence him bringing up irrelevant posts that had nothing to do with his points that he brought up, do not indicate he has any info other than what is in this thread, so not reason to handwring over what he says.

kagami is still shade throwing on you and dunn, even if she has backed off a bit. she continues to ignore nacho who has only given 1 single solid read and keeps disappearing. she also kept wanting to know about my role instead of clarifying her own and the reasons why she thought dunn was scum in the first place are along the same vein as dreamz. dunn trusts her but i don't.

dunn is town town and more town on top of that. he had every reason to believe that dreamz was softing which in my mind makes kagami that much worse. but you guys can sort her.

there at least 3 ways in which dunn cld have fucked town over and he didn't do any of them. if he was doing this as scum then I think he has made it unnecessarily hard for himself.

I really wished I wld have reached out to spyrella, I just had something different in mind for him. I think you can trust desperado, and I think you will like him.

don't let nacho slide.

I agree with absolutely all of this.

[Papa Zito]

Yes let's ignore the insanity and go with gut.


zzz

[Papa Zito]

Speaking of which dunn, I'd be willing to join you on staeg but it doesn't seem to have enough support.

Why are you interested in Staeg?

[Papa Zito]

Speaking of which dunn, I'd be willing to join you on staeg but it doesn't seem to have enough support.

Why are you interested in Staeg?

Because I don't like his reasons for voting me, I don't like a lot of the thing he's been focused on, and his posts are kind of empty. Town posting usually has more of a voice.

sigh

Ok, time to unpack.

1. Which of his reasons do you take issue with and why
2. What things are he focused on and why don't you like them
3. Can you give examples of his "empty posts"

[Papa Zito]

gawd

and I swear you owed someone else a bigass explanation of something or other already

[Papa Zito]

Oh that's right.


I've been putting off an Infinity iso because I know it's gonna hurt deep inside but I'll do that at lunch.

[Papa Zito]

welcome to dreamer plz enjoy your stay

[Papa Zito]

Yes selfmeta is extremely reliable RC don't you know anything

[Papa Zito]

I'll "talk shit" aka "point out the inherent stupidity of" anyone who attempts to use selfmeta as a defense. Standard meta ('you did X in some other game and you're sort of doing it here so SCUM kekekkeekeke') is bad enough, applied meta ('I do X when I'm scum and you're sort of doing it here so SCUM kekeekekekekke') is the next level of awful but the very worst sinners of meta hell and the ones who attempt to self meta ('I only do X when I'm scum and I'm not doing it here lalalalal'). Get out of here with that nonsense.

[Papa Zito]

Unofficial Vote Count

Nachomamma8 (1): RedCoyote
camntsuki (0):
drealmerz7 (4): Nachomamma8, pirate mollie, Papa Zito, Infinity 324
Papa Zito (1): Kagami
Infinity 324 (5): camntsuki, Staeg, Nahdia, drealmerz7, Desperado
Staeg (1): Dunnstral
Desperado (0):

Not Voting:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

This VC will probably be important later.

[Papa Zito]

I'm not going to vote Infinity for being a lurker, fyi

Infinity has 183 posts. :3

[Papa Zito]

Deadline: January 21st, 11am EST

[Papa Zito]

I'll save you some time RC. What do you think of this post:

Now that you're all finally tapped out, I can begin (kagami aside who is totally fine and obvitown.) I waited and waited until there was nothing left for most of you to talk about because I felt otherwise I simply would not be believed and would get drawn into it all which is exactly what I did not want to happen (it started to happen at the beginning of the game and there was no preventing it...will get to that...) This way I'm able to not be a factor as much as it seemed I was becoming (and still am, sure, but, I think it'll make sense as we go through...)

Please bear with me. I have a lot notes and scattered thoughts and I will probably repeat things that I've said because I have cross-over notes and not sure what is fully where, I've done my best at trying to keep it coherent for you all.

Spoiler: it begins

The FIRST thing you all need to know and believe is that I have ABSOLUTELY NO SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE about ANYTHING game/mechanical related AT ALL as has been drawn to appear that I do. Absolutely not a thing. There were no "softs", I was not hinting at a single thing related to anything. ALL I ever did was use the flavor that was provided for ALL by Fate in the public game thread. I don't know anything about orb pieces or anything (other than what I've read from the rest of you.) I FUCKING HATE HAVING TO CLAIM THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ORB PIECE BECASE. But, there you go. You all fucking think I have one. I don't!!! If you are town you NEED TO ADJUST YOUR READS ACCORDINGLY RIGHT NOW!!! Seriously. Look:

...
“The day that you find this orb you will no longer be

seekers

. I wonder if you will be able to face that fear.

I wonder if you will have the courage to stare into where the True orb resides….”

seek

find

question (seek)

I took that from flavor and made a post to sound philosophical/profound because I treat a lot of mafia games like we are on a quest for Truth together. This just all fits and is how I was approaching the game to start, getting "into it." THIS IS THE TRUTH and you HAVE to believe me. Tell me what I need to do to convince you if you don't believe me.

IT HAS TO HAPPEN ALL FELLOW TOWNIES MUST BELIEVE THIS!

Spoiler: more "soft stuff"

The idea starts early and grows quickly in my head that dunnstral is simply trying to make it seem like I know something when I don't so he can use it to his advantage later, but I just don't know. I elaborate on that a little somewhere else.

I simply say this (spiritual realm/astral plane type stuff that I have basic knowledge of):

anyone know what ayahuasca is?

Nice soft

and he uses it to insist I'm softing - I don't even know what that is supposed to be a soft of!!!

I bet drealmerz thinks he's witty, clever, and secretive

But you're not. The rest of us know

exactly

what you're talking about. You know what you must do. As do I.

that comes after the Alex Grey paintingpic I post and say "we must combine our minds to see True". I picked that one because it is a joining of the minds to see clarity sort of picture (to put it very simply right now) - again, had I any conception that there's anything about actually joining orbs mechanics wise I would have never been saying anything like this. If there is orb combining stuff in the game, I bet Fate is having AFUCKING BLAST with all of this. But then, I think so is dunnstral, and it reads to me that he is manipulating it all to his purposes as far as I can see. He and nacho working together I think?

On top of that, a lot of people sure are talking about the thing you're not supposed to talk about.

staeg shows special knowledge as well - he's either scum with the shared knowledge or an individual with special knowledge - if town THIS IS WHY WHAT DUNN IS DOING WITH CLAIMING THE SOFTING (which is ALL him as I see it), drawing information out of others. I HATE IT. This is why I've been MIA. I just...I am in a really tough spot, not knowing what to do, who to trust, or anything. IT'S FUCKED. and it's dunnstral to blame. He should be lynched if not infinity, who is his "BUDDY" (which he called him multiple times I won't even get to that stuff in this post.)

for real though stop softing because we know what you're talking about

what?!?!? this came after this:

individuals would be wise to not leave their trash scattered about the plane

I'm talking about all the cluttering of the thread with pointless multiple string posts of small snippets is all, seriously.

then there's:

Infinity wagon is good but dunnstral votes are better.

To elaborate on this: dunny's play is inconsistent with information available to the town role he's softed.

gives me good feelings about staeg

Now, I since I don't know whether dunnstral is town or scum (I'm pretty sure scum), I'm going to go down both paths and see where they lead.

If he's town he's done a horrible thing, imo, thinking he knows best and trying to control the situation because of that- like he has some knowledge / a piece of the orb and wants to be in charge, and if that is the case I think it has gone HORRIBLY and scum has so much information because of him, he's almost a PL due to being so anti-town. Dunnstral has pulled me into something from the beginning of this game and it has been beyond my willpower/ability to stop it. I tried a couple times and quickly noticed that everything was starting to go how he wanted and so I completely disengaged because 1.) he is wrong about me and I can't seem to convince him or others otherwise and engaging it was likely to not go well or 2.) he's scum trying to draw me into his shit and make it seem like #1 and if that is the case I thought (still think) my best course of action was to disengage so he couldn't use me as a piece in whatever game he is playing.

On D1 he defends me and I find it SUPER SUPER odd, but I don't know what it is about at the time. Now with the outing of everything my read is he just wants to NK me and get the orb piece? I didn't die. Spyrex did something to SAD...I don't know. My brain is really all over the place because I don't KNOW what to think. All I know is that you all need to believe me and work withme to work through all of this to get it NO LONGER ASKEW. There is soooo much through the thread based on all of this. PM, I think you are ON IT and I trust you to do correctly with it all.

I think Nacho is scum, I think dunn is scum, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on. Dunn+Infinity+? Nacho+Kagami+?

I REALLY TRIED to stop things from the beginning by saying I WAS NOT SOFTING ANYTHING AND NEVER WOULD DO THAT!!! ANYONE who has meta with me (nacho, spyr, dunn, nahdia) MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT be able to attest to this for me? But I don't know, and obviously any of them could lie (total TR on spyr though he is totally town fucking all of you GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR - camnstuki seriously me too I played game with him recently completed wordplay mafia and I'm quite sure his slot is town here :\ let's just drop that now though?)

So this whole time I don't know what to do, so I've been letting it lay and watch where it goes and grows until it was seemingly OVER WITH. Thank you all for your patience.

I can address other stuff later but I think we should tackle this now? Should I talk about the nacho SR on me or wait? (I don't feel bullied by him at all, omg so many things...love you nacho, but you're scum, and I've been on you since the GO and you want to remove me! especially now since you think I may have an orb piece?)

EVERYONE! Ask me questions and let's get into it. I am here now and we are a GO for game-solving.

did a refresh and fine. I'll hit submit

[Papa Zito]

rofl

[Papa Zito]

I'm saying that I think he knew about the orbs

uh oh

[Papa Zito]

sigh

please see

(kagami aside who is totally fine and obvitown.)

I think Nacho is scum, I think dunn is scum, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on. Dunn+Infinity+? Nacho+Kagami+?

how did you manage this in the space of a single post

(we requested his thought process here and still haven't gotten it)


And then the bananas conversation starting from here:

I think Nacho is scum, I think dunn is scum, they might be scum together or it might be multiball is more likely by the look of the associations going on. Dunn+Infinity+? Nacho+Kagami+?

wtf are people trying to push the vote on staeg? that looks way fishy

infinity, zito, nacho, are the best options today from what I see

What.

VOTE: drealmerz7

[Papa Zito]

I don't have objections per se but I'd like to know what he's being lynched for.

[Papa Zito]

I don't have objections per se but I'd like to know what he's being lynched for.

[Papa Zito]

Now I'm sick yay.

But worse, I don't like how he votes and immediately tries to paint the action as something he wouldn't do as scum, mlem mlem; there's no reason scum!Infinity would be afraid to naked vote a replacement whether he's under pressure or not, mlem mlem.

Maybe it's cuz my brain has shut down but I don't understand this sentence, can you help me out.

[Papa Zito]

Hello catching up.

[Papa Zito]

Wow stuff happened.

I want a claim from papa zito.

I'm a Priest, a Turtle Mystic. I held the Talisman of Protection, a holy relic of the "Lord on High". I explained the talisman before. Picture is hand-drawn, looks like a standard Catholic priest: red cap, red sash, black robes, big golden cross. No passives, no actives other than being able to pass the talisman on.

I feel rather lost since I'm not in any of these neighborhoods. I will add, Nacho was the only one who bothered answering my question yesterday asking

why

we were lynching infinity, which to me made him the towniest person on that wagon to me. I also don't understand why you hold a vig shot to Day 3.

[Papa Zito]

It's a damn good thing you were a scum counterwagon yesterday because it's bad posts like these that make me just itch to lynch you.

Saying I'm lost cuz half the game is being played in places I can't access isn't being safe. I'm certainly not desperate, good lord.

[Papa Zito]

Also to be frank, having to deal with a bunch of people call me out as scummy without ever providing anything to respond to, finding out they were stupid enough to lynch me when I wasn't around and didn't even bother providing something I could defend myself against even if I had been, losing my one ability to make a real impact on the game, and then having SpyreX replace out has really sapped my enthusiasm. We're at the magical infofairies stage and I'm basically a VT at this point so I'm just letting you guys do whatever and I'll help vote things. But don't expect a shitload of content from me especially when I'm having to deal with Dreal "I Can't Spell Dream Right" Sanchez and his period lapses into the abyss of stupidity that now by the grace of God are aimed my way.

[Papa Zito]

I'll go cry in a corner now

later

[Papa Zito]

You guys are forgetting that kagami gave the piece I gave her to nacho; there wouldn't be a reason to do that and then have a teammate shoot him without him having claimed the piece

then can you explain the rest of her play? and nacho only got a fragment, not the whole thing. and kagami is not wondering why.

Wait, now I'm confused. You mentioned this above too. I thought there were 4 orbs, one for each element/compass direction. Like there's a western fire orb and a northern water orb or whatever. Is it actually like, there's a fire orb with N-E-S-W pieces?

[Papa Zito]

my question to you is, what do you think about rc's shot? also have you looked at your d1 wagon and done any analysis on it? I wld really like to hear your thoughts on both.

I talked about the shot a little bit. I both question the target (as I mentioned, nacho seemed most townie on that wagon yesterday because he could actually articulate reasons for being on it that made sense) and the timing (why would you hold a limited use power to day 3 when you could get NKed with it in your pocket).

I have looked at my D1 wagon. If you look at my interactions yesterday you'll see a pattern.

[Papa Zito]

no

Then I don't get what's meant by a fragment.

[Papa Zito]

uh

Why would you block Desp?

also

Why would you come out voting me if you blocked Desp and there was no kill?

[Papa Zito]

mollie can you get me into the cool kids club plz

[Papa Zito]

PZ - I voted you because I think you are scum and think you make sense to lynch today

Well gosh it's p hard to argue with this mountain of evidence.

I think it's

really weird

that you'd basically ignore what, from your perspective, is very solid evidence pointing to Desp=scum,

especially

when you just talked about how you suspect him cuz of this roleblocker business, but vote me instead.

[Papa Zito]

Location: earth

this is becoming less and less likely

[Papa Zito]

My purpose in every game is to have a good time.

dreamer my problem with you is that your game makes absolutely no fucking sense no matter which angle I look at it. The only real concrete thing I have for you is that you were infinity's counterwagon which is a big check on the town side of the scales but my problem is the there's a thousand small checks on the other side. The continued nonsense just makes me want to remove the noise from the game.

[Papa Zito]

so you want everyone's information but are not willing to share your own until you get every last piece, is that about right, PM?

gee, that seems like what scum would want to do

good lord almighty

[Papa Zito]

The irony.

[Papa Zito]

I have no issues reporting you if you decide to go down that track.

There's no "shitposting" happening here. I'm pointing out that you're throwing shade at Mollie who's clearly trying to gamesolve.

[Papa Zito]

This is like arguing with karnos.

[Papa Zito]

Except more caps.

[Papa Zito]

every fucking time, zito, I'm pointing out every single one of your stupid-shit-talking-shitposts of nothingness that shows you don't know shit about dick about mafia

It's only game. Why you heff to be mad?

[Papa Zito]

She asked for your full role.

[Papa Zito]

Can we get your full role now.

[Papa Zito]

no, I'm a roleblocker

what else do you want?

your full role

[Papa Zito]

Like I don't know how else to ask for your full role than by asking for your full role.

[Papa Zito]

I want a claim from papa zito.

I'm a Priest, a Turtle Mystic. I held the Talisman of Protection, a holy relic of the "Lord on High". I explained the talisman before. Picture is hand-drawn, looks like a standard Catholic priest: red cap, red sash, black robes, big golden cross. No passives, no actives other than being able to pass the talisman on.

maybe an example will help

[Papa Zito]

ok I'm done

VOTE: dreamer

At this point with all this dancing around and moonbeams role spec I'm pretty sure you targeted Desperado to intercept the orb not to "roleblock" him.

[Papa Zito]

I am part of BaM it's true.

[Papa Zito]

uh FTR I had SpyreX as a solid townread and Desperado has done nothing to change that

[Papa Zito]

Well you seem to be acting like these are universal truths so I figured I'd set the record straight.

[Papa Zito]

He refuses to claim his flavor Mollie because he's not at L-1. No that doesn't make any sense but that's what he said.

I don't wanna do associations until I see flips and wagons and etc.

[Papa Zito]

well that's random

[Papa Zito]

gawd I feel so out of the loop

Is there a specific issue that makes voting Staeg here make sense in light of the Mystery of the Missing Orb (totally a Hardy Boys novel) and dreamer's continued spiral into depraved lunacy?

[Papa Zito]

@Fate give us one anyway.

@Mollie an SK doesn't make sense given lack of NKs. However I have been chewing on the possibility that there's a 3rd party role who wants to gather the orbs. A vote stealer role in that case would make a ton of sense.

Also I'm fine believing you about Nahdia for now.

[Papa Zito]

I guess I could write that opening Day scene with some flavors if anyones interested

you gotta earn that GOTY man

[Papa Zito]

oh is it opposite day again?

[Papa Zito]

Mollie if your Nahdia read isn't role shenanigans then can you explain it to me because I don't share it in the least.

[Papa Zito]

eta: also why have they not stolen anything until now? that does not fully explain the missing orb.

Well now we're going off the speculatory deep end but in theory a "thief" would probably have to target someone receiving an orb to catch it in transit. Last night it looks like the target was obvious; previous nights I'd hazard were less so.

Or it could work that the thief acts before the transfer and targeted Kagami.

Or maybe Desperado did receive it but the thief targeted him and took the last one received.

I dunno, there's a lot of ways it could work.

You are right about one thing, Occam's Razor suggests that Kagami never sent the orb to begin with. There's no town reason for that (lack of) action so that would certainly point to Kagami scum. However that doesn't explain why Kagami passed orb(s) before hand - why not just hang onto them if she's scum and the scum want to collect orbs? Infinity had one as well and I don't think anyone passed it to him, which means for Kagami to be scum they'd have started with TWO of them and yet they let Infinity hold one to one of them and Kagami pass on another. It doesn't make much sense. This is where I start scratching my head and looking at alternative explanations. Bear in mind I can't see your QT so I have no idea what's being said there, only that you don't like it.

[Papa Zito]

Mollie if your Nahdia read isn't role shenanigans then can you explain it to me because I don't share it in the least.

im town, punk.

oh well ok then

[Papa Zito]

I want a claim from papa zito.

I'm a Priest, a Turtle Mystic. I held the Talisman of Protection, a holy relic of the "Lord on High". I explained the talisman before. Picture is hand-drawn, looks like a standard Catholic priest: red cap, red sash, black robes, big golden cross. No passives, no actives other than being able to pass the talisman on.

maybe an example will help

[Papa Zito]

It's not too late to lynch this guy

[Papa Zito]

I gave her two total this game

The one I started with (fire) and the one I got from Infinity (Air)

And Kagami started with Earth


Who started with water?

So for Kagami to be scum, they would have started with Earth and Air, received both the other two orbs, but decided not to combine them and passed along at least Earth and Fire.

That makes 0 sense.

You know what actually makes sense? Dunn is scum and is lying about not receiving the orb.

[Papa Zito]

You know what actually makes sense? Dunn is scum and is lying about not receiving the orb.

This should say Desperado not Dunn woops.

[Papa Zito]

Ya it makes the most sense that no one has died twice in a row, and I was doc protected twice in a row, but I'm the one lying here

are you fucking serious bro

You were roleblocked last night.

[Papa Zito]

STAEG DIES TODAY THOUGH NO QUESTIONS ASKED. WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BREAK THIS GAME OPEN

...

@Mollie do you trust this y/n?

[Papa Zito]

I've barely been here because we've been lynching on monday/tuesday and opening the thread on thursday/friday.

I simply can't post much on weekends.

That's a huge scumtell this game didn't you know?

[Papa Zito]

Shrug. I attempt to engage people and I don't get much back except "hey we gotta lynch him soon". So mild concern all you want there cowboy.

[Papa Zito]

that'd be nice cuz you two seem super at odds (yet somehow that isn't getting addressed)

[Papa Zito]

that sounds good to me!!!

PM after zito!

this seriously can't get anywhere near lylo

[Papa Zito]

uh

[Papa Zito]

[Papa Zito]

STAEG DIES TODAY THOUGH NO QUESTIONS ASKED. WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BREAK THIS GAME OPEN

...

@Mollie do you trust this y/n?

[Papa Zito]

are you asking me if I trust them or do I trust that they have enough info to blow the game open?

Either or both. I don't trust that slot at all, I'm a bit bewildered that nobody is pushing it, but I'm also tempted by the notion that the game is solvable. I think you're town in this game and you have access to more information than I do so I'm willing to follow your lead.

you lost me when you started townreading kagami for the reasons you gave.

I understand you have some sort of personal issue with Kagami that's super unclear because neither of you can even agree on what the fundamental problem is and I can't read the source material myself. The confirmed info I have on Kagami is the orb passing which I've gone over already and the ability to created neighborhoods which is whatever. I don't understand why one scum would hold orbs and another pass them - that doesn't make sense from a team-working-together perspective. I don't understand why the scum team would be passing any orbs at all when gathering them seems to be a thing. I also don't understand why infinity would hang onto his orb when he was under threat instead of handing it off to Kagami who wasn't. (this is another quiet reason I'd like to see dreamer hang btw)

I am thinking that it is you and staeg. usually scum don't burn bridges in the way that camn and kagami are doing. when there is this level of ill will it is usually tvt. given enough time fences are usually mended. usually. when its svt then that the bridge is usually burnt beyond repair. there is not coming back from it.

I don't understand why I've been linked with Staeg. At all. Then again, I also don't understand why I'm being scumread, primarily because nobody will bother giving a reason and instead just repeat my name over and over. (this should be a giant red flag but /shrug) If you can articulate a reason for this scumread I'd be glad to talk about it. If you can't that's a signal for you to re-evaluate.

[Papa Zito]

Are you talking about the orb going missing or something else.

[Papa Zito]

I'll take that as a something else.

[Papa Zito]

I am thinking that they are town based on the reasons that I have already laid out. twice.

This isn't at all clear based on your iso fyi. But I got my answer so ok.

I

really

don't like you trying to trivialize my game relevant concerns with her by marginalizing them and calling them personal I really don't.

You're claiming Kagami isn't reading your posts. Kagami claims she is. What conclusion am I supposed to draw here? Again, without access to the source I have 0 way to judge any of this for myself. I asked Kagami to paraphrase what's in your chat as a method of indirect access

so I can do this

but she has yet to do so. Beyond that there's nothing I can do or say on this topic. So instead in regards to Kagami I must rely on the evidence I have in the game thread.

gee.....why on earth wld scum!kagami give away the orbs only to have scum!infinity to hold onto his? to me the answer is super simple: to allow them to accumulate in town's hands and then nk them. easiest way to get all of the orbs in scum's hands while appearing very town in the process.

That narrative, again, doesn't make any sense. If the point of giving away the orbs was to gain town cred why oh why wouldn't infinity do the same? Infinity clearly could have used some town cred amirite? I also don't buy the NK bit given A) protective roles; B) investigative roles; C) town trading.

The logic here is simple.

Given: Passing an orb = town cred
Given: Infinity started the game with an orb (yes? nobody's disputed this)
Given: Infinity needed town cred
Given: Infinity was lynched with an orb in his possession

Therefore: Infinity had some incentive to keep his orb that was greater than his incentive to gain town cred

The only incentive I can think of here is to gather all the orbs together. This makes Kagami likely town for passing along not one but

two

orbs.

you are linked with staeg cos the 2 of you are scum by poe. I agree with nahdia in this.

Shrug. I can't do anything about PoE but I question the hell out of it given we don't have any clears.

I think your lynch will clarify a lot of things for a lot of pple.

Really? When I flip town what exactly is going to be clarified?

[Papa Zito]

I think the 2 players you shld be talking to are kagami and camn. ask them if they still have you as scum. if so why.

I think that wld be a lot more productive and a lot more beneficial than arguing with me, who for the most part doesn't want you lynched except that poe points to you.

Kagami has me as town last I looked. I don't feel any particular need to talk to Kagami for reasons stated. I also see her attempting to gamesolve which I don't feel the need to interfere with. Anyway we clearly see that slot differently which is fine but I'm not gonna support a wagon there (hello Staeg).

I already know Camn has me as scum yes. If I try to ask why I will get snark. I don't really feel inclined to listen to snark. And if the reason is just PoE again I dunno what that accomplishes.

I'm basically talking to you cuz you're the only one really willing to play the game with me.

[Papa Zito]

your thin justification for jumping on our wagon day 1 still rings in my ears, for one.

Say more words.

[Papa Zito]

No more words. Ok.

your lack of any real offense this game for two.
except your game-long tunnel on dreamerz, of course. that's easy.

This has been explained. Insert mollie-style rant here.

[Papa Zito]

Ok.


Staeg - I don't like his claim. Not the claim itself, the claim is weird and funky and I can imagine Fate creating something like this. What I don't like is the claimed absolute lack of trying to do anything with it. That bit rings very false. Playwise Staeg has had very little impact.
Desperado - I had a pretty firm townread on SpyreX which Desperado has inherited. My problem with Desp's play is that it's been more geared towards acquiring orbs than actually doing things (unless ofc these things are done behind closed doors). The doctor-clear is tainted by a roleblock. The orb mystery abounds.
pirate mollie - I see you open and engaged and trying to gamesolve. I have no issues with your slot.
camntsuki (camn + Katsuki) - Like I said I don't really understand why so many people townread this. Despite protests to the contrary they really haven't done much that I've been privy to and I didn't like Day 1 at all.
drealmerz7 - Nothing about dreamer's play makes a lick of sense and he needs to die before we get anywhere near endgame.
Nahdia - The only point in Nahdia's favor currently is her un-CC'd doctor claim, but it's a big one. I'd usually value this less but we have missing NKs.
Kagami - I've already talked about Kagami extensively
Dunnstral - Actually I need to review this slot because I don't remember what he's done. Effort required tho.

tl;dr

Town - Mollie, Nahdia, Kagami
Ok - Desperado
Lynch - Staeg, camn
Tbd - Dunn
No - dreamer

[Papa Zito]

I'm not as dumb as I look

can we put this on his tombstone

[Papa Zito]

If you really thought I was lynchproof you wouldn't be trying to lynch me now.

[Papa Zito]

got'em

[Papa Zito]

nope

[Papa Zito]

Alright.

VOTE: Staeg

[Papa Zito]

I don't see any reason not to move my vote if we've got magical infofairies finally delivering.

I don't have any PTs.

[Papa Zito]

What? I can't hammer since I'm on the wagon. I'm also not going to demand a claim from them.

[Papa Zito]

Kagami can you answer whatever Mollie is asking plz.

[Papa Zito]

What do you think Mollie is asking, zito?

I thought it was just about PTs but apparently it was much more than that.

I am as always out of the loop.

[Papa Zito]

WE HAVE ROLE RELATED REASONS FOR BELIEVING THAT STAEG IS SCUM WE'LL CLAIM AT A LATER JUNCTURE BUT NOT TODAY SINCE YOU GUYS ALREADY LOLOUTTED NAHDIA

So let's talk about this then.

[Papa Zito]

?

[Papa Zito]

Is this the same kind of guilty that camnhydra had?

[Papa Zito]

I feel like I'm getting railroaded here but ok.

VOTE: Kagami

[Papa Zito]

Desp should hammer.

You wouldn't happen to know the rest of his results would you?

[Papa Zito]

Also is there some way to avoid you getting silenced like this tomorrow?

[Papa Zito]

wtf is happening in this game

Anyway a camntsuki wagon? Finally? Hell yeah sign me up.

VOTE: camntsuki

[Papa Zito]

wait

[Papa Zito]

How can you be town with that fake guilty on our cop?

[Papa Zito]

ayy I lived gg friends

[Papa Zito]

Dead thread was a good read.

[Papa Zito]

A lot of people were right on Zito.

And yet.

[Papa Zito]

It does! It made our actions unblockable. That combined with my stillness power was a pretty good combo.

[Papa Zito]

^ now here's a wagon I can get behind