Mini 521 (SMSM, Ended)

[Simenon]

Adele put me on ignore.

?

What do you mean? Do you feel I ignored you? What? Where?

I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

Why did you think there was a purpose to the subgames before the subgame started and then later change your mind?

[mith]

Voting Phase Results:

Lists:

Condorcet link.

1,Adele
2,Fiasco
3,kabenon007
4,Max
5,PookyTheMagicalBear
6,ryan
7,Sammich
8,Sarcastro
9,Xdaamno

5>4>3>6>2>7>9>8>1 #Adele
3>4>6>7>9>8>2>1>5 #DrippingGoofball
5>8>4>1>7>9>6>3>2 #Fiasco
1>5>2>7>8>4=6=9>3 #kabenon007
5>2>8>6>3>9>7>1>4 #Max
2>8>7>1>6>4>3>9>5 #PookyTheMagicalBear
8>5>1>4>3>7>2>9>6 #ryan
1=2=3=4=5=6=7=8=9 #Sammich
4>2>7>6>9>3>5>1>8 #Sarcastro
7>4>6>1>8>9>3>2>5 #SomeStrangeSimenon
5>4>6>3>7>9>2>8>1 #WaterboyWaldo
7>5>8>4>2>3>1>6>9 #Xdaamno

First Elimination: PookyTheMagicalBear

Second Elimination: No Condorcet Winner. Smith Set: Fiasco, kabenon007, Max, ryan, Sammich, Sarcastro.

Instant Runoff Voting, first count: Fiasco (3), kabenon007 (1), Max (3), ryan (0), Sammich (2), Sarcastro (2) - ryan removed.

Second count: Fiasco (3), kabenon007 (1), Max (3), Sammich (2), Sarcastro (2) - kabenon007 removed.

Third count: Fiasco (3), Max (4), Sammich (2), Sarcastro (2) - tiebreak Sammich beats Sarcastro pairwise, Sarcastro removed.

Fourth count: Fiasco (3), Max (6), Sammich (2).

Second Elimination:

Max

Mafia Kill:

DrippingGoofball

PookyTheMagicalBear (Townie), Max (Townie), and DrippingGoofball (Townie) have been meta-eliminated.

I'll allow 24 hours for further discussion, as I'm not going to be able to get the next subgame started until tomorrow.

[Simenon]

Dear god, you people are all complete idiots.

I'm pretty sure Adele and Fiasco are metascum for obvious reasons.

[ryan]

Dear god, you people are all complete idiots.

Wow, I don't know why anyone wouldn't follow you after that

[Xdaamno]

So if Pooky is town, I feel his theories etc deserve another once-over, which I'll hope to achieve sometimes in the next

day

week

year

sometime.

[Simenon]

Actually, I'm sorry if anyone was put off by that. But look at the results yourself to see the source of my frustration.

[Fiasco]

If anyone wants me to reply to Pooky's latest post I'll do so. Some of it was a misunderstanding as to what I was trying to say.

[Xdaamno]

Actually, I'm sorry if anyone was put off by that. But look at the results yourself to see the source of my frustration.

The results of the voting? I'm not quite following :/

Though, apparently Fiasco knows what you're talking about, so I'd encourage him to respond, yeah.

[ryan]

Xdaamno: I 2nd your now following the results post

[kabenon007]

Well, I was all for Adele.

[Adele]

I'm pretty sure Adele and Fiasco are metascum for obvious reasons.

Well, I was all for Adele.

That's unexpected. My participation hasn't been glowing - I recognise that - and I disagreed with some people about the most sensible course of action to take, especially about whether the first game should be manipulated for a particular result or played out for later information. But I don't think I harmed the metatown with my actions, or that my approach was absurd or unjustified.

I'll spend some time this weekend trawling for accusations against me and answering them.

[mith]

Subgame 1: C9 +2 with a slice of Pie

Role Selection

Like with C9, the setup will be chosen at random from four options, with equal probability. The possibile setups are:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Cop, Doctor, 5 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Cop, 6 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Doctor, 6 Townies
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, 7 Townies

Notes:

No role can target itself.

Last team standing wins.

Sample Role PMs

Mafia Win Condition

You win when all non-Mafia are dead, and at least one Mafia member is alive.

Town Win Condition

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, and at least one innocent is alive.

Mafia

You are in the Mafia with [PARTNER GOES HERE]. Each night, you may communicate with your partner and choose one player to kill.

Mafia Blocker

You are also the Roleblocker. Each night, you may block another player.

Townie

You are a Townie. You have no night abilities.

Cop

You are a Cop. Each night, you may choose another player to investigate. You will be told whether they are "guilty" or "innocent".

Doctor

You are a Doctor. Each night, you may choose another player to protect from the Mafia's kill.

[mith]

(Scene to be added.)

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Roles have been sent. It is Day 1, 5 to lynch.

[Xdaamno]

Ah, I really like this setup.

Vote: Fiasco

[mikeburnfire]

Like with C9, the setup will be chosen at random from four options, with equal probability. The possibile setups are:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Cop, Doctor, 5 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Cop, 6 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Doctor, 6 Townies
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, 7 Townies

WaterboyWaldo here.

That last setup has a mafia roleblocker with nobody to block. Seems stupid to me. And I don't know about you, but I think I think the Cop only setup is better than the Cop and Doc setup, due to the lack of Mafiablocker.

[ryan]

Vote: Fiasco

I'm all about the bandwagon

[SomeStrangeSimenon]

Vote Adele

Like with C9, the setup will be chosen at random from four options, with equal probability. The possibile setups are:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Cop, Doctor, 5 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Cop, 6 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Doctor, 6 Townies
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, 7 Townies

WaterboyWaldo here.

That last setup has a mafia roleblocker with nobody to block. Seems stupid to me. And I don't know about you, but I think I think the Cop only setup is better than the Cop and Doc setup, due to the lack of Mafiablocker.

Not quite sure what you want from this post.
-Sim.

[Fiasco]

Scum have more setup knowledge here than in C9, which is bad.

vote Sarcastro

[Xdaamno]

Like with C9, the setup will be chosen at random from four options, with equal probability. The possibile setups are:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Cop, Doctor, 5 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Cop, 6 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, Doctor, 6 Townies
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, 7 Townies

WaterboyWaldo here.

That last setup has a mafia roleblocker with nobody to block. Seems stupid to me. And I don't know about you, but I think I think the Cop only setup is better than the Cop and Doc setup, due to the lack of Mafiablocker.

The last setup is intentional, and does two things; adds 'confusion' for the scum to balance the lack of power roles, and dosen't instantly confirm the setup for a scum RB.

While you may be right on the second point, it's more balanced than without the RB (IMO anyway).

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: V/LA till Monday.

[mith]

mikeburnfire "replaces" WaterboyWaldo.

[Fiasco]

The last setup. . .adds 'confusion' for the scum to balance the lack of power roles

Actually I think 50-50 (blocker/no-blocker) is on average

more

informative for the scum than 33-67 or 25-75 would have been.

[Fiasco]

So what's the plan? Wait for deadline and lynch someone at random?

[kabenon007]

Vote Adele.

A vindictive vendetta, on the verge of vanquishing villains, with vigilance and valiance... and valium.

[Fiasco]

Quicklynch!!!

unvote, vote Adele