you game reasons are bad. I didn't vote someone that others didnt vote either. And I tried to prevent the mislynch on key but you think im scum for not voting someone and voting scum too quicklyIn post 1089, TwoFace wrote:In post 1087, gerryoat wrote:I'm being facetious because your reason for voting me is that bad. I've shown this game that if you have a decent reason for scumreading me, I won't automatically think you're scum. But your reason is awfulPot meet kettle.In post 1065, gerryoat wrote:I don't even care if he's scum or not anymore. He prob is scum and trying to copy his attitude from last time. But we have a better chance winning with him in the GY and not grudge voting if he's town.
Except that my reasons don't suck at all.
You're voting me thinking I'm trying to copy my attitude form another game and you also want to PL me.
I'm voting you for actual game related reasons aka not wanting to vote scum day 1 and ending day 2 early when people said there was no need to rush.
My reasons > you're reasons.
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Yes Twofaced, answer this. since you say I "picked up" on him being PRIn post 1099, Gamma Emerald wrote:What PR tells were in Dave's ISO?-
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Pretty much how every other pr seems to play. Not as helpful as they should be, not scum hunting like they should be, kinda laying low as best as they canIn post 1099, Gamma Emerald wrote:What PR tells were in Dave's ISO?-
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bullshitIn post 1102, TwoFace wrote:
Pretty much how every other pr seems to play. Not as helpful as they should be, not scum hunting like they should be, kinda laying low as best as they canIn post 1099, Gamma Emerald wrote:What PR tells were in Dave's ISO?-
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JarJar comes across as town for the most part. Aside fron the fact he's too defensive considering I only lumped him into a group off possibilities based on incomplete ISOs.
As for my ISO's..they are what they are. It's how I do them regardles of my alignment. Scum in most cases aren't going to hand you their alignment on a silver platter. And town aren't trying to do scummy shit on purpose. So when I read through an ISO I get a town or scum feel from certain posts and when my ISO is over...it's usually a consolidation of those feels that directs me. You came up with a shitload of reasons why keyen was scum. How'd that work out for you? Check out your ISO 82. Not everyone gets it right and not everyone who votes or says you are possibly scum are scum. You need thicker skin.
Right now I would say from town to scum my reads are JJD-LUV................GreyICE and gerry. With 2Face tbd.
Speaking of 2Face....JJD, can you elaborate on why he is a townread outside of the fact he posts a lot?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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can you explain why you think gerry is townIn post 1106, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think these two might be town but I'm not sure yet
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people still think defensiveness is bad/scummy?In post 1107, havingfitz wrote:Aside fron the fact he's too defensive-
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not to mention that I wasn't being defensive. I was just calling his reads shit.In post 1109, TwoFace wrote:
people still think defensiveness is bad/scummy?In post 1107, havingfitz wrote:Aside fron the fact he's too defensive-
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And this is a misrep. I never said or implied that 2F is a TR cause he posts alot.In post 1107, havingfitz wrote:Speaking of 2Face....JJD, can you elaborate on why he is a townread outside of the fact he posts a lot?
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coming from somebody who just iso'd you, that was a weird question/misrep. He should have seen thatIn post 1111, JarJarDrinks wrote:
And this is a misrep. I never said or implied that 2F is a TR cause he posts alot.In post 1107, havingfitz wrote:Speaking of 2Face....JJD, can you elaborate on why he is a townread outside of the fact he posts a lot?
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Thought I had posted this earlier this morning but apparently not.
@2face...wrt 1109...what does whether you think defensiveness is good or bad matter? It's not affecting my read on JJD. I only mention it
because his reaction towards me for just lumping him in a pool of scum candidates seemed excessive given he had barely mentioned Vij/me in
this game, certainly not as a suspect. This was on top of his reaction to Gamma voting him. An immediate vote in return on Gamma
with reasoning that had some merit but was a fail to elimate/discredit. (See my comments on his ISO 53).
@JJD...wrt 1110...I disagree...see comments above. That someone who is unsure of your alignment would not rule you out as scum without a
closer look and get the incredulous reaction you are giving is totally defensive on your part. I mean...if you are so incredibly obviously
town...why are you still here?
@JJD...wrt 1111...That's how I interpreted your town read on 2Face. It's not a misrep. When I see "appear to be trying" in reference to
the most active player in the game in contrast to "just sitting around" in reference to the players you have been up for voting
today: the Gear slot, LUV and now me who are all the least active posters. In fact, you've basically expressed a willingness today to
lynch anyone not named 2Face. If you are town how is that the only person you aren't willing to vote after 44+ pages is your "slight town
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It's more of a poe thing than anything in particular that you did wrong. Though one thing that does come to mind without looking back over my ISO of you that I know I did/do not care for was the way you handled the Grey lynch and subsequent explanation. After reading LUV, Gear and JJD I found them more town than you.In post 1114, gerryoat wrote:Havingfitz, I don't see anything from your ISO that would lead you to believe to make me your top scumread. Especially when I was your TR
I will be posting my TwoFace ISO thoughts tomorrow morning ...I'm done but I still need to summarize. I will say he is still a suspect for me which is problematic for my other reads because I don't see the two of you being scum together. Which might bump someone else ahead of one of you. I also want to look over Grey's ISO.
Is anyone else doing anything btw? LUV? Gamma...I know you are not mafia at least...any thoughts on who is? Where did GreyICE go?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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Uh your post clearly indicates your read is affected by it though.In post 1115, havingfitz wrote:does whether you think defensiveness is good or bad matter? It's not affecting my read on JJD. I only mention it
This implies if he wasn't defensive he'd be a stronger town read.In post 1107, havingfitz wrote:JarJar comes across as town for the most part. Aside fron the fact he's too defensive-
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Summary...TwoFace was right! I suspect him the most. All of the lines in his ISO that I find suspect are highlighted in red or just black.
In short...I suspect TwoFace for tunneling keyen all D1 despite acknowledging that his vote on keyen was opportunistic and that his case on him was weak. That there were no better alternatives to keyen despite a solid effort by JJD towards Gamma; and Tywin, who he had prior to this claimed to have caught in a lie. Wouldn't catching someone in a lie warrant a vote to L-4 more than someone whose case you said was weak and only at L-5?
Additionally I just find him almost completely ignorant of Grey's existence until Grey is at L-2. Then all of a sudden he is ok with lynching Grey. But wait! A claim! Let's just stick with the weak opportunistic keyen wagon. Followed immediately by a vote on the weak opportunistic keyen wagon by Grey... who you are also ok lynching... whose claim you do not believe and you claim is caught scum? So why not pass on keyen and go for the sure thing...the caught scum whose claim you do not believe (i.e. Grey)? Or the liar (Tywin)?
I also do not think TwoFace and gerry would be a likely scum pairing. So gerry moves up a little on my town list. Gear/GreyICE take his place.
TwoFace or GreyICE are the only two I will vote today.
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