Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Giovanni il Pellegrino]

Fair enough.

Go on.

[MathBlade]

Now let's take a look at D2. Nahdia claimed to have roleblocked massive.
Maxous claimed to have roleblocked Nahdia.

This is d4 but in reverse --- Assuming Gio was roleblocked. This makes Maxous a redirected or a liar. Why? because your results were supposedly messed with.

[MathBlade]

So either there are three roleblockers which at some point someone would have said something by now or Maxous and Nahdia both are redirected and/or liars.

[MathBlade]

And three roleblockers and having hardly anyone blocked D1 except Shiro is dumb.

[MathBlade]

Now in the case Gio wasn't roleblocked and he is making up shit then Maxous roleblocking Nahdia could happen except for one tiny part.

[MathBlade]

Just in case Nahdia or anybody still has doubts about the re-direction thing.

On night 4 Nahdia blocked me.
Therefore I could not hypothetically re-direct anybody.
Sir cakez was blocked on night 4.

Ergo it actually couldn't of been me. Somebody else had to cause it.

Maxous said on D4 he was unequivocally blocked by Nahdia.

[MathBlade]

Said today (N4)*

[MathBlade]

lmao i can't believe this hadn't occurred to me sooner.

I jailed massive last night. Narna is lying or I was blocked again, I guess.

...Nahdia said they were blocked today or Narna is lying. Granted they were wrong on mechanics but Maxous definitely knew he was roleblocked based on his posting yet Nahdia didn't.

[MathBlade]

This makes one of the two a definitive liar and throws out the third roleblocker theory.

[MathBlade]

It is still possible both are lying scum but that possibility is very remote.

[MathBlade]

It also throws out the if Gio is making up shit then Maxous and Nahdia could both be town case.

[BigYoshiFan]

If a third party is present, I think it is unlikely for scum to be five in number.

If anything, 4/9/1 makes more sense, especially given the fact that despite the large number of investigatives, results are shaky.

I would agree except for what is likely Yoshi's scum slip.

I wish I had a million guns but alas I has none.

It wasn't a scumslip, I just proposed what I thought was most likely. :/

[MathBlade]

Assume Nahdia is scum and Maxous is town. Then Nahdia would not be a Jailkeeper at all in that case. They could not be the redirector either. Maxous would have been redirected onto Gio and then possibly left alone to roleblock Not Chara and then redirected again onto SirCakez. Then what would be more important than redirecting or killing a roleblocker?

Assume Maxous is scum and Nahdia is town. N1 Nahdia redirected onto Shiro. N2 redirected onto Gio. N3 redirected onto no one and yet Not Chara maybe was or wasn't blocked. N4 Nahdia redirected to SirCakez.

[MathBlade]

the result i got is a result, but it seems my results don't differentiate between being roleblocked, and simply nothing happening that night.

Let me try to make this even clearer: Assuming you were a Tracker (which is probably not true, but is a hypothetical assumption to get the point through) you'd get "You saw NOTHING" whether our target had no night action or you were locked, so you cannot differentiate between the two. Am I correctly understanding this?

yes, that's exactly it.

Since Not Chara cannot tell its roleblock status that makes the Nahdia Town and redirected each night plausible.

[MathBlade]

Therefore Maxous is almost certainly scum here.
Nahdia is either redirected or scum.

[MathBlade]

QED end of argument let's lynch Maxous

[MathBlade]

I am almost tempted to ask Not Chara who they targeted however I think they are scum sooooo

[MathBlade]

Now assume both are scum then all the block information is just stupid and they won't be honest about a thing.

But one thing is clear if Nahdia is scum and Maxous Nahdia is not a roleblocker.

[MathBlade]

The way Maxous is 100% sure Nahdia is town is also sketchy to me.

Either way Maxous and Nahdia have explaining to do via rope.

[Skullduggery]

massive has required too many prods and is being replaced.

[Skullduggery]

Day 5, Vote Count #9

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(2)

Maxous -- Accountant, BigYoshiFan

(1)

MathBlade -- Almost50

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Nahdia

(0)

Accountant

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(1)

BigYoshiFan -- Nahdia

(2)

Narna -- SirCakez, Maxous

(1)

Almost50 -- Narna

(0)

Pine

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

PeregrineV, Ankamius, massive, Pine, Not Chara, Giovanni il Pellegrino, MathBlade

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Day 5 Will End on Wednesday, December 14th, at 10 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-14 22:00:00)

[BigYoshiFan]

Why don't you vote Maxous then?

[MathBlade]

For the billionth time I am trying to get people to see Maxous scum and form reads on their own and with almost half of the player base scum or 3P then there are possibilities for quicklynches. It is more important to get people to play and care than me to vote.

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay, sorry. I don't see why a vote wouldn't be helpful right about now. Maxous is at L-6 and if you wanna give some rope, vote him. You also seem quite confident he's scum, so I don't really see the issue here.

[MathBlade]

The issue here is not my confidence.

The issue here is we need people playing the game.

The instant I vote people sheep.

Hell you still haven't given any explanation for your reads Yoshi.

We need people not to be mindless drones and to discuss analyze live breathe.