Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[BigYoshiFan]

Well, let me get my information in order.
Did shiro check anyone N3?

[MathBlade]

I refuse to believe scum.would be given basically a gunsmith as a role.

It is fucking stupid and paired with Narna reaction after he for all intends and purposes was lynched make it highly unlikely.

Snarky, this town has done fuck all till today, help me lead a revolution and kill scum.

Scum is playing then like bloody puppets, leon lynch then now trying to push me or Narna and setting for the other tomorrow.

Wake up people. Titus stop tunneling and listen to me. Join on almost.

Caky the same as Titus. Just trust me.

Maxous, you are likely scum so I don't give s fuck what you do. I will entertain you though. Case me, because "How was that town" isn't a case.

Andrius I get your frustration, I have been in your position in other games but please trust me here today.

It was claimed in thread he posted info on SirCakez and Shiro went down saying SirCakez and Titus are both town. So I would guess he checked SirCakez on D3. However that is all I see from his ISO.

[BigYoshiFan]

Well... I have all of Nahdia's, Maxous', Narna's, and Gio's night actions.
Is there any other night actions that would be important for me to know before I start posting thoughts?

[BigYoshiFan]

Oh and Shiro's
I know she was RB'ed N1, who did she target N2?

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: Brief Game Summary

Day 1

Various wagons are tested, Magna is eventually lynched.


Also during this day, the deadline was mysteriously extended by over 100 years after 516 occurred. Wingdings have become a common theme during the game and I’ll discuss them in more detail in the scum team speculation section.

Day 2

Narna and McMenno become competing counterwagons, ending with McMenno being lynched. From 4009 onward, ALL mod communication in thread becomes wingdings. Since McMenno’s flip is obscured by this, I’ll post the translation here:
McMenno was sans, town lazy coroner.
nighttime abilities: during the night phase, you may select any dead player in the game to learn who targeted that player with a killing action on the night that they died. if this player was targeted by more than one killing action, you will learn the identities of all of that player's killers. you may only use this ability starting on night 7.
(yes, it was all in lower case)

Day 3

Because McMenno flipped town, Narna is quickly wagoned. However, Leonshade uses his governor ability to save them. Leonshade is eventually lynched for this.

Day 4

Narna’s psychologist role (which detects if a player has or has ever had access to a kill) gets a “guilty” on Shiro, who denies ever having access to a kill. He is however a miller, which he claimed day 1. Narna asks in private Skullduggery if millers would show as “guilty” on her check and is told they will not. However, Shiro amends his miller claim to global miller, which returns all investigative results as if he were a scum-aligned player. Ankamius (also a miller) backs this up saying his role functions similarly.


As of 5802, the deadline this day was suddenly slashed by a roughly a week.

Spoiler: All Claims

I’m including in this softs, since I doubt much has escaped a full scumteam’s notice.


Worth noting that investigative roles receive full reports including the target’s name, which means speculation as to possible busdrivers is faulty. Titus (dead town) confirms this in 3633. Giovanni and Narna have both confirmed this as well.

SirCakez:

No claim. However his role has been made public in a neighborhood which I believe consists currently of Firebringer, Andrius, and Creature (?) as Shiro was in it previously and had rolecopped him. This is stated in 6187. He did as of 6213 state he was roleblocked, indicating his role is one which gets some sort of feedback.

Giovanni il Pellegrino:

Weak unclaimed investigative role. First claimed weak in 4483 (Day 3), first claimed investigative in 4541, as of 6162 he confirms his role receives feedback. He confirms in 6322 that his weak modifier triggers any time he targets anyone who is not town. In 4539 he also states his role is even-night only. He claims to have targeted Maxous night 2 and Narna night 4.

Maxous:

Roleblocker. Claimed 3625 (Day 2) Claims to have roleblocked Shiro night 1, which is confirmed by earlier Shiro in 3541. Night 2 and 3 actions not claimed (??). Night 4 block was Creature, claimed in 6361.

Creature:

No claim to my knowledge.

PeregrineV:

No claim to my knowledge.

Nahdia:

Jailkeeper. First claimed 2136 (you can find a working link for the audio in 4104, though I should mentioned Skullduggery asked that no one else do this). My role allows other people to target my target, just not kill them. I targeted zakk night 1, massive night 2, no one night 3, and Maxous night 4. Obviously I was either roleblocked night 1 or there was a strongkill, since zakk died. Claimed my night 1 action in 3430, night 2 action in 4353 (should note i was wrong about my role mechanics in that post), night 3 action in 5964, night 4 action on 6216. Flavor claimed (well, heavily softed but by writing it here I confirm it) Muffet.

Firebringer:

Neighborizer. I don’t know the order of the targets, but it seems to have at certain points contained himself, Andrius, Creature, Titus, and Shiro. Not 100% where this was claimed. Andrius mentions Titus was a neighbor in 6165 and refers again to a hood in 6184.

Not Chara:

No claim to my knowledge.

Ankamius:

In 126, Ankamius states that he has a miller state, a hated state, and benefits from hammering. In 5976, he clarifies that his miller state returns guilties on all investigatives.

BigYoshiFan:

No claim to my knowledge.

Narna:

Psychologist; claims to be told whether a player has or has ever had the ability to kill each night. First claims this in 4238 (I feel like it was earlier but can’t find anything?). Also in that post claims to have checked massive night 2, they cannot kill.. In 4246 Narna claims to have missed the deadline for submitting an action on Night 1. They got a “guilty” on Shiro on Night 3, as of post 5676. Claimed to have gotten a “cannot kill” on myself in 6164. Flavor claimed Gerson.

Almost50:

Heavily softed supersaint with flavor “Annoying Dog”. Supersaint softs include 940 and 947 (Gamma Emerald is the spot’s predecessor). I make a nod at Almost50’s role in 4950 and Almost50 acknowledges I know his role in 4957 and totally confirms it in 5116. Flavor soft of Annoying Dog is in posts 6124 and 6125.

Andrius:

...I’m not sure, really. Andrius flavor claims Frisk all over the place. Makes allusion to possible pacifist and genocide routes in 3135 and 4057 and a bunch of other places but I’m not sure what they mean. In 5922 he claims Titus knew his role, perhaps it’s stated in the neighborhood? In 6165 he says Titus knows his “secret”.

massive:

Softed fruit vendor in 4219. I know his flavor, but I’ll let him decide if he wants it outed.

[BigYoshiFan]

Might wanna update that. I THINK Creature claimed BP and Gio claimed follower.

[MathBlade]

Oh and Shiro's
I know she was RB'ed N1, who did she target N2?

My hunch albeit I can't prove it is Shiro targeted Narna. The reason I say this is the post I sourced about scum having the psychologist role is just stupid. This either implies he believed Narna or had inside information to it. Since Shiro flipped rolecop I suspect the latter.

[MathBlade]

Might wanna update that. I THINK Creature claimed BP and Gio claimed follower.

I neither confirm nor deny Creature's prior claim. ( I am the replacement for Creature)

[BigYoshiFan]

Did Not Chara claim roleblocked N3?

[MathBlade]

N1 - Shiro
N2 - Nahdia
N3 - Not Chara
N4 - Creature.

For disclosure

i wasn't blocked on night 3.

[BigYoshiFan]

Okay. I really appreciate your help btw, I hope you know that, and that this help isn't getting thrown out a window, I'm just confirming a bunch of things I have down here.
Mathblade, were you roleblocked N4?

[MathBlade]

Creature, any chance you can confirm if the block on you was successful?

Nope.

[BigYoshiFan]

Am I missing anything here?

Spoiler:

Maxous -
Targeted Shiro N1 and Shiro claimed roleblocked.
Targeted Nahdia N2. The discrepancy here is that Gio followed him and claimed he received "No Result." So Gio here could have been roleblocked or Maxous is lying or some bus driving occurred.
Targeted Not Chara N3. Denied by Not Chara
Targeted Creature/Mathblade N4. Jailed by Nahdia; Creature denies it.

Nahdia -
Targeted zakk N1, zakk died. Wasn’t roleblocked by Maxous.
Targeted massive N2
Targeted no one N3. Why, I don’t know.
Targeted Maxous N4

Narna -
Did not submit N1
Claims to have cleared massive N2
Claims to have a guilty on Shiro N3
Claims to have cleared Nahdia N4

Giovanni -
Targeted Maxous N2, received no result. Maxous claimed he roleblocked Nahdia.
Targeted Narna N4, received an investigation result.

[MathBlade]

Am I missing anything here?

Spoiler:

Maxous -
Targeted Shiro N1 and Shiro claimed roleblocked.
Targeted Nahdia N2. The discrepancy here is that Gio followed him and claimed he received "No Result." So Gio here could have been roleblocked or Maxous is lying or some bus driving occurred.
Targeted Not Chara N3. Denied by Not Chara
Targeted Creature/Mathblade N4. Jailed by Nahdia; Creature denies it.

Nahdia -
Targeted zakk N1, zakk died. Wasn’t roleblocked by Maxous.
Targeted massive N2
Targeted no one N3. Why, I don’t know.
Targeted Maxous N4

Narna -
Did not submit N1
Claims to have cleared massive N2
Claims to have a guilty on Shiro N3
Claims to have cleared Nahdia N4

Giovanni -
Targeted Maxous N2, received no result. Maxous claimed he roleblocked Nahdia.
Targeted Narna N4, received an investigation result.

Other options as I have discussed in my ISO could have happened.
You are also missing the Firebringer slot claimed neighborizer.

[MathBlade]

Andrius Titus and Shiro slots are all suspected to have been in that hood.

[BigYoshiFan]

Ugh, there's so much that could have happened. I'll just start spewing ideas to myself, seeing what makes sense.

[MathBlade]

Ugh, there's so much that could have happened. I'll just start spewing ideas to myself, seeing what makes sense.

Pencil and paper can't be manipulated. Great place for that.

[BigYoshiFan]

I like the Maxous/redirector theory. If he redirected Nahdia to Shiro N1 that would explain Shiro's RB and zakk's death. Just gotta see where he redirected N2, N3, and N4 so that this all makes sense.

[MathBlade]

I like the Maxous/redirector theory. If he redirected Nahdia to Shiro N1 that would explain Shiro's RB and zakk's death. Just gotta see where he redirected N2, N3, and N4 so that this all makes sense.

Based on NAR his team would have one but Maxous himself cannot be it.

[BigYoshiFan]

Why? What did I miss?

[MathBlade]

Nahdia targeted Maxous N4.
Maxous claimed he targeted my slot of which creature nor myself confirms or denies.

Blocks come before redirects in order of operation so if Maxous was redirector then Shiro roleblock on that day is unexplained.

[MathBlade]

Sorry Shiro dead off a line in my notes let me get right player.

[MathBlade]

@Shiro-OPen question to you still open.

@Giovanni- OPen question to you still open.

Which question ?

4645

O, I was blocked night 1, I have resuls on night 2 that I won't share unless caky is ok with.

Whoops Shiro got results on Cakes N2 (correction) which would make Narna N3

[Maxous]

I like the Maxous/redirector theory. If he redirected Nahdia to Shiro N1 that would explain Shiro's RB and zakk's death. Just gotta see where he redirected N2, N3, and N4 so that this all makes sense.

the theory was bogus because Not Chara didn't understand they had been roleblocked on N3. ( I told y'all people misread their roles ALL THE TIME in larges)
That has since been clarified that they were roleblocked on N3

Narna is scum because his claim that he would not theoretically not get a guilty on a miller has been debunked by Shiro and by Mod.
nothing to do with night actions, he straight up lied and thought he wouldn't be caught out with it.
he was.

[MathBlade]

Also I was roleblocked last night

SirCakez was blocked N4