Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Andrius]

Was that the one where I subbed in as a mason lover?

No, Titus, thats this game .

[SlySly]

Was that the one where I subbed in as a mason lover?

No, Titus, thats this game .

Ninja'd

[Almost50]

Gave out Dog Residue, which filled inventories that might have done other useful stuff. Won if every other player's inventory was full (aka annoyed everyone)

Well, that was a totally different role then. This one here has no active abilities.. [redacted, redacted, reacted..]

[SnarkySnowman]

Was that the one where I subbed in as a mason lover?

yup!

[Skullduggery]

Day 3, Vote Count #16

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(1)

Giovanni il Pellegrino -- PeregrineV

(0)

Maxous

(1)

Creature -- Almost50

(0)

PeregrineV

(3)

Titus -- Creature, Leonshade, Not Chara

(2)

Shiro -- SirCakez, Giovanni il Pellegrino

(0)

Nahdia

(0)

Firebringer

(6)

Not Chara -- Ankamius, Andrius, Titus, Firebringer, Maxous, massive

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

SlySly

(1)

SnarkySnowman -- Nahdia

(0)

Narna

(1)

Almost50 -- Narna

(0)

Leonshade

(0)

Andrius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

SnarkySnowman, Shiro, SlySly

With 18 votes available, it takes 10 votes to hammer.

Day 3 Will End on Sunday, November 20th, at 9 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-20 21:00:00)

[Leonshade]

The why would you question is always a bad one. It frames the argument and lets scum try to argue essentially right for wrong reasons.

The fact is, you posted that. The fact is that Narna's claim didn't persuade you. The fact is that you then governed based on trolling you didn't talk with anyone over.

I am OK with unpopular governs as I usually have a minority opinion in games. I am not OK with an unjustified govern that comes out of left field. It is textbook scum governor. Given you're almost always at the end of the Narna wagon, it reeks of not wanting to bus.

The way I've phrased it might be manipulative, but you can't have a scum player without scum motives. And I don't know how I would've discussed the govern without outing the fact that I'm a governor. I decided that I wouldn't soft my role, as the govern loses its power if people know it's coming. I wanted the ability to get genuine reactions, and we wouldn't have gotten those if people were playing up their towniness so they could get governed.

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Creature

[PeregrineV]

If you are reffering to Not Chara's question, then yes I know. I am rereading Days 2 and 3 before I answer.

I'm talking about 4634.

[PeregrineV]

@Shiro-OPen question to you still open.

@Giovanni- OPen question to you still open.

Which question ?

4645

[Shiro]

@Shiro-OPen question to you still open.

@Giovanni- OPen question to you still open.

Which question ?

4645

O, I was blocked night 1, I have resuls on night 2 that I won't share unless caky is ok with.

[SlySly]

O, I was blocked night 1, I have resuls on night 2 that I won't share unless caky is ok with.

He's voting you. That should be permission enough.

[PeregrineV]

O, I was blocked night 1, I have resuls on night 2 that I won't share unless caky is ok with.

He's voting you. That should be permission enough.

[Titus]

O, I was blocked night 1, I have resuls on night 2 that I won't share unless caky is ok with.

He's voting you. That should be permission enough.

Nah, that's a neon sign of town Shiro. Just because his townread is being a dick to him doesn't mean he has to be vindictive.

[SirCakez]

O, I was blocked night 1, I have resuls on night 2 that I won't share unless caky is ok with.

He's voting you. That should be permission enough.

What is this shitty fishing lol

[SlySly]

Results make things clearer. Shady is for scum.

[Almost50]

Have you ever heard about the word "moderate"??? Cuz it seems this town either posts too much or not at all!

[Not Chara]

Have you ever heard about the word "moderate"??? Cuz it seems this town either posts too much or not at all!

haha. i should do my part too.

i can't let go of my read on Titus. you and Nahdia have her as town, but whenever i try to look for that behaviour, i can't find it.

i could join you on Creature again, and realistically i know there's multiple scum.

Leon: you're on Titus as well. i'm on my phone, so apologies for asking. what's your Creature read?

i'll say again: even if i'm wrong on Narna, i'm incredibly confident that Leon is town. and that has nothing to do with scum Narna's hypothetical role.

i think i was asked about a defense of Almost? he was being voted, and since wr need every vote we can get, i don't see the issue in communicating that Almost is very likely town.

[Titus]

You are not really convincing me of you being town or if I am wrong protown NC.

There's only one person I doubt on your wagon. You aren't looking to solve your wagon though fmpov.

Show me I am wrong. I want to be wrong.

If you think your wagon minus me is town, what do you think you're doing wrong?

[Not Chara]

You are not really convincing me of you being town or if I am wrong protown NC.

There's only one person I doubt on your wagon. You aren't looking to solve your wagon though fmpov.

Show me I am wrong. I want to be wrong.

If you think your wagon minus me is town, what do you think you're doing wrong?

i'm not trying to convince you, you're my strongest scumread.

but i don't think discussion is ever bad. for one, i

am

trying to solve my wagon. besides yours, Firebringer's vote is suspicious to me because as far as i knew, he was either townreading me and sort-of townreading you, or sort-of townreading both. i don't understand who's strong-arming him into choosing this, and he hasn't been engaging with me on the topic despite my questions.
i still think Andrius is third party, but the rest of my wagon (including SlySly) is likely town. some of Maxous's recent opinions/moves have bothered me, but i don't see him as scum with you. if you're town, that's where i'd look.

i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. being scumread as town as part of the game. and according to several other players who are townreading me, i'm also doing something right.
where i'm wrong has been on my flipped reads so far, undoubtedly. at the time, i was happy about it, but now i wish Narna's lynch had just gone through so we could move pas this. what i can't abide is lynching Leon being the answer.

why do you want to be wrong? i don't understand the sentiment.

[Titus]

How can you believe Massive is town?

Wagon behavior suggests I am.

Scum avoid wagons on town that scum it up and do nothing. This wagon is behaving exactly like McMenno's which throws my vote theory against my player read, yet you're my only scumread my townreads are voting.

You're observations are kinda accurate. Stongarm isn't the word I would pick but I know why Fire voted. I have known him for awhile.

[Not Chara]

i'm not sure how i feel to be told i'm doing nothing, but alright.
i don't really have a reason... not to townread massive? or to lynch him before Narna, who's claimed an innocent result. if he flips scum, by all means, massive is no longer cleared of anything.

i also... forgot massive had voted me, entirely, until i went to check his ISO in response to your question just now. in your opinion, provided Narna is scum, what's the utility in claiming an innocent on a partner when Narna wasn't in a fantastic position, reads-wise? or do you think he thought he'd be able to dodge the rope?

i've come to understand a reason for Fire's behaviour, based on yours. i wish he'd said something in response to me, still.

[Titus]

I don't recall Narna claimed an innocent on massive. When did this happen.

Doing nothing is inaccurate. I don't see you doing much useful. The one read we might agree on, you stone wall and do not answer.

[Not Chara]

Dammit Shiro

I am Gerson - Psychologist

I can investigate a player every night and find out if they have or have had the ability to kill up until that point. So Massive has had no ability to kill as of n2, and therefore he is town.

are you talking about my Creature read? i'm still willing to go back there, but i confess i was annoyed at being asked to talk about him, as if i hadn't already. it would be like someone saying to me 'oh, were you scumreading Shiro?', in my opinion. i can go back and talk about Creature again.

[Titus]

Yeah, my memory is fallible. To me, I have to assess why. If the read stands out as weird I ask.

Go fish questions annoy me. They reek of scum hiding and riding on shade an innuendo, which makes me question my read. If you don't know/cannot look it up, point me in the right direction.

[Not Chara]

i think i said my scumread of Creature vanished. i take it back. he's been posting better, sure, but i still disagree with nearly all of his reads, and he's still citing very weak meta as reasons for them. Shiro read, as an example.

before that, it was his constant, constant dodging of my questions.

to reiterate, since the two above posts were made while i was typing that:

this is not the day for VCA

.

i'm considering jumping ship to Creature, because this is ridiculous.
see his posts today, specifically the answers to me. concern about how he looks more than just playing the game. taking an eternity to respond to questioning because he

really

wanted to think about his answer. very little scumhunting.

i think that sums it up. 'not reading' can only take one so far, and that behaviour is simply an NIA explanation, not an excuse.
before then, it was the whole issue with Cakez. Creature admitted he didn't read the spoiler, that he simply saw it and thought 'oh, Chara is proposing a Cakez wagon, i could go there'. this is with a prior townread on the slot. it reeks.

..why did i even let go of that? i was concentrating too much on you and Shiro.