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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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In post 56, BlackVoid wrote:@Rask, what's there to like about GM's comments on BBT? If you are talking about post #8, there's nothing in there that's an alignment marker. Just looks like an early vote on someone they played with before and hoping that he is town which is something I could see from either alignment.
VOTE: Raskolnikov
This entire post gives me bad vibes:
Too many qualifiers. You undermine pretty much all the points you are making.In post 36, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually like what GM said about BBTAlso him saying the game was annoying I think mirrors how I felt about people arguing over the dice,unless it's a super catered pocketing attempt.although that's an assumption.
I'm wondering what the likelihood is micheal would issue that PSA #1 as scum, I think very low.The only issue is the chance he thought of it from pre-game and planned to say it regardless of role pm, instead of just now (makes sense given the circumstances).
No scumleads yet though.In post 57, Hoopla wrote:^not bad, not bad.
I feel like goodmorning is close to finally cracking and going into full meltdown, but consider me voting for Raskolnikov too.In post 58, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
What did you like about it?In post 36, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually like what GM said about BBT unless it's a super catered pocketing attempt.
Not much has happened so far - we need to get a wagon going.
VOTE: Rask
Im trying to reread to get better reads and heres a little something, first 4 posts are ppl starting a wagon on rask
BV town
Hoop town
Creat ?
Sotty scum
It looks like sotty is mafia and jumped on a town wagon right ? thats what i actually thought and was my initial impression and i was kinda happy to see something contradicting myself for once, but if you actually read rask's rxn to the wagon:
In post 65, Raskolnikov wrote:I liked it because it's what I thought, I had a lot of trouble withBBTour last 2 games. One game it took me 4 days to make my mind up on him, but he mislynched me, next game I mislynched him day 1 and got nightkiilled. The caveat is because it's an assumption I would have to later check it again, but it was okay for early.
CK:This is about rask appealing to creature
Ironically, now that I said that and people actually voted me for it, 47 rubs me the opposite way. People won't like me saying this, but fuck it.CK:sounds fake af tbh ''i know im scummy but pls dont lynch me''
As for the qualifiers point, this is lame but I do think like that. People hate wishywashyness so much though, sometimes I bury the doubts down and just present a simplified viewpoint to make things easier for people. But then again I've been getting nightkilled early in recent games so this might be for the best.CK: self meta and what not
She pretty much talk about hoop, bv and Creature slot a lot but doesnt talk about sotty/twoface. So even if sotty's vote on her (4th) seems like scum jumping on wagon, rask foses the early voters and ignores the rest, imo the sotty and twoface vote were much more scummy -> she avoid outing a read on it since they voted the same for somewhat the same reasonIn post 70, Raskolnikov wrote:Of those on my wagon.
Blackvoidvote has understandable reasoning and I like him thinking that way.BBT'smakes sense because he'd probably want to sort me based of our experience, but there are caveats.twoface/sotty is blank/neutral, I assume the "justification" is to get an early wagon going but I can't read into alignment on that so much.CK: that looks like she doesnt want to go into a sotty read and ingore it along with twoface (who voted 5th). I think this is a farily classic way for mafia to put their partners in a null catergory or unreadable as to avoid drawing attenion and being locked up in a read
I don't likehooplavote justified on association; If you scumread someone enough this early to look at associations, I think you'd keep pushing them instead. 57 is a little ridiculous.
In my own experience I love to push association tells as scum (because it's easy and low-commitment) and people rarely call you out for pushing things on it.
I also enjoy
a) linking a scumpartner with a townie in associations, best case scenario townie lynch makes the scumpartner look better, worst case scum gets lynched and get the townie in return
b) super scumread a scum for strong reasons but end up pushing/voting town for weak reasons
but in this case, although the switch by hoopla from gm to me is weird I don't think that was distancing. I would imagine goodmorning would have fought hoopla back a bit more if that was the goal, instead of voting victor. Same with goodmorning's comment on being annoyed earlier.
Mostly though, the post saying she feels her scumread is about to crack under pressure but she changes vote is absurd to me. You pressure someone and then right when you feel you're almost there, you switch to something like an weak association as town. I think the frustration in 62 is over the top considering she didn't really put that much effort into changing people's minds. Again, anecdotal, but as scum I love to complain about "oh no I have to do this because everyone else" and not take responsibility or effort into fighting against it and changing people's minds (for obvious reasons)... she didn't really push gm with much effort before complaining like this, if you look at the iso.
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Creature just doesn't come across as scummy to me. My top guesses are MariaR/GM, MariaR, Rask, and GM/Rask, The last one is possible. We shouldn't discount it. It was interesting that the same day that I spent wondering if GM and Rask were the team that Hoopla presented the same idea. The major thing that makes me think that is GM's townread on Rask.-
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In post 3140, Raskolnikov wrote:Aside from that they haven't changed.
I'm waiting on something atm but this game is kicking into gear soon don't worry.-
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Look I'm not scum I asked you to lynch me the day before but now that you got me into this I wouldn't hard defend a goon of all people to bring attention to me that's just pointless for me to do as scum yes I lynched a town and yes I sr not 1 but 2 masons but everyone makes mistakes and I fucked this up I'm trying my hardest here okay I was re reading and I can slightly see why you team read me with a few people Rask is honestly just town from the games I linked you I am sure of that I still don't see why the gm/me team so much but I wish you'd give me a chance and went with my god dam read on Creature because I'm sure on it.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.~Bitmap-
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Joey I'm town I don't know what to fucking tell you.
I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Why are MY reads the one that have to be wrong you're acting like just because I got a few wrong before makes all my other reads wrong aswell that's an extremely close minded way of thinking you haven't played with rask like I have joey and you haven't read the games I've played with them I know a hell of a lot more then you doI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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