In post 6703, MathBlade wrote:It is also possible there is no framer and Narna derped and hit the miller and miller said I am a killer. I maybe didn't ask the question in the right way to eliminate this possibility. Nahdia what did you ask the mod? All they gave me was the wiki link which has a variant in which millers would look like killers.
I didn't ask the mod myself here, but I proposed the miller might have worked in a way I had seen before which was "You would give the most unfavourable result to any and all investigative roles". Some refuted my proposition, somene said it was the case then they changed their mind and I gave up.
In my mind .. in a bastard game .. in a role madness game .. in a game modded by none other than skull.. a Miller would return a guilty to all kinds of cops. Also -and this is very important IMHO- we only had Narna's role and Shiro's as "investigative" role claims (not asking anyone else to claim). We had claims of a Follower, Roleblockers, and Titus was a Neapolitan (or Vanilla Cop). Now let's see:
How does a miller work with a Follower?? Will they give "performed a killing action" for instance?? Of course not.
How about RBs? Well, these don't return results to begin with.
And the Neapolitan/Vanilla Cop?? Everybody returns a Not Vanilla (unless the miller was purposefully designed to be to give a Vanilla result when they're not, which is WEIRD, and -also- not exactly a guilty).
Oh, and -of course- a Role Cop has nothing to do with a Miller, nor does a Flavour Cop (which we had no claims of, but still ..)
So, the ONLY "false guilty" that the Miller could've returned would have been to Narna's role, as per the claimed/known roles thus far, and thus I still believe Narna did get a guilty on Shiro regardless, and w/o the need of a framer intervention.
P-edit:
Fine. So if OUR Miller should not have returned a guilty to Narna, then who were they a Miller to? Do we have a claimed/flipped role that would have returned a false guilty on Shiro?? Or was he a Miller to to nobody???